All word and pixelly lewdness is welcome here. Writefags, consider pastebin/1d4chan rather than dumping for long stories.
People especially appreciate it when you give them meaningful feedback and criticism, so make sure to do so. It's easy and both writefags and drawfags will love you for it.
In any case, enjoy! Remember to play nice and that all contributions and requests are welcome!
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Master smut list:
A guide to constructive criticism, because "Your writing/artwork sucks" doesn't help anyone get better at it.
Currently we are creating a set of guides to aid new and upcoming smut writers, if you feel as if you can contribute anything, please do so in-thread!
Smut Writing for the Sexually Inexperienced: http://pastebin.com/znDUfbtB
Writing from the Female Perspective: http://pastebin.com/M5FNyVWH
Guide to writing monsters in smut: http://pastebin.com/iXjPcUTb
New thread, new week. What's everyone working on?
You forgot to add the unfilled prompt archive, which is here: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1nyDKegfYhIvlv7ZvGoxswIVkiG5lw1lrOeDFvZbw_WU/edit?pli=1
Something tells me that you're working off an old OP post from our /tg/ days. Not to rag on you (and forgive me if it seems that way!), but is the copypasta you have not up to date?
Does anyone still remember a while ago, a request about having a paladin fall in love with a female angel and a succubi? I'd like to request that, where the Angel (Raquel) and the Succubi (Helena) are competing for the paladin's affection, but he will eventually take both of them as his lovers. However, there will still be catfights. The first one will be with Raquel defeating Helena and disciplining her to be less lewd/promiscuous than her usual daemonic nature, whereas the second catfight will involve Helena trussing up Raquel in bondage and teaches her to not be so sexually repressed.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think that story, almost verbatim, was already written. Have you checked the master list?
I find it slightly disconcerting that any randomly selected picture from the unsorted folder I'm pulling from qualifies as scifi or fantasy.
Like I said, I wasn't ragging on you. It happens, man!
Now, if you'll excuse me, I have prompts to add, which I also recommend other people do as well. To the tripfag-mobile, away!
I can be wrong as to where it's from, but I do know that I have read something incredibly similar to that story. It might just be that it's a fairly classic idea and is almost invariably on Literotica somewhere. I wouldn't mind seeing one come from here (I've always loved supernatural harem-type stuff), however.
For your convenience, here's our new OP. Use this from here on out, because anything else will make you look like you've been out of the loop for months.
Elves, Dragons, Giants, Slimes, Aliens, Robots, Monsters and anything in between, if you know what I mean.
People especially appreciate it when you give them meaningful feedback and criticism, so make sure to do so. It's easy and both writefags and drawfags will love you for it. Also, try and keep image dumps to a minimum so that more OC can be posted.
Master smut list:
Requests Document Database (feel free to add your requests to this when you post them in the thread!):
I can't remember the title, but it has in.fact been written, right down to the character names.
Next time, check the list before you ask, lest you look ungrateful for what you already have..
Requesting cultist chan rubbing her feet (on the dick) against a slaaneshi corrupted/ing sister of battle whose growing a dick. Implying cultist chan is corrupting SoB with her feet. Both are enjoying it
Mostly taking care of the list, though when I get back to my regular computer I'm going to try and add a bit more to a fic I was working on with Anonymouse. After that, I'm considering starting up a sequel to Electric Sleep, or at least get some planning done for it. What about you guys?
Hopefully a writefag will take this smut request up:
A sister of battle squads is purging a hidden slaaneshi cult intent on opening a warp portal. The cult is cleansed, and sisters destroy whatever artifacts they find. What they cant destroy, they place in a sealed vault inside their monastary.
Main: A tiny piece of an artifact resembling a human foot falls from a transport in the monastary. A lone sister discovers it and mistakes it fo a piece of broken ornamentation. She makes an amulet out of it, which begins to corrupt her when she puts it on. She soon starts obsessing over (yes, this is a footfag smut, oh well) feet in every way possible, and despite her best efforts, cannot satisfy her desires. Her self worship soon drive her to seek other sources of foot related pleasure. The sister starts to corrupt other sisters with her same desires by forcefully shoving her feet into her victims mouth/pussy, (resistance gives way to foot sex/worship) who soon spread the corruption to others. As the corruption reaches a critical mass, a giant foot orgy errupts at prayer (all sisters are attending) which begins to corrupt the room. A warp portal begins to open at the peak of the orgy, which starts physically corrupting the sisters. Many become futas which introduces footjobs into the orgy. In addition to turning pinkish, various sisters hands change to feet. The more clumsy appendage keeps some of them from getting off as much as they like, causing a buildup of sexual frustration which turns them into slaaneshi feet-abominations. The originaly corrupted sister (one of the most mutated) takes charge of the frenzy leads the orgy to dominate the rest of the sparsely populated planet.
The epilogue is up to writefags.
Well, seeing as how we're onto corruption,
Does anyone want to do a piece on Miriael Sabathiel capturing Ephrael Stern and corrupting her to Slaanesh?
Stern goes on a hunt for Sabathiel in order to stop her from corrupting more people. Unfortunately, Sabathiel lays a trap for Stern and captures her. She then brings in her own warband of slaaneshi warriors, chaos astartes, and corrupted sisters to have and orgy and break Stern, corrupting her as well.
Anyone interested in some lesbian fairy smut with rape, mindcontrol and corruption elements? I'm interested in writing in either comic script or prose/short story style.
Anyone particularly interested either way
Does anyone have any wordporn where a character is reduced in intelligence to that of an animal?
Like, even more dumb than bimbofication. Male or female, gay or straight, it doesn't matter.
That sounds wonderful. I personally prefer prose.
I don't think I've ever seen this thread write anything with established characters that weren't from MtG. I wouldn't hold my breath if I were you. What is it about the character that you like so much? If you were willing to settle for lookalikes, you'd have a much better chance of getting something written.
Check MCStories. Svengali has a tag for it, if memory serves.
>Check MCStories. Svengali has a tag for it, if memory serves
Unfortunately I have been going there for nearly a decade. I'm mostly tapped out. I was just hoping there was another site I could get this from.
Hmmm.. Requesting a pic of a SoB Hospitalier who uses her gene modded breasts to nurse orphan babies before they get shipped off to the Scholia.
Maybe fic of her getting addicted to her nipples getting sucked so she tries to get her fellow sisters to relieve her sore breasts "Theya re just full of milk! Please help me Sister!"
Are you taking story requests?
If so, I'd love to read a story about Juri Han growing hyper huge muscles and a hyper-gargantaun cock, and she can't stop jacking it off. She then picks up Decapre and fucks her like a living condom and cum-inflates her to impossible proportions while Juri Han flexes and her cock keeps getting bigger and bigger even while cumming oceans inside Decapre.
No limits on the size of Juri's muscles, Juri's cock, or Juri's cumloads. The universe isn't big enough for what I'd love to see.
Luckily, Juri Han's Feng Shui engine is enough of a plot device to make something like this happen. And seriously, fuck Decapre. Fuck you Capcom for teasing you were bringing back R. Mika and Retsu, and then that shit.
So I got a tablet now. Fiddling with it for a bit. Not taking requests until I feel comfortable with it though. So I'll dump instead the Jaquelot/knight girl pics I did today.
And that's it.
If I don't do traditionals, does it mean I can't namefag using Inkeranon anymore?
I would like to request a Twi'lek twink in the same pose as the man on the right. The alien himself can have the face of the guy in the middle with the same dappled pattern on his body like the face has. The picture on the left is how the headtails look when they aren't covered by headgear.
