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/wst/ weekend smut thread

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All word and pixelly lewdness is welcome here. Writefags, consider pastebin/1d4chan rather than dumping for long stories.

People especially appreciate it when you give them meaningful feedback and criticism, so make sure to do so. It's easy and both writefags and drawfags will love you for it.

In any case, enjoy! Remember to play nice and that all contributions and requests are welcome!

DISCLAIMER: Although requests are encouraged to promote a constant flow of new content, unfortunately not all of them can be fulfilled even at the best of times; don’t take it personally if we don’t get to you right away. Please try to expand your ideas - a bare-bones request doesn't give us much of a good idea as to what you want. Remember- have fun with it!
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>>6624885
Master smut list:
http://1d4chan.org/wiki//tg/%27s_Smut_Index

A guide to constructive criticism, because "Your writing/artwork sucks" doesn't help anyone get better at it.

http://pastebin.com/1s1fLktL

Currently we are creating a set of guides to aid new and upcoming smut writers, if you feel as if you can contribute anything, please do so in-thread!

Completed guides:

Smut Writing for the Sexually Inexperienced: http://pastebin.com/znDUfbtB

Writing from the Female Perspective: http://pastebin.com/M5FNyVWH

Guide to writing monsters in smut: http://pastebin.com/iXjPcUTb
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New thread, new week. What's everyone working on?
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>>6624889

You forgot to add the unfilled prompt archive, which is here: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1nyDKegfYhIvlv7ZvGoxswIVkiG5lw1lrOeDFvZbw_WU/edit?pli=1

Something tells me that you're working off an old OP post from our /tg/ days. Not to rag on you (and forgive me if it seems that way!), but is the copypasta you have not up to date?
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Does anyone still remember a while ago, a request about having a paladin fall in love with a female angel and a succubi? I'd like to request that, where the Angel (Raquel) and the Succubi (Helena) are competing for the paladin's affection, but he will eventually take both of them as his lovers. However, there will still be catfights. The first one will be with Raquel defeating Helena and disciplining her to be less lewd/promiscuous than her usual daemonic nature, whereas the second catfight will involve Helena trussing up Raquel in bondage and teaches her to not be so sexually repressed.
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>>6624917
Yeah, sorry. I couldn't find the recent ones, so this is the best I could work with.
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>>6624922
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think that story, almost verbatim, was already written. Have you checked the master list?
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>>6624926
ah crap. I haven't.
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>>6624926
>http://1d4chan.org/wiki//tg/%27s_Smut_Index
I'm not exactly sure I see the tags for it in there.
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I find it slightly disconcerting that any randomly selected picture from the unsorted folder I'm pulling from qualifies as scifi or fantasy.
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>>6624924

Like I said, I wasn't ragging on you. It happens, man!

Now, if you'll excuse me, I have prompts to add, which I also recommend other people do as well. To the tripfag-mobile, away!
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>>6624926
If I remember correctly, someone tried to make that fic, but it wasn't at all follow the idea that was conceived.
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>>6624932
I can be wrong as to where it's from, but I do know that I have read something incredibly similar to that story. It might just be that it's a fairly classic idea and is almost invariably on Literotica somewhere. I wouldn't mind seeing one come from here (I've always loved supernatural harem-type stuff), however.
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>>6624932
>>6624938
That's entirely possible, I'm working off of memory here. I might have also just seen something similar elsewhere. It's a fairly classic plot. I wouldn't mind seeing that story written, however. I'm certainly interested.
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Hey, does anyone want to make a 40k warband/hivesplinter/order/etc. that's smut related?

I'm using this as my reference/inspiration: http://pastebin.com/fHJV8SB2
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>>6624924
For your convenience, here's our new OP. Use this from here on out, because anything else will make you look like you've been out of the loop for months.

Elves, Dragons, Giants, Slimes, Aliens, Robots, Monsters and anything in between, if you know what I mean.

People especially appreciate it when you give them meaningful feedback and criticism, so make sure to do so. It's easy and both writefags and drawfags will love you for it. Also, try and keep image dumps to a minimum so that more OC can be posted.

Master smut list:
http://1d4chan.org/wiki//tg/%27s_Smut_Index

Requests Document Database (feel free to add your requests to this when you post them in the thread!):

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1nyDKegfYhIvlv7ZvGoxswIVkiG5lw1lrOeDFvZbw_WU/edit?pli=1
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>>6624956
I can't remember the title, but it has in.fact been written, right down to the character names.

Next time, check the list before you ask, lest you look ungrateful for what you already have..
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>>6624885
Requesting cultist chan rubbing her feet (on the dick) against a slaaneshi corrupted/ing sister of battle whose growing a dick. Implying cultist chan is corrupting SoB with her feet. Both are enjoying it
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>>6624909
Mostly taking care of the list, though when I get back to my regular computer I'm going to try and add a bit more to a fic I was working on with Anonymouse. After that, I'm considering starting up a sequel to Electric Sleep, or at least get some planning done for it. What about you guys?
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Final Fantasy
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Hopefully a writefag will take this smut request up:

Prologue:

A sister of battle squads is purging a hidden slaaneshi cult intent on opening a warp portal. The cult is cleansed, and sisters destroy whatever artifacts they find. What they cant destroy, they place in a sealed vault inside their monastary.

Main: A tiny piece of an artifact resembling a human foot falls from a transport in the monastary. A lone sister discovers it and mistakes it fo a piece of broken ornamentation. She makes an amulet out of it, which begins to corrupt her when she puts it on. She soon starts obsessing over (yes, this is a footfag smut, oh well) feet in every way possible, and despite her best efforts, cannot satisfy her desires. Her self worship soon drive her to seek other sources of foot related pleasure. The sister starts to corrupt other sisters with her same desires by forcefully shoving her feet into her victims mouth/pussy, (resistance gives way to foot sex/worship) who soon spread the corruption to others. As the corruption reaches a critical mass, a giant foot orgy errupts at prayer (all sisters are attending) which begins to corrupt the room. A warp portal begins to open at the peak of the orgy, which starts physically corrupting the sisters. Many become futas which introduces footjobs into the orgy. In addition to turning pinkish, various sisters hands change to feet. The more clumsy appendage keeps some of them from getting off as much as they like, causing a buildup of sexual frustration which turns them into slaaneshi feet-abominations. The originaly corrupted sister (one of the most mutated) takes charge of the frenzy leads the orgy to dominate the rest of the sparsely populated planet.

The epilogue is up to writefags.
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Well, seeing as how we're onto corruption,

Does anyone want to do a piece on Miriael Sabathiel capturing Ephrael Stern and corrupting her to Slaanesh?

Stern goes on a hunt for Sabathiel in order to stop her from corrupting more people. Unfortunately, Sabathiel lays a trap for Stern and captures her. She then brings in her own warband of slaaneshi warriors, chaos astartes, and corrupted sisters to have and orgy and break Stern, corrupting her as well.
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>>6625113
>Ephrael Stern

Isn't that the one Mary Sue sister with the not-psychic-honest powers that somehow managed to disguise herself as an Eldar once?
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>>6625123
dunno, she's just the only other notable SoB that I can think of.
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is it ok to request fics that don't have anything to do with tabletop games now? Like, if I requested a story on Lara Croft, would that be ok?
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>>6625138
You can, but it doesn't mean anyone will care about it or write it.
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Anyone interested in some lesbian fairy smut with rape, mindcontrol and corruption elements? I'm interested in writing in either comic script or prose/short story style.

Anyone particularly interested either way
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>>6625150
Would you be ok with including Lara Croft in it? Like, Lara Croft goes to examine some ruins, which were supposedly inhabited by fairies and the like?
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Does anyone have any wordporn where a character is reduced in intelligence to that of an animal?

Like, even more dumb than bimbofication. Male or female, gay or straight, it doesn't matter.
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>>6625162
I don't think that there's such a thing, written or drawn.
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>>6625093
> footfag bait
Meh.

> clumsy hand-feet sister-spawn can't jack futa-dicks enough to satisfy their lust & the force of it corrupts them into daemonettes
HOLY FUCK INSTA-STEEL-CLIT
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>>6625150
That sounds wonderful. I personally prefer prose.

>>6625155
I don't think I've ever seen this thread write anything with established characters that weren't from MtG. I wouldn't hold my breath if I were you. What is it about the character that you like so much? If you were willing to settle for lookalikes, you'd have a much better chance of getting something written.

>>6625162
Check MCStories. Svengali has a tag for it, if memory serves.
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>>6625243
hey, lookalikes are fine, too.
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>>6625243
>Check MCStories. Svengali has a tag for it, if memory serves
Unfortunately I have been going there for nearly a decade. I'm mostly tapped out. I was just hoping there was another site I could get this from.
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>>6625250
In that case, request away. If you have a good idea in mind, someone may well write it.

>>6625252
Oh. That's terribly unfortunate. Having an MC fetish is true suffering. Once you've exhausted your pick of kinks on MCS, you're pretty much fucked.
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Hmmm.. Requesting a pic of a SoB Hospitalier who uses her gene modded breasts to nurse orphan babies before they get shipped off to the Scholia.
Maybe fic of her getting addicted to her nipples getting sucked so she tries to get her fellow sisters to relieve her sore breasts "Theya re just full of milk! Please help me Sister!"
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>>6625261
why not have cultists/tyranids capture her to feed their young?
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>>6625274
A pampered queen who is ferociously guarded? They compete for the rights to nurse from her.
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>>6625235

Insta-steel-clit?
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>>6625261
makes me wish for chaos corrupted sisters whose breasts are large and lactating, being milked so that it can be sold as high quality refreshments.
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>>6625375

Or a massive wide-on. Whatever.
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>>6625381

This implies you are a femanon. Are you?
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>>6625390

Nah, I just have a vagina on my left bicep. It's weird, but fully functional. I use it to store pens.
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>>6625406

I see. Carry on then
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>>6625410

You can fuck the arm vagina if you'd like.
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>>6625413
Sex while doing curls?

*Huff huff huff* Just 10 more and I'll have you cumming like a geyser.
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>>6625123
Yep, that's her. One of the old Warhammer Monthly comics characters.
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>>6625243
And a certain Eldar farseer, of course.
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Are you taking story requests?

If so, I'd love to read a story about Juri Han growing hyper huge muscles and a hyper-gargantaun cock, and she can't stop jacking it off. She then picks up Decapre and fucks her like a living condom and cum-inflates her to impossible proportions while Juri Han flexes and her cock keeps getting bigger and bigger even while cumming oceans inside Decapre.

