>>79771987 I know I was let-down. It felt like MARVEL kept the secret alive for literally as long as possible, and in the end nothing could have lived up to the big reveal they wanted. Just about every fucking person who's ever seen the Thor movies or read a Thor comic assumed it was Jane... I know I did. But when they finally showed their cards it left me with a bad taste in my mouth because I wanted so desperately for MARVEL to actually do something All-New and All-Different. I still don't know what Nick said to Thor in the first place, but I can guarantee that just like the Thor movies and this comic, it will be a disappointment.
>>79772497 Yo, that reminds me, didn't Captain Mar-Vell die of cancer? Wasn't there like fucking squat they could do about it? Can they even cure her cancer and if so, why did Mar-Vell bit the bullet? Just questions, I honestly have no clue...
>>79771987 I was at the storytime when they revealed her identity in last ANAD issue in front of falcon cap. People laughed like crazy at that cancerous piece of shit. And by cancer, we are not talking about the disease.
>>79772959 >Thor becomes a strawman-y misogynist like they did to Odin >His mother teaches him a lesson of humility by turning him into a woman like that one Johnny Bravo episode >Thor learns an important lesson and is changed back
That's also what I thought would happen, and as much as it sounds godawful, it would still be less preachy than what we got.
>>79772350 THIS Thor's fans would have been ok with Bill filling the role for a bit and would have been interesting seeing him interact with the ANAD Avengers, but Marvel wanted the tumblr audience and now we are all stuck with Whor
>>79773365 Bill gets a hammer, Thundersrike gets a Mjolnir-like mace, Deadpool was once given a hammer just to SPITE Thor. Even Loki has produced Mjolnir-like hammers to give to Storm. Fuck, both HYDRA and Stark/Richards have made technological facsimiles of the Mjolnir that work just like the real deal.
>>79773461 Yes, Odinson is worthy again. However, we don't know where Odinson is.
Most likely, the next time Odinson shows up, he'll be using Ultimate Mjolnir, since Doom slapped a worthiness enchantment on it. That way Jane can keep the regular hammer while Thor gets to keep the axe-wielding look.
Also the Deadpool 2099 issue showed a flashback (from 2099, so a flashforward from now) that had Thor Odinson wielding a hammer that looked a lot like Ultimate Mjolnir.
Is this a fucking joke by Marvel? Are they just fucking with us at this point?
Captain America is a dindu who made it out of Harlem. Captain Britain is a female muslim teen fighting for diversity. Now Thor is a cancer ridden, walking corpse who refuses treatment because somebody somewhere is having a bad life.
What's next? Is Iron-man going to be replaced by a sex negative trans woman with AIDS, who refuses any type of treatment because LGBT rights?
>>79773621 >Captain Britain is a female muslim teen fighting for diversity. It's amazing seeing someone complain about Captain Britain despite having never read a single issue of Captain Britain in their life.
You know, of all the female options possible for a FemThor, why did they pick Jane? She hasn't been part of Thor's story for a very long time now. Sif, Enchantress, Thor Girl, would have all been better options for a female Thor.
>>79773673 The comic you're referring to is a one-shot Age of Ultron tie-in from an alt-universe that's been wiped out. And even if that weren't the case, the entire premise of Captain Britain is that they serve under the Captain Britain Corps, an omniversal organization of Captain Britains, so your complaint that one of the Captain Britains happens to be a muslim woman is completely asine considering there's thousands of Captain Britains of all different races and genders. That's like complaining that they "replaced Green Lantern!" just because they made another Green Lantern.
This is all stuff you would know if you had read even a single issue of any Captain Britain comic in the past 30 years. But of course you don't actually care about these characters, you just like to bitch about m-muh persecution and OUTRAGE!
Seriously, why do you insist on shitposting on /co/ when you clearly don't give a fuck about comics in the first place?
Your SJW cancer is destroying Marvel. The selection of a cancer ridden Jane to be lady Thor couldn't be more precise. All these reboots to retcon diversity quotas into Marvel is best represented as a cancer.
>>79773673 A 30 something female Muslim doctor became Captain Britain in the Age of Ultron timeline. Brian Braddock is the Captain Britain of the MU. And fuck you, Faiza Hussain is cool. If anything you should be pissed at Hickman ignoring them for a giant chunk of his multiversal threat plot leading up to Secret Wars, then belatedly giving them a few panels where they're completely incompetent before all dying in service of a crossover event that shit the bed.