I hope this isn't too hard to understand. If it is, tell me.
But we do have stories based on other settings, and quite a few made up by ourselves too. Perhaps you should look at what's actually on the list before making baseless accusations next time.
>the writers/the thread itself/most of the anons are from /tg/
>/tg/ content is what people focus on/make content for
these threads may be on /d/, but they're still /tg/ threads if you understand that
Yeah, but speaking as someone who only came to these after the move, I think we should embrace the new freedom allowed to us. I was never interested in these threads when they were on /tg/ because I had little to no interest in the things discussed. Now we don't have to stick to one thing anymore, you know? This leads onto my second point.
I'm well aware of that, and I think that's part of the problem. People think that there's no audience (or the audience that's here has no interest) for stuff based on other settings. It might just be me, but it seems like there's almost a stigma against doing stories and whatnot outside of the envelope of /tg/ properties.
Am I making sense?
The thing is, the writers here don't like to write about settings they're not familiar with, even /tg/ settings, and majority also dislike writing about already existing characters from their series.
Like we told people before. If you want certain content and no one is making it, then do it yourself.
Hi, /d/ lurker and smut writer here. Been writing for little over a year now, and am working on multiple projects at once. I was hoping that since /d/ is home to Queen's Stallions and overly fetishistic people, that some of you might appreciate this Queen's Stallion transformation and fart story I wrote last year.
You can check it out at its Hentai-Foundry link here: http://www.hentai-foundry.com/stories/user/Blue-Vapor-Concord/17844/D-Grade-Fomula-for-Prospective-Stallions/45126/Chapter-0/D-Grade-Formula-for-Prospective-Stallions
But if you're not one for HF, here's a pastebin link: http://pastebin.com/m7hURkJZ
i'm open for requests from anyone here. Currently I'm working on a comic, a belated Secret Santa, and a commission, so while I'll keep your request tucked away, it may be quite some time before it gets done.
I also would like some advice on where to post stories. Currently, I've been using Hentai-Foundry, Archive of Our Own for fanfic, and Tumblr, but I want to phase out Hentai-Foundry because its formatting pisses me off and it takes too much time to get a story looking nice on there.
>Hey, does anyone want to make a 40k warband/hivesplinter/order/etc. that's smut related?
Well considering I've probably got ideas for each and every one of those, sure!
>Many become futas which introduces footjobs into the orgy.
AND you lost me...
Not terribly possible, considering Stern is running on the souls of a couple hundred Sisters who already refused to fall to the Keeper of Secrets who wired them all together for super torture...
>Maybe fic of her getting addicted to her nipples getting sucked so she tries to get her fellow sisters to relieve her sore breasts "Theya re just full of milk! Please help me Sister!"
>why not have cultists/tyranids capture her to feed their young?
>A pampered queen who is ferociously guarded? They compete for the rights to nurse from her.
>makes me wish for chaos corrupted sisters whose breasts are large and lactating, being milked so that it can be sold as high quality refreshments.
>I'm up for yuri breastfeeding.
BASED INKER IS NOW ELECTRONICALLY BASED!!!
Honestly, while I wouldn't mind non/tg/ stuff, I'm usually uninterested in specific characters from other media outside of a few situations
I like keeping it /tg/ because you can make your own scifi/fantasy OCs for the stories
Though feel free to request away, there's nothing in the rules against it, but while I wouldn't mind other stuff, I myself probably wouldn't request or write something using preexisting characters except for a few exceptions
Hi, welcome, will check out your stories in the morning
What's the Queen's Stallions about?
Also tags, tags are well liked here
>Are you asking what Queen's Stallions are, or what my story is about?
Queen's Stallions right?
>Also, how i exactly do I tag? Sorry, I'm kind of a newfag as far as posting goes.
Just post examples of what sort of fetishes/action one would expect to see.
In your case (drug use?, Transformation, human male x ??? male, fart fetish?)
I just skimmed it. Someone more into it could probably come up with better tags.
>We know, it's not the best place for us to go but nobody else wanted us.
T-that's not very nice.
That's a problem with games, too. We can't all agree on what's good. But I think we can reach some light agreement about what stories are generally well done, or are above-averagely creative or original and so on. Or just a pastebin where we can log stories that seemed to attract more attention than usual, like a gotw pastebin.
My deal here, is that traversing literotica or asstr searching for minimally decent stories on any given fetish is basically a nightmare inside a nightmare, the experience of which I can't properly convey using words. It seems to me that a pasebin gathering links to noticeable installments would go a lot of way to improve things.
Hrm. I recall doing something similar to that in a /wst/ thread a while ago, posted some links to authors that I found particularly noteworthy.
I'm up for contributing, if you're going to do one.
I wouldn't mind organising one, once I have some more free time in my hands, actually. I just thought I should gauge reactions beforehands.
I was thinking of a pastebin with a few general fetishes/ themes and a few stories catalogued under each of those. It can be made progressively, starting from one fetish before moving to the next, and including stories after a short discussion here, so that the community can sort of filter through them. Then at the end we can have a list of notable authors. Thoughts?
Sounds like a good idea. Might make the list a bit less daunting.
Here's my general plan for a theoretical layout:
>Perhaps one for specific settings?
To build on this:
>Vanillest vanilla (break vanillest vanilla apart from groupsex?)
>machines, medical and SCIENCE! (different category for robots?)
>consentacles and consensual interspecies mishmashing (break into two categories?)
>consensual bondage and bdsm
>bodycontrol (I think it's best to keep more specific categories with fewer stories close to each other instead of combining them, for better ease of searching)
>Tentacle grapes and forced interspecies integration (make different categories for insects/insectoids, parasites and biosuits?)
>I personally abhorr stories about vampires, werewolfs and the like, so I would support them being a distinct category from the general monster categories. Literotica's mixed non-human category is a cause of perpetual frustration.
Kinda, yes. Except logging only notable stories and not only stories written here.
Above average in terms of creativity, originality or execution. No grammatical errors or anatomical mistakes that could make someone want to claw their eyes out. Scenes described in a way that doesn't resemble the way foods are listed in a delivery catalogue.
Stories of some quality, as that will be ascertained by the people in this thread in conditions of relaxed evaluation.
To be honest I don't think it's that hard to propose a story that stuck with you, neither do I think it's really that challenging to disqualify the ungodly amounts of literal trash that are passed around in erotica sites. I assume all of us can think of a story or two that stuck with us , which we found peculiarly more arousing than others and so on.
I mean, it's not really a science. When /d/gg made their pastebin they didn't first decide on the transcendental nature of goodness. They just added the somewhat popular games that weren't obviously trash to it. I think we can do that, too.
Sure. Why not. I would just argue that we should avoid anything more than that, because then you have two lines of tags for each story and no one bothers with them.
Anyway. I'm going to make a prototype paste now, with just the general layout, so we can have something to build on.
I agree. I think it's practically impossible not to have at least a bit of overlap, unless you make categories so specific as to coincede with just one story, each.
I think that would work, although some of the categories might not have much in them (e.g. biosuits, mind control, and body control are ones which have few to no stories that would fit in them).
Getting some consensus as to which stories should be added- that's the tricky part.
Yeah, my thought was that it would be better to have categories with few stories in them, instead of mixing stories with different appeals up.
>Getting some consensus as to which stories should be added- that's the tricky part.
Sure, but it's also the fun part, and we can take it one story at a time if need be.
