/co/ which comic art do you generally prefer?
left or right?
Left since the guys who graviate towards the right usually suck big time at basic stuff like perspective, anatomy, composition, emotion, body language and general logic behind the action as well as the choreography of it.
Since I doubt you meant fill this thread to max with art styles you like I will keep it to one.
Depends on the story, though OP makes it sounds as though those are the only two choices.
I'm sure that wasn't their intent though.
Honestly? I good balance between the two.
I like the left for more expression,animated approach, but I like the right for variety and attention to detail.
A good artist I can only think of at the moment who can do it well is Immonen. He takes a simplistic approach but makes it feel realistic as the right but still energetic as the left. Plus he's extremely versatile.
Nextwave is a good example of his versatility.
If you want to be that simplistic about it....
Left. But it's not about prefering only "minimalistic" styles. I love stylized realistic art, or even non-stylized in some cases. I just don't like house style.
House style is not there to be admired, just to serve the story, which is fine, but underwhelming when it comes to appreciating the art.
I like a mix of both, like McCarthy's or Ben Templesmith's art.
Both can be whimsical and cartoonish but also extremely detailed at the same time.
>I like Mike Allred but hate Darwyn Cooke
I feel the other way around. Darwyn Cooke is enjoyable if simplistic. Allred is plain annoying in trying to be the next Roy Lichtenstein.
Not to mention he never learned how to draw faces that don't look stupid or downright creepy.
Left, but I prefer guys like Kirby, J. Buscema and Ross Andru.
>Tony S. Daniel is the 99 cent store version of Marc Silvestri.
>Jason Fabok is the 99 cent store version of David Finch.
Fixed. (Not that Silvestri ot Finch are something to write home about either but - know your shit even if it's actual shit.) Plus:
>Ivan Reis is the 50 cent store version of Neal Adams.
Mignola is the objective GOAT.
I prefer left.
Francis Manapul is my favorite.
>passive aggressive "they must be newfags!" Post
>accusations of meme use
Either is fine, but just fine. Left is better overall.
Mignola is pretty top tier for creating distinctive silhouettes and striking usage of negative space. One of my favourites for sure.
But that's Guy Davis. Don't know him very well, but seems a'ight.
I've also always been incredibly found of Otomo, Herge, and Moebius. Beautiful linework, all.
My favorite artists include Tim Sale, Cameron Stewart, Lee Bermejo, Adam Hughes, and Yanick Paquette.
FWIW I like both Cooke and Fabok, though their styles belong with different kinds of stories.
I lean left, I generally more cartoonist and expressive artists to people who are just technically skilled. Some people are exceptions
>left makes a better comic because it's easier to draw so the artist can have more fun with it
That's such a non-statement you sound like you have a fucking porridge for brain. How's the amount of fun artist's having translates into the quality of comic? Who said it's the ultimate measure of comic's quality? How do you know it's easier to draw? How do you know Cooke has less fun drawing than Fabok?
>How's the amount of fun artist's having translates into the quality of comic?
Well a passion project will usually look better than work for a paycheck if the artists were comparable to begin with
The right gives out detail like it's candy -- the end result is that you can't put small nuggets into a given panel/splash because the eye is already being heavily drawn to a hundred different places.
With the left (or things leaning towards the left), you can play with detail as needed.
I dislike the new house style colorists, but otherwise I can tolerate the line art of either.
Cooke is better for style, but if you're not trying to tell a gold/silver age kind of story, he's not as appropriate,
>Cooke is better for style, but if you're not trying to tell a gold/silver age kind of story, he's not as appropriate,
But it works for his Parker adaptations, those are adapting crime novels.
I don't get how anyone can prefer the right. The stereotypical DC house style of Fabok, Syaf, EVS, Reis, and various Jim Lee clones is so fucking boring. It adds nothing to the comic. The art of a comic should convey the tone, direct the eye, dictate the pacing, etc. The style on the right offers none of that.
Thankfully, DC has been turning away from that style more and more. I can only think of a handful of books in their line that could be considered in that same vein.
The Gibbon looks so out of place on the far right
I don't like the transition between the first three panels. Facing forward -> back turned -> facing forward again. It's like they're stopping on the dime changing direction, it feels so abrupt, yet they're supposed to be running in a straight line. The last three panels are better.
I usually like Manapul, but I think that isn't the best example.
