Characters you hate in shows you love

>>79736395
>>creators admit they can't tell if fans hate them or love to hate them
>>fans inform that they do in fact just hate them
>>creators henceforth only bring them out to shit on them
Wish more shows would take criticism this constructively.

>>79737255
the moppets were great

i just hated how they were legit badass but took orders from the monarch

>>79736395
I love to hate them.

They are a little more competent and treatning than a regular mook, but still bellow the main cast.>>79737274

Lars,that fucking shithead

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>>79739132
pic also related (but debatable)

>>79739027
Shit taste.

>>79739027
what show is this from?

>>79736395
St. Cloud is way more hateable.

>>79740492
St Cloud is somebody you like to hate though. The moppets you just regular hated.

Also they really weren't that funny. I think their best episode was the Rusty Venture Camp one.

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>>79740492
>St. Cloud
>Not Hatred
end yourself

>>79740097
Come on, Ronaldo is a parody of obsessive fans that miss the whole point. He's one of us.

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Sticking to my guns on this one. Candace sucks.

>>79740440
Posey from Mission Hill, and whoever posted her is a shithead.

>>79740584
Hatred is actually a good guy if you pay attention to him after he's done being pathetic. He screws up all the time but barring Brock we never see another character as devoted to protecting the Ventures as he is.

>>79740595
>He's one of us.

That's probably why he's so hated.

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Fuck this thirsty ass bitch

>>79740569
I dunno their best moments tend to be when they're not infallible badasses and when they get their comeuppence.

Hench has Killed Hench.

>>79737274
He threatened to butcher them both and feed them to the neighborhood dogs if they EVER tried to give him an order.

The Monarch can be scary when he wants to be.

>>79740492
HENRIETTA PUSSYCAT

>>79740995
Admittedly yes. He was pretty fly, parachuting down the scraper with Brock, but St. Cloud is still superior. His gay smugness and obsession with getting on billy's nerves is hilarious.

>>79736729
Seconded. Also fuck his Gary Stu rat.

>>79740097
"Crazy conspiracy guy" is such a fun concept, but it seems like it's hard for people to make it funny in execution.
I'd say this character type is way better for a secondary character who gets pulled into the plot, but Ronaldo either gets more focus than his character can carry, or he just pops up on the sidelines without getting involved in a very clever way. Feels like wasted potential.

>>79744643
I agree, but please don't summon him.

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>>79744643
I can hear him coming...

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not as hate-able as the moppets or st cloud but he gets way too much screen time for how useless a character he is

>>79746924
I think he's funny and, this season, he's been shown as the only person capable of running Ventech industries.

>>79736395
WIth a Noife

>>79744722
>>79744762
W-who

>>79747633
YO MOMMA

>>79740492
>hating St. Cloud
>not eating the pennies

>>79741305
I didn't buy that. It was like a nerd reciting the "gorilla warfare" copypasta. He didn't sound threatening to me. I think he should have just killed them then and there.

>>79748578

Then you don't know the Monarch, because he can be cold blooded when he wants to be

>>79746924

>kept an entire pirate ship full of guys alive on the high seas of the hot sargasm for years
>useless

Just because he's a junkie doesn't mean he's a bad character.

In fact, I go so far as to say that he's actually one of the most reliably useful characters in the show, provided he's off the darts.

>>79746924
I don't know, the great thing about venture bros is how they turn useless characters into really important or dimensional ones.
Like Dermont
So if there's a character thats pretty universally disliked, I'm pretty sure they'll either find a way to make him or her more interesting or just write them out

>>79748578

It's Venture Bros you thickheaded fuck.

Characters failing to do things is the entire point of the show.

>>79740595
>He's a parody!
>Yeah, but is he funny? What do you call an unfunny 'funny' character?

>>79750076
>le only failure meme
even jackhammer is sick of this shit, stop it

>>79750076
>Characters failing to do things is the entire point of the show.
>hurr durr I take the idea of "theme" too far
Characters on The Venture Bros have been successful at a lot of things. Even if failure is "the entire point of the show" (it's not, it's a THEME) it doesn't mean all the characters fail at everything all the time.

And it especially has nothing to do with The Monarch sounding like a nerd and acting like a nerd and his "I'm going to cut you up and feed you to the dogs" threat sounding hollow and non-threatening.

>>79750076

WAS.

Christ alive, do people just not pay attention to the fact that dozens of characters in the show have fucking improved their lives?

>>79750076
>>79750164
>>79750166
>>79750180
EVERY
THREAD

>>79740492
I found Zero even worse honestly. His entire character just screamed "trying too hard".

>>79750226

Oh, what? You were "pretending to be retarded" or some shit? Go fuck yourself

>>79750346
We have these posts every thread

>>79750374

And we call those people idiots every time they keep pushing the failure them

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Venture Brothers has great banter, but after watching a bunch of it I'm kind of tired of them just bantering about semi to obscure Pop culture references.
And I can't be the only one who doesn't get a majority of the obscure pop culture references in VB, right? Like when billy and white talk I can't understand much of anything they're talking about

>>79736674
Shit taste. Tobias is a fun character.

