>>creators admit they can't tell if fans hate them or love to hate them
>>fans inform that they do in fact just hate them
>>creators henceforth only bring them out to shit on them
Wish more shows would take criticism this constructively.
Sticking to my guns on this one. Candace sucks.
Hatred is actually a good guy if you pay attention to him after he's done being pathetic. He screws up all the time but barring Brock we never see another character as devoted to protecting the Ventures as he is.
Admittedly yes. He was pretty fly, parachuting down the scraper with Brock, but St. Cloud is still superior. His gay smugness and obsession with getting on billy's nerves is hilarious.
"Crazy conspiracy guy" is such a fun concept, but it seems like it's hard for people to make it funny in execution.
I'd say this character type is way better for a secondary character who gets pulled into the plot, but Ronaldo either gets more focus than his character can carry, or he just pops up on the sidelines without getting involved in a very clever way. Feels like wasted potential.
not as hate-able as the moppets or st cloud but he gets way too much screen time for how useless a character he is
>kept an entire pirate ship full of guys alive on the high seas of the hot sargasm for years
Just because he's a junkie doesn't mean he's a bad character.
In fact, I go so far as to say that he's actually one of the most reliably useful characters in the show, provided he's off the darts.
I don't know, the great thing about venture bros is how they turn useless characters into really important or dimensional ones.
So if there's a character thats pretty universally disliked, I'm pretty sure they'll either find a way to make him or her more interesting or just write them out
>Characters failing to do things is the entire point of the show.
>hurr durr I take the idea of "theme" too far
Characters on The Venture Bros have been successful at a lot of things. Even if failure is "the entire point of the show" (it's not, it's a THEME) it doesn't mean all the characters fail at everything all the time.
And it especially has nothing to do with The Monarch sounding like a nerd and acting like a nerd and his "I'm going to cut you up and feed you to the dogs" threat sounding hollow and non-threatening.
Venture Brothers has great banter, but after watching a bunch of it I'm kind of tired of them just bantering about semi to obscure Pop culture references.
And I can't be the only one who doesn't get a majority of the obscure pop culture references in VB, right? Like when billy and white talk I can't understand much of anything they're talking about
There really isn't any truly bad character. Hell, even that bff of Triana's wasn't too bad, she just got waifu'd hard by faggots and they sperged all over the creators who just said "Fuck your waifu, she's a christfag now and probably taking it in the missionary position!"
>Hell, even that bff of Triana's wasn't too bad, she just got waifu'd hard by faggots and they sperged all over the creators who just said "Fuck your waifu, she's a christfag now and probably taking it in the missionary position!"
What are you even talking about?
Kim, the chick from the double-date episode in season 2.
She was seemingly set up to become a villain, likely to target annoying boys like Hank and Dean, but nothing came of it. The creators pretty much wrote her as a one-off character.
But, waifufags gotta fag, and they nagged to hell and back for Kim's return that in like season 4 or whatever, Triana offhandedly says "She's a born again Christian" and that was that.
Oh okay I couldn't tell if you meant her boyfriend or Kim and neither made sense to me because I didn't remember the born again Christian line til now. Yeah I was excited to see more of her and she was hot but I thought that line was funny.
Cool. Much respect to the writers/producers/creators who kick waifufaggots in the balls. Really hate waifufags and they deserve to be denied anything good.
Waifufags and shippers are truly annoying. Especially now in the era of social media websites where they can harass staff that work in comics, movies, cartoons, videogames, etc.
I think Ron gradually came into his own, though it would have been nice had he more properly peaked before the movie. They kept having him beat down Monkey Fist, and yet that didn't pay off until the borderline deus ex moment in the series finale
They seemed to hit different notes with people. Some found them just plain creepy, like some of the characters in the show. Others thought they were annoying, Mini-Me clones. And there were those who were just indifferent to them but still laughed at most of the jokes involving them.
Dr. Henry Killinger
just kidding, best side character
Reguardless, she's clearly endgame for hater, judging by the fact that her supersuit is basically a buff hater, id say as soon as hater stops being a desperate tryhard and ceases acting like a total dumbass, this will confirm itself.
I really hope you don't actually believe that
this is like in those ben10 threads where they claim they uglied her up so no one would fap to her anymore, absolutely retarded
Okay one, calm down and don't throw a tantrum
and two, it was a- >>79755252
yeah pretty much this, a one time gig, they had no intentions of keeping her on the cast and subsequently wrote her off
not because you got your dick hard at the sight of her and they somehow have an agenda against your erections
>I-I'm not a fan! I'm just defending and calling you names because I feel like it!
Oh come on man don't be so transparent
Also there's nothing directly said they changed it because of waifuism, so it looks like we're at an impasse
You can keep saying I'm a fan, but you're wrong. You're not me, I decide if I'm a fan of the character, not you.
And there's nothing directly saying they wrote her as a one-off. Seeing as how St. Cloud of all people returned after dozens of episode, so yea.
Actually, it went that she became preppy, got in to coke and THEN became a born-again Christian in Florida.
I'll be honest, that makes me want to see her way more than a villain Triana.
If you say so man, whatever,
and if we're grasping straws now, what about when the Cleaner showed up for that one episode and then we never saw em again.
There's no point to this, they probably didn't have enough time to fit a story about her in when they were doing it , who cares.
The point was just that she was written off to piss off the obnoxious fans who kept nagging the makers. Seriously, where does pointing that out make the person saying it themselves an obsessive fanboy?
According to forum posts, people cite the creators as hating her. Though it's also been said they largely forgot about her, but got nagged by people wanting follow up from the date episode
I think Bill is worse
so many chances of redemption
so many chances of being happy but no
he fucks over his best friend nearly all the time
and sometimes he does it on purpose.
I honestly didn't mind her much early on. In season 1, she was fairly level-headed, even more right than Hank on at least a few occasions. Then, they just made her a full on idiot, and only made her worse from there.
Even when they try to make her a bit sympathetic by changing her mother into an overcritical ranch owner, she still comes off as entitled and arrogant with how she thinks her woes mean all other issues have to be put on hold
Just about everyone Hank knew has betrayed him at least once. Hell, I think Boomhaur is the only one who never really did anything to screw Hank over. Dale's done at least 4 things to try and ruin Hank, and of course Buck has thrown him under the bus more than once
He can still be a bit annoying, but it's nice that despite this somewhat douchey appearance, he sticks with Hank and Dean when most people like him would drop others without a second thought
I think a big part of why people hate is because of Rising Tides/Crashing Skies, which because of the title was expected to be a plot heavy 2-parter, but was a comedic ep. about him.
I am sure i did!
They have a tendency to not market their references and instead write about what they themselves enjoy and partake in.
I find it the most endearing part of the show, as well as acknowledge its a large part of why its not very popular.
Well that, and it makes sense for Doc and Brock to be talking about shit that would go over the heads of even some 30-something year olds. Sure, there are people from the mid-late 80s who know about shit from the 60s or earlier, but it's not unheard of for many 80s kids to be more familiar with stuff strictly from their time and on