>Spider Gwen >Gwenpool I don't get it? Is Gwen Stacy

Gwenpool isn't Gwen Stacy

>>79763329
Gwenpool isn't Gwen Stacy, everyone just thought she was because she has Gwen in her name

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Care for some Gwen-Hulk, OP?

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>tfw no Green Gwen to fight Spider-Gwen
>tfw no Iron Gwen
>tfw no Gwentastic Four
>tfw no Captain Gwen-Luc Picard of the U.Gwen.Gwen Enterprise

>>79763348
>>79763370
Wtf she IS literally just Gwen from another universe except her last name is Poole instead of Stacy

Yeah...I really don't know why they decided to call her Gwen. Unless there's a twist plot reason... it's very unnecessary and confusing.

>>79763431
so she's not Gwen Stacy

>>79763431
She's just a chick named Gwen not Gwen Stacy.

>>79763431
She's just a girl named Gwen, she's not an alternate Gwen Stacy

>>79763423
>no gwenvengers vs the x-gwen

>>79763423
You know, Spidergwen is a pretty good book when Gwen's barely in it

>>79763444
They probably just wanted to keep the bandwagon that was created from the variant

>>79763482
It should be a book about Captain Stacy to be honest.

To be more accurate, her character design is a reimagined Gwen Stacy, but in the story itself her name is Gwen Poole.

>>79763444
>confusing
If you're retarded.

>>79763329
One of the biggest memes in comics

She based herself on Deadpool and Spider-Gwen so that she would be popular and not die

>>79763423
That's all gonna happen during the Gwenihlation Wave cross over. After the events of Gwen Island Agwengers hunt down all the Infinity Gwens and put them in the Infinity Gwentlet so they can use it to undo the tragedies of Gwenosha.

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>>79763513
Not...really?

she doesn't even have a headband

>>79763444
Because the original variant cover was Gwen. The writing team was just smart enough to take that in a different direction.

Also I wouldn't be surprised if she deliberately ripped off SpiderGwen to try and make herself a more popular character and avoid dying.

>>79763464
>>79763474
>>79763475
>Looks like Gwen with pink tips
>Based off of one of the Gwen variants
>No different from any other Gwen except last name
>It's not Gwen Stacy

???

What's with the "sudden" surge of Gwens?

>>79763572
Spider-Gwen really took off

>>79763572
It's the Age of Gwenocalypse

>>79763567
Which part are you confused about?

>>79763567
Most comic girls have sameface, looks the same doesn't mean anything

>No different from any other Gwen except last name

but she is, why lie like this just because you were wrong?

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>>79763329

Gwen is a meme character.

>>79763567
>No different from any other Gwen except last name
Except for her name, history and personality yeah.

>>79763348
>>79763370
So? Her entire character is still a result of Spider Gwen

>>79763639
>Iron Gwen
>Gwen Fury
>Captain Amerigwen
>The Gwen Widow
>Hawkgwen
>Gwulk
>Gwor
>The Mighty Agwengers

>>79763673
>get proven wrong
>pretend like it doesn't matter

>>79763673
So? In her comics she's got nothing in common with Gwen Stacy aside from being a blond chick named Gwen.

>>79763686
It's The Ingwenable Hulk.

>>79763572
Marvel has to cash in on whatever's popular.
People liked Gwen Stacy in ASM2 so they made Spider-Gwen. People liked Spider-Gwen('s costume) so much they made covers with Gwen dressed as others. People liked Gwenpool('s costume) so they made a Gwenpool comic.

It's all about the money...despite the fact I think they're hardly making any off of this mess.
>>79763639
I normally hate anytime somebody uses meme as an adjective but it almost works for Gwen.

>>79763705
It doesn't matter. She's litterally based off of fucking Gwen Stacy. How is that hard to grasp?

>>79763763

>>79763707

So is Gwenpool forced to constantly act upbeat and quirky? Like, she knows she has plot armor. As long as she's in a fun comic she'll be okay because it'll stay light-hearted. But the moment she starts getting upset or dramatic, for example if began reflecting on the fact that she's trapped in a different universe with no way home, her comic takes a turn to a more serious route. And as soon as her comic gets more serious, it means she can be made to suffer. And she's got to realize that eventually some sort of drama will be thrown her way.