I was thinking that a voting system would be best; as in, someone says "Hey, this fic is pretty damn good" and then puts it into limbo where it needs X amounts of positive votes to put it onto the list, or X amounts of negative votes to remove it from the list, or what have you.
We could use strawpolls, or we could be more lax about it and just talk about each suggestion amongst ourselves for a while. It either is included or is disqualified. Other than that, having the ability to disqualify stories already included sounds like it would foster drama and constant revisions. I don't support that.
How would we know? If you really think it's that good, irrespective of you having authored it, give it a go.
I think there is another problem. We seem to be very few. I could add stories a week or two after they are proposed so that there is some feedback over each suggestion. We could make a post with the suggested stories at the beginning of each thread to gather feedback on them.
Am I the only person who thinks that a "notable story" archive - particularly one that involves a vote system - is a horrible idea? Our community isn't particularly stable as it is, and this doesn't seem like something that will help that. I, for one, would like to not repeat the tripfag fights from last year. Nothing starts fights quite like arguing over taste.
I know that we have a whole lot of stories, but our tagging is good-enough to offset this. The main problems with huge repositories like Literotica is the lack of meaningful tagging and the presence of absolute garbage writing. Neither of these is an issue for us. The archive is plenty navigable, and it's easy enough to search by tag or just find an author you like and read through all of his/her stuff.
Discussion is good, but running through old works doesn't seem to be especially productive, particularly when we have hundreds of them.
If anything might get discussion going, it might be to bring back smutt-offs. Those were generally enjoyable and would provide a lot to talk about.
I'm the guy that had the idea. I agree that a voting system, especially one using strawpolls, could foster drama, and that's the furthest thing from what I intend. But can't we have some relaxed discussion over recommendations? I mean, if we really can't talk about a story at all without starting a shitfling, what good is a thread where discussing stories is the subject?
I don't think that tagging, regardless of how good it is, is enough to do the work of a recommendation list. It's very easy to be immobilised by the sheer amount of stories in any repository -including the /tg/ smut index-, even if they are perfectly well tagged. I think mutually trusted recommendations do a work that directly diving into the deep and struggling with sentient garbage for hours, simply can't.
Further, my intention wasn't to rank our own stories, but also to catalog notable stories from other sources such as literotica, asstr and so on, and I don't think it neccessary to argue that searching for something good there is cruel and unusual punishment. To my knowledge there is no catalog that could ameliorate the misery of that task.
Have I persuaded you, yet?
Either you're fetishes are very unpopular with our writefags or it might be from the people who have been a part of this longer and are more familiar with what tags are used.
There's really no way of doing what you want to do without some form of ranking the stories. And since these are porn stories it doesn't matter how well written they are if they are about fetishes a person doesn't like/care for there's no enjoyment in them for that person.
For the "communication" part, you could explain it away with her picking up on his scent/pheromones on top of telepathy. (and yes, I know those are supposed to only work on the same species, but hey...)
For the friction part, she can 'harden' her outer membrane to be firm, flexible and with a decent degree of sensibility.
The project that you are talking about is absolutely herculean, particularly when you consider the sheer number of fetishes involved. What you would end up with is an extensive and contentious discussion over relatively common fetishes and absolutely nothing for anything more obscure. I feel as though the inevitable result is pretty much the opposite of what you intend.
I do agree that Literotica needs some fucking help, but I don't think that we're the ones to do it, nor do I think a "notable story" catalog is going to save that clusterfuck. What they need is a dedicated, usable search engine like Svengali.
>There's really no way of doing what you want to do without some form of ranking the stories.
Whenever you are asked to recommend a story in x category, do you form in your mind a complete and transitive ordering of preferences in terms of stories? Or do you just remember something that was notable and recommend that? How come everyone other than us can make a recommended pastebin, apparently without having to resort to that kind of work, yet we can't? Is the quality of stories more subjective than the quality of games?
>since these are porn stories it doesn't matter how well written they are if they are about fetishes a person doesn't like
I am more optimistic. I think we can tell when we don't like a story because we dislike the fetishes featured in it and so we can either overlook that or simply avoid talking about that story and let its respective fetishists talk about it.
>The project that you are talking about is absolutely herculean
I think you're exaggerating. It can't be more herculean than making a pastebin with recommended VNs. I feel we're at that point where we don't have much to talk about and should instead start doing things to avoid fighting over details and imagined difficulties. I'll just try to organise the pastebin, and if things actually are so unmanageable, or they devolve in practice, I'll just scrap it.
> How come everyone other than us can make a recommended pastebin, apparently without having to resort to that kind of work, yet we can't?
Because they're not the people who make the games in the first place, and they can all agree on what they want out of a game. Let's face it, you're trying to ask something we can't do.
>I am more optimistic. I think we can tell when we don't like a story because we dislike the fetishes featured in it and so we can either overlook that or simply avoid talking about that story and let its respective fetishists talk about it.
That's because you weren't there to see what happened last time a task like this was tried. It was a complete failure.
And if it's discussion you want, discuss settings, ideas, and things to try out in stories, not what amounts to a glorified popularity contest.
Here, I'll start: why do you think it is that so many of our fics involve mages and psychics, but very few of them actually involve magic and psychic powers being used during sex?
Not him, but if you think people agree on what they want out of a game, you haven't spent too much time on /v/. Or hell, free cities is lauded as a masterpiece in /d/gg and considered unworthy of attention or bad in /hgg/.
I think that the issue here is that I don't see this project accomplishing what you want it to. If you polled the entire thread on their favorite story in a reasonably well-traversed genre/fetish, you'll probably get at least ten different answers, probably more. Subjectivity plays an enormous role, even within fetishes. Vore, for instance, has seemingly dozens of variations, some of which may be appealing to a single person, while others may be actively disgusting. There have been stories here, with both authors and fetishes I like that I have disliked simply due to particular implementation.
It's not that I think your idea is inherently bad, only that there is no good way to implement it. I can only see this going one of two ways: the specificity of fetishes causes a huge number of stories to be nominated, invalidating the project by creating a list of comparable size, or we are forced to filter all of the suggestions by popularity or similar metric, leading to a list of only the most popular variations of each fetish. This will naturally lead to some fetishes being entirely unrepresented, making the list useless for a reasonably large number of people.
If you doubt my argument, look again to MCStories. By your classification, everything on that site is a single fetish. Go hover around in the hypnosis/mind control general and ask for recommendations from that site and see what happens. I can think of maybe two stories that I've seen mentioned more than once on that thread, and not because of site volume. Personal preference dominates every level of smut discussion.
As far as the VN general goes, that is an entirely separate concept and a bad comparison. First of all, they are limited in the scope of their responsibility by applicability to the thread: translated VNs that are either strictly SFW or pornographic in nature (depending on which general you're talking about) are relatively few in number. (Out of characters, new post).
Moreover, the group nature of playing games dramatically simplifies their task. People like to talk about the games they're playing. This encourages people to play more popular games in order to increase the chance of having someone to talk with. This occasionally leads to VNs getting their own threads, like in the case of MGQ.
When is the last time you've seen someone in this thread ask what other people are reading? Our "hobby", if you will, is inherently more singular and personal. This thread exists to inspire, suggest, and create content. There is no reason for us to restrict our field in the way that other generals do. We will read stories pursuant to our fetishes, regardless of popularity, even if it is obnoxiously difficult to find anything we like (again, see MCStories and the infinite variations on a single fetish).