No limits on the size of Juri's muscles, Juri's cock, or Juri's cumloads. The universe isn't big enough for what I'd love to see.
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>>6625625
Luckily, Juri Han's Feng Shui engine is enough of a plot device to make something like this happen. And seriously, fuck Decapre. Fuck you Capcom for teasing you were bringing back R. Mika and Retsu, and then that shit.
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>>6625625
>>6625626
You're in the wrong thread for this sort of thing. This isn't a /d/ write thread and actual characters will pretty much never draw the interest of the writers.
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>>6625630
Try asking for /tg/ characters instead. You're free to start up a more general writethread though.
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>>6624909
That Eldar x Dark Eldar with a Sslyth vore story. Still trying to write a decent opening that flows smoothly into the action.
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>>6625150
>fairies

With (a) tiny tinkerbell-like pixie(s) domming a big human (or more)? Yes, please!
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So I got a tablet now. Fiddling with it for a bit. Not taking requests until I feel comfortable with it though. So I'll dump instead the Jaquelot/knight girl pics I did today.
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And that's it.

If I don't do traditionals, does it mean I can't namefag using Inkeranon anymore?
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>>6625937
Looking pretty good to me!
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>>6625949
You can call yourself Inker if you like, its what we're used to anyway.

Think you might be up for a request or two later?
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>>6625949
base your name in your roots, mang
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>>6625413
>>6625406
>>6625410
/d/, ladies & gentlemen.
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I would like to request a Twi'lek twink in the same pose as the man on the right. The alien himself can have the face of the guy in the middle with the same dappled pattern on his body like the face has. The picture on the left is how the headtails look when they aren't covered by headgear.

I hope this isn't too hard to understand. If it is, tell me.
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>>6625949
Your work look way better than before ! Good job !
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>>6625937
>>6625938
>>6625941
>>6625942
>>6625946
>>6625947
>>6625949


This is really cleaner and crisper than your inked pieces. How do you like the tablet?
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>>6624991
She a cute. I haven't seen this artist before, though
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>>6625949
Hey, Inker, can you draw me another bit with the psyker and SoB? Namely, they're in Imperial Wedding dresses.
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>>6626825
Dude, let him breathe with your couple, he just said he wasnt taking requests yet.
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>>6626841
sorry, I missed that part.
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>>6624885
Did you guys move out of /tg/, then?
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>>6627087
Hang on; misphrased that.

Did the Weekend Smut Thread move out of /tg/?
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>>6627089
Was forced out months back due to dedicated shitposting, mods being bad/lazy at their jobs, and such. Been here for some time now.
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>>6627093
Apparently, you can't permaban a guy who keeps using airplane mode
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>>6625261
I'm up for yuri breastfeeding.
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I'm glad I found a thread for original stories. Recently I've been working on a story of a trap who gets raped by a loli succubus. Would anyone be interested in me completing it?
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>>6627268
Of course.
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Why can't we also have stories based on other properties? Seems kinda hypocritical that so much stuff is based off 40k and hardly any other settings are given the time of day.
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>>6627452
But we do have stories based on other settings, and quite a few made up by ourselves too. Perhaps you should look at what's actually on the list before making baseless accusations next time.
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>>6627457
Fair enough, anything that's not based off a /tg/ property is what I should've said.
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>>6627460
>the writers/the thread itself/most of the anons are from /tg/
>/tg/ content is what people focus on/make content for
these threads may be on /d/, but they're still /tg/ threads if you understand that
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>>6627461
That said, you're welcome to request stuff not directly related to /tg/, but the chances of it being accepted will be less than ideal.
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>>6627461
Yeah, but speaking as someone who only came to these after the move, I think we should embrace the new freedom allowed to us. I was never interested in these threads when they were on /tg/ because I had little to no interest in the things discussed. Now we don't have to stick to one thing anymore, you know? This leads onto my second point.

>>6627464
I'm well aware of that, and I think that's part of the problem. People think that there's no audience (or the audience that's here has no interest) for stuff based on other settings. It might just be me, but it seems like there's almost a stigma against doing stories and whatnot outside of the envelope of /tg/ properties.

Am I making sense?
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>>6627470
The thing is, the writers here don't like to write about settings they're not familiar with, even /tg/ settings, and majority also dislike writing about already existing characters from their series.
Like we told people before. If you want certain content and no one is making it, then do it yourself.
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>>6627464
I request something for >>6625162

40k, D&D, doesn't matter. This fetish has been tapped out for the most part for me and it makes me sad.
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Hi, /d/ lurker and smut writer here. Been writing for little over a year now, and am working on multiple projects at once. I was hoping that since /d/ is home to Queen's Stallions and overly fetishistic people, that some of you might appreciate this Queen's Stallion transformation and fart story I wrote last year.

You can check it out at its Hentai-Foundry link here: http://www.hentai-foundry.com/stories/user/Blue-Vapor-Concord/17844/D-Grade-Fomula-for-Prospective-Stallions/45126/Chapter-0/D-Grade-Formula-for-Prospective-Stallions

But if you're not one for HF, here's a pastebin link: http://pastebin.com/m7hURkJZ

i'm open for requests from anyone here. Currently I'm working on a comic, a belated Secret Santa, and a commission, so while I'll keep your request tucked away, it may be quite some time before it gets done.

I also would like some advice on where to post stories. Currently, I've been using Hentai-Foundry, Archive of Our Own for fanfic, and Tumblr, but I want to phase out Hentai-Foundry because its formatting pisses me off and it takes too much time to get a story looking nice on there.
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>>6624966
>Hey, does anyone want to make a 40k warband/hivesplinter/order/etc. that's smut related?
Well considering I've probably got ideas for each and every one of those, sure!

>>6625093
>Many become futas which introduces footjobs into the orgy.
AND you lost me...

>>6625113
Not terribly possible, considering Stern is running on the souls of a couple hundred Sisters who already refused to fall to the Keeper of Secrets who wired them all together for super torture...

>>6625261
>Maybe fic of her getting addicted to her nipples getting sucked so she tries to get her fellow sisters to relieve her sore breasts "Theya re just full of milk! Please help me Sister!"
>>6625274
>why not have cultists/tyranids capture her to feed their young?
>>6625311
>A pampered queen who is ferociously guarded? They compete for the rights to nurse from her.
>>6625378
>makes me wish for chaos corrupted sisters whose breasts are large and lactating, being milked so that it can be sold as high quality refreshments.
>>6627178
>I'm up for yuri breastfeeding.
INDEED!!!

>>6625949
BASED INKER IS NOW ELECTRONICALLY BASED!!!
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>>6627461
>>6627470
Honestly, while I wouldn't mind non/tg/ stuff, I'm usually uninterested in specific characters from other media outside of a few situations

I like keeping it /tg/ because you can make your own scifi/fantasy OCs for the stories

Though feel free to request away, there's nothing in the rules against it, but while I wouldn't mind other stuff, I myself probably wouldn't request or write something using preexisting characters except for a few exceptions


>>6627609
Hi, welcome, will check out your stories in the morning
What's the Queen's Stallions about?
Also tags, tags are well liked here
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>>6627722
Are you asking what Queen's Stallions are, or what my story is about?

Also, how i exactly do I tag? Sorry, I'm kind of a newfag as far as posting goes.
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>>6627853
>Are you asking what Queen's Stallions are, or what my story is about?
Probably both.

Queen's Stallions right?
http://g.e-hentai.org/g/674043/60d8a71e60/

>Also, how i exactly do I tag? Sorry, I'm kind of a newfag as far as posting goes.
Just post examples of what sort of fetishes/action one would expect to see.

In your case (drug use?, Transformation, human male x ??? male, fart fetish?)
I just skimmed it. Someone more into it could probably come up with better tags.
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Didn't the WST use to be posted over at /tg/? Did it get banned there, or is this just our version of it?
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>>6627885
It was, yes, but it got shitposted from there to here.
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>>6627890
Oh. That's kinda sad.
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Do we have a best of list for smut? Like the game generals have GotW and recommended pastebins?
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>We know, it's not the best place for us to go but nobody else wanted us.

T-that's not very nice.
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>>6627899
Not exactly. It would be tricky for us to all agree on what would be considered "best", but we can give general recommendations. Looking for something specific?
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>>6627918
That's a problem with games, too. We can't all agree on what's good. But I think we can reach some light agreement about what stories are generally well done, or are above-averagely creative or original and so on. Or just a pastebin where we can log stories that seemed to attract more attention than usual, like a gotw pastebin.

My deal here, is that traversing literotica or asstr searching for minimally decent stories on any given fetish is basically a nightmare inside a nightmare, the experience of which I can't properly convey using words. It seems to me that a pasebin gathering links to noticeable installments would go a lot of way to improve things.
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>>6627927
Hrm. I recall doing something similar to that in a /wst/ thread a while ago, posted some links to authors that I found particularly noteworthy.

I'm up for contributing, if you're going to do one.
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>>6627930
I wouldn't mind organising one, once I have some more free time in my hands, actually. I just thought I should gauge reactions beforehands.

I was thinking of a pastebin with a few general fetishes/ themes and a few stories catalogued under each of those. It can be made progressively, starting from one fetish before moving to the next, and including stories after a short discussion here, so that the community can sort of filter through them. Then at the end we can have a list of notable authors. Thoughts?
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>>6627947
Sounds like a good idea. Might make the list a bit less daunting.

Here's my general plan for a theoretical layout:

>Vanilla

>Rape/Dubcon

>BDSM stuff

>Other fetishes

>Perhaps one for specific settings?
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>>6627947
Sorta like the old Xeno threads' titanpad?
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>>6627915
True I guess, but what ya gonna do?
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>>6627953
To build on this:
>Vanillest vanilla (break vanillest vanilla apart from groupsex?)

>exhibitionism

>Scifi general

>machines, medical and SCIENCE! (different category for robots?)

>Fantasy general

>consentacles and consensual interspecies mishmashing (break into two categories?)

>consensual bondage and bdsm

>rape/dubcon

>generalised slavery

>mindcontrol

>bodycontrol (I think it's best to keep more specific categories with fewer stories close to each other instead of combining them, for better ease of searching)

>Tentacle grapes and forced interspecies integration (make different categories for insects/insectoids, parasites and biosuits?)


>I personally abhorr stories about vampires, werewolfs and the like, so I would support them being a distinct category from the general monster categories. Literotica's mixed non-human category is a cause of perpetual frustration.

>Other

>Notable authors

>>6627976
Kinda, yes. Except logging only notable stories and not only stories written here.
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>>6627996
The ide has merit, but how do we define "notable"?
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>>6628164
Above average in terms of creativity, originality or execution. No grammatical errors or anatomical mistakes that could make someone want to claw their eyes out. Scenes described in a way that doesn't resemble the way foods are listed in a delivery catalogue.