>>79773836 >Captain Britain is a female muslim teen fighting for diversity It helps when your "truth" is actually true and not just a /pol/ meme. Literally the only people who EVER bring this up are retarded /pol/lacks because someone was posting out of context panels from the comic on /pol/ after it came out. No actual /co/mrade is stupid enough to both think this and not see why its a retarded complain to have in the first place.
>>79773871 >being mad at things that actually happen in comics as opposed to just bitching about clickbait headlines, tumblr posts, and out of context panels Fuck off. Only losers and faggots read comics. Every second you waste reading comics is a second you could be spending fighting the SJW menace and actually making the world a better place.
>>79773780 That's what happens when you reboot but not really. We just had an 8 month time skip where major events happened off panel. Marvel tried to have their cake and eat it to. So we just get left with an unsatisfying mess where an event that was supposed to change everything didn't really change much.
>>79773295 In The Avengers: EMH they actually state that they used the last of the available material to create Beta Ray Bill's weapon. Fucking funny because that was years ago for a cartoon series that got cancelled and replaced with a super shittier version yes I am still mad.
>>79774127 What is an Asgardian lifespan? Thousands of years? And what is the duration of an Asgrdian pregnancy? Probably somewhat longer than a human pregnancy? So it's not unreasonable for Jane to have been impregnated by Thor more than a year ago and still be in the "I don't look pregnant" first trimester.
>>79774127 They could just pull something out of their ass about Asgardian gestation periods being longer. I mean it's cape comics, the writers aren't exactly above just making shit up on the spot and running with it.
>>79774273 >actually reading comics as opposed to just getting OUTRAGED! over out of context panels makes you an SJW Seriously, what is it about comics that make people feel like they're entitled to having an opinion on them despite having zero interest in them? Are there any other hobbies that have this problem? Does /v/ regularly have threads get derailed by people who have never played a video game in their life? Is /sp/ filled with people that have never watched a sporting event in their life?
No? Then why is it that /co/ is filled with people who have never read a comic in their life that spend all day getting fucking ass ravaged over things that happened in comics that they never read.
>>79774559 >She's been single for a while now She was in a relationship throughout Thor: God of Thunder and didn't break up with her boyfriend until the last issue.
I mean, it's totally possible that they fucked in the short period of time between Thor finding out she's single again and Original Sin, but even Aaron wouldn't pull that out of his ass without at least hinting that they fucked.
Because pushing narratives to promote their political agendas is way more important to them than reading comics. It's just OK when they do it because it's their political agenda, as opposed to the one they hate.
>>79773514 I would walk around starting random slow claps in every single group situation for the rest of my life if they had the balls to make it one big joke and literally have Fury say "You need to check your privilege, Odinson".
It was dumb and insane as fuck. "Jane" not being a god in disguise, at least godhood-tier like Odinson (who they threw away before SW like a worn out knackers yard donkey bitch btw thanks very much Marvel), meant she is a total total total fucking fake Thor. Of course, the PC crowd absorbed it like so much chewing gum of the mind, like it didn't matter. Pfffffh. Fake.
>>79775552 What's your favorite comic run? Who are your favorite writers and artists? What's on your pull list? What's the name of your LCS? If someone asked you for your top 5 must-read comics, what would they be?
The thing that pisses me off about that the most is the idea that Thor has to be aware of what makes him unworthy in order to lose Mjolnir. In theory, Thor could commit mass genocide, have a telepath wipe his memory, and still wield Mjolnir.
He should have lost his worthiness as soon as the act was committed.
>>79775552 >Comics have gone to shit; and SJWs are at the helm Why do you care? It's not like you read comics in the first place. You wouldn't even be on this board if it weren't for the SJWs being "at the helm."
Sam Wilson has been Captain America's partner since before you were born. He's even donned the costume and title of Captain America in the past, albeit briefly.
There's a lot of shit you can say about Falcon becoming Captain America, such as the fact that the writing is fucking garbage-tier or that he's less of a character and more of a political mouthpiece, or that he just hasn't been doing a very good job of carrying on the Captain America legacy, or not-so-subtle shit like pic related, but the IDEA of Sam taking up the mantle is not ridiculous in the slightest. It's just that the execution of it has been miserably awful.
>>79775675 Jesus, you can't even name a single comic you like. Again, if you don't give a fuck about comics, why are you here? If you've never read a comic in your life, why are you here? If you're not interested in talking about comics unless it involves bitching about SJWs then why are you ehre?
These aren't questions only a "die hard fan" can answer. These are questions that anyone that's been reading comics for more than a few months should be able to answer off the top of their head.
