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Time once again for the Blue marvelous Adam Brashear also known as Ultimates #4
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>>79741685
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>>79741695
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>>79741701
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>>79741713
I need you to punch monsters
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>>79741685
So Brashear is meant to be 87? O-Ok.
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>>79741731
>>79741737
anti-matter don't crack
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>>79741753
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>>79741773
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>>79741737

iirc part of his original deal was a Sentry thing, he was around as a hero for a bit way back when and then retired for reasons I don't remember
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>>79741789
Maybe I'm just a fake geek boy but I've honestly not heard of him before.
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>>79741784
>>79741789
>then retired for reasons I don't remember
too black too strong, JFK told him to stop.
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>>79741815
>>79741812
He is an old hero IN the MU, but he is a new character only made in I think 2009 and doesn't have a lot of appearances.
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>>79741815

I thought it was the first part but didn't wanna say it when unsure and worry about a shitstorm starting

also this really makes sliding timeline obvious huh

>>79741812

He's pretty recent and I don't think anyone but Ewing has really used him
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>>79741833
Why does the protective suit have eye holes?
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>>79741848
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>>79741870
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>>79741889
>a force of universal importance that we reversed
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>>79741916
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>>79741930
What is America made of that she can resist all that inhospitable space?
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>>79741981
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>>79741994
Is it me or does Eternity's face look like lord chaos?
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>>79742015
See you next time folks
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>>79741841
Blue Marvel ages slowly, IIRC
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>>79741981
>What is America made of that she can resist all that inhospitable space?
Tumblrium
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>>79742015
I hope Eternity is a cocky asshole who gets BTFO like back in the Warlock days
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So assuming they manage to reach "outside", what's it gonna be? Our "dimension" or something?
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>>79741815
>JFK told him to stop.
Why didn't he say "fuck you" and just go to some other country where he would be appreciated? Why didn't he unretire years ago when overt racism was no longer a thing?
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>>79741713
Carol has memory issues? Convenient excuse for exposition
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If this is an area outside of the Multiverse, shouldn't there be thousands if not millions of Anti-Men from different realities and not just one?
Shouldn't several teams of Ultimates be investigating at the same time?
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>>79743237
KSD wiped her mind.
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>>79743283
They needed Ms. America to get this far and there's only one Ms. America in the multiverse, since the universe she came from was a special one-of-a-kind pocket universe that The Demiurge created.
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>>79743309
That explains that. Still doesn't explain why there's only one Anti-Man
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>>79743182
The second is addressed in the mini, that being that he felt really spiteful towards the world after what happened. He only came back when Anti Man came back because he was his friend.
It's also brought up by Cage in Mighty Avengers.
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>>79741994
He just doesn't look the same in yellow

or gold

or whatever that is

So what is the truth
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>>79743751
>So what is the truth
Meaning of life/42/some large piece of cosmic esoterica that humans shouldn't be learning, honestly.
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>>79741784

wow. He's tumblrshit gone mad
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Blue Marvel is embarrassing.
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Could someone story time the first three issues?
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>>79741889

oh shit, calling the old man right on his bullshit
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>>79742015

so this shit is gonna blow up on their face.

I knew Ewing wouldn't change Galactus and leave him just like that.
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>>79741657

Oh boy, can't wait to hear a bunch of people tellling me how amazing america chavez is this week
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>>79741753
Oh rocafort
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>>79741981

Magic and Tumblr
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>>79744870

she doesn't even do shit on this issue, calm your tits

Ewing may hype his own characters but he knows how to balance his cast
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>>79743237
Rogue wiped her mind, and her first series as Captain Marvel basically ended with a self induced lobotomy...
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>>79741753
That Iron Marvel suit looks badass.
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This book would be so much more enjoyable without those cunts of Carol and America there.

Specially that fucking bitch of America.