Stories of some quality, as that will be ascertained by the people in this thread in conditions of relaxed evaluation.

To be honest I don't think it's that hard to propose a story that stuck with you, neither do I think it's really that challenging to disqualify the ungodly amounts of literal trash that are passed around in erotica sites. I assume all of us can think of a story or two that stuck with us , which we found peculiarly more arousing than others and so on.

I mean, it's not really a science. When /d/gg made their pastebin they didn't first decide on the transcendental nature of goodness. They just added the somewhat popular games that weren't obviously trash to it. I think we can do that, too.
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>>6628164
Any that particularly grab your attention. I can think of a few right off the bat.
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>>6627699

Fag who wrote the foot thing here. You can exclude whatever you dont like.
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>>6628216
Mind naming em?
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>>6627947
>>6627953
>>6627996
I agree with this idea, but there should also be minimal use of tagging, just so we can decipher which stories have what content (the classical f-self, ff, mm, fm etc, perhaps one for futa)
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>>6628357
True. Of course, there may still be overlap between categories as well.
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>>6628357
Sure. Why not. I would just argue that we should avoid anything more than that, because then you have two lines of tags for each story and no one bothers with them.

Anyway. I'm going to make a prototype paste now, with just the general layout, so we can have something to build on.

>>6628362
I agree. I think it's practically impossible not to have at least a bit of overlap, unless you make categories so specific as to coincede with just one story, each.
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>>6628164
>>6628216
>>6627930
>>6628357
>>6628362
Ok, so here's the pastebin:
http://pastebin.com/wYE0AJaV

Thoughts? Something that should be added? Something that should be removed or modified?
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>>6628544
I think that would work, although some of the categories might not have much in them (e.g. biosuits, mind control, and body control are ones which have few to no stories that would fit in them).

Getting some consensus as to which stories should be added- that's the tricky part.
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>>6628587
Yeah, my thought was that it would be better to have categories with few stories in them, instead of mixing stories with different appeals up.

>Getting some consensus as to which stories should be added- that's the tricky part.

Sure, but it's also the fun part, and we can take it one story at a time if need be.
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>>6628625
I was thinking that a voting system would be best; as in, someone says "Hey, this fic is pretty damn good" and then puts it into limbo where it needs X amounts of positive votes to put it onto the list, or X amounts of negative votes to remove it from the list, or what have you.
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>>6628629
We could use strawpolls, or we could be more lax about it and just talk about each suggestion amongst ourselves for a while. It either is included or is disqualified. Other than that, having the ability to disqualify stories already included sounds like it would foster drama and constant revisions. I don't support that.
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>>6628629
>>6628652
Alright. Would it be bad form to nominate one's own works?
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>>6628656
How would we know? If you really think it's that good, irrespective of you having authored it, give it a go.

I think there is another problem. We seem to be very few. I could add stories a week or two after they are proposed so that there is some feedback over each suggestion. We could make a post with the suggested stories at the beginning of each thread to gather feedback on them.
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>>6628666
Sounds like a good plan to me. Give me a little while, and I'll post some of my proposals. I promise I won't toot my own horn too much.
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>>6628670
Well, I asked a friend and he mentioned a few:

>Machine Intimacy by DLFG
>Lolth's Prize series by TAWWTG
>Strange Bedfellow by Belgianon
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Am I the only person who thinks that a "notable story" archive - particularly one that involves a vote system - is a horrible idea? Our community isn't particularly stable as it is, and this doesn't seem like something that will help that. I, for one, would like to not repeat the tripfag fights from last year. Nothing starts fights quite like arguing over taste.

I know that we have a whole lot of stories, but our tagging is good-enough to offset this. The main problems with huge repositories like Literotica is the lack of meaningful tagging and the presence of absolute garbage writing. Neither of these is an issue for us. The archive is plenty navigable, and it's easy enough to search by tag or just find an author you like and read through all of his/her stuff.
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>>6628824
True enough. I mostly just saw it as a way of stimulating discussion here, but since we have tags a "recommendations" section is irrelevant.
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>>6628850
Discussion is good, but running through old works doesn't seem to be especially productive, particularly when we have hundreds of them.

If anything might get discussion going, it might be to bring back smutt-offs. Those were generally enjoyable and would provide a lot to talk about.
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>>6628869
I know it's been too long since we had one. So, what were you thinking we should select as the subject of it?
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>>6628905
Frankly, I hadn't given it any real thought. It strikes me as the kind of thing that should be done at a busier hour anyway.
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>>6628923
This is as busy as we get, and it'll give people advance warning as to the subject. Don't be shy, go ahead.
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The other day I had an idea for a short story based on a space adventurer going around with her alien lover, which is a sentient puddle of telepathic slime.

Sound like a good idea?
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>>6629176
Yeah, that does sound pretty cool. I think you should go for it' I'd read it.
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>>6629205
Just kinda wondering how everything would work. I mean, y'know, its got no muscles or bones or anything.
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>>6629206
if he goes about it like the symbiotes from spiderman and the slime bonds with a host it would work fine
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>>6629208
Hrm, that reminds me of another bit of a story I did a while ago and never finished. Couldn't get away from making it seem like she was just masturbating.
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>>6624885
Wow, the picture is so artfully done, just a few lines and it all jumps at you. Can any1 give sauce? It reminds me of sinfest but he's not the author.
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>>6629206
/tg/ would answer: "It's magic, I don't have to explain anything."

If you really want some pseudo-scientifical lingo, check up amoeba 'physiology'.
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>>6629281
I don't exactly mean in terms of physiology, more how it can actually coax any reaction from her. How it'd create any friction, if that makes any sense.
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>>6628824
I'm the guy that had the idea. I agree that a voting system, especially one using strawpolls, could foster drama, and that's the furthest thing from what I intend. But can't we have some relaxed discussion over recommendations? I mean, if we really can't talk about a story at all without starting a shitfling, what good is a thread where discussing stories is the subject?

I don't think that tagging, regardless of how good it is, is enough to do the work of a recommendation list. It's very easy to be immobilised by the sheer amount of stories in any repository -including the /tg/ smut index-, even if they are perfectly well tagged. I think mutually trusted recommendations do a work that directly diving into the deep and struggling with sentient garbage for hours, simply can't.

Further, my intention wasn't to rank our own stories, but also to catalog notable stories from other sources such as literotica, asstr and so on, and I don't think it neccessary to argue that searching for something good there is cruel and unusual punishment. To my knowledge there is no catalog that could ameliorate the misery of that task.

Have I persuaded you, yet?
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>>6629291
most just go to the master smut list and ctrl+f for tags that suit their tastes
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>>6629292
Not who you're replying to, but I've tried that once or twice and it rarely gets results.
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>>6629292
I feel that this doesn't engage with what I'm talking about, on any level, but ok.
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>>6629295
Either you're fetishes are very unpopular with our writefags or it might be from the people who have been a part of this longer and are more familiar with what tags are used.
>>6629296
There's really no way of doing what you want to do without some form of ranking the stories. And since these are porn stories it doesn't matter how well written they are if they are about fetishes a person doesn't like/care for there's no enjoyment in them for that person.
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>>6629287
For the "communication" part, you could explain it away with her picking up on his scent/pheromones on top of telepathy. (and yes, I know those are supposed to only work on the same species, but hey...)

For the friction part, she can 'harden' her outer membrane to be firm, flexible and with a decent degree of sensibility.
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>>6629291
The project that you are talking about is absolutely herculean, particularly when you consider the sheer number of fetishes involved. What you would end up with is an extensive and contentious discussion over relatively common fetishes and absolutely nothing for anything more obscure. I feel as though the inevitable result is pretty much the opposite of what you intend.

I do agree that Literotica needs some fucking help, but I don't think that we're the ones to do it, nor do I think a "notable story" catalog is going to save that clusterfuck. What they need is a dedicated, usable search engine like Svengali.
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>>6629304
And in our case, you can just ask for recommendations instead while making sure you tell us what you want to see. Unlike Literotica, we're willing to help you find shit.
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>>6629298
>There's really no way of doing what you want to do without some form of ranking the stories.

Whenever you are asked to recommend a story in x category, do you form in your mind a complete and transitive ordering of preferences in terms of stories? Or do you just remember something that was notable and recommend that? How come everyone other than us can make a recommended pastebin, apparently without having to resort to that kind of work, yet we can't? Is the quality of stories more subjective than the quality of games?

>since these are porn stories it doesn't matter how well written they are if they are about fetishes a person doesn't like

I am more optimistic. I think we can tell when we don't like a story because we dislike the fetishes featured in it and so we can either overlook that or simply avoid talking about that story and let its respective fetishists talk about it.

>>6629304
>The project that you are talking about is absolutely herculean

I think you're exaggerating. It can't be more herculean than making a pastebin with recommended VNs. I feel we're at that point where we don't have much to talk about and should instead start doing things to avoid fighting over details and imagined difficulties. I'll just try to organise the pastebin, and if things actually are so unmanageable, or they devolve in practice, I'll just scrap it.
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>>6629308
> How come everyone other than us can make a recommended pastebin, apparently without having to resort to that kind of work, yet we can't?
Because they're not the people who make the games in the first place, and they can all agree on what they want out of a game. Let's face it, you're trying to ask something we can't do.

>I am more optimistic. I think we can tell when we don't like a story because we dislike the fetishes featured in it and so we can either overlook that or simply avoid talking about that story and let its respective fetishists talk about it.

That's because you weren't there to see what happened last time a task like this was tried. It was a complete failure.


And if it's discussion you want, discuss settings, ideas, and things to try out in stories, not what amounts to a glorified popularity contest.

Here, I'll start: why do you think it is that so many of our fics involve mages and psychics, but very few of them actually involve magic and psychic powers being used during sex?
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>>6629314
Not him, but if you think people agree on what they want out of a game, you haven't spent too much time on /v/. Or hell, free cities is lauded as a masterpiece in /d/gg and considered unworthy of attention or bad in /hgg/.
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>>6629308
I think that the issue here is that I don't see this project accomplishing what you want it to. If you polled the entire thread on their favorite story in a reasonably well-traversed genre/fetish, you'll probably get at least ten different answers, probably more. Subjectivity plays an enormous role, even within fetishes. Vore, for instance, has seemingly dozens of variations, some of which may be appealing to a single person, while others may be actively disgusting. There have been stories here, with both authors and fetishes I like that I have disliked simply due to particular implementation.

