OH MY GOD, HOW HARD IS IT TO GRASP THAT YOU CAN'T MAKE SEXUALITY OR WEIGHT DEFINING CHARACTER TRAIT
Matt Murdock is still relevant not because he is just "blind guy", Tony Stark is still popular not because he is just "drunk guy", fucking Hawkeye became leader of Avengers and Thunderbolts not because he is just "bow guy".
how does the fat woman fly? is she filled with some kind of lighter than air gas? does she propel it out of her asshole to achieve enough thrust for flight? or is it queefs? does she fly from rocket queefs? do her meat curtains make a constant "BLRLRLRLRPRPRPRPRPRLLPRPRP" sound like a deflating balloon as she flies with her jet queefs?
>>79739354 I don't know, does anyone have that story of the dude whos mother was having a heart attack on like the 6th floor of a building, the Paramedic that showed up was fat as all hell and couldn't make it up the stairs very fast while refusing to let the son take the adrenaline needle or whatever she needed up to her while she was dying on the floor. Tl:dr Fattie takes a break half way up to catch her breath, Mom dies due to the paramedic not making it in time.
Or alternatively the one of the guy who is in a pretty bad car accident, wakes up feeling weak and woozy, hungry as hell, tries to call the nurse but passes out. Wakes up, struggling to breathe and feeble as fuck because he hasn't eaten in 4-5 days, passes out. Eventually wakes up and manages to stay concious enough for a nurse to come feed him, once he has the energy he asks why he was left to starve like an animal for nearly a week. Nurse asks what he means since they brought him three meals a day and always collected empty plates. Fat bitch in the bed next to him "I dint du nuffin wrong!". Guy nearly starves to death in hospital because fatty jacks his food while he was passed out for days straight. And the worst part is the elderly woman who was in that ward before him had died, not due to direct medical concerns, but to malnutrition and starvation which they were struggling to explain and put down to age.
Y'know man, I used to be of the opinion that if you were a heroin addict... So long as your opiot addiction wasn't causing you to harm and victimize others (Which with a smackhead is an enivitability) then go be a junkie.
What do I give a fuck if you kill yourself? So long as your lifestyle does not cause you to kill, assualt, rape, steal from and cheat others (Which again... Unfortunately is simply what a junkie eventually ends up doing.) then in this magical ideal world. I didn't give a shit about your fatal, self harming lifestyle choice.
I cop shit from people from drinking coke or energy drinks at times, equally as much as I do for smoking. It leaves thinking... What the fuck has the Western world turned into?
>>79739460 ok, i'll admit i have no idea who this faith person is. I just know she's a fat lady superhero, which causes bloggers to spooge in their pants and people here to misplace all of their shit. who is faith? is this her first series? where can i read her best material?
>>79739390 >It's at the point where we can't criticize a comic? but you're not really criticizing the comic, you only venting your frustration out on the comic audacity to have a fat main character. Hell, in the 3 Faith related threads we've had in this, I don't think I've seen a single actually critique or discussion on the actual comic, but just about how fat Faith is.
It really shows how right Marvel is with their whole controversy is good sales pitch, because before Faith a Valiant thread was luck to get double digit post, now she's guaranteed about 300 - 500 post.
>>79739354 No what fat people do is suck up unneeded medicare that nbers I'm the millions which could go to patients that just got unlucky with the lottery that is life versus fat FUCKS who just had to eat that 8th slice of pizza
Speaking as a fatass myself, doesn't always feel great to cop shit for being fat... But as a man I have a skin thicker than a Jews foreskin.
Infact my thick skin is reinforced by several layers of fat... So in reality, if I do carry such shame about my weight or I am so sensitive about it; I might want to go to the fuckin gym every week, start jogging, eat better food and less of it, give up drinking perhaps.
These are solutions, I do not take them because clearly I don't want to lose weight enough. I'm making a choice, just like I do with my smoking. So I'll be one fatty to admit that if fat jokes hurt my feewings so much...