That said, great issue, Blue Marvel is a very interesting character under the adequate roles. (not black superman)
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>>79745386
The fuck did Carol do?
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>>79744430
seconded
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>>79744870
>>79742377
>barely says anything or even get panel time
>they're still mad
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>>79745386
America and Carol haven't even done anything
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>>79741671
the fuck he reused the art from ultimates #2
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>>79745786
That's the recap page
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>>79745786
It's from Avengers #0, and yeah it's just the recap page.
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>>79745386
>>79744870
You may be right but you're really not helping yourself when the reaction to them doing nothing is this.
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>>79741671
How did they solve the galactus problem?
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This book would be better if it wasn't blue marvel and friends. No wonder it sells terribly
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>>79746219
They put him back in his egg and used Iso-8 to evolve him further.
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>>79746442
It's clear from mighty avengers and this that Ewing likes Blue Marvel. He likes Monica to but not nearly to the same extent. Tchalla only occasionally gets lines, America is a bus, and Carol barely has a reason to be around.
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>>79746609
likes?
it's like he's his fathero
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>>79747167
>one son hates him
>they other got sent to the beyond
>Ewing was just wiping out the competition
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>>79747218
he's writig father son drama because he can never have him as his father that he's always dreamed of.
so he's writing hims as a great father who is separated from his beloved sons due to circumstances
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Who knocked 20XX Songbird up? Blue Marvel or Dr. Positron?
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>>79747548
>20XX Songbird
who?
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>>79747640
Oh wait nevermind
>>79747548
blue marvel
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>>79742015
>>79738534
... Eternity War not so far off after all?
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>>79743751
>So what is the truth
The one above all is dying
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>>79748407
Yeah good work Marvel stealing the title from the current He-Man comic series!
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I am glad we are getting some actual cosmic stuff at least in one comic.
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>>79743792
Like that shit really matters anymore to a species that lives for around 80-100 years.
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>>79743107
Reed, Franklin and the Molecule Man creating universes?
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>>79744421
Blue Marvel is great. He's Reed Richards with more personal drama and less dickishness. And punching.
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>>79741916
>just like everyone else

except he's not you stupid nigger
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>>79743182
>>79743445
He still had adventures and saved the world as Dr Brashear during his "retirement". He just did it without being noticed.
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>>79741737
Decelerated aging. Same goes (went) for his wife & kids for spending so much time around him. Ewing said as such in Mighty Avengers.
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>>79744403
Ewing actually did a fair job of covering up the original dialogue from the mini he's from, where it's specifically racism against Adam that he's so pissed at.
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>>79752397
Specifically as a Doc Savage homage.
Ewing's a cool dude.
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>>79752066
It's a comic narrative. He kinda is.
Kevin's outside the MU looking in, he knows these things.

BTW thanks whoever shared that Mighty Avengers tied up the loose ends from Nextwave a few weeks back, had I not then read it I'd have no context for Kevin showing up the fuck out of nowhere.
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>>79748407
...Oh shit, it's LITERALLY a War with Eternity!
gg
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>>79741753
that's a pretty fly suit Carol's rocking there
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You know, this comic is the first in a long time where I'm genuinely curious where it's going. What is out there beyond the universe and stuff?
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>>79742015
Singularity is totally Eternity's psuedo daughter, isn't she
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>>79741981
you know Demiurge? multiversal architect and Wiccan's penultimate future?

Demiurge personally made her world and chilled there for a few millenia. She absorbed a sliver of his power through constant exposure, and was the only person on her world that decided they'd rather go sight seeing around the multiverse rather than enjoy utopia forever.

you could almost consider her Demiurge's Silver Surfer in terms of her powers
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>>79753006
Well that makes sense, I hope Ewing gets a chance to flesh her out, iirc this is selling less than new avengers.
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>>79753006
It's probably more a compatibility thing than a power thing. Like a side power to prevent her from dying in the event that she walks into a universe with a radically different atmosphere.
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>>79741671
I really like these recap pages.
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>>79741833
>>79741848