It's not that I think your idea is inherently bad, only that there is no good way to implement it. I can only see this going one of two ways: the specificity of fetishes causes a huge number of stories to be nominated, invalidating the project by creating a list of comparable size, or we are forced to filter all of the suggestions by popularity or similar metric, leading to a list of only the most popular variations of each fetish. This will naturally lead to some fetishes being entirely unrepresented, making the list useless for a reasonably large number of people.

If you doubt my argument, look again to MCStories. By your classification, everything on that site is a single fetish. Go hover around in the hypnosis/mind control general and ask for recommendations from that site and see what happens. I can think of maybe two stories that I've seen mentioned more than once on that thread, and not because of site volume. Personal preference dominates every level of smut discussion.

As far as the VN general goes, that is an entirely separate concept and a bad comparison. First of all, they are limited in the scope of their responsibility by applicability to the thread: translated VNs that are either strictly SFW or pornographic in nature (depending on which general you're talking about) are relatively few in number. (Out of characters, new post).
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>>6629308
>>6629317
Moreover, the group nature of playing games dramatically simplifies their task. People like to talk about the games they're playing. This encourages people to play more popular games in order to increase the chance of having someone to talk with. This occasionally leads to VNs getting their own threads, like in the case of MGQ.

When is the last time you've seen someone in this thread ask what other people are reading? Our "hobby", if you will, is inherently more singular and personal. This thread exists to inspire, suggest, and create content. There is no reason for us to restrict our field in the way that other generals do. We will read stories pursuant to our fetishes, regardless of popularity, even if it is obnoxiously difficult to find anything we like (again, see MCStories and the infinite variations on a single fetish).

I understand that it is not your intent to catalog every imaginable sub-fetish. No one wants to do that. All that I am saying is that I do not understand what can be accomplished by doing what you suggest. You place a few stories at arm's reach for new people to begin browsing, but this has never really been a problem. If you manage to make it to this thread, on this board, on this site, chances are you are not exactly new to the world of bizarre and obscure fetishes. You probably don't need assistance finding notable stories in a fetish, but rather stories that fill some arcane set of requirements that aren't easy to list, much less agree upon.

That being said, if you still believe that the task is worth attempting, I'm certainly not going to stop anyone. It is entirely possible that all of your detractors have simply been scouring for porn for too long and are out-of-touch with a much broader community that may benefit from your proposal. I have no idea. If you think it might work, go for it and see what happens. If it becomes a problem, or accomplishes nothing, just pull the plug before it goes wrong.
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>>6629314
Honestly, I've wondered that myself a few times. It's not even that it's not being used, but that there is absolutely no variation. Sharing sensation comes up damn near every single time there's a farseer, but it is virtually the only type of magic/power/whatever ever used in smut outside of transformation.
As far as discussion goes, I still insist that starting another smut-off would be the best way to get the thread mojo running. I just honestly have no suggestions at this time for a topic. I think that we would do well to consider this.
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>>6629317
>>6629325
Your post has been reasonable. I don't agree completely, but I'm persuaded that it's not worth pursuing this now.

At some point in the future I might try to approach this differently, by asking for recommendations on some specific category and gauging what kind of discussion can stem from that, whether any kind of lax agreement is possible and whether there is any use to gathering those recommendations in one place.
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>>6629342
That actually sounds like a good idea of how to start testing the water on that. We'll see how it goes, I guess.
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...So, is anyone going to do anything, or are we just discusssing things we are going to do while accomplishing nothing?
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>>6629357
If you need to ask, it's probably the latter.

But don't worry. The human mind can not intuit nothingness except as a positive form that can be distinguished from positive space only by means of second-order conceptual abstraction. So we are accomplishing something.
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>>6629368
That's deep, but I do agree that this should be a smut-off idea. It's broad enough to cover a variety of topics and fetishes while still having a central theme to work with.

SMUT OFF: Write a fic involving the creative use of magic and/or psychic powers during sex- the more exotic the better. Mind-linking, superhuman endurance, maybe transformation during the act itself- the sky's the limit!

Pic semi-related, should give you an idea of one way to do it. And because Lewdanon is a good guy, wish he was here.
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>>6629380
Hrm. Fascinating prompt. Speaking as someone who knows an embarrassingly small amount about the history/traditions of /wst/ how does a smut-off work?
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>>6629399
There's a given subject and everyone feeling like it writes a story about it. Twist and ben to your liking as long as it respects said prompt.

There should be a submission deadline as well.
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>>6629380
I actually quite like this prompt. I would gladly write for this.
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>>6629404
In the past the submission deadline extended for two weeks or so, but given that /d/ is far slower on /tg/, I'd say about a month from now or so would be more reasonable in this situation.

It should also be in the next OP as well under the usual copypasta.
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>>6629411
One months sounds pretty good. A longer time to write should give us a better turnout, which is particularly helpful for us right now. It might also give some of our old regulars who lurk more than write a chance to get back in the game.
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>>6629368
The only thing that's being accomplished is the fact in about a month nothing will be done, like usual and we're going to be blowing hot air. I've been here since the beginning, and I've seen this before, we say we're going to do awesome and smutty things, but when it comes crunch time the goals fall apart like a house of cards. What's the point of these threads if no smut is being produced?
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>>6629484
We can also not discuss smut that has already been produced!
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>>6629484
If you too were here since the beginning, you would know it's also to inspire the creation of smut and discuss what's been made in the past, and of course to take requests. At any rate, we'll certainly be blowing hot air when naysayers like you try to discourage anyone because you're certain nothing will be done.

Hell, even as I'm writing this post I'm working on a /ss/ fic with a fertility goddess being knocked up by her new consort. Surely you're working on an awesome and smutty thing too, right? I mean, it would be terrible if all you planned to do was grumble and wait for others to do all of the work.
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>>6629512
I'm glad to see that that's still being written. I was looking forward to that.
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>>6629484
>What's the point of these threads if no smut is being produced?

If these threads are of no relevance to you, feel free to move along instead of hanging around making things worse by complaining.
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>>6629541
I'm not the guy who originally was writing that general premise, but as I have in the past I decided to take matters into my own hands to see that it got made.

The anon who helped me write Electric Sleep was happy to act as a co-writer for this too, and from there I'm planning out ideas for a sequel to it. I gotta say, I see why Mask and Monster did so much of their writing as a team now- it feels like I'm making three times as much progress as I would if I was doing it on my own, and having someone to catch the mistakes you overlook is a big plus too.
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Any progress being made on the anglermaid fic?
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Uh, why was the Anglermaid girl deleted?
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>>6629868
Too Western, I'd guess.
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>>6626291
Bump? Can you bump requests here?
If not, apologies for the error.
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>>6630061
You can bump whatever you like, but it's unlikely to matter much. Our drawfags have strange schedules in addition to living in very different time zones. They'll get to it whenever they get to it.
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>>6630077
Ok, cool. I'm not that familiar with the etiquette here and I don't want to step on any toes.
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>>6629176
I would

>>6629206
It works because slime

>>6629209
>Couldn't get away from making it seem like she was just masturbating.
Honestly?
That's not too bad considering things, just make sure to point out how it's stimulating her too

>>6629287
Same way it grips or moves itself, an exact explanation isn't needed, just that it can control it's surface tension to a degree

>>6629314
>but very few of them actually involve magic and psychic powers being used during sex?
I would love to see something like this, like using magic to conjure an extra hand or dick to help things along, using a feedback loop of telepathy to propel both partners to ever higher ecstasy, or direct stimulation of pleasure, ect

>>6629368
Your pic makes me want a giantess story

>>6629512
>Hell, even as I'm writing this post I'm working on a /ss/ fic with a fertility goddess being knocked up by her new consort
Really looking forward to that

>Surely you're working on an awesome and smutty thing too, right?
Gonna try writing that TF witch story I said I would this weekend, that or that healdo one I promised a femanon on /tg/ a few months back
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>>6630279
>Really looking forward to that
Should be finished this week. I'll try to get it done as fast as I can.

Gonna try writing that TF witch story I said I would this weekend, that or that healdo one I promised a femanon on /tg/ a few months back

Sounds good to me.
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I've never really written anything outside of papers and stories for school, but I really want to write smut for myself. Should it be fine just jumping into porn writing or should I practice more normal stories first? Also, if you want to, any additional tips for a starter would be appreciated.
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>>6630601
Don't know until you try. The OP post have some small guides that may be useful or do nothing for you. Could always try emulating authors you like until work out your own writing style. Reading what you wrote out loud can help to see if what you wrote sounds awkward too.
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>>6630601
I'd suggest reading a lot first. When you read, try to focus on what you think worked and what you would have done differently. I got into smut writing because I used to do a bunch of proofreading/editing for smut writers, but my entire background is in scientific literature. I have never written clean fiction in my entire life.

As far as other miscellaneous bits of advise go, I would suggest that it is very important to never lose confidence in yourself. Writing smut can be a bit embarrassing, but once you get a hang of it, it can be rather fun (and obviously arousing). It's going to be tough at first and you will second-guess yourself quite a bit. Stop that. Never pass up an opportunity to improve, but never stop because you think what you wrote was substandard. Keep writing. Finish a scene before going back. If you keep correcting things you don't like, you will never finish anything. Other than that, just follow basic good form for writing and editing your own work.

When you feel like you need help, feel free to post here. A lot of people post stories WiP, asking for assistance. Someone will likely be more-than-willing to help. I, for one, read every single story that comes through this thread and will make an effort to respond any time someone asks for feedback.
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>>6630601
Read. Read a lot, smut and non-smut, keeping an eye out on how it's written, what makes a story flow.
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>>6630610
>>6630627
>>6630645
Thank you all so much for the advice.
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>>6630627
>>6630627
Me too. Before /wst/ the only writing I ever did was for school assignments.
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>>6630656
Just don't go too far overboard asking people to look at WIPs, it only makes you look needy. Once or twice before its done is enough.
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One genre of story that I think we haven't much explored is the whole "defeated hero(ine)s" idea. You know what I mean, right? Adventurers slip up and then either meet sticky ends or longer, more drawn out (and much stickier, if you know what I mean) ends.

Its a fairly common fetish (I think), but there's precious little smutfiction about it.

There's actually a thread sorta about it on /tg/ right now, that could provide some inspiration.
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>>6631503
There's virtually nothing better than the "Party splits up and is defeated 1 by 1" genre.
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>>6631503
I always thought that it was rather cliche, but looking through the list it is definitely something that hasn't been done yet.
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>>6631561
Is it cliche if, let's face it, its more or less a realistic thing to happen in those circumstances?
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We could always consider using defeated hero(ine) as the topic for a smut-off. The more ideas we throw out, the more likely we are to pique the attention of contributors.
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>>6631582
That's also an idea. Anything to get things moving, really.
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>>6631582
The only problem with that idea is that I tend to work best with a co-writer, and the one I'm with at present isn't really into that sort of stuff as much as I am.

