/co/ which comic art do you generally prefer? left or right?

What if you don't prefer either?

>>79728756
Left since the guys who graviate towards the right usually suck big time at basic stuff like perspective, anatomy, composition, emotion, body language and general logic behind the action as well as the choreography of it.

I enjoy both

>>79728906

post what you like anon.

Left

>>79728906
but this kinda

>>79728756
Depends on the tone of the story.

tumblr vs actual comic art?

>>79728756

Left, by far.

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>>79728932
Since I doubt you meant fill this thread to max with art styles you like I will keep it to one.

>>79728756
right,

>>79728756
por que los dos?

>>79729002

Cool JRJR. I guess you like something in between.

Like both, but right

>>79728756
Depends on the book.

>>79728981
Back to /tv/ with you

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Depends on the story, though OP makes it sounds as though those are the only two choices.
I'm sure that wasn't their intent though.

>>79728981

animation-inspired art vs ugly house style

Right

left

>>79728756
Honestly? I good balance between the two.

I like the left for more expression,animated approach, but I like the right for variety and attention to detail.

A good artist I can only think of at the moment who can do it well is Immonen. He takes a simplistic approach but makes it feel realistic as the right but still energetic as the left. Plus he's extremely versatile.

Nextwave is a good example of his versatility.

>>79729188

Your example looks like it would be in the middle of OP's two choices.

>>79729188
That looks like shit

>>79729339
Elaborate

>>79729360
Oh okay.
It looks bad, and I don't like it.

>>79729527
What exactly do you not like? Great, clean storytelling, body and facial expressions, weight, background, colors - what's bad about it?

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>>79729283
If you want to be that simplistic about it....

>>79728756
Left but the stuff >>79728928 talks about matters more than style.

>>79728756
Just depends on the mood I'm in, I really love Darywn Cooke's art style but if we had that all the time it would get old.

>>79729256
>Immonen
There's nothing realistic nor energetic about his shit art. He's somehow even worse than a hack like Goran Parlov.

>>79729650
This is plain wrong.

Style and Reason trumps everything.

>>79728955

>>79729669
>memeposting

>>79729283
No, comic art is not a straight line between two fixed fucking points. Things don't stand "in between" anything.

Left. But it's not about prefering only "minimalistic" styles. I love stylized realistic art, or even non-stylized in some cases. I just don't like house style.

House style is not there to be admired, just to serve the story, which is fine, but underwhelming when it comes to appreciating the art.

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I like a mix of both, like McCarthy's or Ben Templesmith's art.
Both can be whimsical and cartoonish but also extremely detailed at the same time.

>>79729731
Maybe you should stop being so literal

Both styles have good artists and shitty ones.

I like Ivan Reis but hate Jim Lee
I like Mike Allred but hate Darwyn Cooke

>>79729728
What memes did I use?
I just don't like Stuart Immonen and his awful art. Deal with it.

>>79729856
>I like Mike Allred but hate Darwyn Cooke
I feel the other way around. Darwyn Cooke is enjoyable if simplistic. Allred is plain annoying in trying to be the next Roy Lichtenstein.

Not to mention he never learned how to draw faces that don't look stupid or downright creepy.

>>79729669
>Nothing realistic nor energetic
Have you not read Superman: Secret Identity?

>>79729863
Don't be so defensive.

>>79729686
Explain why. Because I don't see the point in hyper detailed styles if they don't have any dynamism or sense of movement as a result of that detail.

>>79729863
The fuck is wrong with you?

Granted he's not my personal favorite but the dude's work is solidly baller.

>>79730053
Are you sure you are responding to the correct post? Because nothing I am talking about requires anything hyper detailed or lacking dynamism or movement.

but there's more than two artstyles

the one on the left has Snapper Carr so that.

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>>79728981
>Darwyn Cooke
>tumblr

>>79728756
The right, but the a mix between the two are fine.

>>79728756
I like having both. Variety, faggot.

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Left, but I prefer guys like Kirby, J. Buscema and Ross Andru.

>>79728756

Right but I prefer the attitude of the left

>>79729643
what book is this from?

>>79729989
>>79729856

Mike Allred is the 99 cent store version of Darwyn Cooke.

Tony S. Daniel is the 99 cent store version of Jim Lee.

Jason Fabok is the 99 cent store version of Ivan Reis.

>>79730505
flip the first one

second one is right

throw both the bottom two out.

>>79730474
I know the story is called Birthday Boy but I forget the specific issue
Looked it up Amazing Spider-man: Extra! # 2

>>79730585
thank you

>>79728756
Right for ongoing or house style.

