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>Mutant and proud!
>Remains in human form for most of her time onscreen
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>>79750098
Yeah it's stupid. Most of what happens in those movies is.
Thankfully, Skullshitl is here now.
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Jennifer Lawrence is lazy as fuck.
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it's probably something like 2 hours of make up everyday, and periodic retouches before every shot.

and it's probably uncomfortable.
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>>79750268
Tough shit, she gets paid millions for it.

If other actors can do it, so can she.
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>>79750268
See >>79750177
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>>79750268
Romjin got serious health issues playing Mystique because of the latex/makeup, and it's also the reason Cummings wouldn't return as Nightcrawler.
Supposedly the newer version isn't as bad though.

Still, if Fox wasn't cheap as fuck they'd make a version that also doesn't look worse than X1.
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>>79750268
And then theres the Hobbit. Were actors and extras spent hours upon hours in make up and then just got CGI'd anyway
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>>79750668
You mean just extras, right?
Because among the actors who had lines it was mostly just fake pointy ears.
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>>79750098
>Remains in human form for most of her time onscreen


What is the mutant character Mystique for $400, Alex?
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>>79750268
Wow how noble.
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>>79750780
Are you serious?
In comics, cartoons or earlier X-Men movies, she's blue like 90% of the time, and when she isn't it's not just to look like flesh-colored Mystique.
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>>79750098

>"Women don't get paid enough in Hollywood! Equal pay for equal work!"

>"No I won't fully do my job and you can't make me!"

Hmmm... maybe that's why you don't get paid? This is why your nudes ended up all over this site Princess Cunt.
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You know I never thought Id say this, but I now miss the Wolverine focus. JLaw has become full of herself since Hunger Games
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>>79750098
Yeah we all know full body makeup sucks and its a pain in the ass to work with. But Ron Perlman sucked it up, and even visited a children s hospital in full makeup
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>>79751020
And JLaw isnt very imposing nor sexy. Romijin got it right with both. You were scared/wary of her and you still wanted to fuck her.
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>>79750415
This.
Fuck, Swamp Thing came back for a sequel and a goddamned syndicated television series.
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>>79750945
This.
X2 was refreshing because you finally did see what her human form looked like.
Hell, I'm pretty sure she even said she refused to blend in at one point.
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>>79751155
She wasn't much of a character though. She barely had lines, Not saying she wouldn't have been better than JLaw but the role is written completely differently.
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>>79751264
>you need lines to be a character

All of her lines were good, and her only speaking when it counted only made them more effective.
I can't say the same about JLaw.
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>>79751264
The role is just as bad as the casting in this case.
They had to completely change the character to fit Lawrence, and they changed her for the worse.
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>>79751245
X3 you mean, but yeah, she hated it whenever someone asked her why she just doesn't look normal.
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>>79751245
She did.
>"They say you can look like other people. Even their voice."
>"Even their voice."
>"If you can look like them, then why don't you change to look like other people all the time?"
>"Because we shouldn't have to."
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>>79750945
And how many of those cartoons and comics had her naked?
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>>79751356
She took a human shape in X2, too, anon.
It's how Magneto escaped.
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Why people think these movies are good X-Men movies is beyond me.

They're entertaining action movies, but they're not good X-Men movies.
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>>79751304
You don't need lines to be a character but she wasn't much of one regardless.

>>79751330
>They had to completely change the character to fit Lawrence
Did they? Wasn't FC before she got big?
Maybe both casting and writing being shit is just unhappy correlation here.
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>>79751387
Oh, you mean the blonde she turned into. I guess I never considered that her "true form"
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>>79751377
Jimmy, you're thinking with your dick.
Less people would complain if the parts where she looks human and the parts where she's naked coincided mind you,
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>>79751392
DOFP was entertaining.
FC was incredibly bad in some aspects, so much so that it sort of took me out of the movie.
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>>79750622
Cummings wouldn't return because they wanted him to do all that for a glorified cameo. That's fine.
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>>79751363
Fuck Jlaw. She was full of shit with her "just like Janeane Garofal- I mean you guys!" persona, and she's just as full of shit with her new post-fappening nonsense.
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>>79750896
Is this you?
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>>79751506
Her "true form" is blue and scaly, anon.
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>>79751377
All of them, technically. Her outfits are just part of her skin.
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>>79750177

Agreed. Seeing the nature of those nudes, I'm 100% convinced the only reason she gets so many roles is because she's sucking some major produce/director dick.

She's lazy as fuck but has a meteoric rise in her career. That's definitely a sign of someone sucking dick to get ahead.