>>79739354 Fat people are a hazard for the already overworked health care personnel that needs to lift them around. They also consume tax money in countries with public healthcare with their bullshit.
Also fat tends to be hereditary since people move their unhealthy eating habits on to their kids. So childcare services could get involved too, since in some cases it's like intentionally dooming your innocent kid to live with diabetes
>>79739598 I remember a story about 2 guys where one was a fat dude, so his friend would message him insults online/on the phone and even when they were talking in-person. The fat guy go so fed up with it, he actually got down to a decent weight.
>>79739493 Fat "shaming" applies to everyone, but it's fat women who screech louder about how it's "shaming" to state that fat is unhealthy and also unattractive, and who try to bend reality by repeating that fat women can be beautiful and healthy too so long that it becomes reality.
Fat guys just sort of accept that yeah ok it's not healthy or hot instead of organising movements around trying to claim that they're just as hot as the superhero bods
I'll never understand where the idea that hating fat people and shaming them is okay. Like, fat acceptance people are retarded and are 99% of the time huge assholes, so i can understand making fun of them, because they're dicks. But what's the point in shitting on some average joe who's fat. Is there anything to benefit from it?
>>79739692 god damn I thought Imperium was a stand alone series that just started. there's loads of books about these people out there! man, I came here to shitpost but now I get to read a bunch of comics I didn't know existed! this is great!
I don't have an opinion on the comic. I have an opinion on organisations like marvel throwing out gimmick series and feigning some great social justice struggle when some people express ill will towards it, what ever the reason.
>>79739341 Stigmatizing fat people actually makes them less likely to lose weight because they emotionally eat to cope with that shit. I agree that it's unhealthy and this needs to be pointed out but there's no reason to be a dick about it.
>>79739716 And you can't stop being a smoker overnight either.
Unless you're counting the second you stop physically smoking cigarettes for the last time, you're not a smoker, then by the same logic, the second a hamplanet says "I'm going on a diet and this time I'm sticking to it!" and starts eating a reasonable amount of food each day for the first time then they have stopped being a fatty waste of space overnight.
>>79739795 Man. Follow the fucking discussion. I'm just saying she's not fat enough to not have a job. To be that fat you have to be fucking, you can't move. This character is fat as hell but she can still leave the house, get into a car, and sit at a fucking computer.
>>79739713 Same point as shitting on anyone. 4chan pretty much openly accepts bullying and being a douchebag. I liked that mentality when I was younger but now I'm starting to feel edgy and self-conscious about it.
>>79739797 People aren't really "stigmatizing" them though, just pointing out that it's unhealthy. And honestly if you're so retarded that you react to people telling you that x is bad for you by going "I'LL SHOW YOU, I'LL DO EVEN MORE X" you're emo teen -tier retarded and perhaps the people being mean to you have a point
>>79739443 Why do people act like getting compliments can never be harassment? Yeah, it can be nice, but not when some creepy old stranger is following you in a public park and starts shouting because you don't want to give him attention.
>>79739888 >People aren't really "stigmatizing" them though, just pointing out that it's unhealthy
It goes far above and beyond calling it unhealthy.
>And honestly if you're so retarded that you react to people telling you that x is bad for you by going "I'LL SHOW YOU, I'LL DO EVEN MORE X" you're emo teen -tier retarded and perhaps the people being mean to you have a point
I doubt it's often a conscious rebel thing like you make it out to be. People don't think that deeply about their maladjusted coping mechanisms.
>>79739906 You can point out unhealthy behaviors without being a giant dick to people. The kind of people who are "fat shaming" on the internet don't give a shit about health whatsoever, they just pick on fat people because they're ugly. They have a right to do that, but they're still dicks.
>>79739914 >but not when some creepy old stranger is following you in a public park and starts shouting because you don't want to give him attention. And that happens roughly never, and is not a sign of a culture that is trying to hold down woman
>>79740032 They don't need to be ugly for my statement to be true, just that many people consider them ugly, and they do. Not that you care about consistency whatsoever beyond contriving deliberate misunderstandings for your pseudo-Socratic bullshit.