>>79750638
Let me guess. You're under 35 aren't you?

>>79742711
I can see why people hates her but really i can't bring myself to do it

Anyway so far she is a lot of wasted potential.being basically Hater R63

>>79736395
YER A BUM, ROCK

>>79750782
>I can see why people hates her but really i can't bring myself to do it
That's waifuism for you.

>>79750241
Wasn't that the point?

>>79746924
Totally agree. I feel the same way about Vatred.

>>79750241
I think that was the point of the character though, wasn't it?

>>79750241
That's because it was on purpose. Jesus, how do you not get that?

>>79740492
No. The Moppets were worse.

>>79750915
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>>79751017
I know it's the point, but he still sucked.

>>79750638
I'm with you my man.

>>79751047

They fucking funny as hell, stay wrong

>>79737274
I actually loved that they spent how many seasons working behind the Monarch's back only to have him lose his patience with their shit and immediately snap back in line.

>>79740492
St. Cloud redeemed the hell out of himself this last episode. He's great once in a while for a villain who just absolutely does not take anything but his bottom line seriously.

I just plain like the moppets.
The only character i feel that is unhealthy for the show is sgt. hatred, and even then he's not that bad

>>79751288

There really isn't any truly bad character. Hell, even that bff of Triana's wasn't too bad, she just got waifu'd hard by faggots and they sperged all over the creators who just said "Fuck your waifu, she's a christfag now and probably taking it in the missionary position!"

>>79751371
>Hell, even that bff of Triana's wasn't too bad, she just got waifu'd hard by faggots and they sperged all over the creators who just said "Fuck your waifu, she's a christfag now and probably taking it in the missionary position!"
What are you even talking about?

>>79751452

Kim, the chick from the double-date episode in season 2.

She was seemingly set up to become a villain, likely to target annoying boys like Hank and Dean, but nothing came of it. The creators pretty much wrote her as a one-off character.

But, waifufags gotta fag, and they nagged to hell and back for Kim's return that in like season 4 or whatever, Triana offhandedly says "She's a born again Christian" and that was that.

>>79750785
That gets me every time

>>79751542
Oh okay I couldn't tell if you meant her boyfriend or Kim and neither made sense to me because I didn't remember the born again Christian line til now. Yeah I was excited to see more of her and she was hot but I thought that line was funny.

>>79751542
Cool. Much respect to the writers/producers/creators who kick waifufaggots in the balls. Really hate waifufags and they deserve to be denied anything good.

Waifufags and shippers are truly annoying. Especially now in the era of social media websites where they can harass staff that work in comics, movies, cartoons, videogames, etc.

>>79741044
Well, at least Zed's pretty.

>>79751612

Well I did say BFF

>>79751626

Still a bit unfair to the character, who could have been fun to see return. But I guess it could be called a "noble sacrifice" if anything

>>79751626
And this is why you will always be alone and no waifu will ever love you.

>>79736729

I think Ron gradually came into his own, though it would have been nice had he more properly peaked before the movie. They kept having him beat down Monkey Fist, and yet that didn't pay off until the borderline deus ex moment in the series finale

>>79736395
Isn't hating them the entire point of those two?

>>79752070

They seemed to hit different notes with people. Some found them just plain creepy, like some of the characters in the show. Others thought they were annoying, Mini-Me clones. And there were those who were just indifferent to them but still laughed at most of the jokes involving them.

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seriously did anyone like kitty in this?

>>79752665

Hey, she was cute

>>79752665
Spyke was even worse

>>79752665
my dick did

>>79750724
I'm 20 and I get most of it.

>>79753448

He did kind of get better once he turned into an armadillo.

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>>79736395
Dr. Henry Killinger

just kidding, best side character

>>79750785

>Go for it!
>Why the fuck are you Rocky?!
>You said you were going to be Drago
>DROGO! Khal Drogo!

Though I never cared for that GoT crap, I fucking loved that entire scene

>>79739027
>Hating any of the characters from Mission Hill
Didn't know it was possible.

>>79739027

But she's one of the few instances of a hot, likeable hippie girl in any form of media

>>79750874
>>79750782
Reguardless, she's clearly endgame for hater, judging by the fact that her supersuit is basically a buff hater, id say as soon as hater stops being a desperate tryhard and ceases acting like a total dumbass, this will confirm itself.

>>79753667
Wasn't that the point he stopped being part of the main cast?

>>79754739

Even before that, he was really just "Storm's nephew"

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>>79751371
I really hope you don't actually believe that


this is like in those ben10 threads where they claim they uglied her up so no one would fap to her anymore, absolutely retarded

>>79754921

Then, prey tell us, OH GREAT ONE, what was the real reason?