Gwenpool is by the Dr. McNinja writer. He doesn't take it seriously and likely making fun of it. He's the guy when people were pumping out Punisher Kills The Marvel Universe and Deadpool Kills the Marvel Universe flipped it and made Longshot SAVES The Marvel Universe.

>>79763801
wow you quoted a post. Gwenpool isn't Gwen Stacy but is based off of her

>>79763827
>is based off of her
Yes, in the most cosmetically insignificant way possible. I just hope you understand that they're different characters.

So, I stopped reading Spider Man when Superior started coming out. What do I need to check out? Is Superior good? Is the new Amazing good? Is Spider Gwen good?

Thanks boys

>>79763809
Basically yes. She knows that as long as she has an interesting, popular comic, she won't get randomly killed off by editorial.

>>79763329
Okay, OP. I had the exact same confusion like a month ago.

Originally, Gwenpool was just a gag. A joke on Spider-Gwen, and implicitly an alternate universe Gwen Stacy.

But at some point, they decided to actually make the character, where they dropped the AU Gwen Stacy angle entirely and made Gwen Poole- an almost literal self-insert implicitly from our world or another universe that also publishes the same Marvel comics.

>>79763861
Holy shit I just said that

>>79763886
no to all questions

>>79763886
>Is Superior good?
Pretty meh. You're better off reading anything else superior showed up in cause he was written better in those than in his main book.

>Is the new Amazing good?
Step-up from Spider-verse which was hot garbage. Decent and probably interesting but I dropped it quickly.

>Is Spider Gwen good?
Unfortunately no.

>>79763886
The answer to all of your questions is no.

>>79763915
Well in the 616 universe they also publish marvel comics.
In fact, Gwenpool didn't have to become a hero. She could have just kept reading comics all day.

>>79763957
Except the comics in 616 aren't like the ones from wherever Gwen is from

>>79763983
>they just publish everyone's secret identities in comics in their own universe

>>79763983
Comics in the 616 are literally the same comics we read in our universe. And since Gwen knows a ton of knowledge about the Marvel heroes they must be the same ones too.

>>79764012
>literally the same comics we read in our universe
are you retarded

>>79764012
That makes no fucking sense.

>>79764012
nigga what

>>79764025
>>79764028
So neither of you have read She-hulk then?

>>79763957
>self-insert
>audience-insert
whatever.

Who wouldn't want to enter the fantastic world of the comics that you read for entertainment?
That's the point of a self-insert character, to represent the reader within the story. Sometimes is nuanced and subtle, and other times it's a supposedly all-knowing fan who wants to meet and interact with their fiction.

If that isn't you, then that's fine too. It isn't a universal idea.

>>79764012
>Fucking Marvel comics is at it again! Publishing all of my deepest secrets and internal monologues for all of my enemies to pick up at their local comic shop! Where are they getting this info?!

>>79764038
I confess that I have not.

>>79763760
>Marvel has to cash in on whatever's popular.

Which is exactly why we literally had nearly 200 Skottie Young "Baby Variant" covers over the past few years. Marvel sees something as a moderately popular novelty and exploits it to artificially boost their sales with variant order requirements from retailers.

>>79763939
That's unfortunate, I'll just read old shit then. I'll probably check Spider Gwen since she's best girl

Thanks mate

>>79764038
You mean Memepool 1.0?

>>79764070
>>79764037
>>79764028
>>79764025
>>79764097
In She-hulk vol 1 it is revealed that Marvel comics is a comic book publisher in the Marvel universe and not only do they publish comics identical to the ones published in our universe but they can be used as evidence in a court of law.

>>79764012
Here's the difference, Anon.
In Earth-616, the Spider-Man comics don't say Peter Parker is Spider-Man, or that Jane Foster is the new Thor.

>>79764162
They might, Marvel isn't as big in the Marvel universe so maybe people just don't pay attention.

>>79764012
No, Marvel Comics in the 616 are inconsistent, either tie-in that cannot possibly represent the actual events because of printing and editorial alone, or outright propaganda.