Blue Marvel is a fucking asshole.
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>>79741657
It's sad this reads like a Fantastic Four story with the Fantastic Four replaced with the Diversity Squad. "Fixing" Galactus and going on interdimensional adventures is just the sort of stuff the FF used to get up to.
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>>79741753
Carol's helmet works a lot better with an actual fin instead of hair. Covering her whole face helps too
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>>79743237
That's kinda Carol's thing. Happens about every 5-10 years. A new writer takes over, wipes Carol's memories, and gives her a new personality to match what they want to write.
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>>79754536
Oh wow, how did i not see this by now. At least its a pretty decent book. The only thing not diversity replaced yet is iorn man.
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>>79741784
So the Neutral Zone is the LSD dimension, basically.
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>>79745092
I like MAC, I still laughed tho.
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>>79743751
they're all comic book characters
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Why didn't Eternity stop them before they left?
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>>79754536
The Ultimates are a much more interesting team than the Fantastic Four have ever been.
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>>79759667
>the book where everyone is a brick and/or plot device except for the guy who's a dime-store Reed Richards
>more interesting than the FF
It always astounds me how true it is that /co/ doesn't read comics.
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>>79759667
Did you read Robinson's FF? No, no you did not, and it was fucking marvelous.
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>>79759769
>stretch guy
>fire
>rubber guy
>more interesting than anti-matter, living light, and multiversal travel

Not that guy but the bricks have it when it comes to interesting powers.
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>>79759769
I think I prefer the methodical, almost militarized way the Ultimates handle themselves as well.

That's obviously a personal preference thing, though.
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>>79759979
Seriously? There's some damn good F4 out there but Robinson is not it.
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>>79759997
>Stretch Guy
>Rubber Guy
There's two?
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>>79759997
Since when is powerset the benchmark for character depth?

And besides, those are all just more flowery names for the same shit happening.

>>79760012
>methodical, almost militarized
Hardly. The team's basically had applying the "what if the heroes applied a radical change they otherwise wouldn't" on a cosmic scale. It's really just The Authority but somehow even less practical/substantial.
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>>79760053
But it was, it was good.
Aside from plot-twist I guess.
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>>79760083
Reed is so nice I had to put him twice. put r for rock, tabbed away to do something and wrote rubber when I came back
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>>79760116
Between Lee/Kirby, Waid/Weiringo, and Simonson, you pick his?

I'm >>79759769 and even I know Robinson was nothing but middling.
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>>79760102
>Since when is powerset the benchmark for character depth?
It's not you are the one to comment about them being bricks. The point was that their powers are interesting.Personally I find exploring rarely used and or new characters interesting as well.
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>>79760205
>Personally I find exploring rarely used and or new characters interesting as well.
So do I. But the point was no one but Marvel is being explored.

Reed, Sue, Ben, and Johnny, contrary to what people say, all have their own unique identities and personalities. They've been "explored," while this book looks to be a continuation of Ewing writing "Blue Marvel and Company."
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>>79760151
It was just something I read and enjoyed, even though I was well aware it wasn't one of the best FF stories. I enjoyed the use of some classic things along with Heroes Reborn making a bit of a comeback.
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>>79760296
>I enjoyed the use of some classic things along with Heroes Reborn making a bit of a comeback.
I liked a lot of that continuity stuff, too. It's just that when you're out to defend something, you usually put your best foot forward.
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>>79760281
>So do I. But the point was no one but Marvel is being explored.
it's only 4 chapters in, and the first two surrounded Galactus more than anything else. The F4 have had 50+ years to develop their characters. Considering mighty avengers Ewing will get to other characters he just started off with Adam, he already set up plot lines with America planning to take them out, and Monica becoming less human.
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>>79741833
So why does Blue Marvel get a pass for this sort of retconning but everyone shits on the Sentry for the same thing?