>>79775675 >can't name a single comic run >can't name a single comic writer >can't name a single comic artist >doesn't know what a pull list is >doesn't know where to buy comics wew lad. Maybe the /tv/ threads would be more your speed.
>>79775670 Why do I care that the few aspects I've always loved about the Marvel universe, even as a passerby enthusiast, are being torn apart to appeal to a new audience on an ideological level? Why wouldn't I care?
Do I make it a point to read new issues as soon as they come out? No. Am I that guy who only reads the highly acclaimed story archs? Yes. Does that make my opinions less valid? Maybe to you it does, but don't tell me that I don't care. There's a lot of bullshit that I don't care about, and I wouldn't bother complaining about it because I truly don't care.
I care about my childhood heroes. That's exactly what these heroes were to me; they were my childhood heroes and they're being stripped down to appease a crowd of PC zombies; and fuck what any type of fan has to say about it.
The dogshit writing, and the looser than my stool plot devices used to implement these retcons are just a garnish on the shit sandwich.
The kicker is that if all these retcons were part of a multiverse story instead of retcons, I'd be right on board. I've always appreciated alternate storylines for big main characters. But what's being done to these comics isn't just alternate stories for the sake of telling the story. It's an outright purge of the old to bring in something new and hip. It's a fucking travesty.
>>79772797 "Well I tried using all of Asgard's resources to make Midgard better while I was Lord of Asgard. Your governments declared war, and destroyed Asgard." There's a guy storytiming "The Reigning" by the way.
>>79775994 I don't hate Marvel, at the end of the day they're a business. I'm extremely disappointed with them and the direction they've chosen; needless to say, It's turned me off of any of their newest comics. The Marvel cinema has been strong; although Age of Ultron was a very sloppy story; but that has more to do with Joss Wheden's obsession with snarky characters than anything else.
But yes, at this point it's hard not to hate SJWs. A few years ago, they were a decent audience to mock and deride for their delicate sensibilities, and their overall incapability to cope with the real world. And the irony of a group of people who constantly berate other groups for not being empathetic enough, while ignoring the feelings of those who they're chastising, carried a delicious kind of richness.
Now their insanity is trying to creep into every hobby or interest that could possibly be held by anyone. While most groups are fed up with these fuckers, and have told them to fuck off, comics was ground zero. I just want to see it recover. I just want the hamfisted diversity to end. I just want the dogshit progressive writing to stop.
>>79775835 >Am I that guy who only reads the highly acclaimed story archs? Yes. Such as? This isn't a hard question. This isn't a trick question. You claim to care about comics yet can't name a single comic.
You're on a board for discussing comics, so let's discuss some comics. Because I sure as fuck would rather talk about comics than SJWs, wouldn't you?
I'm not saying anything because it's irrelevant to the discussion. My comic knowledge cred doesn't play into any point I'm trying to make. I'm not going to fall into the blatant ad hominem trap being set up in front of me.
>>79775443 This is a world in which deities are actual, provable, observable beings. I'm not even talking about gray area "gods" like the Asgardians but cosmic entities that literally create worlds, generate life from nothing, and decide the fundamental workings of the universe.
What women would've been a better choice for Thor? Valkyrie was getting pushed in Avengers, banged Flash did some lesbo stuff and was forgotten. Sif would've been good. Honestly even Jane would've been fine if she wasn't so horribly written and now she's been tained forever.
>>79776212 >you just have to proofread everything you say before you say it instead of being comfortable and speaking freely
That sounds awful. I don't mind being tactful when it's appropriate. I wouldn't go around talking about being in a great health while visiting someone with a terminal illness. The problem with SJWs is that they're only PC for the sake of proving they're PC. It's like street cred to them, and it's obnoxious and exhausting.
Wouldn't using nanites to force one's brain to be incapable of believing in anything greater than oneself be an absolutely terrible idea that would probably lead to suicidal narcissism / confidence? There are a lot of things in the universe greater than humans that aren't gods.
>>79776257 >name a comic >blatant ad hominem trap being set up in front of me. I think /pol/ might legitimately be rotting your brain. If you have zero interest in talking about comics and only want to talk about bullshit political drama, then take it to tumblr or /pol/.
You want to know what I hate about SJWs? They pretend to care about comics as an excuse to push their political agendas, and then when you try and have an honest, innocent discussion about the hobby you love with them, they get all offended because how DARE you try and talk about comics with someone that claims to care about comics. That is EXACTLY what you're doing here.