I understand that it is not your intent to catalog every imaginable sub-fetish. No one wants to do that. All that I am saying is that I do not understand what can be accomplished by doing what you suggest. You place a few stories at arm's reach for new people to begin browsing, but this has never really been a problem. If you manage to make it to this thread, on this board, on this site, chances are you are not exactly new to the world of bizarre and obscure fetishes. You probably don't need assistance finding notable stories in a fetish, but rather stories that fill some arcane set of requirements that aren't easy to list, much less agree upon.
That being said, if you still believe that the task is worth attempting, I'm certainly not going to stop anyone. It is entirely possible that all of your detractors have simply been scouring for porn for too long and are out-of-touch with a much broader community that may benefit from your proposal. I have no idea. If you think it might work, go for it and see what happens. If it becomes a problem, or accomplishes nothing, just pull the plug before it goes wrong.
Honestly, I've wondered that myself a few times. It's not even that it's not being used, but that there is absolutely no variation. Sharing sensation comes up damn near every single time there's a farseer, but it is virtually the only type of magic/power/whatever ever used in smut outside of transformation.
As far as discussion goes, I still insist that starting another smut-off would be the best way to get the thread mojo running. I just honestly have no suggestions at this time for a topic. I think that we would do well to consider this.
Your post has been reasonable. I don't agree completely, but I'm persuaded that it's not worth pursuing this now.
At some point in the future I might try to approach this differently, by asking for recommendations on some specific category and gauging what kind of discussion can stem from that, whether any kind of lax agreement is possible and whether there is any use to gathering those recommendations in one place.
If you need to ask, it's probably the latter.
But don't worry. The human mind can not intuit nothingness except as a positive form that can be distinguished from positive space only by means of second-order conceptual abstraction. So we are accomplishing something.
That's deep, but I do agree that this should be a smut-off idea. It's broad enough to cover a variety of topics and fetishes while still having a central theme to work with.
SMUT OFF: Write a fic involving the creative use of magic and/or psychic powers during sex- the more exotic the better. Mind-linking, superhuman endurance, maybe transformation during the act itself- the sky's the limit!
Pic semi-related, should give you an idea of one way to do it. And because Lewdanon is a good guy, wish he was here.
There's a given subject and everyone feeling like it writes a story about it. Twist and ben to your liking as long as it respects said prompt.
There should be a submission deadline as well.
In the past the submission deadline extended for two weeks or so, but given that /d/ is far slower on /tg/, I'd say about a month from now or so would be more reasonable in this situation.
It should also be in the next OP as well under the usual copypasta.
One months sounds pretty good. A longer time to write should give us a better turnout, which is particularly helpful for us right now. It might also give some of our old regulars who lurk more than write a chance to get back in the game.
The only thing that's being accomplished is the fact in about a month nothing will be done, like usual and we're going to be blowing hot air. I've been here since the beginning, and I've seen this before, we say we're going to do awesome and smutty things, but when it comes crunch time the goals fall apart like a house of cards. What's the point of these threads if no smut is being produced?
If you too were here since the beginning, you would know it's also to inspire the creation of smut and discuss what's been made in the past, and of course to take requests. At any rate, we'll certainly be blowing hot air when naysayers like you try to discourage anyone because you're certain nothing will be done.
Hell, even as I'm writing this post I'm working on a /ss/ fic with a fertility goddess being knocked up by her new consort. Surely you're working on an awesome and smutty thing too, right? I mean, it would be terrible if all you planned to do was grumble and wait for others to do all of the work.
>What's the point of these threads if no smut is being produced?
If these threads are of no relevance to you, feel free to move along instead of hanging around making things worse by complaining.
I'm not the guy who originally was writing that general premise, but as I have in the past I decided to take matters into my own hands to see that it got made.
The anon who helped me write Electric Sleep was happy to act as a co-writer for this too, and from there I'm planning out ideas for a sequel to it. I gotta say, I see why Mask and Monster did so much of their writing as a team now- it feels like I'm making three times as much progress as I would if I was doing it on my own, and having someone to catch the mistakes you overlook is a big plus too.
You can bump whatever you like, but it's unlikely to matter much. Our drawfags have strange schedules in addition to living in very different time zones. They'll get to it whenever they get to it.
It works because slime
>Couldn't get away from making it seem like she was just masturbating.
That's not too bad considering things, just make sure to point out how it's stimulating her too
Same way it grips or moves itself, an exact explanation isn't needed, just that it can control it's surface tension to a degree
>but very few of them actually involve magic and psychic powers being used during sex?
I would love to see something like this, like using magic to conjure an extra hand or dick to help things along, using a feedback loop of telepathy to propel both partners to ever higher ecstasy, or direct stimulation of pleasure, ect
Your pic makes me want a giantess story
>Hell, even as I'm writing this post I'm working on a /ss/ fic with a fertility goddess being knocked up by her new consort
Really looking forward to that
>Surely you're working on an awesome and smutty thing too, right?
Gonna try writing that TF witch story I said I would this weekend, that or that healdo one I promised a femanon on /tg/ a few months back
>Really looking forward to that
Should be finished this week. I'll try to get it done as fast as I can.
Gonna try writing that TF witch story I said I would this weekend, that or that healdo one I promised a femanon on /tg/ a few months back
Sounds good to me.
I've never really written anything outside of papers and stories for school, but I really want to write smut for myself. Should it be fine just jumping into porn writing or should I practice more normal stories first? Also, if you want to, any additional tips for a starter would be appreciated.
Don't know until you try. The OP post have some small guides that may be useful or do nothing for you. Could always try emulating authors you like until work out your own writing style. Reading what you wrote out loud can help to see if what you wrote sounds awkward too.
I'd suggest reading a lot first. When you read, try to focus on what you think worked and what you would have done differently. I got into smut writing because I used to do a bunch of proofreading/editing for smut writers, but my entire background is in scientific literature. I have never written clean fiction in my entire life.
As far as other miscellaneous bits of advise go, I would suggest that it is very important to never lose confidence in yourself. Writing smut can be a bit embarrassing, but once you get a hang of it, it can be rather fun (and obviously arousing). It's going to be tough at first and you will second-guess yourself quite a bit. Stop that. Never pass up an opportunity to improve, but never stop because you think what you wrote was substandard. Keep writing. Finish a scene before going back. If you keep correcting things you don't like, you will never finish anything. Other than that, just follow basic good form for writing and editing your own work.
When you feel like you need help, feel free to post here. A lot of people post stories WiP, asking for assistance. Someone will likely be more-than-willing to help. I, for one, read every single story that comes through this thread and will make an effort to respond any time someone asks for feedback.
One genre of story that I think we haven't much explored is the whole "defeated hero(ine)s" idea. You know what I mean, right? Adventurers slip up and then either meet sticky ends or longer, more drawn out (and much stickier, if you know what I mean) ends.
Its a fairly common fetish (I think), but there's precious little smutfiction about it.
There's actually a thread sorta about it on /tg/ right now, that could provide some inspiration.
The only problem with that idea is that I tend to work best with a co-writer, and the one I'm with at present isn't really into that sort of stuff as much as I am.
You never know though.
It's hard to tell if we have a consensus on the topic. There has not been any real discussion and I think that we might benefit from throwing out a few more ideas. That being said, if we have set an absolute prompt, I am fine with that as well.
I find writing about beaten-to-death cliches to be rather fun. When the reader already knows the basic gist, it gives you a chance to play with the premise or even subvert it to comedic effect.
I got my start writing greentext, I say just jump right in, though as you write keep an ear out for how your story sounds, see if you can visualize what's going on just from what you wrote and keep in mind stuff that's obvious to you because you thought of it may not be obvious to others
That's a good idea, I kinda want to try writing that in a bit, anyone got any ideas or should I just default to my preference of femdom, tease and denial, and vore?