Oh well, at least it's canon that Sentry pounded Rogue's sweet ass.
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>>79760475
>it's only 4 chapters in
I'm giving it hope, and most of my problems come from Ewing's handling of the "cosmic scale" more than character work, but it's so disproportionately about Brashear right now that he seems so integral to the book's future. Especially since this looks to crossover with his plans in New Avengers.

>>79760526
Loads of people hate Blue Marvel, even moreso because of the "diversity" thing.
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>>79760526
It's because for the most part Sentry wasn't meant to be a character that was constantly used. He's a Superman clone with a ridiculous backstory, sure, but he was never meant to be an ongoing character in the primary continuity of Marvel.
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>>79760592
Ewing's plans*
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>>79760526
Anon, maybe you werent around when it happens, but /co/ largely hated blue marvel.They considering him an OP mary sue. Smart as reed and more powerful than basic sentry. It wasn't until mighty avengers that people became slightly ok with him, I'm honestly surprised America gets more shit than him in these threads.
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>>79759667
Lol. Holy shit, what are you, 10? This is honestly the most retarded thing I've ever read on 4chan, and I routinely browse /pol/.
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>>79760606
How is he a Superman clone? The only thing they have in common is an "S" emblem.
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>>79760592
>Ewing's handling of the "cosmic scale" more than character work
Yeah I agree he seems to be determined to show how big this is suppose to be.
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>>79760592
>with his plans in New Avengers.
what plans?
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>>79760750
Exactly. The appeal of cosmic is that it involves things above the influence of superheroes/superhero morality. There are problems and characters that can't be overcome through saccharine optimism and punching. Ewing does look to be complicating things with Blue Marvel, but the common theme of his work is "superheroes always save the day;" the antithesis of classic cosmic.

>>79760773
People are theorizing that the Eternity Wars mentioned in NA refer to the Eternity we see at the end of this issue.
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>>79760618
it's because we can all see the big-ass backlash coming his way
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>>79760526
Blue Marvel gets way more shit for it than Sentry though.
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>>79759667
How can that be when only one character is even doing anything in this. It doesn't even read like a team book
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>>79760708
You obviously haven't read a lot of sentry.
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>>79760871
I think the fact that Eternity is trying to kill them for fucking with the cosmic order is a bit more complicated than "superheroes always save the day."
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Blue Marvel's only getting focus because this arc features anti-man. First issue was exposition, 2nd was Black Panther, 3rd was set up for current arc and this one is BM. Remember that this is four issues in.
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>>79753006
Nothing good came from Young avengers. Nothing.
Will be ecstatic when all of that stupid shit is retconned and we never see anyone from that series again.
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>>79741737
The price of becoming more than human Anon.
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>>79741753
I'm more surprised that Rocafort waited this long to bring out the 90's future suits.
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>>79741848
Why does Batman's gear vacuum form to his muscles and his eyes become white? So they're easier to express.
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>>79765709
>Main part of Carol's armor is her original costume
Cute, Rocafort.
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>>79764449
The original run was solid
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>>79764449
>Nothing good came from Young avengers
it gave the Loki mindclone the character development needed to lead into Agent of Asgard.

the villain was pretty cool
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>>79743283
Weren't most of other Universes destroyed during Secret Wars and are geting rebuilt now? As far as I get there is a handful of universes at the moment and only this one, supposedly, was rebuilt that well.
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>>79764449
where did the queer comic touch you, anon?
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>>79765709
I miss that stuff man. so sick of modern heroes just wearing like, t-shirts and a leather jacket or whatever. bring back the fantasy cool ass shit in comics hashtag am I doing the internet right?
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>>79760526
No one talks much about BM to begin with. And when they do he gets shitted on.

I always hated his past story shit because the idea of a world just forgetting that a Thor+ class hero was flying around and black to boot was pure retarded. Sentry at least had memory wipe magic going for him.

>>79754536
Its a team book with non race swaps out doing shit. I'll take that any day over race/gender bending legacy heroes for quick bucks. And it isn't like multiple teams don't handle the same type of objectives.
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barefoot America when?
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