>>79750268

Yes, it's called "being an actor" that's what you fucking do.
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>>79751020

JLaw's career strategy seems to be suck dick until she's in a starring role and then use her star power to get away with being lazy as fuck.
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>>79750668

I wish we could have gotten this instead of that CGI abomination.
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>>79750622
That sucks. She was the better actress.
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>>79751656
Maybe he meant 'original form' which is definitely what she reverted to in X3.
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>>79751878
For some reason I thought her parents were also incredibly rich, but no, seems like the casting couch and the possibility that she really is a good fuck are the only things that made her famous.
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>>79751978
I don't entertain the canonicity of X3, especially since DoFP effectively cancelled it. Hell, I barely entertain that shitpile's existence.
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>>79751942
Wait, they did THIS and CG'd it out?
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>>79752216

You don't know the half of it.
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>>79752301

End.
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>>79752272
>big guy named Conan of all things

If that wasn't a sign, I don't know what is.
Jesus Christ, Jackson, of course it's not gonna be scary when he's acting casual among coworkers.
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>>79752301
Horrible decision! HORRIBLE
The fat fag needs to be slapped.
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>>79752272
Man that first actor looked so much better
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>>79752315
Fucking hell Hollywood, get your multi-million toys to work properly goddamnit.
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>>79752365

The Hobbit was a tragedy in many respects.
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>>79751942
Damn that looks great and brutal. We need to get Del Toro on some high fantasy since he won't destroy such greatness with cgi.
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>>79752412
And who thought that was a good idea? Sky Captain bullshit.
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>>79750268
considering how much she gets paid, i don't have much sympathy. she knew what the role would demand when she signed up for it and renewed her contracts. the only reason fox is putting up with her is because she's their biggest name star on the movie and her contract probably can't be cancelled without costing a small fortune.

if health issues are the problem as said here >>79750622 then just find ways around it. use cg to make her blue in digital touch-ups, who gives a crap? it may not look amazing but it would at least make her look like mystique and not jennifer lawrence.
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>>79752412
Poor Ian.
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>>79752457
Its like will Smith she's known for her face now so she's not going to cover up.
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>"Women arent mistreated in entertainment, theyre just being whiny bitch whores!"
>Fox wanting more of Jennifer Lawrences normal face in marketing is attributed her being a lazy whiny greedy bitchwhore
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>>79752457
Fox's producers on X-Men are cheap as fuck when it comes to effects anon. Why do you think FC looked this bad?
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It's because Lawrence is too whiny and disproportionately influential to wear the makeup.

Romjin was more suited to the role, her Mystique was written better, and the makeup was in a completely different league of skill and artistry. Lawrence is wearing a glorified morphsuit, head makeup, and a wig, and the shade of blue is so light that she looks like a smurf.
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>>79752482
but see with will smith it's a different story. there are plenty of times where floyd lawton doesn't have his mask on, or takes it off, or has a design that doesn't even involve a full mask.

mystique is defined by her blue skin and red hair. it's the most obvious thing about her design when you look at it in any iteration. if lawrence doesn't wanna get naked for the role then fine, there are plenty of mystique designs where she has clothes on. but ditching the blue skin and orange hair for the majority of the film is a complete cop-out.

and like the OP said, the whole point of First Class was that Mystique was no longer going to be ashamed of being a mutant and hide who she is from the world. it's a complete backpedal to have her be in human form so much.
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>>79752315
To be fair, both of the practicals sucked. Seems like all the makeup people from a decade ago are dead?
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Still would
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I'm surprised that makeup artists still haven't found a way to speed up the 8 hour makeup process. It kinda baffles me.
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>>79752259
>>79752272
>>79752282
>>79752301
>>79752315

So sad and angry about what we could have gotten instead of what was released.

If I become a billionaire, I promise you all that I'll put stupid amounts of money towards righting wrongs like this. Director wants to hire people to make five thousands sets of actual metal armor? Done. They need three more months to get the takes done well? Done. Costume and makeup department needs triple the staff in order to keep everything running smoothly? Done. Set builders want to make a town from scratch? Done. Actors too whiny for properly-done makeup? New actors.
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>>79750268
ron perlman did that shit for free for some sick kid he'd never even met. his net worth is less than 1/3 hers.
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>>79753352
They they could have just hired Andy Serkis to be Mystique, which really is a win-win on all counts.
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>>79752315
>have to make monstrous character look more human
But that takes shit away.
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>>79753736
he's getting on in years. they'd have to do it soon.
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>>79751544
This. I have no idea why people romanticize that film so much.
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>>79752754
Sure anon, sure.
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>>79753938
I liked the costumes.
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>>79752720
After a certain point you can't make paint and glue dry any faster. Hair dryers are an option but then you risk burning the actor with them.
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Maybe she realized how dumb it is to base your identity on your brothers bad pickup lines?
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>>79752272
>big guy
>masks
U U U U
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Man, there's just something about this franchise that really feels off. I feel like the people involved in making it truly don't give a shit about the source material and that's why we still get shitty costumes, actor wanking at the expense of characters (Jlaw being pushed hard, Fassbender/McAvoy/Jackman being the only ones with substantial roles), the complete shafting of characters like Cyclops and the X-Men team being ignored in general. Stupid deaths like Emma in FC, awful castings and so on.

