What seasons did the Simpsons get REALLY bad?
I always hear like around 10-12 but pic related is my favorite episode and from season 19.
The objective mark of old simpsons/new simpsons is Phil Hartman getting murdered. Not only did that radically change the way the simpsons was written but it affected comedy for years afterwards.
S10 up to the movie was a shell of it's former self but still tolerable
After the movie the writers realized most of their original fanbase was gone and decided to cram as many celebrity guest stars and modern pop culture references to please the millennial audience. Most of the episodes aired become horribly outdated in just a matter of years
So around Season 19
This. Season 9 is the last DVD set I bought.
I tried to keep going but couldn't stand it. If I had to declare an absolute drop point, I say I consider Behind the Laughter, last ep of S11, as the series finale.
After the movie is when it really beyond a shadow of a doubt became Zombie Simpsons.
>If I had to declare an absolute drop point, I say I consider Behind the Laughter, last ep of S11, as the series finale.
The absolute peak of the Golden Era, in my personal opinion, is probably Seasons 2 through about 9.
10 through 14 or 15 is still watchable, at least for me, but the closer you get to 15 the harder and harder it becomes. Anything beyond that point is painful, unbearable trash. it's like watching your beloved childhood dog or cat dragging their half-dead sick disease-riddled body around because your mom doesn't have the heart to put the poor thing down.
The current look of the show (ugly, stiff, overly bright, hideous designs on newer characters and guest stars) the humour, the shameless parade of celebrities.....it's just a bloated corpse of its former self.
It's sad, /co/. It's so very very sad.
BTL is really just a pretty average Zombie Simpsons episode with nothing remarkable about it, but some autists on /co/ started a meme that it was actually a good episode and they then pretend it was the series finale.
are we not ripping the shit into OP for his fav simpsons episode being this
the one that shits on a lot of really touching marge/homer relationship canon from the good seasons
i know talking about canon in a floating timeline cartoon is daft but man when's it going to end? when they decide to do another family flashback episode showing lisa's birth in 2008 or some shit?
some of the grunge jokes in the episode were decent, "guitar rock utilising nihilistic grunge energy" is an alright gag, but...
not muh simpsons, man
This was a better ship than pairing her with Loserhouse desu.
It's a fine episode. It'd have been a decent stopping point.
Season 11 is pretty mediocre, 12 is grade-A crap though.
10-12 are the true decline.
Most people did. It's why season 17 was the last one to get a DVD release. They just weren't selling.
No because everyone here knows it's bait.
This was the episode that made me stop watching honestly. I was just watching the show for the sake of watching it. I was so happy to have have dropped it here.
Did the writers ever apologize on the DVD commentaries for unleashing this cancer on us since the sets should have gotten up to that episode.
>What seasons did the Simpsons get REALLY bad?
How do we have this thread so often and nobody ever starts the thread with their own opinion or at least having read the previous 9001 threads?
personally I think season 15 is when it happened, season 14 still had a couple good episodes,
and not just cause of the two Marge fetish fuel episodes, even if I do really like those ones
my comrade of exquisite taste
Yea. By his cunt of a wife.
On the evening of May 27, 1998, after returning home, Brynn started a "heated" argument [as women usually do] with her husband, who threatened to leave her if she started using drugs again, after which he then went to bed, a fatal mistake.
While Hartman slept, Brynn entered his bedroom shortly before 3 a.m. on May 28 with a .38 caliber handgun and fatally shot him twice in the head and once in his side. She was intoxicated and had recently taken cocaine.
The cunt drove to the home of her friend Ron Douglas and confessed to the killing, but he did not initially believe her because she was a pathological liar. The pair drove back to the house in separate cars, because Ron couldn't stand the sound of her shrill voice constantly bitching after which Brynn called another friend and confessed a second time. Upon seeing Hartman's body, Douglas called 911 at 6:20 a.m. Police subsequently arrived and escorted Douglas and the Hartmans' two children from the premises, by which time Brynn had locked herself in the bedroom and ann hiroed by shooting herself in the head.
Good riddance I say. Too bad she didn't shoot herself 4 hours earlier or ODed before she shot him. Phil Hartman was a hilarious and kind man whose only mistake was falling for a psycho cunt.
As for the Simpsons, I haven't stopped watching despite not truly enjoying it since 2002 or 3 I'd say. Even then I knew it either had to end or would become something awful. Sadly I knew how television worked and knew it would never end.
I only watch because it's something to watch. Just like FG.
It's a really depressing story too.