Left is good but it would get old quick.

>>79729624
I don't like how it looks like shit.

>>79728756
Left

>>79728906
That wasn't the question namefag

Right is so unpleasant to look at.
Paolo Rivera is a good artist who draws highly-detailed to look at, this garbage is not.

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>>79728756
neither

>>79730505
>Tony S. Daniel is the 99 cent store version of Marc Silvestri.
>Jason Fabok is the 99 cent store version of David Finch.

Fixed. (Not that Silvestri ot Finch are something to write home about either but - know your shit even if it's actual shit.) Plus:

>Ivan Reis is the 50 cent store version of Neal Adams.

>>79730692
*who draws highly-detailed stuff

I generally prefer styles that lean more towards the cartoony end of the spectrum. I think they do a better job of conveying movement and emotion.

>>79730714
>>79730571
>>79730505
You all just sound so stupid.

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>>79730704
>Alex Ross

>>79730704
>wanting Ross on comic art
>ever
He's only good for covers or pin-ups.

>>79730741
Don't be upset at the 99 cent store shoppers

>>79730756
He can't compose for shit though

Assuming both are well done I favor art closer to the left, but really it depends on the artist. I like Fabok too.

>>79728756
I like both

>>79730704
Batman always looks so weird standing around in broad daylight.

>>79730704

Alex Ross always looks like a bunch of wax statues to me.

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>>79728756
Mignola is the objective GOAT.

>>79730749
>>79730756
>>79730914
Neo-/co/ hates Alex Ross.

Is this an epic new meme you guys brought over from tumblr or something?

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>>79730960
That's Guy Davis,

>>79730985
>Is this an epic new meme you guys brought
Was taste a meme at the old-/co/?

>>79730985
The only people who like him are casuals whose only experience with him on interiors is Kingdom Come

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>>79728756

I prefer left.

Francis Manapul is my favorite.

>>79730985
le silver age nostalgia man can paint pretty but he's a shitty comic book artist

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>>79730985
>passive aggressive "they must be newfags!" Post
>accusations of meme use

>>79730985
Not as epic a meme as your tumblr meme.

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>>79728756
Either is fine, but just fine. Left is better overall.

>>79730960

Mignola is pretty top tier for creating distinctive silhouettes and striking usage of negative space. One of my favourites for sure.

But that's Guy Davis. Don't know him very well, but seems a'ight.

I've also always been incredibly found of Otomo, Herge, and Moebius. Beautiful linework, all.

>>79730608
Read it, it manages to be a really good Spider-Man story and really good Wolverine story at the same time.

>>79730756
Kingdom come, Justice, Thy kingdom come. Anon you are on the edge of co illiteracy.

>>79731512
He didn't do the art for Thy Kingdom Come.

>>79728756
Left, I guess. I'd take Mazzucchelli over both of them though

>>79731512
I sure love dull plastic-looking comic art with zero dynamics or emotion in it.

>>79731544
He co-illustrated it with Dale Eaglesham.

>>79728906
>given two options
>none
>does not presseda third

Fucking retard.

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>>79728756

My favorite artists include Tim Sale, Cameron Stewart, Lee Bermejo, Adam Hughes, and Yanick Paquette.

FWIW I like both Cooke and Fabok, though their styles belong with different kinds of stories.

Left. Keep It Simple Stupid. And fuck every modern capeshitter looking like Abercrombie clones.

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I lean left, I generally more cartoonist and expressive artists to people who are just technically skilled. Some people are exceptions

>>79732113
He looks like a couch with a head

>>79728756
Right makes a better poster or pin-up, left makes a better comic because it's easier to draw so the artist can have more fun with it. Prove me wrong.

>>79729643
Why does Spidey look so mad?

>>79730457
Kek, in the third panel, it looks like Gwen hit her head.

Who drew the right one? Reis?

Also left, because the costumes aren't dogshit like the ones on the right

>>79732274
>left makes a better comic because it's easier to draw so the artist can have more fun with it
That's such a non-statement you sound like you have a fucking porridge for brain. How's the amount of fun artist's having translates into the quality of comic? Who said it's the ultimate measure of comic's quality? How do you know it's easier to draw? How do you know Cooke has less fun drawing than Fabok?

>>79732440
>How's the amount of fun artist's having translates into the quality of comic?

Well a passion project will usually look better than work for a paycheck if the artists were comparable to begin with

Left.

The right gives out detail like it's candy -- the end result is that you can't put small nuggets into a given panel/splash because the eye is already being heavily drawn to a hundred different places.

With the left (or things leaning towards the left), you can play with detail as needed.