>any ideas or should I just default to my preference of femdom, tease and denial, and vore?
Well, if you want my advice, then I'd say you should try something outside of what you're used to. So, perhaps something with, I don't know, public use (chained up so the minions can have a crack at the females one after the other), mindbreak (the evil alchemist needs test subjects to experiment on with his new potions), beast (the hell-hounds and the sorcerer's python familiar are getting restless) maybe a bit of impreg (the evil sorcerer and her cabal now have a chaste paladin on hand who perfectly fulfills the criteria to be the one who will carry the demonspawn).
Erm... the femdom idea sounds interesting, its not usually something I dabble in much myself, so perhaps you could leave that one in.
Food for thought.
I'm fine with declaring the first chosen topic (creative uses of magic) as the official prompt. I was just hoping that we'd have a bit more back-and-forth on the matter as we have in the past, but no matter.
What I found works best is to start with kinks you already have, but mix in stuff you never considered. It's hard to write material you never had interest in and it's rather boring to just write the same topics and themes. If you're into femdom, start with that as the spine of your first story and add from there. For example, you could have a story with a d/s train where a dominatrix forces/convinces a male sub to dominate an even more submissive woman. In this manner, you can write what you know and like the best while avoiding stagnation and possibly expanding your own interests.
For a good reference, I would suggest looking into some of Moloch's stuff (speaking of which, does anyone know where he's been?). His primary fetish in almost every story is femdom, but he has written many interesting variations on it.
I wanna write a story about a shota and a foxlady. Like, full on weeaboo. But like any true amateur, I lose steam, get distracted, and never do shit about it at all. It sucks, really, I'd love to write all sorts of pervy stuff. Since I have some slow days at uni now, I might do something in my free time. Too bad I'm always on 4chan while everybody else is in bed. Ah, well. I'll throw out some ideas here, some variations of the same stories but with a different guy. I'll check back later or tomorrow to see if you guys like the ideas. I'll greentext everything:
Story 1, version 1:
>Foxlady milf (pic related) going on vacation with her shota lover to generic isolated fantasy tropical paradise
>Shota has /d/ cock
>Shota eats aphrodisiac fruit
>Can't calm down
>Lots of sex and jizz
>Version 2 has same premise, but shota wears chastity
Story 1, version 3:
>Shota replaced by double-cock werewolf
>Can be femdom as well
Story 2, ver 1:
>Bestiality between fitness girl and her fantasy-based dog (aka the dog is real in that universe)
>She sunbathes naked a lot
>Gets frisky with her dog
>Dog wants her
>They have hot sex
>Girl DP'd by dog?
>Girl loves having sex or giving him head during multiplayer games
>Tries to hold back her moans so team won't hear her
>Fails, of course
>After game, shower sex!
>Think Skyrim with a shit-ton of sexy mods and SAO style VR (aka you can feel the texture of walls, grass, cocks, etc.)
>That's it, actually
>I need to decide on what characters to use here
>Tentacles, slimes, dragons, beasts, bandits, demons and more
I'll gladly accept suggestions and ideas for the stories. I'll start writing tomorrow, will do my best to have something ready for the weekend for you guys to read. I'll post more ideas when I think of them.
Got some more ideas. I masturbate too much. Too much hentai. But hentai is so good
>Sexy angel and werewolf dude share house
>Not lovers, but live together out of convenience
>Dude drinks some magical potion that does stuff to his body
>Can't cum as he desperately jerks off
>Angel comes home, finds him in his pathetic state
>Gives him a handjob, making him shoot his stuff all over himself
>Orders him to clean up with his mouth afterward
>Locks him in a chastity belt
>Trains him to be a pet
>Ejaculation ban for quite some time
>No orgasm, just prostate milking
>Humiliates him by taking on walks in public
>He actually enjoys it
Why werewolf? Because I'm a weakminded faggot who likes the idea of a strong beast being dominated by a woman. Or girl. Should I write something loli?
Story 6: Sci-fi time!
>Alien machines walk around in massive jungles capturing females
>Protag is some loli chick, like Cham-Cham if drawn by BLADE
>Is captured by robot, raped and stuffed
>Or tentacle plant in the ground
>Both involves tentacles and maybe drugs of some kind, maybe some oviposition as well
Don't worry, no guro to find in any of these stories. I really dislike guro. Well, that's all I can think of so far. Hate that I came late to the party. Back to hentai, I suppouse.
All of those ideas seem viable except for number four, which is not yet a fully formed idea. I think that you can do a lot with the dog/werewolf and kitsune. There is quite a bit of potential taboo with a kitsune and a non-fox canid getting it on.
Requesting a short story about a guardsman and a guardswoman doing [spoiler] a quicky in a leman russ [/spoiler] HERESY, because they are bored of sitting around and waiting for enemies to shoot.
Based on a pic I found duringna recent WH40k art dump on /tg/.
Would be much appreciated.
I like story one version 2, though I don't like stupidly huge dicks but I love the idea of /ss/ femdom mixed with chastity/tease and denial play, the idea her teasing him until he's on his knees begging, pleading, and groveling before she'll even consider ridding him is delicious
[spoiler]And even then she'll probably make him get her off several times with his mouth before she even touches his chastity belt[/spoiler]
I love story 5 for the same reason as above, [spoiler]though I'd prefer werewolfshota[/spoiler], but lolidom is also delicious
Either way do what you wish, I like all the ideas except 2
[spoiler]/d/ has no spoilers[/spoiler]
No, drawfags can join in too
That's very uncharacteristic for /tg/ what had happened? Did they have some problem with the thread, or did they start a fight because of something someone said? Basically, what happened?
Board police with a personal agenda. False flagging to get other generals trying to start fights with /wst/. It was really just a couple or even one person shitposting has hard as they could. Most of it was "how dare this exist on MY /tg/"
It's not even a question of what is allowed. The mods really had very little to do with our leaving. I don't think that a single one of us would choose /tg/ as it was in the weeks before our banishment over this. Things are a bit slower these days, but anything is better than the constant false flagging and shitposting.
So, are you guys now the unofficial h-story general?
Let's say someone had some over-specific fetish (don't we all) that they could scarcely find content for, can they come to you for recommendations rather than requests? I swear, if there is some trick to finding stories I don't know what it is.
>Just be patient and use the google doc in the OP.
Oh, I'm not making a request, I'm asking if you know of any (*any*) story featuring wallbutts.
My rate for murdering people is much lower than fulfilled requests.
>I suppose so. However, most of us don't bother with external archives
Good enough for me. If say I had a fetish for semi-voluntary slavery (opt-in, not tricked or blackmailed, voluntary entry, but not opt-out, may regret or not) and I was pretty much alone with my fetish and no fetish-fuel, could anyone give me some directions?
Yes and no. What works for one person wouldn't work for another. We're also most of all of us are from /tg/, so there's a more narrow category of what people look into. Also, like I said, these threads are mainly about making new stories and people requesting/proposing story ideas.
Oh. Also contracts with explicit details, terms and conditions, duration of servitude acceptable use and so on that are fulfilled to the t.
I know this is crazy weird, but my job got mixed up with my fetish in my head, and now I have a contract fetish. Just the description of a well-written contract gets me overflowing with excitement (and other things)
Pic somewhat related: data forms and ID tags are a very inadequate substitute for a good contract, but what can you do...
>Yes and no. What works for one person wouldn't work for another.
Not necessarilly, but it might. Nothing communication of parameters can't solve.