>>79740059 >Following people around and stalking them isn't just "saying words someone dislikes" either. Not the content, the person. A person starts talking to you spontaneously. You look at the person and judge by appearance only if you like them or not. And then decide if you want to keep listening to them or not. Unless that person is actually being agressive, you have no right to call that "harassment".
>the amount of people straight up admitting they've never even heard of the character before her this. Be real you guys come to Faith threads to hate on fat chicks, that's cool and all, I fucking hate those leaches as well, but seriously that's the only reason most of you are here right?
>>79740105 I didn't mention "culture", I addressed certain people's attitude to harassment that I felt that comic embodied. You'd have every right to complain about muggings. I have a funny feeling there's another type of person with double-g's that you REALLY want to complain about, though. Get mugged by a white person next time and maybe you'll feel better about it.
>>79740126 >Not the content, the person. A person starts talking to you spontaneously. You look at the person and judge by appearance only if you like them or not.
My example was about following someone and shouting at them, so yeah, that's harassment. And yes, repeating the same thing over and over to someone who clearly isn't interested is pretty much the definition of harassment, especially when it's sexual or threatening.
>>79740177 I really don't see what your point is here. Yes, women get harassed on the street. Everyone is at risk of that. What this comic >>79739443 is making fun of is a very specific kind of harpy who complains about the most innocent of compliments from strangers
>>79740230 There's a difference between "healthy at every size" and "maybe doxxing far people over at /r/FatPeopleHate is going too far". You're just blurring the lines because you want to look like some heroic defender of public health instead of some dipshit on the internet ranting about "muh tax dollars".
>>79740243 >I really don't see what your point is here. Yes, women get harassed on the street. Everyone is at risk of that.
And everyone has the right to complain about it, although it doesn't happen in equal ratios.
>What this comic >>79739443 is making fun of is a very specific kind of harpy who complains about the most innocent of compliments from strangers
Considering your use of the word "harpy" I really doubt you have much respect for people in general. Innocent language isn't just determined by words themselves, but things like tone, repetition, public context and the relationship between speaker and listener. I really doubt groups of guys in cars who call out "Nice tits" to women walking on the street are actually compelled to make a stranger feel better about their breasts by doing so, instead of just wanting to humiliate and harass them.
>>79740355 >I really doubt groups of guys in cars who call out "Nice tits" to women walking on the street are actually compelled to make a stranger feel better about their breasts by doing so, instead of just wanting to humiliate and harass them. I dunno man. Have you actually just considered that perhaps she has nice tits?
>>79740355 >Considering your use of the word "harpy" I really doubt you have much respect for people in general. Innocent language isn't just determined by words themselves, but things like tone, repetition, public context and the relationship between speaker and listener.
And in the comic that started the whole argument, the "harasser" sun just complimented her back after she addressed him.
It's pretty obviously meant to mock people who overreact to nothing, not to women who get creeped out when a strange man starts following them around.
>>79740305 please stop talking shit when you know nothing
Valiant is pushing Faith because they want to start a movie universe and would like a female franchise, their only female protagonist in the announced movies is Faith. They could have done Livewire as their female franchise but she has so little screentime in everything up to Harbinger Wars that it would take ages to actually get to a point where she can have a major role in a movie.
They have been pushing Faith for a while because she IS a fan-favourite and she's good for their movies. If they wanted to get SJW points then they would give a solo to Livewire who is a black woman, but Livewire is not a character who has any real fan following.
Maybe you should actually read some Valiant and look at the way she's being pushed in their comics. They want her to fill the role of the most popular superhero on Earth in their universe, if you look at any of the stories she is in the overall arc is about her following growing on media and social media with her eventually becoming one of the most popular humans of all time, Harbinger was the only comic that even went into her being fat and they did not advertise that fact whatsoever.