>>79732367
>Who drew the right one? Reis?
Fabok

>>79732316
Wolverine called him over like it was an emergency just so he could have someone watch him get drunk.

>>79731067
muh nigga.webm

>>79728756
Right

>>79728756
I'd need to see the interiors before making a call

>>79728756
Either.

I dislike the new house style colorists, but otherwise I can tolerate the line art of either.

Cooke is better for style, but if you're not trying to tell a gold/silver age kind of story, he's not as appropriate,

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>>79733251
>Cooke is better for style, but if you're not trying to tell a gold/silver age kind of story, he's not as appropriate,

But it works for his Parker adaptations, those are adapting crime novels.

I don't get how anyone can prefer the right. The stereotypical DC house style of Fabok, Syaf, EVS, Reis, and various Jim Lee clones is so fucking boring. It adds nothing to the comic. The art of a comic should convey the tone, direct the eye, dictate the pacing, etc. The style on the right offers none of that.

Thankfully, DC has been turning away from that style more and more. I can only think of a handful of books in their line that could be considered in that same vein.

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>>79731008
The Gibbon looks so out of place on the far right

I like Lee Bermejo a lot. All of his drawings look like they belong in a bar and willing to be in a bar fight at moments notice, though.
Good shit.

>>79732675
I always thought Rivera drew a grumpy Spider-Man regardless

>>79731067
I don't like the transition between the first three panels. Facing forward -> back turned -> facing forward again. It's like they're stopping on the dime changing direction, it feels so abrupt, yet they're supposed to be running in a straight line. The last three panels are better.

I usually like Manapul, but I think that isn't the best example.

>>79731404
Forget the linework, the colors on a lot of French comics makes me cum.

>>79733535
He's probably thinking, "If I hang out with these guys, I'll end up in a film!"

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>>79728756
>Left is inspirational
>Right is edgy red eyes superman with anime inspired background

gee I wonder

>>79733906
>anime inspired background
What the fuck are you even talking about.

>>79732356
That's clone Gwen, you fucking casual.

>>79733950
>mostly solid color with action lines

anime as fuck

>>79733906
>flat art and nonexistent tone
>"inspirational"

This is what happens when you let Calarts rule the scene, /co/

>>79733950
I think he means the speed lines. I don't know how that got tagged as a "japanese" thing. Western animation used to never do it, while Anime overdoes it. I thought Western and Japanese comics both did it, though

>>79734021
Epic Calarts meme, anon. :)

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>>79734021
Are you so blind that perspective eludes you entirely, or are you just stupid?

>>79734055
>drawing people a little smaller is now "perspective"

Darwyn Cooke "art" everybody

>>79734021
>Left
>nonexistent tone

How can anyone be this dumb?

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>>79734113
how can you be blind and use the internet?

>>79734113
>>79734021
>memeposting

>>79734166

Text to speech?

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>>79730756

Justice is amazing. What is this? Why I'm I replying to such an old comment.

>>79730704
If I wanted realism I'd watch the live action films.

>>79734232
Alex Ross is a mess at scene and action composition

>>79734272
How is it a mess?

Left, but that isn't really my favorite style either.
In general I just don't like house style, I don't really know why. Having said that, there are certain artists of that style whose work I like.
I like lines

I'm curious what are your 10 favourite comic artists, /co/?

Mine are Moebius, James Stokoe, Moritat, Ben Templesmith, Juan Jose Ryp, Brendan McCarthy, Doug Mahnke, Marcos Martin, Goran Parlov and Mignola.

>>79728756
depends on the tone of the story, the tone should inform the art

>>79734305
he just slaps all the characters onto the page without any thought for how a reader should follow the action

you can't look at Kingdom Come's fights and tell me they're not a mess

He's top-tier on stuff like Marvels, since that's less actiony and his Norman Rockwell style really fits the tone of the story, but on action capes, he's just not good

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>>79734232
I see you appreciate poorly drawn art, I bequeath to you this poorly drawn art of which I have recently come across.

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>>79734374
?

>>79734407
one panel isn't an action scene

also it really looks like he painted the figures separately and put them on the page later

>>79734369
Frank Quitely, Seth Fisher, Brendan McCarthy, David Mazzucchelli, Frazer Irving, Kevin Maguire, Moebuis, Steve Ditko, Farel Dalrymple, Brandon Graham

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>>79734452
k

>>79734382
It's so weird you've been sanitized by the emotionless shit from the likes of Reis and Fabok every little hint at expression gets labeled as poor art

>>79733309
Crime/Noir is pretty golden age.

It was maybe not the best term, I didn't mean to imply cape-exclusive.