>We're also most of all of us are from /tg/, so there's a more narrow category of what people look into
Well, you're not on /tg/ anymore. No reason you shouldn't branch out and include us /d/eviants, too in the party. We're fun at parties.
That's not how it works. These threads have been on /d/ for several months and still hasn't changed. The writers are going to keep writing the fetishes/content they like. Their tastes aren't going to change just because we're no longer on /tg/. You can request, but don't expect a delivery. If you really want something done, write it yourself.
That kind of is how it works. When you access new material, they tend to rub off on you. Slowly, but surely, you develop new fetishes. Then before you know it, you're one of us.
Several months are not much on /d/. Things are slow here, especially compared to the rest of 4chan. Everything moves at its own pace. Let's say you are 10 active people. In a year there will be 5 of us added to your mix. That's how things change even if the initial 10 users don't (which they probably will).
> If you really want something done, write it yourself.
That's exactly part of the process by which /wst/ will be /d/fied.
Don't fight it, accept your destiny and so on and so on.
[pseudospoilers] Seriously, though, the difference between /tg/ and /d/ is overstated. You don't recoil from xenos and tentacles, you're half the way here.[/pseudospoilers]
Oh cut the pretentious bullshit. No one from these threads are foreign to /d/. Funny thing about xeno stuff is it's now a "western" fetish and not allowed on /d/ anymore, got booted to /aco/. Those threads were pretty much some of the only reasons to come here. With /aco/ and /trash/ being made /d/ is /d/eader than ever.
>Oh cut the pretentious bullshit
You're probably not reading my posts as they are meant to be read. I'm being coy, not trying to make any profound statement.
>Funny thing about xeno stuff is it's now a "western" fetish and not allowed on /d/ anymore
There is no consistent application of the no western rule. I do think it was a horrible mistake making /aco/ and making it mutually exclusive with /d/ to boot (and not following the /vr/ formula) and it did hurt /d/. Technically speaking xeno is allowed here. The thread will just be liable to arbitrary deletions by our mentally deficient janitors trying to decide what is and isn't western based on no clearly identifiable criteria whatsoever. This double handicap is a problem with every thread on /d/ right now (and peculiarly not with any thread on /aco/, where hentai pictures are routinely posted, but what can you do. you can only start missing moot's capacity to ignore bad ideas).
You should not pay attention to them. They are just bitter because of the way they were driven out of /tg/ and they're taking it out on /d/ because it's not their home.
Seriously check the 4plebs archive for the last threads. It's depressing how much damage that guy did for no reason. It was just senseless shitposting. He has a very particular way of posting, too. He's very easilly identifiable.
Moving away from us wallowing in the past, I bring to you new smut! Special thanks to Anonymouse again, we make a good team.
Tags: boyxgoddess, /ss/, lactation, vaginal, oral (female), vanilla, impregnation
>Angling himself so that the head of his shaft rubbed against the inside of her mons
>inside of her mons
>The outside portion of the vagina
The word you are looking for would be the cervix. That's the portion of the vagina that would be hit by the head of the penis during the fucking. The story is good, a bit too purple prose for my taste, but it's good. Just make sure you look at anatomy though so you don't make that mons error.
You guys aren't attracting enough attention because your OP sucks (excepting the image).
I wouldn't have noticed you either if I didn't know you from when I lurked /tg/.
You need to keep your guides and smut list at the OP, welcome people to the smut thread, explain it's about discussing and creating h-stories, then follow up with your request guidelines. Consider renaming it partially, since it's very unlikely any of your threads are going to die within the three days of a weekend in /d/.
And for smut's sake, stop being so pessimistic and stop sending people away and restricting the purpose of the thread. We're already very few as it is, here. You don't have the privilege of trying to recreate /tg/'s environment, which is incomparably faster than us, on /d/.
Seriously. I've been paying attention to this thread throughout the week and there is a near-palpable sense of defeat and resignation going on. What happened to /tg/ gets shit done? You can build a new community if you take this seriously.
I remember /d/gg flickering in and out of life for a semester. We didn't think it could be viable as a steady thread, and look at how active it is now, even getting something nice done. I remember /hgg/ being ~4 people desperately trying to keep the thread alive, and now we have two /hgg/s that are reasonably fast.
Stop being so attached to the past, and look to the future with some optimism. All the wallowing makes me want to punch my screen.
Nigga, these are the mons, they are literally the exterior of the vagina. I'll say it said again, you need to know your anatomy before you make mistakes like that.
>I was trying to say that his dick was rubbing against her g-spot without using the exact words.
Then you should have just said that, and talked about more details in the actual penetrative sex part, you left it very vague and hurried in that portion of the story.
The OP of this thread used an old copypaste from the /tg/ days, the actual OP we use is here: >>6624973
But all the other points are ones I've spoken up about myself on many occasions. Some people just don't want to adapt, I suppose.
However, if you're suggesting we begin recommending fics from outside sources at the expense of trying to make our own and encouraging others to do the same, then I will have to point out that it would weaken the motivation to request fics from our own writers.
Plus, the fact of the matter is that while theoretically we're open to all genres of fapfics, in practice most of us prefer to stick to sci-fi and fantasy settings since we know them best.
That being said, if other people want to break out of that mold, I'm rooting for them. Maybe one day we can expand into a /d/ fiction general, but for now I'm content with what we've got and wish the excessively negative people would share that sentiment.
I think the problem with your outlook is that you don't appreciate how few people there are on /d/. This can't become "just" any kind of thread, because there are literally not enough people to dominate the discussion either way. You are thinking of problems of high-traffic boards. Here the enemy is idleness. You want to have a discussion going instead of just waiting for someone to provide the content that you want. You want there to be some action, so that people are inspired to lurk the thread and contribute to it because they see that there is something going on in it, instead of just some people hopelessly trying to keep a thread with no purpose alive by bumping it once a day. It's a circle, first new people take this seriously and keep lurking it, then you get requests, then you get new smut while there are people that will actually read it, and then you get critiques. Not sending people away is like oiling a machine in low-traffic boards, because it helps build a community.
If you don't build a community your problem isn't that the thread will fall off the board, your problem is that no one noticing this thread exists will think it's worth participating in it, so you won't get either new smut or people reading smut or even people requesting smut.
Someone reads the thread and he thinks, oh this is just the place where some dissapointed people lurk and talk about how nothing will get done and how nicer it was back in the old days. Well, that doesn't concern them, so what reason do they have to not just get on with their business?
That guy's probably wanting the /wst/ threads to not be dead like they have been. They have become a wallowing pit of people pining for the "good ol' days on /tg/" and we have barely been making any content, which is horrible. We can be better than this.
Why? What would cause them to quit, the fact some people are making different requests and they get squicked by that? Really, /wst/ writers are too scared to "Go There" in terms of exploring different sexualities, kinks, and strange sex organs?
Just be explicit about this being a thread where we make and discuss h-stories. People have short attention spans. That's why all generals have a welcome to x, here we do this and this, part at the top instead of obscure inside references to fantastic creatures. New people need to be able to immediately identify the purpose of the thread.
Other than that, if you want people to request smut from you guys, be explicit. Say we love requests, requests are what get us going. Then follow up with the guidelines. It's better to not explicitly deny requests you don't like, just ignore them. It's my view that it's counter-productive to get people dissapointed. Someone else may pick up their request. Yes, the existing writers may be more into fantasy/scifi, but there is no need to stress that. It only dissapoints people that would otherwise participate, both requesters and potential new writers. They get the message that this isn't the place for them, even if it might have grown to accomodate them had they stayed. If their request doesn't get picked up, tough luck. No reason to draw attention to it. Just let things play out, instead of stressing temporary limitations.