You never know though.
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>>6631648
Talk him into it or suggest a different topic. It's going to take a while to formalize everything anyway, considering how slow this board is.
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>>6631582
We already have a smut-off topic up here >>6629380


But that can be topic for the next smut-off.
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>>6631571
It's not about it being "natural" so much as it being something many of us perceive as being done so many times over that it simply holds no appeal.
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>>6631683
It's hard to tell if we have a consensus on the topic. There has not been any real discussion and I think that we might benefit from throwing out a few more ideas. That being said, if we have set an absolute prompt, I am fine with that as well.
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>>6631686
I find writing about beaten-to-death cliches to be rather fun. When the reader already knows the basic gist, it gives you a chance to play with the premise or even subvert it to comedic effect.
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>>6630601
I got my start writing greentext, I say just jump right in, though as you write keep an ear out for how your story sounds, see if you can visualize what's going on just from what you wrote and keep in mind stuff that's obvious to you because you thought of it may not be obvious to others

>>6631503
That's a good idea, I kinda want to try writing that in a bit, anyone got any ideas or should I just default to my preference of femdom, tease and denial, and vore?
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>>6631707
Well, we have to choose one and stick with it is all. Otherwise it'll come to nothing.

>>6631708
True. But after a while even the subversions get dull and predictable.
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>>6631719
>any ideas or should I just default to my preference of femdom, tease and denial, and vore?
Well, if you want my advice, then I'd say you should try something outside of what you're used to. So, perhaps something with, I don't know, public use (chained up so the minions can have a crack at the females one after the other), mindbreak (the evil alchemist needs test subjects to experiment on with his new potions), beast (the hell-hounds and the sorcerer's python familiar are getting restless) maybe a bit of impreg (the evil sorcerer and her cabal now have a chaste paladin on hand who perfectly fulfills the criteria to be the one who will carry the demonspawn).

Erm... the femdom idea sounds interesting, its not usually something I dabble in much myself, so perhaps you could leave that one in.

Food for thought.
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>>6631790
I'm fine with declaring the first chosen topic (creative uses of magic) as the official prompt. I was just hoping that we'd have a bit more back-and-forth on the matter as we have in the past, but no matter.

>>6631719
What I found works best is to start with kinks you already have, but mix in stuff you never considered. It's hard to write material you never had interest in and it's rather boring to just write the same topics and themes. If you're into femdom, start with that as the spine of your first story and add from there. For example, you could have a story with a d/s train where a dominatrix forces/convinces a male sub to dominate an even more submissive woman. In this manner, you can write what you know and like the best while avoiding stagnation and possibly expanding your own interests.

For a good reference, I would suggest looking into some of Moloch's stuff (speaking of which, does anyone know where he's been?). His primary fetish in almost every story is femdom, but he has written many interesting variations on it.
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>>6631931
Beats me. I'm guessing RL claimed him as it claimed so many of us in the past.
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>>6631931
>Last submission: july last year.

Yeah...
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>>6632297
Like I said, RL is the biggest bitch.
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I wanna write a story about a shota and a foxlady. Like, full on weeaboo. But like any true amateur, I lose steam, get distracted, and never do shit about it at all. It sucks, really, I'd love to write all sorts of pervy stuff. Since I have some slow days at uni now, I might do something in my free time. Too bad I'm always on 4chan while everybody else is in bed. Ah, well. I'll throw out some ideas here, some variations of the same stories but with a different guy. I'll check back later or tomorrow to see if you guys like the ideas. I'll greentext everything:

Story 1, version 1:
>Foxlady milf (pic related) going on vacation with her shota lover to generic isolated fantasy tropical paradise
>Shota has /d/ cock
>Shota eats aphrodisiac fruit
>Can't calm down
>Lots of sex and jizz
>Version 2 has same premise, but shota wears chastity

Story 1, version 3:
>Shota replaced by double-cock werewolf
>Can be femdom as well

Story 2, ver 1:
>Bestiality between fitness girl and her fantasy-based dog (aka the dog is real in that universe)
>Sunny California
>She sunbathes naked a lot
>Gets frisky with her dog
>Dog wants her
>They have hot sex
>Girl DP'd by dog?

Story 3:
>Gamer couple
>Girl loves having sex or giving him head during multiplayer games
>Tries to hold back her moans so team won't hear her
>Fails, of course
>Blissful orgasm
>After game, shower sex!

Story 4:
>Think Skyrim with a shit-ton of sexy mods and SAO style VR (aka you can feel the texture of walls, grass, cocks, etc.)
>That's it, actually
>I need to decide on what characters to use here
>Tentacles, slimes, dragons, beasts, bandits, demons and more

I'll gladly accept suggestions and ideas for the stories. I'll start writing tomorrow, will do my best to have something ready for the weekend for you guys to read. I'll post more ideas when I think of them.
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>>6632366
I post art made by a Jap that's relevant to these threads and it gets deleted. Guess I have to remember how shit the mods are here again.
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Got some more ideas. I masturbate too much. Too much hentai. But hentai is so good

Story 5:
>Sexy angel and werewolf dude share house
>Not lovers, but live together out of convenience
>Dude drinks some magical potion that does stuff to his body
>Can't cum as he desperately jerks off
>Angel comes home, finds him in his pathetic state
>Gives him a handjob, making him shoot his stuff all over himself
>Orders him to clean up with his mouth afterward
>Locks him in a chastity belt
>Trains him to be a pet
>Ejaculation ban for quite some time
>No orgasm, just prostate milking
>Humiliates him by taking on walks in public
>He actually enjoys it
Why werewolf? Because I'm a weakminded faggot who likes the idea of a strong beast being dominated by a woman. Or girl. Should I write something loli?

Story 6: Sci-fi time!
>Post-apo world
>Alien machines walk around in massive jungles capturing females
>Protag is some loli chick, like Cham-Cham if drawn by BLADE
>Is captured by robot, raped and stuffed
>Or tentacle plant in the ground
>Both involves tentacles and maybe drugs of some kind, maybe some oviposition as well

Don't worry, no guro to find in any of these stories. I really dislike guro. Well, that's all I can think of so far. Hate that I came late to the party. Back to hentai, I suppouse.
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>>6632659
All of those ideas seem viable except for number four, which is not yet a fully formed idea. I think that you can do a lot with the dog/werewolf and kitsune. There is quite a bit of potential taboo with a kitsune and a non-fox canid getting it on.
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>>6632659
Just wrote what you want to write. What do you need from us, an engraved invitation? We'll love it no matter what, I'm sure.
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Requesting a short story about a guardsman and a guardswoman doing [spoiler] a quicky in a leman russ [/spoiler] HERESY, because they are bored of sitting around and waiting for enemies to shoot.
Based on a pic I found duringna recent WH40k art dump on /tg/.
Would be much appreciated.
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Is this stuff for writefags only?
Apparently drawfags may be involved but I fail to see any instructions, forgive me if I'm wrong.
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>>6633156
"Stuff" is a ridiculously vague term. Would you mind rephrasing in such a way that anyone at all would understand you?
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>>6632659
I like story one version 2, though I don't like stupidly huge dicks but I love the idea of /ss/ femdom mixed with chastity/tease and denial play, the idea her teasing him until he's on his knees begging, pleading, and groveling before she'll even consider ridding him is delicious
[spoiler]And even then she'll probably make him get her off several times with his mouth before she even touches his chastity belt[/spoiler]

>>6632682
I love story 5 for the same reason as above, [spoiler]though I'd prefer werewolfshota[/spoiler], but lolidom is also delicious

Either way do what you wish, I like all the ideas except 2

[spoiler]/d/ has no spoilers[/spoiler]

>>6633156
No, drawfags can join in too
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I thought /wst/ was on /tg/. What happened?
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>>6633657
Shitposters shitposted really hard and a lot. Plus, the mods were too lazy to actually do anything and pretty much booted the threads out.
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>>6633670
"A lot" would be an understatement, actually. It resembled /b/ at its worst.
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>>6633785
That's very uncharacteristic for /tg/ what had happened? Did they have some problem with the thread, or did they start a fight because of something someone said? Basically, what happened?
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Who do I have to murder to get wallbutt erotica?

No seriously. Name a name.
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>>6633796
As far as anyone can tell, it was one asshole with a bee in his bonnet and a dynamic IP that let him bypass several months' worth of bans in seconds.
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>>6633796
Board police with a personal agenda. False flagging to get other generals trying to start fights with /wst/. It was really just a couple or even one person shitposting has hard as they could. Most of it was "how dare this exist on MY /tg/"
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>>6633803
>>6633804
Sad and pathetic. Which is just another day on 4chan., really.

But fret not. /d/ is always there, willing to provide asylum to deviants and save the day.
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>>6633817
We've been here for several months now. The funny part is how quickly everyone would move back to /tg/ if it was allowed.
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>>6633818
Call it a desire to go back to how the way things used to be, or simply being able to reach a larger audience, but either way it's little more than a fantasy by now.
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>>6633818
>The funny part is how quickly everyone would move back to /tg/ if it was allowed.

/d/. The unsung hero of 4chan.
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>>6633818
It's not even a question of what is allowed. The mods really had very little to do with our leaving. I don't think that a single one of us would choose /tg/ as it was in the weeks before our banishment over this. Things are a bit slower these days, but anything is better than the constant false flagging and shitposting.
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>>6633822
Lack of traffic is an issue.

>>6633831
Of course no one wants to go back to the shitposting fest, but people would chose /tg/ as it was before when the moderation actually did its job. More traffic, more people, more of a writefag 'culture' (if that makes sense),...
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>>6633842
Yeah, part of it is that /d/ is an image-centric board. We're practically clawing are way up into relevance here.
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I swear we have this same discussion every time we do one of these threads. Can't we stick a condensed explanation in the OP?
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>>6633800
guise pls
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>>6634227
I'll do it next thread.

>>6634240
Just be patient and use the google doc in the OP.
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>>6634227
>>6634267
Putting it in the OP will only encourage people to bring it up more, you know.
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>>6633670
So, all the "we're totes different from /erp/, fuck those guys" didn't stick?
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So, are you guys now the unofficial h-story general?

Let's say someone had some over-specific fetish (don't we all) that they could scarcely find content for, can they come to you for recommendations rather than requests? I swear, if there is some trick to finding stories I don't know what it is.
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>>6634276
Not even remotely related to what happened. It was along the lines of "NO LEWD ON TG EVER REEEEE!"