>>79739737 Harbinger is basically the first act where Pete Stanchek is the hero and Harada is the villain then there's a transition miniseries called Harbinger: Omegas (and a side story called Armor Hunters: Harbinger)
There is also Unity which is tangentially tied to Harbinger, issue #1-5 have toyo Harada and then the arc of Faith #0 and Unity #12-14, this is completely skippable but if you like Harbinger you should read Faith #0
and then Imperium is act 2 of the story
And there's also a one-shot called Book of Death: The Fall of Harbinger which is set in 2183 and is the ending to the Pete/Harada story
>>79739354 Fat people are actually dangerous. There is a reason they aren't accepted into the military, police, or fire department.
We may be strangers to one another. But in the face of crisis we are meant to be able to rely on eachother. But you can't really rely on fat people. They are liabilities than int he face of crisis can't help but rely on others, putting everyone else but themselves at risk without contributing.
They are broken cogs in a clockwork. Fat shaming is very natural. It's disrespectful not just to yourself, your ancestors, and potential offspring. But it's also disrespectful to everyone else around you.
>>79739429 That's not necessarily true; not all people pay the same amount of taxes and protected classes or incredibly low earning tax brackets get considerable tax breaks.
In America, although women are roughly 50% of the workforce, men still tend to pay a larger percentage of taxes because they tend to earn a bit more overall. (i.e. There's more men in higher paying but riskier than jobs than women etc.) Women tend to use social services much more frequently than men and the average woman also tends to go to the doctor much more frequently than the average man which is more expensive when going the route of socialized healthcare.
There's a popular argument here that people tend to use when talking about public services like healthcare, free contraceptives for women, and abortion among other things : why should I put my tax dollars into 'x' when I'm not benefiting from it or, alternatively, why should I put my tax dollars into 'y' if I don't believe in it.
Other people will pay more taxes for obese people who can't work because of their weight and require extensive medical aid because of their weight for something that they've essentially done to themselves?
I personally do not agree with the argument when it comes to abortion, free contraceptives,free post-secondary education and most other socialist ideas but it should be noted that a legitimate argument can be made against the morbidly obese.
>>79739363 Marvel characters popularity in media today has very little to do with the characters themselves. Comic movies sell because of nerd cred for casuals and because little kids think it's cool. Comic book readers are still in the minority as are casual viewers that actively purchase comics for the character themselves.
I still don't get the response here to the character, she's been around since the 90's. The only amusing aspect is comparing what was fat then, to what is considered fat now. Faith in the 90's is the new normal.
WAH WAAAAH THIS MINORITY OPINION FROM A NICHE WEBSITE IS RUINING THE WORLD! WAAAAAH!
Please end your fucking life you meme spewing cunt. The fact that you're so dense that you think anything posted in the OP means shit to more than .5% of the population tells me your horrifyingly insulated in this shit cocoon of extreme viewpoints and bad opinions. Fuck off from the internet for awhile and realize that virtually nobody cares about these dumb non-issues outside of this shithole.
>>79741749 Yep. You totally can and that's why a lot of people use that argument for whatever floats their boat but paying for obese people is a whole other animal compared to talking about U.S. Defence Spending.
The whole military industrial complex employs millions of Americans and the 100 odd foreign bases around the world, which is a big part of America's military presence and power, will not maintain itself.
I feel like that's a fall equivalence to what we're talking about in this thread.
>>79739341 Because it is not your damn concern if they are, neither is what they are doing with their bodies. Passive smoker is literally poisoning you. Fat guy doesnt. Healthy lifestyle though should be advertised always.
>>79744503 >Some people are spreading info about cyanide to be healthy why do you want to stop them? :) 1.-It's a harmful though for society 2.-Increases the expenses of healthcare And once keeps increasing 2, but sure fuck it all. The only thing that matters is to feel good with yourself, screw society and let's indulge all of us into a hedonistic life, nothing bad can happen.
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