Basically just wash all the negativity off.
>That being said, if other people want to break out of that mold, I'm rooting for them. Maybe one day we can expand into a /d/ fiction general, but for now I'm content with what we've got and wish the excessively negative people would share that sentiment.
Yes! That's exactly what I'm trying to say. Don't restrict your horizons. By this is not meant that any particular author has to take up something they dislike, only that we need to have a mind towards expanding until we're viable. Otherwise, RL will eat one writer, then another, then this thread is done for.
I never gave a monkey's about /wst/ when it was on /tg/, because nearly all the stuff that you lot talked about was of no interest to me. It was only when it came here that I became a regular, because I thought that now I would be able to talk about things that I understood.
And to add something to this.
There is no need to take requests literally. Someone might make a request that is not your cup of tea, but you can get an idea that is your cup of tea from that. At the very least someone may incorporate a particular idea (say some predicament or whatever) into a setting they want to write about.
On that note, it's pointless to keep restricting ourselves to making threads on weekends. We're a general now for all respects and purposes, and we may as well embrace that fact.
So, perhaps we should rechristen ourselves as Erotic Fiction General (/efg/ if you will.)
Nobody is telling them to stop writing /tg/-related things, least of all me. But I fail to see how we could possibly be worse off by giving people more reasons to contribute. Just look at >>6634410
as an example of how we're limiting ourselves.
>So, perhaps we should rechristen ourselves as Erotic Fiction General (/efg/ if you will.)
I absolutely agree with this, but perhaps we should keep a "formerly known as /wst/" reference to our noble past.
Oh, a final note. OP guy, at the end of the OP, add a reminder that people who can should post pictures when posting. It's very useful to keep the mods away from text-based generals.
>general /d/ writethread go ahead, but make sure you actually have people wanting to contribute to that.
Then what is the point of these threads now? Are we just going to stay here on /d/ and do nothing or are we gonna adapt to the new environment and flourish. In case you forgot, we are on /d/, which means /d/ is going to be a little more favored here.
>Thinking i'm just a /d/eviant and not a fa/tg/uy too
I've been here since our expulsion to /d/ and I thought we could make it work here too because we can work on the fly, but now it seems many people are stuck in this wallowing, and rather than try to grow, we've stayed stagnant and have refused to do anything but whine and groan about us being kicked out of /tg/.
If we won't write or draw and would rather do nothing, then what's the point of the threads continuing?
They'll never stop whining, but that doesn't mean we can't drown them out or bring in new talent in that won't be hung up on the "old days".
At the least, it should be there for the first three or four threads- that should be enough for all the old guard who want to be a part of this to know about the name change.
>people aren't that stupid
You would be surprised.
The point of these threads was to try to keep /wst/ going. As you say yourself, it didn't work since most contributors either bailed or are embittered and wallowing in the past. Opening the thread up to draw in new blood is necessary, even if this means toning down the /tg/ focus.
I made our first thread on /d/ and have been one of the more persistent voices in pushing for adaptation. At the time, I made the decision to subtitle our thread with /wst/ instead of using it as the headline. I believe it important to keep a portion of our identity - both for our own sake and the chance of finding other displaced contributors - but we must also recognize that it's a really horrible name for use on /d/. Every thread here is a smut thread, and we are no longer active only on weekends. I chose scifi/fantasy in hopes that we would be able to establish ourselves here with that justification. Whatever you wish to call it, this thread has always been dedicated to producing new content in whatever form. Even in our days on /tg/, many stories were tenuously board-appropriate at best. Before we had an established community on this board, we needed a board-appropriate title and theme to test the waters. There was no scifi/fantasy thread, or anything particularly close. This is the one and only reason why I chose that designation. By taking that name, we were able to set up our first few threads while we waited to see what kind of community we have.
In our time since coming here, we have recovered a number of our old contributors, in addition to attracting a few new writers. While I, and many others, will continue to produce fantastical smut, there should be no obligation to do so. I can say with confidence, having spoken to many of our remaining writers, that a broadening of theme will not discourage them from producing content.
As such, I do agree with prior proposals that we should seek a new name and identity so that we may make our purpose on this board clear: we make smut. Whether written, drawn, or even woven into Mongolian tapestries, our purpose is to create new material, and anything that aids us in this endeavor is good for the thread. Embracing new ideas is not betraying our past, but preserving our future.
Addendum, I'd suggest publicizing the Flockmod/IRC to get people in touch.
And poke the drawfags to post what they draw on the flock in the thread and not only on their tumblrs; under an imgur link if necessary. We need all the content we can get.
>And poke the drawfags to post what they draw on the flock in the thread and not only on their tumblrs; under an imgur link if necessary
An imgur link wouldn't be necessary for drawfag stuff. /d/ has a sufficiently active drawthread and it never attracted the ire of the modteam.
>One story and a shit load of bitching
Well honestly I wish you'd all just shut up and post pics/stories/ideas but looking over the conversations from the past few days I just want to say a few points
1. I really don't like the idea of this becoming a rec thread, if someone is looking for something point them in the right direction sure, but try to keep it mostly OC/talking about requests ideas
2. I'm mostly against a name change, it's easy to search for the threads with the current name and we're still getting people trickling in from /tg/ who had no idea about the move
2a. if we do change names, I'd say go with "scifi/fantasy smut" like we did for a while, it's easy to search and gives folks from /tg/ a pretty good idea what to look for and these threads have some continuity
2b. /d/ is a slow moving board, I usually don't check these threads on the weekdays as what little activity they get is mostly on the weekends, as such I had no idea about this whole conversation until now, and it'll be easy to lose other anons who do the same in a name change. Hell, come Saturday if using the search in the cataloge didn't get me /wst/ or scifi/fantasy smut I'd probably have made a new thread without checking for anything else
3. I wish you'd all just shut up and post pics/stories/ideas or at least had the decency to post them while bitching
By this point, everyone from /tg/ who wanted to find us has already done so by now, and we're only crippling ourselves further still by limiting what we do and do not accept.
How about just calling it "Written Smut Thread"? It's simple, to the point, and it lets us use our old acronym again. Alright with you?
> I wish you'd all just shut up and post pics/stories/ideas or at least had the decency to post them while bitching
Likewise, or better yet I wish the bitter fucks could just leave and go be sullen somewhere else. They're arguably doing more damage than the shitposters ever could.
Good enough for me. So for the OP, we use this:
>This is the go-to place to discuss erotic fiction of all types, from the fap-and-go fics to porn with a substantial plot. Drawfags also welcome as well- illustrated stories are always the best ones!
>We thrive on criticism and feedback, so if you feel strongly about a given work, don't be afraid to speak your mind about it. It'll help everyone in the long run. Requests are always welcome as well, there's nothing like a good request to get the creative juices flowing.
>links to the list, request doc, etc.
Yeah, exactly. Saying the new General is being called "Written Smut Thread" sounds just that, written smut and written smut only. /efg/- Erotic Fiction General sounds like you want all erotic fiction, meaning drawn and written lewds.
Like it but I've been up too long and started to fall asleep while reading it, will do a review tomorrow when I get the chance, probably in the new thread
You'll probably also want to repost it then too
I'm gonna disagree, I'm thirding >>6634912 and >>6634931
That's a good point but I still don't like it
Most of my problem is how sudden the change is
As a few other people have pointed out /d/ is a slow board, and this was only talked about over the course of a few hours, while I'd hate to fill another thread with more arguing, I don't think any change should be made yet, or if there is a change it's small enough that searching for /wst/ or smut will still bring them to the general
Maybe keep the name /wst/ for the next couple of threads but make a strawpoll or bring it up in the flock mod and make a note in the OP about wanting to discus it there?