>>6634278
I suppose so. However, most of us don't bother with external archives, we prefer sticking to what we make ourselves.
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>>6634267
>Just be patient and use the google doc in the OP.
Huh?

Oh, I'm not making a request, I'm asking if you know of any (*any*) story featuring wallbutts.

My rate for murdering people is much lower than fulfilled requests.
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>>6634279
>However, most of us don't bother with external archives

Why not? Strong commitment to self-promotion?
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>>6634281
>>6634285
These threads are for making new content, not scouring the net for stories. All the stories featured are made "in house" and by the writefags that work here.
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>>6634279
>However, most of us don't bother with external archives
I do. I could lend a hand, been to a good few places.
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>>6634279
>I suppose so. However, most of us don't bother with external archives

Good enough for me. If say I had a fetish for semi-voluntary slavery (opt-in, not tricked or blackmailed, voluntary entry, but not opt-out, may regret or not) and I was pretty much alone with my fetish and no fetish-fuel, could anyone give me some directions?
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>>6634289
I don't mind if you feel like dropping off recommendations. They can always serve as inspiration at the very least.
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>>6634287
Wouldn't talking about external stories be helpful in getting people inspired to write their own?
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>>6634294
It would be. But it shouldn't be the main focus of the threads by any means.
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>>6634294
Yes and no. What works for one person wouldn't work for another. We're also most of all of us are from /tg/, so there's a more narrow category of what people look into. Also, like I said, these threads are mainly about making new stories and people requesting/proposing story ideas.
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>>6634291
Have you read "Story of O"?
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>>6634291
Oh. Also contracts with explicit details, terms and conditions, duration of servitude acceptable use and so on that are fulfilled to the t.

I know this is crazy weird, but my job got mixed up with my fetish in my head, and now I have a contract fetish. Just the description of a well-written contract gets me overflowing with excitement (and other things)

Pic somewhat related: data forms and ID tags are a very inadequate substitute for a good contract, but what can you do...
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>>6634298
>Yes and no. What works for one person wouldn't work for another.

Not necessarilly, but it might. Nothing communication of parameters can't solve.

>We're also most of all of us are from /tg/, so there's a more narrow category of what people look into

Well, you're not on /tg/ anymore. No reason you shouldn't branch out and include us /d/eviants, too in the party. We're fun at parties.
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>>6634304
That's not how it works. These threads have been on /d/ for several months and still hasn't changed. The writers are going to keep writing the fetishes/content they like. Their tastes aren't going to change just because we're no longer on /tg/. You can request, but don't expect a delivery. If you really want something done, write it yourself.
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>>6634313
That kind of is how it works. When you access new material, they tend to rub off on you. Slowly, but surely, you develop new fetishes. Then before you know it, you're one of us.

Several months are not much on /d/. Things are slow here, especially compared to the rest of 4chan. Everything moves at its own pace. Let's say you are 10 active people. In a year there will be 5 of us added to your mix. That's how things change even if the initial 10 users don't (which they probably will).

> If you really want something done, write it yourself.

That's exactly part of the process by which /wst/ will be /d/fied.

Don't fight it, accept your destiny and so on and so on.

[pseudospoilers] Seriously, though, the difference between /tg/ and /d/ is overstated. You don't recoil from xenos and tentacles, you're half the way here.[/pseudospoilers]
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>>6634319
Oh cut the pretentious bullshit. No one from these threads are foreign to /d/. Funny thing about xeno stuff is it's now a "western" fetish and not allowed on /d/ anymore, got booted to /aco/. Those threads were pretty much some of the only reasons to come here. With /aco/ and /trash/ being made /d/ is /d/eader than ever.
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>>6634329
>Oh cut the pretentious bullshit

You're probably not reading my posts as they are meant to be read. I'm being coy, not trying to make any profound statement.

>Funny thing about xeno stuff is it's now a "western" fetish and not allowed on /d/ anymore

There is no consistent application of the no western rule. I do think it was a horrible mistake making /aco/ and making it mutually exclusive with /d/ to boot (and not following the /vr/ formula) and it did hurt /d/. Technically speaking xeno is allowed here. The thread will just be liable to arbitrary deletions by our mentally deficient janitors trying to decide what is and isn't western based on no clearly identifiable criteria whatsoever. This double handicap is a problem with every thread on /d/ right now (and peculiarly not with any thread on /aco/, where hentai pictures are routinely posted, but what can you do. you can only start missing moot's capacity to ignore bad ideas).
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>>6634342
You should not pay attention to them. They are just bitter because of the way they were driven out of /tg/ and they're taking it out on /d/ because it's not their home.

Seriously check the 4plebs archive for the last threads. It's depressing how much damage that guy did for no reason. It was just senseless shitposting. He has a very particular way of posting, too. He's very easilly identifiable.
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Moving away from us wallowing in the past, I bring to you new smut! Special thanks to Anonymouse again, we make a good team.

Fertility Rites
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1VHUecci7DGE3IMhpvidbTT-zPUyrMgpyljqXwGYe5lo/edit
Tags: boyxgoddess, /ss/, lactation, vaginal, oral (female), vanilla, impregnation
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>>6634348
>>6634346
You posted this twice. And it was the second post that was missing the picture.

Are you some sort of time traveller?
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>>6634344
Quoted the wrong person, perchance?
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>>6634353
I don't think so? I quoted the guy responding to the bitter guy from /tg/
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>>6634352
Nah, I was worried that the pic might get the thread nuked, so he decided to delete and then repost it.
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>>6634348
>Angling himself so that the head of his shaft rubbed against the inside of her mons
>inside of her mons
>The outside portion of the vagina

The word you are looking for would be the cervix. That's the portion of the vagina that would be hit by the head of the penis during the fucking. The story is good, a bit too purple prose for my taste, but it's good. Just make sure you look at anatomy though so you don't make that mons error.
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>>6634356
Uh, that guy is bitter about the /aco/-/d/ split...
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>>6634360
No, I was trying to say that his dick was rubbing against her g-spot without using the exact words. Cervix is pretty unlikely.
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You guys aren't attracting enough attention because your OP sucks (excepting the image).

I wouldn't have noticed you either if I didn't know you from when I lurked /tg/.

You need to keep your guides and smut list at the OP, welcome people to the smut thread, explain it's about discussing and creating h-stories, then follow up with your request guidelines. Consider renaming it partially, since it's very unlikely any of your threads are going to die within the three days of a weekend in /d/.

And for smut's sake, stop being so pessimistic and stop sending people away and restricting the purpose of the thread. We're already very few as it is, here. You don't have the privilege of trying to recreate /tg/'s environment, which is incomparably faster than us, on /d/.

Seriously. I've been paying attention to this thread throughout the week and there is a near-palpable sense of defeat and resignation going on. What happened to /tg/ gets shit done? You can build a new community if you take this seriously.

I remember /d/gg flickering in and out of life for a semester. We didn't think it could be viable as a steady thread, and look at how active it is now, even getting something nice done. I remember /hgg/ being ~4 people desperately trying to keep the thread alive, and now we have two /hgg/s that are reasonably fast.

Stop being so attached to the past, and look to the future with some optimism. All the wallowing makes me want to punch my screen.
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>>6634372
As one of the smutfags who's actually gotten some work done this week, I agree with this guy.
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>>6634372
So, you want this to become just a rec thread?
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>>6634367
Nigga, these are the mons, they are literally the exterior of the vagina. I'll say it said again, you need to know your anatomy before you make mistakes like that.

>I was trying to say that his dick was rubbing against her g-spot without using the exact words.
Then you should have just said that, and talked about more details in the actual penetrative sex part, you left it very vague and hurried in that portion of the story.
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>>6634379
Where does he say anything about that?
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>>6634372
>>6634384
The OP of this thread used an old copypaste from the /tg/ days, the actual OP we use is here: >>6624973

But all the other points are ones I've spoken up about myself on many occasions. Some people just don't want to adapt, I suppose.

However, if you're suggesting we begin recommending fics from outside sources at the expense of trying to make our own and encouraging others to do the same, then I will have to point out that it would weaken the motivation to request fics from our own writers.

Plus, the fact of the matter is that while theoretically we're open to all genres of fapfics, in practice most of us prefer to stick to sci-fi and fantasy settings since we know them best.

That being said, if other people want to break out of that mold, I'm rooting for them. Maybe one day we can expand into a /d/ fiction general, but for now I'm content with what we've got and wish the excessively negative people would share that sentiment.
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>>6634379
Huh? No?

I think the problem with your outlook is that you don't appreciate how few people there are on /d/. This can't become "just" any kind of thread, because there are literally not enough people to dominate the discussion either way. You are thinking of problems of high-traffic boards. Here the enemy is idleness. You want to have a discussion going instead of just waiting for someone to provide the content that you want. You want there to be some action, so that people are inspired to lurk the thread and contribute to it because they see that there is something going on in it, instead of just some people hopelessly trying to keep a thread with no purpose alive by bumping it once a day. It's a circle, first new people take this seriously and keep lurking it, then you get requests, then you get new smut while there are people that will actually read it, and then you get critiques. Not sending people away is like oiling a machine in low-traffic boards, because it helps build a community.

If you don't build a community your problem isn't that the thread will fall off the board, your problem is that no one noticing this thread exists will think it's worth participating in it, so you won't get either new smut or people reading smut or even people requesting smut.

Someone reads the thread and he thinks, oh this is just the place where some dissapointed people lurk and talk about how nothing will get done and how nicer it was back in the old days. Well, that doesn't concern them, so what reason do they have to not just get on with their business?
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>>6634384
The part about stopping restricting the purpose of the thread. See higher in the thread what broadening is about.
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>>6634379
That guy's probably wanting the /wst/ threads to not be dead like they have been. They have become a wallowing pit of people pining for the "good ol' days on /tg/" and we have barely been making any content, which is horrible. We can be better than this.
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>>6634392
I thought he meant not keeping the genres confined to just /tg/sci-fi and fantasy settings.
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>>6634396
That'd be the surest way to get the few writefags that remain to quit.
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>>6634397
Why?
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>>6634397
Why? What would cause them to quit, the fact some people are making different requests and they get squicked by that? Really, /wst/ writers are too scared to "Go There" in terms of exploring different sexualities, kinks, and strange sex organs?
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>>6634390
Just be explicit about this being a thread where we make and discuss h-stories. People have short attention spans. That's why all generals have a welcome to x, here we do this and this, part at the top instead of obscure inside references to fantastic creatures. New people need to be able to immediately identify the purpose of the thread.