I don't want the franchise to go back to Marvel because I think the X-Men should have their own universe and they don't fit in the MCU, but I do wish they were made by people that actually care about the source material and are excited about the franchise. Take Deadpool for example, that movie actually feels like it was made with love for the comics. They need someone like Ryan Reynolds for this franchise too.
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>>79752412
It's because del Toro left and the project was shoved onto Jackson. There's a video explaining it and how Jackson pretty much was shooting as they were planning things.
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>>79754498
Found the vid if anyone's interested
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQkygZdZ_Vk

and also fuck Lawrence
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>>79752412

>That file name

That's actually kind of deep and poetic. What if all of Lord of the Rings was just in the mind of some old actor with dementia?
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>>79752457

I just got doing the Avatar: The First Flight of Turok.

It's a Cirque De Solei show that's a prequel to Avatar. You know how they made everyone blue Navi? They had body suits, like the same material you'd use on a green screen suit, that were painted blue, the muscles painted on and only the actors face, neck and hands and feet were painted blue.

Cheap and effective. I don't see why she couldn't of done something like that. It looked great LIVE. The movie has CGI to edit after the fact.

I'm agreeing with your post, I'm just saying I've seen ways of getting the same effect for way easier and cheaper. JLaw and Fox have no fucking excuse. She's just looking for an easy phone-in role. Show up on set for a week, don't put make up on, leave and be in the bahamas next week.

Fuck her.
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>>79754563
Yeah, that's probably the biggest tragedy with Hobbit.
It was so rushed and Jackson had such a small deadline to meet
It's amazing they were coherent at all. Hell, I even liked the first one, and would've liked the second if they didn't throw in the chick from Ant Man.
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>>79754304

>Take Deadpool for example, that movie actually feels like it was made with love for the comics. They need someone like Ryan Reynolds for this franchise too.

Yeah /co/ seems to be shitting on Deadpool but I've been fairly impressed with the attention to detail. Ryan Reynolds produced it so it would do the character justice. His passion alone produced a way better result.

You're right, I think it's just a job for a lot people. I've worked in this industry long enough to realize a lot of people barely give a shit about what they work on, it's just a paycheck to them. But that's why I would want it to go back to the MCU because at least they seem to care (or did pre-Avengers, it's slipping now that a bunch of people have their hands on it.)
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>>79754848
Lawrence already used a suit in DoFP, the process was already as cost and time effective as possible without compromising the look too much
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>>79750098

That was LITERALLY her fucking character arc in the movie, you imbecile.
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>>79754648

What if our reality is just all in the mind of some old god with dementia?
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What went wrong?
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>>79755111
They stopped using real actors and started using flash in the pan teenagers that weren't raised on stories of Kubrik and Hitchcock treating their actors like cattle.
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>>79754994
Anon, that isnt a screenshot from First Class.
The point is that character development has been thrown out the window two movies later because sitting still while an army of makeup artists do the actual work is HARD.
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>>79755111
>emo hair on nightcrawler

It's over.
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>Acting
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>>79755053
That would explain a lot actually.
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>>79753736
Sorry anon, he simply lacks the physique at this point.
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I hate mystique.

Why the fuck the xmen movies put her on the spotlight? She's the lamest of all the mutants, and i never liked them that much.
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>>79750668
>>79751942
>>79752216
>>79752259
>>79752272
>>79752282
>>79752301
>>79752315
I am livid coming to face with this bullshit. What the fuck happened to Jackson that he decided to ditch all the practical shit that made him famous? Did he have a sudden case of mental retardation?
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>>79757389
Firstly. Jackson's always been a fan of CG. It's just that now the technology is more available and easier to work with. Secondly. There's honestly nothing wrong with quality CGI. TFA proved that just because an effect is practical doesn't automatically make it good, cheap shit is still cheap shit.
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>>79752628
>if lawrence doesn't wanna get naked for the role then fine

I don't think that's fine. That's part of the character she agreed to play. Fuck her, who the fuck does she think she is? Oh right, she's a giant stupid cunt who harasses reporters for looking at their phone in her presence.
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>>79757490
>There's honestly nothing wrong with quality CGI.