Fucking cunt

>>79751371
>>79751542
she was a non-character

that villain bit was just a joke because of how she dresses

>>79739027
I literally remember nothing of this show but "You ever deal with MTV?"

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>>79755142
Okay one, calm down and don't throw a tantrum

and two, it was a- >>79755252
yeah pretty much this, a one time gig, they had no intentions of keeping her on the cast and subsequently wrote her off

not because you got your dick hard at the sight of her and they somehow have an agenda against your erections

>>79755339

I didn't even imply I was one of the fans for her, you fucking retard. And no, nothing directly said they only made her for just the one episode. Nice bullshit

>>79737274
Moppets pls go

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>>79755378
>I-I'm not a fan! I'm just defending and calling you names because I feel like it!

Oh come on man don't be so transparent

Also there's nothing directly said they changed it because of waifuism, so it looks like we're at an impasse

>>79740097
Fuck you. Ronaldo's hysterical.

I feel like /co/ hates him is because he reminds them of themselves. And not in a good way.

>>79755469

You can keep saying I'm a fan, but you're wrong. You're not me, I decide if I'm a fan of the character, not you.

And there's nothing directly saying they wrote her as a one-off. Seeing as how St. Cloud of all people returned after dozens of episode, so yea.

>>79751542
Actually, it went that she became preppy, got in to coke and THEN became a born-again Christian in Florida.

I'll be honest, that makes me want to see her way more than a villain Triana.

>>79755533
If you say so man, whatever,


and if we're grasping straws now, what about when the Cleaner showed up for that one episode and then we never saw em again.

There's no point to this, they probably didn't have enough time to fit a story about her in when they were doing it , who cares.

>>79755688

The point was just that she was written off to piss off the obnoxious fans who kept nagging the makers. Seriously, where does pointing that out make the person saying it themselves an obsessive fanboy?

>>79755750
It just felt kind of petty is all

Also do you have any proof of the fans actually nagging the directors

>>79755781

Petty how? Reciting something that's been stated is hardly petty, unless you mean the maker's actions. Though in that case, it's their shit to do with as they please

>>79755836
mostly just still hoping for a link or something detailing that they actually state they did it to irk the fans honestly

>>79755892

According to forum posts, people cite the creators as hating her. Though it's also been said they largely forgot about her, but got nagged by people wanting follow up from the date episode

>>79756000
I can see it happening,

Feels like what happened to that one sister character in Gumball

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Obvious hate....

>>79750724
I'm 27 and many of the pop culture jokes are lost on me
But I never watched a lot of movies other people my age watched, so take that for what it is

>>79756133

Not like it's unusual. Forget what show it was, but I recall something fairly recent killing off a character because the fans were just getting downright unbearable

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>>79756172
I think Bill is worse
so many chances of redemption
so many chances of being happy but no
he fucks over his best friend nearly all the time
and sometimes he does it on purpose.
PIC
FUCKING RELATED

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>>79756172

I honestly didn't mind her much early on. In season 1, she was fairly level-headed, even more right than Hank on at least a few occasions. Then, they just made her a full on idiot, and only made her worse from there.

Even when they try to make her a bit sympathetic by changing her mother into an overcritical ranch owner, she still comes off as entitled and arrogant with how she thinks her woes mean all other issues have to be put on hold

>>79756271

Just about everyone Hank knew has betrayed him at least once. Hell, I think Boomhaur is the only one who never really did anything to screw Hank over. Dale's done at least 4 things to try and ruin Hank, and of course Buck has thrown him under the bus more than once

>>79756417
I think the most abrasive moment between Hank and Boomhaur was when Boomhaur's brother was getting married

>>79756477

Well to be fair, Hank assumed Boomhaur was being childish since nobody else had quite realized Boomhaur's bro was kind of a prick

>>79750060
I love what they did with Dermott. He went from being one of the most obnoxious pieces of shit to a really cool character.

>>79756632

He can still be a bit annoying, but it's nice that despite this somewhat douchey appearance, he sticks with Hank and Dean when most people like him would drop others without a second thought

>>79750638
I don't get a lot of them but I still love the show and Billy/Pete episodes because those characters are fucking top tier no matter what they're talking about

>>79740097
I think a big part of why people hate is because of Rising Tides/Crashing Skies, which because of the title was expected to be a plot heavy 2-parter, but was a comedic ep. about him.

>>79756629
Absolutely
It has been a while since I've need the episode so I forgot the details

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>>79752665
I am sure i did!

>>79750638
They have a tendency to not market their references and instead write about what they themselves enjoy and partake in.
I find it the most endearing part of the show, as well as acknowledge its a large part of why its not very popular.

>>79757568

Well that, and it makes sense for Doc and Brock to be talking about shit that would go over the heads of even some 30-something year olds. Sure, there are people from the mid-late 80s who know about shit from the 60s or earlier, but it's not unheard of for many 80s kids to be more familiar with stuff strictly from their time and on