When will people stop generalizing that starting with S3, Gumball became a completely unlikable, loud, meme-spouting and remorseless jerk.
While I do believe he did become flanderized somewhat during the third season, it didn't become noticable until around the second half of it (The Saint, The Society etc.) and didn't become permanent until the fourth season.
Even with this change in character, Gumball has shown to still have some levels of wit (The Hug, The Pest) and kindness (The Advice, The Traitor, The Nemesis, The Pest, The Upgrade etc.) left in him.
So before you go rambling about how Gumball's character has been ruined, remember that it's nowhere near as bad as you might think.
aka, Ben wants Gumball to be happy for once, aka, another weak excuse. Even he acknowledged Penny is bland and boring and need characterization to become interesting, Penny's current role is limiting her chance because her Mary Sue trait has to balance out Gumball's jerkass attitude.
Similar things apply to other minor characters, and are more successful than Gumball's and Nicole's situation.
Tina may be a big jerk&bully in season 1, but becomes better and less intimidating in later episodes.
Masami used to be a rich bitch character, but changes drastically in "the gift".
Bobert has troubles to comprehend emotions, but do it better in later episodes.
Banana Joe was very annoying, but becomes more likable than plain annoying.
Carrie could be rude at times, but turns out to be one of the most dynamic and least one dimensional character in the show.
Don't tell me you take people who call Gumball a jerk for not being a betamax like Dipper or Finn seriously
They expect a character that reacts to everything by worrying and crying instead of fucking shit up right back.
Dude, this discussion really is like another "Batman vs Goku" argument. The outcomes are almost always depend on writers' decisions. All the arguments are obsolete because different writers have different kind of shows to handle. Thus, the results in other shows obviously will be very different.
>When people stop generalizing Gumball becomes a utter jerk
When Gumball and Penny break up. That is all, because no one will give a crap to care about Gumball anymore, the audience will only care about their heartbroken waifu.
pertaining to Gumballs family
Gumballs mother is a angry asshole with a temper problem but you figure out the reason is that she apparently had a less than stellar childhood and in the limit it shows that she can overcome her inner demons
aniese is a complete know it all in the beginning but she begins to be humbled as throughout the episodes nothing makes sense and elmoore constantly defies all logic. we also learn that she hates being to smart as she cant have fun with gumball and darwin and people expect alot from her.
Darwin learns to share Gumball and not be so jealous.
Gumball learns......... nothing
gumball doesnt learn to not meddle in others affairs. he doesnt learn to respect others life choices. he doesnt learn anything. He always lucks out and manages to solve to problems that HE creates and still for some reason is well liked by his classmates and penny. For fucks sake he literally created a villian on purpose just because.
The true hero of Elmoore should be Larry.
I think about 70% of people in the world are Larry's and god knows its a awful life.
someone really needs to give Larry a warm fuzzy hug after all those torments he has been.
To be honest, other students characters such as Carrie and Banana Joe, in term of personalities (since their appearances and impressions are above average and stable), can become some good main characters materials. Instead, we are gonna have the annoying duo that ruin others' business for most of time.
I would like it better if every episode pertained to a certain classmate.
Like what is Tinas daily life at home like. shes a ginat T-Rex who lives in a junkyard ffs.
What about Carrie. How much business does she have to do in the underworld and what customs does she follow. how could Carrie ever die and if she did where would she go?
If Amazing Worlf of Gumball started having episodes about the side characters Id try watching it again.
>she apparently had a less than stellar childhood
Behavioral genetics disagrees. You have a terrible childhood and then become a terrible person because your parents were like you, not the other way around.
Some cameos and talks in S2, and no talking roles beside roar and grunt in S3 and S4.
Sound like some wonderful ideas mate. I think the show might be better if the show is this way. Also, I once read a fanficition on how Carrie borns and how she struggles as a half ghost.
Funny and clever. Also, he was right.
Inconsistent. Sometimes he is fine. Sometimes he is completely unlikable, loud, meme-spouting and remorseless jerk
S2 > S1 > S3-S4
She did have a barely audible speaking role in The Gift, but that's it really.
Also, Gumball being an annoying shit is funny when done right
By that logic, Rick would be totally unlikable as well. He has destroyed entire civilizations and universes while showing little to no remorse in his actions. So why would Rick get get a free pass on his actions while Gumball doesn't. Don't say it's because Rick has cleverness and charm (Gumball has it too.)
I too agree some side characters need more time in the spotlight but don't you remember how episodes that featured them took up about half of S2.
While he can be completely unlikable in some S3-S4 episodes, Gumball acts pretty much identically to his S2 self in other episodes.
What makes Rick funny and Gumball not funny. They both are very snarky and seem to be for the most part selfish minus a few moments of selflessness. The only thing Rick has going for him above Gumball is his intellegence.
>What makes Rick funny and Gumball not funny
Its a fucking joke, right? Rick is a magnificent bastard. He has power, intelligence and charm. Characters like him are admired. And S3-S4 Gumball? He is an annoying retard, a unlikable stalker and a loser in every aspect.
it seems the Watterson family, aka, the supposedly main characters of the show, all have became very unlikable due to inconsistent development and characterizations. That are sad, really, in this aspect, the side characters have better potentials.
Although the Wattersons aren't exactly truly likable characters, they still have enough redeemable values to them and unique traits that separate the family members from each other that they remain somewhat relatable and tolerable unlike for example the TTG Titans.
The Origins was a example of good writing.
>positive interactions between characters
>not forced jokes
>not stupid ending
First episode I ever saw was some meme parody best-of
Sadly, in an attempt to use extremist cynicism to seem like I have a personality, I made an asshole of myself
It's pretty sad considering it was my cousin, whom I enjoy spending time with, who showed me this (hopefully I used "whom" right)
>yfw Louie and Frankie are better characters than Richard
Richard is truly the worst character
>Louie will never be a permanent member of the household
We was a pretty cool grandpa.
Maybe the children audience like Richard more, since Nicole is really similar to nagging mother type character, which the children audience usually dislike.
Louie, the one of few likable father figure in the show.