There is if your live-action film starts looking like a cartoon. I love cartoons but they don't mix well with real actors.
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>>79757490
Avatar and Pacific Rim proved that long ago Starwarsfag
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>>79750098
Which makes no sense. In First Class she got over being ashamed of her mutant form. So why would she be human in 90% of the next movie?....
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>>79750098
Jennifer Lawrence is a lazy, terrible and honestly very dumb as far as her mental capacities go. Very low energy.
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>>79757490
I never said CGI in general in bad, it's just too much and everything looks cheap and fake no matter how expensive it is. The original movies were great because they mixed CGI AND practical effects.

>>79757748
>Avatar
Dances in wolves with space. Looks good, but not nearly as good for what it cost.
>Pacific Rim
Everything but the robot fighting was hot dog shit.
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>>79757678
They can if you use modern cg with actual time, effort, and passion. Not a lot are willing to sit and work on a computer doing cg work for likely a couple months, so often people use shortcuts on the cg or use mostly practical effects to minimize the need. Understandable, but not the fault of the medium. It won't improve if you don't use, learn, and modify it. Despite this cg is still evolving to be better and better every year. I look forward to it surpassing practical effects in its availability to use well, and ability to match and surpass what we can do in reality. That'll be when shit gets interesting.
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>>79750268
Part of the role. If she doesn't want it anymore, she should quit.
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>>79757389
Watch >>79754563
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>>79757186

Because JLaw is taken the producers cock up her ass.
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>>79752315

>And then Deathstroke out of nowhere!
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>>79758334
Contract, guy.
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Why don't they just CGI mocap her? So she doesn't need to do makeup.
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>>79761322

Why don't they just CGI Mystique so they don't need to have JLaw at all? It's like Bojack Horseman.
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>>79754304
>X-Men should have their own universe and they don't fit in the MCU
if you think that way your a retard
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>>79752454
The issue was that because they were filming it for 3d the forced perspective tricks that they did with the Lord of the Rings wouldn't work.
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>>79757678

Someone really should have told that to the guys making the Warcraft movie.
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>>79758290
That won't be any time soon. Though I hope I'm alive for it.
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>>79755111
>>79755149
The thing that amazes me to this day is the Kelsey Grammer agreed to play Beast and took the roll seriously
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>>79750268
Hey remember how Gimli in LOTR was actually allergic to his own makeup?

Yeah. She needs to toughen up.
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>>79765032
>The thing that amazes me to this day is the Kelsey Grammer agreed to play Beast and took the roll seriously
In the 2000's actors had principles. Before YA and spoof movies became a thing and everything took a fucking nose dive. They still exist but it's starting to happen far and few in between where they are just getting any half good looking asshole to play the part.
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>>79764354
Not really.

Even in the comics the X-Men and the Avengers didn't really gel together very well

Why isn't Spider-Man the subject of the apparently prevalent mutant hate? Nobody normal will know that he isn't a mutant.
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>>79750098
she's a lumpy looking thing, isn't she
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>>79765162
blame shitty writers you can have them work and keep the hatred of mutants if all the writers did not make it obvious mutant haters live in a bubble
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>>79765178
She's not that attractive and from what I seen, she can't act for shit. I don't understand for the life of me why she's so popular.
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>>79750268

Boo, hoo. Suck it up. Far more talented actors have had to do shit like this.
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>>79753502

She's just a diva. She blew up because of hunger games and now she can afford to affect the movies production.

>No I'm not going through the make up process, I'm Jennifer Lawrence and you cant afford to lose me

Fuck her.
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>>79750098

Biggest reason i couldn't get in to first class.

>Mystique who is probably about 16 tries to sleep with what looks like a 27 yearold magneto.
>"i like you more as a mutant not as a human!"
>proceds to walk around the house naked.
>gets angry when pointed out that just because shes a mutant doesn't mean she's exempt from wearing cloths.
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>>79765101
Kelsey Grammer is a b-list actor whose main pastimes are whiskey and cocaine. He takes every role seriously because if he didn't put out quality work no one would hire him. And quit acting like lazy, entitled actors are a new thing.
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>>79754304

Deadpools X-men stuff felt so true to the comics. Every part where Wade interacted with them was fuckin gold. Even if we only saw Colossus and Negasonic.