Other than that, if you want people to request smut from you guys, be explicit. Say we love requests, requests are what get us going. Then follow up with the guidelines. It's better to not explicitly deny requests you don't like, just ignore them. It's my view that it's counter-productive to get people dissapointed. Someone else may pick up their request. Yes, the existing writers may be more into fantasy/scifi, but there is no need to stress that. It only dissapoints people that would otherwise participate, both requesters and potential new writers. They get the message that this isn't the place for them, even if it might have grown to accomodate them had they stayed. If their request doesn't get picked up, tough luck. No reason to draw attention to it. Just let things play out, instead of stressing temporary limitations.

Basically just wash all the negativity off.

>That being said, if other people want to break out of that mold, I'm rooting for them. Maybe one day we can expand into a /d/ fiction general, but for now I'm content with what we've got and wish the excessively negative people would share that sentiment.

Yes! That's exactly what I'm trying to say. Don't restrict your horizons. By this is not meant that any particular author has to take up something they dislike, only that we need to have a mind towards expanding until we're viable. Otherwise, RL will eat one writer, then another, then this thread is done for.
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>>6634398
>>6634401
Because /wst/ writers want to write about /tg/-related things, as obvious as it sounds.

Now if you want to turn this into a general /d/ writethread go ahead, but make sure you actually have people wanting to contribute to that.
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>>6634406
I never gave a monkey's about /wst/ when it was on /tg/, because nearly all the stuff that you lot talked about was of no interest to me. It was only when it came here that I became a regular, because I thought that now I would be able to talk about things that I understood.
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>>6634403
And to add something to this.

There is no need to take requests literally. Someone might make a request that is not your cup of tea, but you can get an idea that is your cup of tea from that. At the very least someone may incorporate a particular idea (say some predicament or whatever) into a setting they want to write about.
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>>6634403
On that note, it's pointless to keep restricting ourselves to making threads on weekends. We're a general now for all respects and purposes, and we may as well embrace that fact.

So, perhaps we should rechristen ourselves as Erotic Fiction General (/efg/ if you will.)

>>6634406
Nobody is telling them to stop writing /tg/-related things, least of all me. But I fail to see how we could possibly be worse off by giving people more reasons to contribute. Just look at >>6634410
as an example of how we're limiting ourselves.
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>>6634412
>So, perhaps we should rechristen ourselves as Erotic Fiction General (/efg/ if you will.)

I absolutely agree with this, but perhaps we should keep a "formerly known as /wst/" reference to our noble past.
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>>6634412
I also agree with >>6634414.

Times have changed. We should too.
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>>6634414
A fair compromise. It would show up as something like what's in the name field now, as I see it. If it's too clunky I can just add the second part in the OP.
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>>6634414
As harsh as it sounds, it might be better not to.

A clean break, a new start. Any who wants to join is free to, and those who don't can stay in the past.
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>>6634420
I figure it's there more to ensure the old guard doesn't get lost trying to figure out where the hell we went that still want to be a part of this.
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>>6634420
We could have the subtitle for a few threads, so that people know what we're talking about, and then ditch it after a thread or two.
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Oh, a final note. OP guy, at the end of the OP, add a reminder that people who can should post pictures when posting. It's very useful to keep the mods away from text-based generals.
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>>6634422
Precisely my thought. We want everyone on board.
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>>6634424
I certainly will. Plus, I'll note that all OC is welcomed, since drawfags are just as important as writefags here.
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>>6634406
>general /d/ writethread go ahead, but make sure you actually have people wanting to contribute to that.
Then what is the point of these threads now? Are we just going to stay here on /d/ and do nothing or are we gonna adapt to the new environment and flourish. In case you forgot, we are on /d/, which means /d/ is going to be a little more favored here.

>Thinking i'm just a /d/eviant and not a fa/tg/uy too
I've been here since our expulsion to /d/ and I thought we could make it work here too because we can work on the fly, but now it seems many people are stuck in this wallowing, and rather than try to grow, we've stayed stagnant and have refused to do anything but whine and groan about us being kicked out of /tg/.

If we won't write or draw and would rather do nothing, then what's the point of the threads continuing?
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>>6634422
>>6634426
Come on, people aren't that stupid and referring /wst/ will only encourage the bitters to whine about how better it was before.
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>>6634432
They'll never stop whining, but that doesn't mean we can't drown them out or bring in new talent in that won't be hung up on the "old days".

At the least, it should be there for the first three or four threads- that should be enough for all the old guard who want to be a part of this to know about the name change.

>people aren't that stupid
You would be surprised.
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>>6634429
The point of these threads was to try to keep /wst/ going. As you say yourself, it didn't work since most contributors either bailed or are embittered and wallowing in the past. Opening the thread up to draw in new blood is necessary, even if this means toning down the /tg/ focus.
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>>6634439
He's actually agreeing with you, as am I.

Hell, I've been with /wst/ since its inception and I think this is the best way to keep us going now.
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>>6634455
>>6634439
>>6634429
Then we're agreed. Onwards to a new day.
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I made our first thread on /d/ and have been one of the more persistent voices in pushing for adaptation. At the time, I made the decision to subtitle our thread with /wst/ instead of using it as the headline. I believe it important to keep a portion of our identity - both for our own sake and the chance of finding other displaced contributors - but we must also recognize that it's a really horrible name for use on /d/. Every thread here is a smut thread, and we are no longer active only on weekends. I chose scifi/fantasy in hopes that we would be able to establish ourselves here with that justification. Whatever you wish to call it, this thread has always been dedicated to producing new content in whatever form. Even in our days on /tg/, many stories were tenuously board-appropriate at best. Before we had an established community on this board, we needed a board-appropriate title and theme to test the waters. There was no scifi/fantasy thread, or anything particularly close. This is the one and only reason why I chose that designation. By taking that name, we were able to set up our first few threads while we waited to see what kind of community we have.

In our time since coming here, we have recovered a number of our old contributors, in addition to attracting a few new writers. While I, and many others, will continue to produce fantastical smut, there should be no obligation to do so. I can say with confidence, having spoken to many of our remaining writers, that a broadening of theme will not discourage them from producing content.

As such, I do agree with prior proposals that we should seek a new name and identity so that we may make our purpose on this board clear: we make smut. Whether written, drawn, or even woven into Mongolian tapestries, our purpose is to create new material, and anything that aids us in this endeavor is good for the thread. Embracing new ideas is not betraying our past, but preserving our future.
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>>6634487
Stick to smut, man, grandiloquent discourses are not your thing.
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>>6634487
A grandiose soliloquy is such a /tg/ thing to do.

But, yeah, we agree. We'll see what will come of it.
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>>6634498
>>6634516
One must practice his BBEG speeches somehow. It's hard to find people who will give you the chance in real life.
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>>6634471
Addendum, I'd suggest publicizing the Flockmod/IRC to get people in touch.

And poke the drawfags to post what they draw on the flock in the thread and not only on their tumblrs; under an imgur link if necessary. We need all the content we can get.
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>>6634530
>And poke the drawfags to post what they draw on the flock in the thread and not only on their tumblrs; under an imgur link if necessary

An imgur link wouldn't be necessary for drawfag stuff. /d/ has a sufficiently active drawthread and it never attracted the ire of the modteam.
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>>6634533
Yeah, it's the old /tg/ paranoia speaking. Just urge them to post their drawings in the thread directly.
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>>6634521
You should consider playing some theatre.
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>>6634540
What reason is there not to do so?
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>>6634723
I for one generally don't consider my drawings /d/ material and won't post them here. Others might feel similarly.
Of course anyone's free to post what they see fit.
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>>6634767
As long as they're lewd, they're good. Don't be shy.
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>One story and a shit load of bitching
Well honestly I wish you'd all just shut up and post pics/stories/ideas but looking over the conversations from the past few days I just want to say a few points

1. I really don't like the idea of this becoming a rec thread, if someone is looking for something point them in the right direction sure, but try to keep it mostly OC/talking about requests ideas

2. I'm mostly against a name change, it's easy to search for the threads with the current name and we're still getting people trickling in from /tg/ who had no idea about the move

2a. if we do change names, I'd say go with "scifi/fantasy smut" like we did for a while, it's easy to search and gives folks from /tg/ a pretty good idea what to look for and these threads have some continuity

2b. /d/ is a slow moving board, I usually don't check these threads on the weekdays as what little activity they get is mostly on the weekends, as such I had no idea about this whole conversation until now, and it'll be easy to lose other anons who do the same in a name change. Hell, come Saturday if using the search in the cataloge didn't get me /wst/ or scifi/fantasy smut I'd probably have made a new thread without checking for anything else

3. I wish you'd all just shut up and post pics/stories/ideas or at least had the decency to post them while bitching
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>>6634888
By this point, everyone from /tg/ who wanted to find us has already done so by now, and we're only crippling ourselves further still by limiting what we do and do not accept.

How about just calling it "Written Smut Thread"? It's simple, to the point, and it lets us use our old acronym again. Alright with you?


> I wish you'd all just shut up and post pics/stories/ideas or at least had the decency to post them while bitching

Likewise, or better yet I wish the bitter fucks could just leave and go be sullen somewhere else. They're arguably doing more damage than the shitposters ever could.
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>>6634912
>How about just calling it "Written Smut Thread"? It's simple, to the point, and it lets us use our old acronym again. Alright with you?
That sounds good
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>>6634931
I'll just note in the OP that drawfags are still allowed and encouraged as well.
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>>6634912
>>6634888
I personally like the idea of changing the name to /efg/. It seems more appropriate. written smut thread sounds weird, too.

However we can keep, as I initially argued, a reference to /wst/ in the OP, which means it will still appear in catalog and archive searches.
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>>6635004
So /efg/ (aka /wst/?)
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>>6635093
Pretty much. What the other guy said above seems ideal to me

>>6634419
>/efg/- Erotic Fiction General (Formerly /wst/)
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>>6635109
Good enough for me. So for the OP, we use this:

>This is the go-to place to discuss erotic fiction of all types, from the fap-and-go fics to porn with a substantial plot. Drawfags also welcome as well- illustrated stories are always the best ones!

>We thrive on criticism and feedback, so if you feel strongly about a given work, don't be afraid to speak your mind about it. It'll help everyone in the long run. Requests are always welcome as well, there's nothing like a good request to get the creative juices flowing.