>On the evening of May 27, 1998, Brynn Hartman visited the Italian restaurant Buca di Beppo in Encino, California, with producer and writer Christine Zander, who said she was "in a good frame of mind." After returning to the couple's nearby home, Brynn started a "heated" argument with her husband, who threatened to leave her if she started using drugs again, after which he then went to bed. While Hartman slept, Brynn entered his bedroom shortly before 3 a.m. on May 28 with a .38 caliber handgun and fatally shot him twice in the head and once in his side. She was intoxicated and had recently taken cocaine.
>Brynn drove to the home of her friend Ron Douglas and confessed to the killing, but he did not initially believe her. The pair drove back to the house in separate cars, after which Brynn called another friend and confessed a second time. Upon seeing Hartman's body, Douglas called 911 at 6:20 a.m. Police subsequently arrived and escorted Douglas and the Hartmans' two children from the premises, by which time Brynn had locked herself in the bedroom and committed suicide by shooting herself in the head.
Yeah,but he deserves the hate
>In early 2007, Dick approached Lovitz at a restaurant and said "I put the Phil Hartman hex on you - you're the next to die." At the Laugh Factory, Lovitz demanded an apology from
Dick, who refused and accused the comic of blaming him for Hartman's death. Lovitz then smashed Dick's head into the bar.
> the millennial audience
> birth years ranging from the early 1980s to the early 2000s.
Why do people on 4chan hate millennials so much when 99% of people here are millennials ?
Andy Dick is one weird sick fuck. He once got kicked out of an award show for porn movies. Since those things are practically a no-holds-barred orgy anyway, you'd have to be an exceptionally creepy individual to get ejected from it.
That's not the worst. The worst was having an admitted child rapist guest star on the show.
Phil Hartman dying was a big part of it. Another was Simpsons capital leaving for or splitting time between Futurama. Most notably David X. Cohen and Matt Groening.
Season 10 was pretty meh due to resource splitting and by 11 the brain drain was obvious. Even 9 was hit or miss but good enough overall, especially with the inclusion of "The City of New York vs. Homer Simpson".
While it never reached the peak of The Simpsons in my opinion, Futurama was the better show from the pilot until its demise. During Futurama's run, Simpsons ran at 33% steam or less.
For some reason BTL got all sorts of critic hype and even an Emmy. I thought it was shit. It took 16 years but apparently I found the other guy who also thought it was shit.
Flat jokes and a dated, gimmicky hook that wasn't strong enough to work without strong accompanying material, which the episode didn't have. They needed much more than "We're making fun of VH-1!" Hell, VH-1 was barely still relevant at the time they made the episode.
It kind of is the unofficial show finale but not because it's the last good episode or anything but because it was the shit cherry on top of 2-3 subpar seasons. At least that's my takeaway.
Regarding the hype over the episode I think by then viewers figured out that establishment critics were snowing them and were either out of touch and/or just had no idea how to evaluate television shows. They were raving about CSI and JAG at the time, too. LOL.
The term Millennial is used to describe people born between 1981ish and 2000ish. It's what used to be called "Generation Y."
If you're born after 2000ish, you're NOT a Millennial. If you're born after 1981ish, you ARE a Millennial. The real point of the name is that it's referring to people who either came into young adulthood around the new millennium or were children at the turn of the century. You could actually argue that teens born around 97-99 don't qualify.
That's perhaps the most infuriating part. People call teenagers Millennials, but they actually came AFTER the Millennials. YOU are the Millennials. I'm 26, that means I'm a Millennial. It would be like someone born in 1957 complaining about how Baby Boomers are evil social security leeches and calling people Baby Boomers as a derogatory term when they are one themselves.
I don't understand why people bash season 9. Sure, it was a new style, but the jokes came sharp and fast, the characterizations more competently done, and more of the gags hit the mark. For some reason, Mike Scully threw his baby off the fucking grand canyon in season 10.
Season 9 makes me feel good, like a comedy show should. Season 10, on the other hand, has a mediocre and shitty feel to it, the animation is fucking UGLY and stiff, and Homer has morphed into the worst character ever (unlike s9, where he was gradually changing but still lovable).
What happened? People will say it was Phil Hartman's death, but the episode "When you dish upon a star" was already made before he died, and that was one of the clear signs the show was dying.
>Most of the episodes have Homer going on zany adventures, meeting [insert celebrity guest star], whining constantly, and being all-around one of the worst characters on television
Season 10 was the equivalent of tossing your baby into the grand canyon and the rocks tearing it up