Are you trying to say you hate him? I get the hate for Sins of the past and one more day, but neither of those were completely his fault. Other than those two stories, his run is the definitive Spider-man run for me personally. I get other people not liking it because of the totem stuff though.
>>79830540 >It was too brutal/cruel His aunt who was basically his mother was shot with a bullet that was meant for him, and almost brain-dead. He was absolutely justified in kicking the shit out of all those people, and it was completely in character.
>>79830427 Tell me about it. It's why MJ and Peter will always be the perfect pairing for me. >>79830452 Slott used to write some pretty good stuff (I mean, Antivenom was a fantastic idea), starting from Superior, his writing has gone to shit. He still has moments, but I really can't stand him. He writes MJ so badly, and what the hell was that crazy town banana pants garbage?
>>79830760 Completely different context, go read the story. Peter was slapping that man's shit before he saw his face and realized just how hard he fucked up by letting him escape earlier. Plus, he was fucking 15.
>>79830452 >Slotts run is closer to what he is all about Slott turned Peter into a complete joke that is more like a shitty parody than any of Peter's past characterizations. In fact, Slott cannot into any kind of characterization, all his characters are unbelievably dull, his dialogue is awful and character moments are mostly non-existent.
Slott's run is all the depth of Panini UK Spider-Man comics with none of the entertainment value.
>>79830800 That's fair. Those were pretty great. Loved the Rhino gauntlet story. But I still like JMS' stories better. It went from very big threats like Morlun to having Peter just help some kids from the school he worked at.
>>79830905 I remember him not giving a single fuck about Harry while he was in sick bed because of Gwen. He was almost going to kill Kraven in KLH. He is the best character in fiction in my opinion. Literally What If: Elliot Rodger Got Superpowers.
Only boyscout I don't care about killing someone. I wish he did that more often.
>>79830964 Someone should post that edit. ''I also fucked a midget.''
>>79831058 becaue he is a realistic and relatable boy scout. He is a good person, but he has his breaking point. And it's a breaking point we all can relate to. It's incredibly difficult to push him to his breaking point, and he has the strenght to come back, but it make him a dynamic and multifaceted character, rather than most other boy scout characters who are stuck as symbolic representations and thus have only one facet to ttheir character and if they stray from it they become evil. See batman, superman, captain amerca to a cerain extent. Spiderman is actually interesting because being a boy scout is not a narrative cage defining and trapping his character, but his personality.
>>79831694 >boy scout characters who are stuck as symbolic representations and thus have only one facet to ttheir character and if they stray from it they become evil
It's not that they'll "become evil" it's that they'll stop being what they are. Which is: perfect role models. That's what Superman and Cap (most the time) are. Like Jesus. They aren't mean to be relatable or realistic, but examples to follow. Ideals to strive for. Spiderman, on the other hand, is someone who strives towards that ideal. He's a realistic portrayal of an actual good, heroic person. The possibility of failure is an integral part of his character. Spiderman tries to be a good person, Cap and Supes embody the perfect ideal of a good person.
Batman isn't really a boy scout at all. He is largely defined by the fact that he isn't a boy scout. He's scary, violent. Dark. If he didn't have a rule against killing, he wouldn't be a hero. He needs to have that line he will not cross. Plus, most of his villains are normal, quite easily killed, people, if he did kill them he'd run out.
>>79834988 no. joker is a caricature of a character. if a guy goes crazy mad at the people who killed a person he loved and murders them horribly he doesn't turn into a cackling maniacal serial killer. And everyone would get angry enough to want to kill the people who killed our loved ones. the whole dynamic of batman and joker i idiotic and autistic
>>79833491 >That's what Superman and Cap (most the time) are. Like Jesus. They aren't mean to be relatable or realistic, but examples to follow. Ideals to strive for. that's why they are shit. >aren't mean to be relatable or realistic, but examples to follow. those 2 things are contradictory.An example to follow is someone who has the same weaknesses as us, th same doubts as us, the same faults as us, and can rise above them. Perfect idealistic representations aren't for inspiration, they are for reassurance for infantilistic minds. >Batman isn't really a boy scout at all. He's scary, violent. Dark. it's all teathrics. behind that he's the most boy scout of all, with his absurd dualistic mentality so that if you were to kill someone in a rage because he had murdered and raped your parents and children then you'll be just as bad as them and you can never do good again.
tl:dr batman superman captain america are for those who don't want to grow up and wish they had someone who always knows the right thing to do to guide them and take control.
>>79830427 Yeah, JMS really nailed the idea that Spider-Man could succeed. He got the girl, he got the respect of other heroes around him, but the stakes were still high. I understand the appeal in writing the character with the melodramatic "Parker luck" that Slott and so many others write him with, but JMS wasn't afraid to write Peter with goals to aspire to and dreams to live.
Fuck, the Peter, MJ, and Aunt May dynamic was perfect. Spider-Man finally grew up and achieved something.
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