>links to the list, request doc, etc.
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>>6635134
This looks good.
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>>6635093
I'd prefer >>6634931's suggestion
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>>6635155
It sounds kind of awkward though, and might give the wrong message to drawfags.
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>>6635157
Yeah, exactly. Saying the new General is being called "Written Smut Thread" sounds just that, written smut and written smut only. /efg/- Erotic Fiction General sounds like you want all erotic fiction, meaning drawn and written lewds.
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>>6634348
Like it but I've been up too long and started to fall asleep while reading it, will do a review tomorrow when I get the chance, probably in the new thread
You'll probably also want to repost it then too

>>6635093
>>6635109
I'm gonna disagree, I'm thirding >>6634912 and >>6634931

>>6635157
That's a good point but I still don't like it
Most of my problem is how sudden the change is
As a few other people have pointed out /d/ is a slow board, and this was only talked about over the course of a few hours, while I'd hate to fill another thread with more arguing, I don't think any change should be made yet, or if there is a change it's small enough that searching for /wst/ or smut will still bring them to the general

Maybe keep the name /wst/ for the next couple of threads but make a strawpoll or bring it up in the flock mod and make a note in the OP about wanting to discus it there?
If this topic had gotten discussed over several days I'd feel more comfortable but this feels too sudden

Either way the thread will probably die while I'm asleep, so I'll probably have to find out what is determined in the next one, but I'm gonna stick with my point that it's happening too fast for some place as slow as /d/
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>>6635194
It's not sudden at all if we flat-out say we're the same as they were before. We need to change, plain and simple. All that has to be done is to say it used to be called /wst/ in the subject field.

Flockmod already knows, and they're fine with it.
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>>6634888
>One story and a shit load of bitching

Spot on, but those are but the symptoms. The problem right now is that the threads have failed their intended purpose of being a /wst/ haven. Most of the old guard of providers either didn't follow or bailed in the meantime, leaving a crawling sludge behind full of bitching.

If we want to have a thread with more contributions, then we need more people actually contributing. Limiting it to the weekend to let people work/cool down would be the cherry on top, but /d/ is simply too slow for that.
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>>6635194
Dropping the name /wst/ altogether would be the best thing. That's basically what attract the bitter fags, they come here expecting to find what they had on /tg/ and bitch when it's not the case.
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>>6635134
Just perfect. Remember to add a request that people post pictures to ward off the mods, though
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>>6635198
They have followed, but there's only so much they and myself can make. It's an uphill battle for us, and we need that old blood. Change is going to be an absolute necessity for us to survive, and we've spent too long pretending that wouldn't be the case. That doesn't mean becoming a rec thread, it just means we'll have more to write about than just /tg/ matters.

Think of it this way- when I'm gone who on earth is going to keep tagging and adding shit to the list like I have?
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>>6635197
Okay, that should be good then

>>6635203
No, I strongly disagree with that, we will just lose more people and then there will be even more bitching
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>>6635203
I'm the guy that initially proposed the name change, I'd also like to support not removing the /wst/ reference alltogether. It's overkill and might result in losing stragglers that were left behind.

A change of name with a reference that we used to be /wst/, either in the subject or post field accomplishes both goals of achieving some degree of change towards the more inclusive and also letting people from /wst/ find this thread.

As for the bitter people, they'll have to get on with the times. If more extreme measures are required, we can make further changes in the future.
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>>6635134
>>6635206
Besides these, might I also suggest that we start the OP with an edition and end it with a link to the previous thread, according to general tradition?

For private archiving purposes.
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>>6635229
That would be fine.
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>>6635229
>>6635233
The /d/ archive is sort of down right now. Funny part is, a single thread can last for a week or more.
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By the way, this is something to keep in mind for later, but how about rallying our forces? Both the slavery general and the gentle femdom general have writerfags writerfagging. After some time passes we could invite them to hang around, too.
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>>6635216
>They have followed

I disagree. Due respect to you archiving everything, and I'm glad to see finding a co-writer helped you pick up speed, but what we need are people that deliver reliably and more often. People like Mask, Monster, Moloch, Inker; and there are pretty few (if any) that remain beside Inker.
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>>6635216
>and we need that old blood

What old blood? They left months ago and those that remain, like ND, has more or less made it known they hate it here and whine about the fact we aren't on /tg/ anymore.

/wst/ is dead and we need to accept that and move on, keeping that old moniker isn't doing anything anymore, we last longer than weekends and when /wst/ is brought up whining comes out of the woodwork. We need to completely revamp or something, but make sure everyone knows that we still allow Sci-Fi and Fantasy content, as well as let other people that may request or even make content know we aren't adverse to new things as well.
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>>6635263
You have a point there. I know Belgi and CB still frequent the flock at least, as does Cuteanon. So the old guard is still here, even if they're busy with their own shit.

>>6635263
>new blood.

Pardon my typo.

/wst/ may be dead in that it's not what it used to be, but the people who contributed for it are still around, even if they don't say much. I know I swore to stick with this until either it died off completely or until circumstances made it impossible for me to do so.
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>>6635243
Why wait? They can come whenever they please?/
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>>6634372
Fucking THIS
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>>6633818
>We've been here for several months now. The funny part is how quickly everyone would move back to /tg/ if it was allowed.
>>6633842
>Of course no one wants to go back to the shitposting fest, but people would chose /tg/ as it was before when the moderation actually did its job. More traffic, more people, more of a writefag 'culture' (if that makes sense),...
Indeed, and it's not like /tg/ is any less lewd without us...

>>6634279
>Not even remotely related to what happened. It was along the lines of "NO LEWD ON TG EVER REEEEE!"
Indeed...

>>6634363
>Uh, that guy is bitter about the /aco/-/d/ split...
Who isn't?

>>6634372
>You need to keep your guides and smut list at the OP
Uh, we don't do that because auto filters target threads with web-addresses in the OP...

>>6634412
>On that note, it's pointless to keep restricting ourselves to making threads on weekends. We're a general now for all respects and purposes, and we may as well embrace that fact.
Actually, this is what's killing the thread...
Being up all the time means there's no rush to complete content to post, meaning no one feels a need to work on content.
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>>6635134
So are drawfags getting exiled or what? Since this is apparently all about fiction and stories now.
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>>6635512
No, drawfags have been a part of /wst/ the whole time
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>>6635514
I'm aware, give that I followed /wst/ for much of its life on /tg/. So don't you think the new OP should reflect that? You aren't going to get as much of the 'new blood' it's supposed to attract if you present yourself an exclusively writefagging thread.
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>>6635541
The issue is on /tg/, we never had explain this. Everyone just knew from being on /tg/ long enough.
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>>6635497
You have a point for once, but the thread is too slow to restrict it to the weekend.

If we ever get back to the point where we can fill a thread over the course of 2-3 days, then it might be a good idea to reinstate that system; but we need to get there first.
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>>6635562
That's not going to happen, because it would require unfucking /d/. The /aco/ split/mod idiocy has permanently made /d/ a very slow board, even more than usual.
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I think we should shelve the name change for the time being, or at least have it discussed over a weekend as opposed to a single weekday, we're not on /tg/ any more a day is not long enough to get everyone's opinion, though we probably should find someplace better to talk about it then in thread, bitching just pisses people off

Honestly I prefer we go to something like sci-fi/fantasy smut thread rather than erotic fiction general, it includes both written and drawn smut and keep the connection to the old threads
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>>6635589
Where would we go to discuss it while making sure everyone interested can participate
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>>6635599
That is a good point, flockmod is the most only thing that comes to mind, maybe like put a note in the next OP and/or one in a post a bit after it (I confess to normally not even looking at the OP when I come to these threads)
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>>6635589
I kinda agree with you. Erotic fiction general leave aside both the /tg/ content and the drawfags, which are a large part of the content of theses threads.
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>>6635616
Trouble with flockmod (or any real-time chat program) is timezones. Getting anyone on it at the same time would be challenging.
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>>6635673
>anyone
EVERYone, of course.
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>>6635589
I think we should test the waters, now. If things are not working, we can always revert.

We've stayed like this for months, now, and it's not working.

>Honestly I prefer we go to something like sci-fi/fantasy smut thread rather than erotic fiction general, it includes both written and drawn smut and keep the connection to the old threads

We'll keep /wst/ on the name of the thread to keep a connection to the old threads. We have drawthreads on /d/ so it's unlikely we'll attract drawfags here, but the idea is to mention they're welcome in the OP. Finally, we explicitly want to avoid naming it a scifi/fantasy smut thread, in order to also attract new writerfags that don't want to write about scifi and fantasy.
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>>6635497
>Uh, we don't do that because auto filters target threads with web-addresses in the OP...

No other general has this problem.

>Being up all the time means there's no rush to complete content to post

This seems like an excuse, to me. If you want to work on something you can work on it and get back on us during the weekend. I don't see what obstructs you.
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>>6635645
No it does not. Why would someone assume that broadening things makes /tg/ stuff less welcome?
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Oh, and one other thing- I won't be able to add shit to the list for the moment because 1d4chan is sending up an error about a redirect loop. I apologize for the inconvenience and will be sure to add everything when it starts cooperating again.
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>>6635765
An inevitable consequence of broadening things.

>/tg/ contents fail to guarner attention
>open up to other things
>other things start getting discussed
>/tg/ content eventually get completely drowned out and disappears
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>>6635794
>original content makers/requesters/anons leave due to no longer being about the things they like
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>>6635794
Well, how else do you suggest garnering attention? I'm making my shit as fast as I can, but I'm just one guy.

Perhaps next OP we should add a strawpoll.
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>>6635794
This seems like fear of abandonment, to me.

At the moment, we're not actually discussing anything. On the contrary, attracting more people is likely to send more attention towards /tg/ content already listed or produced. It creates an audience for every story posted here which currently just isn't around.
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>>6635801
I'm not against opening the thread up, I'm aware it is a necessity at this point since keeping it to a /tg/ niche doesn't fly.

I am however answering the question as to where the concerns are coming from.
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My point of view is that by now, we have talked about this as much as we can and we have a reached a pretty good degree of concensus.

Now is the time to act, instead of pulling back and not getting anything done. If we keep talking about it, we're only going to get demoralized as we keep imagining things that might go wrong.

Let's get through with it, and revert back if something isn't going right.

To be honest, I don't personally expect much of a change to begin with, at all. Maybe in the coming months we'll get more people on board, which will be good, but that's all you can expect on a low traffic board. I don't know if anyone of you expects to wake up and find everything to be qualitatively different. It's just something that needs to be done and forestalling isn't helping.
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>>6635814
Agreed. We have nothing to lose now and everything to gain.
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>>6635839
Except people not noticing the new thread because it's different
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>>6636034
Which is why it will have /wst/ as a subtitle. Stop assuming all our regulars are idiots.
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