I'm not trying to judge your tastes. I promise not to call you a pleb or whatever so as to avoid hurting your delicate little feelings. I just want to talk about comics with you. Is that so wrong?
I'm serious. I'm sorry if I hurt your feelings, I really am. But this is a comic board, and if you outright refuse to talk about comics on it, then I just don't understand why you're here.
Jane Foster, who has cancer and refuses to get treatment for it from any of her superhero pals by using the same excuse Barbara Gordon did when she was paralyzed ("if you can't cure/fix EVERYONE, then I don't want your damn science!") and is slowly dying because every time she transforms into "Thor" her cancer treatments are undone.
>>79776622 >>79776660 Eh? How did she even get to the hammer? She looked pretty damn weak the last I saw her. And what would her motivation for doing so even be? She was also all about acceptance and all of that in regards to her condition the last I saw her.
>and is slowly dying because every time she transforms into "Thor" her cancer treatments are undone. Oh come on that's even worse.
>>79776702 that part doesn't bug me, cancer treatement is litterly "Lets pump this poison into you so it kills the cancer." the poison getting purged from her system when she transforms is the least shitty thing about fem thor
>>79776401 >it's just digging for info on my personal interests And that's a bad thing because...? Look man, if you don't read comics, it's cool. Maybe give me an idea of what kind of genres or topics you like and I could give you some recommendations on some you should check out. Then when you're done reading them, you could make a thread about it here and we could talk about the comic together.
Doesn't that sound nice? Wouldn't reading a comic and talking about it with your peers be more entertaining and a better use of your time than all this ranting and raving about nebulous shit you're only tangentially aware of?
You and me, anon. Together we can make /co/ great again. But to do that, we need to stop spending all day every day doing everything in our power to avoid talking about comics (and I mean actual comics, not "political agendas" or clickbait articles or out of context panels you saw posted on some other board once) and actually get back to what really matters. Coming together as a community to share our love for the medium of sequential art.
I'm not trying to trick you. I'm being as absolutely earnest as I can within the constraints of an anonymous imageboard.
I love comics books and I just want to share that with people that feel the same way, not people that pretend to care just so they can push an agenda. Once upon a time, that's what /co/ was about and I genuinely believe that some day we can get back to that.
/co/ was love, once. It can be love again, but I need your help. A community isn't built on one person and it's not built on outsiders.
>>79776740 No the treatments being undone makes sense. But killing herself at an increased rate by transforming over and over is silly. Just stop the treatments if you're going to be like that. If you want to die go for assisted suicide at the hospital.
And what ever made her think she would even do a god job wielding Thor's power? Surely someone more capable would have been able to do even more good. Or was she so certain that she was worthy that she travelled all the way to Mjolnir by herself. Lifting up the hammer, with the certainty that no one else more suitable would also be worthy?
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Vvhy ist zhis zo hard for jou all to uunderstand???
>>79775671 Or how about the fact that a guy who uses wings to fly probably shouldn't strap a heavy-ass metal disk on one of his arms, especially not a big metal disk with established aerodynamic properties.
>>79776398 >Wouldn't using nanites to force one's brain to be incapable of believing in anything greater than oneself be an absolutely terrible idea that would probably lead to suicidal narcissism / confidence? There are a lot of things in the universe greater than humans that aren't gods. I was more responding to the one that was all "we have proven the maths for no Gods." in a universe where there ARE Gods and this is coming from a Kree who fucking KNOW there are Gods.
>>79776842 Right: Chemo/Radiation therapy is fucking BRUTAL. It's the chems/rads that make you feel sick, that make your hair fall out, not the cancer itself... so why does she keep going back for the treatment? It makes no goddamn sense.
>>79777225 It was always an issue with magic, Dr. DOOM once got dragged down to hell because he got snippy with the demons that had granted him magic powers. And then there's the selling of souls to do magic, Doc Strange, Nightcrawler, (MAYBE Spiderman-?-), Juggernaut, Colossus' little sister whatshername, Baron Mordo, Ghost Rider's alter ego whatshisface... they all end up in a hot place after death.
>>79777859 What, you think the Kree teach their toddlers the equation that proves that the Earthling God named Jesus Christ doesn't exist?
No, he says their equation proves the nonexistence of ANY DEITIES, but that's fucking wrong, and they would KNOW its wrong.
I'm an atheist, though generally I don't give enough shits about the subject to really call myself that, but there was just no good reason for the writer to include this shit other than to jack off about how euphoric he is.
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