And even so, the concept that 'Marvel comics in the 616 are the same as in our world' actually undermines the comics anyway. The assumed appeal of reading a comic, or any story, is that (unless there are some genre things or intentional choices being made by the creators) we get a unique an comprehensive perspective on the story and characters, only mediated by the writers, artists, and obviously editorial. But in the 616, those stories and perspectives would be significantly limited, because instead of just writers, artists, and editorial, we would the huge gaps in access to information, any kind of super-hero journalism, and whether these parties and individuals involved (some of which are supposed to be enemy combatants and highly secret government organizations) would be forthcoming or even honest about the details.

616 Marvel is pretty much white-washed propaganda, and if our Marvel is supposed to publish the SAME comics, we're being cheated more than we already are with the "Smilin' Stan was doing it before the Disney buyout" shilling and bland creative teams.

>>79764133
>She-hulk Vol 1

This is the problem with shared universes. In early She-hulk that was their sense of humor. The writers should be allowed to make gags like that without it having to be taken literally and retroactively applied to like every Marvel comic since the Fantastic Four took off.

>>79764349
No, even Slott's She-Hulk had that as a plot point.

>>79764133
Yes, because in the Marvel universe, the Marvel comics are the actual exploits of the superheroes, true stories. Not made up shit.

They made reference to Fantastic Four licensing their stories out to Marvel in the past.

>>79764369
>Slott

I don't care anymore.
It's an inconsistent gag with the character.


I'm surprised at how many people on /co/ hate Grant Morrison when it is such a prevalent idea that comics continuity is the same as if you were reading a real newspaper from 616.

>>79763999
I think that was the case in the Bill and Ted comics, when they got stuck in a dimension of superheroes.
Nobody could remember anyone's backstories or even who is currently a villain or hero, characters died one page and reappeared the next, and they read their own ongoings to figure out what to do next.

>>79764012
Wrong, that has only been the case in gag comics like She-Hulk. We've actually had a mini showing what Earth-616 comics look like, outside of the pre-Fantastic Four stuff which we know are in-universe comics based on Earth-616 events.

http://marvel.wikia.com/wiki/Earth-20007

>>79763563

>big boots

>no pants

But why tho?

>>79766524
It's the lady's fetish?

>>79766572
>>79766524

It's my fetish

>>79766991
But are you that lady? Then we can go full circle with this

>>79763423
It's Gween Gwoblin

>>79763329
...does Cho know that Gwenpool, you know, is not Gwen Stacy?

>>79763567
You're pretty dumb.

>>79768030

Nobody knows that because nobody read her stories, they only saw her on covers and solicits and assumed

>>79763646
>>79763612
>>79763611
she's literally a parody of spider-gwen

like, that's the entire point of her existence

>>79768088
She is designed around Gwen Stacy even if she isn't Gwen Stacy herself.

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>>79763329
She is an infection spreading throughout the mutliverse. All will become Gwen in the end.

>>79768115
Yes, and? Her being a parody of Spider-gwen doesn't make her Gwen Stacy.

>>79768030
At that point she didn't have any stories. All he ha to work with was the one variant cover and the fact that she was going to become a character.

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>>79768128

>Hulk Gwen will never give you tender, powerful snoo snoo

>>79764133
Fucking [s]Bendis[/s] Bryne.

>>79768132
OP asked
>I don't get it? Is Gwen Stacy a meme or something?

not if they were the same person. if Gwenpool is a parody, that literally puts her in meme territory. stop being an autistic sperglord.

>>79768128

Is it like an STD? You kiss a Gwen you turn into a Gwen?

>>79768202
I kissed a Gwen and I liked it.

"Gwen" is a really, really ugly name. "Gwendolyn" is even worse.

>>79768198
>stop being an autistic sperglord
>>>/facebook/

>>79768281
>>>/faggot/

The current generation of Marvel creators grew up around the time Gwen Stacy died. They keep toying with bringing her back, and since that got support from various groups of fans for various reasons we could get mad at each other about for hours, they have AU Gwens show up.

I think its fucking lame but whatever, its a free country.

>>79768261
>Not liking Welsh names

Bet you don't like Rhiannon either.

>>79768128
Good maybe it will finally kill cape comics

>>79768214
Quiet, Gwen. Gwen is talking.

>>79763558
>Infinity Gwentlet
>Gwenosha

My fucking Gwens are in orbit

>>79763423
Gwin Gwan Gwoon