If this topic had gotten discussed over several days I'd feel more comfortable but this feels too sudden
Either way the thread will probably die while I'm asleep, so I'll probably have to find out what is determined in the next one, but I'm gonna stick with my point that it's happening too fast for some place as slow as /d/
It's not sudden at all if we flat-out say we're the same as they were before. We need to change, plain and simple. All that has to be done is to say it used to be called /wst/ in the subject field.
Flockmod already knows, and they're fine with it.
>One story and a shit load of bitching
Spot on, but those are but the symptoms. The problem right now is that the threads have failed their intended purpose of being a /wst/ haven. Most of the old guard of providers either didn't follow or bailed in the meantime, leaving a crawling sludge behind full of bitching.
If we want to have a thread with more contributions, then we need more people actually contributing. Limiting it to the weekend to let people work/cool down would be the cherry on top, but /d/ is simply too slow for that.
Dropping the name /wst/ altogether would be the best thing. That's basically what attract the bitter fags, they come here expecting to find what they had on /tg/ and bitch when it's not the case.
They have followed, but there's only so much they and myself can make. It's an uphill battle for us, and we need that old blood. Change is going to be an absolute necessity for us to survive, and we've spent too long pretending that wouldn't be the case. That doesn't mean becoming a rec thread, it just means we'll have more to write about than just /tg/ matters.
Think of it this way- when I'm gone who on earth is going to keep tagging and adding shit to the list like I have?
I'm the guy that initially proposed the name change, I'd also like to support not removing the /wst/ reference alltogether. It's overkill and might result in losing stragglers that were left behind.
A change of name with a reference that we used to be /wst/, either in the subject or post field accomplishes both goals of achieving some degree of change towards the more inclusive and also letting people from /wst/ find this thread.
As for the bitter people, they'll have to get on with the times. If more extreme measures are required, we can make further changes in the future.
By the way, this is something to keep in mind for later, but how about rallying our forces? Both the slavery general and the gentle femdom general have writerfags writerfagging. After some time passes we could invite them to hang around, too.
>They have followed
I disagree. Due respect to you archiving everything, and I'm glad to see finding a co-writer helped you pick up speed, but what we need are people that deliver reliably and more often. People like Mask, Monster, Moloch, Inker; and there are pretty few (if any) that remain beside Inker.
>and we need that old blood
What old blood? They left months ago and those that remain, like ND, has more or less made it known they hate it here and whine about the fact we aren't on /tg/ anymore.
/wst/ is dead and we need to accept that and move on, keeping that old moniker isn't doing anything anymore, we last longer than weekends and when /wst/ is brought up whining comes out of the woodwork. We need to completely revamp or something, but make sure everyone knows that we still allow Sci-Fi and Fantasy content, as well as let other people that may request or even make content know we aren't adverse to new things as well.
You have a point there. I know Belgi and CB still frequent the flock at least, as does Cuteanon. So the old guard is still here, even if they're busy with their own shit.
Pardon my typo.
/wst/ may be dead in that it's not what it used to be, but the people who contributed for it are still around, even if they don't say much. I know I swore to stick with this until either it died off completely or until circumstances made it impossible for me to do so.
>We've been here for several months now. The funny part is how quickly everyone would move back to /tg/ if it was allowed.
>Of course no one wants to go back to the shitposting fest, but people would chose /tg/ as it was before when the moderation actually did its job. More traffic, more people, more of a writefag 'culture' (if that makes sense),...
Indeed, and it's not like /tg/ is any less lewd without us...
>Not even remotely related to what happened. It was along the lines of "NO LEWD ON TG EVER REEEEE!"
>Uh, that guy is bitter about the /aco/-/d/ split...
>You need to keep your guides and smut list at the OP
Uh, we don't do that because auto filters target threads with web-addresses in the OP...
>On that note, it's pointless to keep restricting ourselves to making threads on weekends. We're a general now for all respects and purposes, and we may as well embrace that fact.
Actually, this is what's killing the thread...
Being up all the time means there's no rush to complete content to post, meaning no one feels a need to work on content.
I'm aware, give that I followed /wst/ for much of its life on /tg/. So don't you think the new OP should reflect that? You aren't going to get as much of the 'new blood' it's supposed to attract if you present yourself an exclusively writefagging thread.
You have a point for once, but the thread is too slow to restrict it to the weekend.
If we ever get back to the point where we can fill a thread over the course of 2-3 days, then it might be a good idea to reinstate that system; but we need to get there first.
I think we should shelve the name change for the time being, or at least have it discussed over a weekend as opposed to a single weekday, we're not on /tg/ any more a day is not long enough to get everyone's opinion, though we probably should find someplace better to talk about it then in thread, bitching just pisses people off
Honestly I prefer we go to something like sci-fi/fantasy smut thread rather than erotic fiction general, it includes both written and drawn smut and keep the connection to the old threads
That is a good point, flockmod is the most only thing that comes to mind, maybe like put a note in the next OP and/or one in a post a bit after it (I confess to normally not even looking at the OP when I come to these threads)
I think we should test the waters, now. If things are not working, we can always revert.
We've stayed like this for months, now, and it's not working.
>Honestly I prefer we go to something like sci-fi/fantasy smut thread rather than erotic fiction general, it includes both written and drawn smut and keep the connection to the old threads
We'll keep /wst/ on the name of the thread to keep a connection to the old threads. We have drawthreads on /d/ so it's unlikely we'll attract drawfags here, but the idea is to mention they're welcome in the OP. Finally, we explicitly want to avoid naming it a scifi/fantasy smut thread, in order to also attract new writerfags that don't want to write about scifi and fantasy.
>Uh, we don't do that because auto filters target threads with web-addresses in the OP...
No other general has this problem.
>Being up all the time means there's no rush to complete content to post
This seems like an excuse, to me. If you want to work on something you can work on it and get back on us during the weekend. I don't see what obstructs you.
Oh, and one other thing- I won't be able to add shit to the list for the moment because 1d4chan is sending up an error about a redirect loop. I apologize for the inconvenience and will be sure to add everything when it starts cooperating again.
An inevitable consequence of broadening things.
>/tg/ contents fail to guarner attention
>open up to other things
>other things start getting discussed
>/tg/ content eventually get completely drowned out and disappears
This seems like fear of abandonment, to me.
At the moment, we're not actually discussing anything. On the contrary, attracting more people is likely to send more attention towards /tg/ content already listed or produced. It creates an audience for every story posted here which currently just isn't around.
I'm not against opening the thread up, I'm aware it is a necessity at this point since keeping it to a /tg/ niche doesn't fly.
I am however answering the question as to where the concerns are coming from.
My point of view is that by now, we have talked about this as much as we can and we have a reached a pretty good degree of concensus.
Now is the time to act, instead of pulling back and not getting anything done. If we keep talking about it, we're only going to get demoralized as we keep imagining things that might go wrong.
Let's get through with it, and revert back if something isn't going right.
To be honest, I don't personally expect much of a change to begin with, at all. Maybe in the coming months we'll get more people on board, which will be good, but that's all you can expect on a low traffic board. I don't know if anyone of you expects to wake up and find everything to be qualitatively different. It's just something that needs to be done and forestalling isn't helping.