Colossus hearing about Deadpools shenanigans on the news, immediately knowing who he is and rushing off to shut his shit down. I could see that in comic panel form.

I loved that stuff. I hope the sequel really expands on his relationship with em.
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>>79750268
Aww, the poor wittle baby.
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>>79765265

>whose main pastimes are whiskey and cocaine

>not tossed salad and scrambled eggs

COme on anon.
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>>79765265
>whose main pastimes are whiskey and cocaine.
Are we supposed to act like this isn't the case for A-list actors as well?
>He takes every role seriously because if he didn't put out quality work no one would hire him.
There is a school of thought in acting that says "work is work there are no small or shitty parts" and that mentality does seem to skew older.
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>>79765162
>Why isn't Spider-Man the subject of the apparently prevalent mutant hate? Nobody normal will know that he isn't a mutant.
It was a minor plot point briefly in some story.
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>>79765101
>In the 2000's
>Before YA and spoof movies became a thing
Stop being a retard, anon.
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>>79750098

She was murant and proud in the timeline she shoots Trask and becomes Magneto's right hand woman. Who knows what the fuck she is in this new timeline.
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>>79765162

Most characters work better isolated. Batman is a lot stronger when he's the only one doing what he does. It makes him a lot more remarkable when Gotham isn't overflowing with superheroes. Same goes for the punisher, who works best in his own world like MAX instead of the same universe with talkign raccoons and molemen.
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>>79765265
These Ya actors are fucking godawful and Jennifer Laurence and fucking kristen Stewart got in without any talent past a pretty fucking face. There ust used to be more people willing to give it their all instead of acting like a fucking cunt.
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>>79765500
Are you joking? Do you really think no famous actress got by entirely on their looks before the 2010s?
Looks have been like 80% of Hollywood actresses' "talent" since forever.
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>>79765534
I didn't forget about that cunt but there's just starting to be a bigger divide between who cares and who doesn't.
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Potato and proud!
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I'd fuck Jennifer Lawrence so hard. My goodness. I'd use every iota of her energy up.

Have you guys never seen the Poker House? Jennifer can actually act. I don't know wtf happened to her ability to act but she can so yeah, imagine that, captain autismos.
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>>79765574
She's not a cunt, just a terrible actress.
>there's just starting to be a bigger divide between who cares and who doesn't
How do you figure.
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>>79752315
>cryinggandalf.jpg
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>>79753502
Based Ron.
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>>79765265
Pump your breaks kid, Frasier is a treasure.
That other anon is retarded tho
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>>79752272
>that one with red
Mamma mia, they had a fucking winner and they used CGI instead.
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>>79765657
I just miss times when people who might be shit didn't just sleep walk through things. It used to be that most of the shitty actors weren't just brought out on the big screen every movie. Granted there are a lot of shit movies but movies have gotten oversaturated as fuck and with it even more people who don't care.
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>>79757878
We're talking about visual quality you dumbfuck, not story/plot. Both avatar and pacific rim had the best CGI in the market and both showed that it could be well used.
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>>79765679
On that note the Fat Gandalf joke in Deadpool worked better subtitled in French than not.
>Gandalf the Grey
Gandalf le Gris
>Fat Gandalf
Gandalf le Gros
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>>79750268
>My job is a living hell
>I literally get paid a million dollars a day to sit in a mildly uncomfortable chair for 2 hours

Fuck Jennifer Lawrence.
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>>79750098

>Mutant and proud!

god she delivered that line awfully

why is first class so overrated on co? easily on par with x3
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>>79754563
>planning
that word THAT WORD EVERY FUCKING PERSON I'VE KNOWN FUCKING FORGOT WHAT PLANNING MEANS GOD FUCKING DAMN IT.

I'm serious it seems like no one knows how to plan shit anymore, what the fuck is happening with this world. Why aren't people capable of using the shitty thing they have inside their cranium anymore? People who were fucking brilliant became such mindless idiots absolutely incapable of the slightest amount of forethought.

I know this is an unrelated rant but this particular word, or more specifically, people not planning, has been appearing so much for me in the last few days that I can't NOT get MAD.
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>>79757678
>I love cartoons but they don't mix well with real actors.
>What's Roger Rabbit?
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>>79750098
>that casting choice

Yeah, the Mystique shit they pulled in these new films never sat with me

>She's giving some battle rally speech in that Apocalypse trailer

They're throwing the actual character out the window and just making her J.L with powers, it's like how I know Olivia Munn won't be able to act like an asian britbong so they'll either just make her a 'silent badass' who stares at things intensely or make her Munn with lasers
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>>79753502
man I wish Hellboy would give me a hug :/
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