>Left is inspirational
>Right is edgy red eyes superman with anime inspired background
gee I wonder
I think he means the speed lines. I don't know how that got tagged as a "japanese" thing. Western animation used to never do it, while Anime overdoes it. I thought Western and Japanese comics both did it, though
Are you so blind that perspective eludes you entirely, or are you just stupid?
how can you be blind and use the internet?
Justice is amazing. What is this? Why I'm I replying to such an old comment.
Left, but that isn't really my favorite style either.
In general I just don't like house style, I don't really know why. Having said that, there are certain artists of that style whose work I like.
I like lines
I'm curious what are your 10 favourite comic artists, /co/?
Mine are Moebius, James Stokoe, Moritat, Ben Templesmith, Juan Jose Ryp, Brendan McCarthy, Doug Mahnke, Marcos Martin, Goran Parlov and Mignola.
he just slaps all the characters onto the page without any thought for how a reader should follow the action
you can't look at Kingdom Come's fights and tell me they're not a mess
He's top-tier on stuff like Marvels, since that's less actiony and his Norman Rockwell style really fits the tone of the story, but on action capes, he's just not good
I see you appreciate poorly drawn art, I bequeath to you this poorly drawn art of which I have recently come across.
no, it's legit bad, this pic of Sonic with emotion is perfectly fine.
this has lot's of emotion, it's great artwork
lot's of emotion in this one, looks just fine.
What kind of story exactly would you give to Fabok? I'm really curious about this answer.
A proper artist can handle all kinds of stories.
all the super powered heroes have been infected with a virus that's leeching their powers, to power a doomsday device.
half the non-powered heroes use The Atoms technology to shrink down and go inside their comrades to combat the virus while the rest try and stop the device itself.
Jesus Christ why was that guy big for like what? five years? What as anyone thinking?
> >Jason Fabok is the 99 cent store version of David Finch.
Except for the KEY fact that Fabok has absolutely none of Finch's flaws you fucking lair, he has surpassed him I'm every way.
> Finch's women today are ether hyper bimbo babes, 14 year old looking girls or what he is doing current with WW, which is OK but she has Skeleton arms.
While Fabok's WW right now is getting Universal praise outfit and body wise.
> Finch's faces are 80% pissed off looking grimaces.
Fabok has a good range of faces not a great one but a good range.
> Finch is EXTREMELY inconsistent between each and every project and during his JLA work was obviously using poser strongly (ironically his use of poser actually helped with his female characters as his Catwoman looked great in JLA)
Minus a few issues of the weekly Batman Eternal, I have never seen any work by Fabok that differs in quality on any genuinely notable level. And not a single page comes to mind that looked poser traced.
But their work isn't emotionless at all you lying little shit.
You just can't understand subtlety because your delusional mind can't read anything that isn't cartoony and exaggerated.
>grand, dark and epic like Darkseid War
This fucking board
Absolutely zero taste
Absolutely zero shame
Livin' the life
Astro City is something he's been doing with Busiek since its inception, he's still doing it because it's one of his own projects. He hates the current DC universe, though I'm sure if DC asked him if he'd do another Justice type story set in the old unvierse he'd probably consider it.
> Because the eye is already being heavily drawn to a hundred different places.
That is a extremely good thing.
I want to bask in a comic's depth and detail everytime I open one, Cooke Is so bare minimum and simple their is nothing to pull me into the page once much less on repeat viewings.
This ideal that you can't have a focal point if the entire page Is realistically detailed is fucking bullshit.
That's it for today. Thread closed.
>Ivan Reis is the 50 cent store version of Neal Adams
Everything modern I have seen from Neal Adams is violently erratic and unfinished looking in the extreme while Reis inked By Prado is consistently finished looking to the point of absolute prefection.
have you seen em?
apparently I really haven't much given how much WW ass I had to scroll by
What is shit/awful on any level about this?
What is in bad taste or shameful about enjoying stories about Gods and apocalyptic world changing events instead of soap opera day to day life events of generic ordinary people like the Acclaimed Hawkeye stuff (I'm not saying that it wasn't good, I'm saying having preferences towards ether story type is not wrong)
>ugly cubic proportions
What does this even mean?
Hank and Clops's features are completely different!
... I have no idea what to say to this, I see the exact opposite.
Couple of anons recommended me Eternity War once.
It's not that it's bland, it's just... they're running everywhere. Batman goes towards us, Aquaman goes right, Dinah and Ollie run to quickie in broom closet...
hmm good point.
I was thinking right looks better but i always hate the consistency of the art in the actual panels. Where as left always makes the characters feel alive but the aesthetic isn't as nice.
But you totally pinpointed why left better as a narrative medium.