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>>79734526
no, it's legit bad, this pic of Sonic with emotion is perfectly fine.

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I like Kevin Maguire.

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>>79734526
this has lot's of emotion, it's great artwork

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>>79734526
lot's of emotion in this one, looks just fine.

>>79728756
Depends on the story.

>>79728955
>>79729152
>>79731775
>>79734370
>>79734781
What kind of story exactly would you give to Fabok? I'm really curious about this answer. A proper artist can handle all kinds of stories.

>>79728756
Either can be fine depending on the tone you're going for.

>>79734849
He's been doing good on JL recently. Like, Darwyn Cooke's style wouldn't really fit something like Darkseid War.

>>79734849
all the super powered heroes have been infected with a virus that's leeching their powers, to power a doomsday device.

half the non-powered heroes use The Atoms technology to shrink down and go inside their comrades to combat the virus while the rest try and stop the device itself.

Right

>>79734953
With darker colors and the right tweaks to the layouts for the tone - it would. It would also have better re-designs and better action scenes.

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>>79734628
>Horn
Jesus Christ why was that guy big for like what? five years? What as anyone thinking?

>>79734953
I'd read it. New Frontier was sort of grand in scale, it could work.

>>79735021
Same thing everyone's thinking with Ross

>>79730714
> >Jason Fabok is the 99 cent store version of David Finch.
Except for the KEY fact that Fabok has absolutely none of Finch's flaws you fucking lair, he has surpassed him I'm every way.

> Finch's women today are ether hyper bimbo babes, 14 year old looking girls or what he is doing current with WW, which is OK but she has Skeleton arms.
While Fabok's WW right now is getting Universal praise outfit and body wise.
> Finch's faces are 80% pissed off looking grimaces.
Fabok has a good range of faces not a great one but a good range.
> Finch is EXTREMELY inconsistent between each and every project and during his JLA work was obviously using poser strongly (ironically his use of poser actually helped with his female characters as his Catwoman looked great in JLA)
Minus a few issues of the weekly Batman Eternal, I have never seen any work by Fabok that differs in quality on any genuinely notable level. And not a single page comes to mind that looked poser traced.

>>79735043
Except Alex Ross has been popular for over 20 years now and is still highly sought after. /co/ is the only place that has a problem with him.

>>79734995
Except something grand, dark and epic like Darkseid War begs for detail and shadow work something which a bare minimum simplicity fag hack like Cooke never even tries to use.

>>79735123
>highly sought after
>does an Astro City cover every month and calls it a day

>>79735139
anon >>79733309

>>79735159
He's still doing a lot of Marvel covers and he's working in music too. Getting him as an interior artist is next to impossible to get him for.

>>79734526
But their work isn't emotionless at all you lying little shit.
You just can't understand subtlety because your delusional mind can't read anything that isn't cartoony and exaggerated.

>>79735159
He did all Secret Wars covers and is still doing tons of covers for Marvel. He's actively avoiding DC because he's still butthurt over New 52, it's not like they don't want him.

>>79735209
>doing regular cover work for a Vertigo series is avoiding DC

I really love Darwyn Cooke's art but I wouldn't want it in every comic

>>79735237
Astro City might be a Vertigo book now but that's only a recent change.

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>>79735139
>grand, dark and epic like Darkseid War
This fucking board

Absolutely zero taste
Absolutely zero shame

Livin' the life

>>79728756
I like both, but I prefer the left.

Also wow, are Wonder Woman's tits supposed to be gigantic?

>>79735237
Astro City is something he's been doing with Busiek since its inception, he's still doing it because it's one of his own projects. He hates the current DC universe, though I'm sure if DC asked him if he'd do another Justice type story set in the old unvierse he'd probably consider it.

>>79732593
> Because the eye is already being heavily drawn to a hundred different places.
That is a extremely good thing.
I want to bask in a comic's depth and detail everytime I open one, Cooke Is so bare minimum and simple their is nothing to pull me into the page once much less on repeat viewings.
This ideal that you can't have a focal point if the entire page Is realistically detailed is fucking bullshit.

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>>79735202
>Reis
>Fabok
>subtlety
That's it for today. Thread closed.

>>79732274
I am a artist myself and the absolute most fun I have when drawing is adding the tiny details and rendering.

>>79730714
>Ivan Reis is the 50 cent store version of Neal Adams
Everything modern I have seen from Neal Adams is violently erratic and unfinished looking in the extreme while Reis inked By Prado is consistently finished looking to the point of absolute prefection.

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>>79735285
have you seen em? apparently I really haven't much given how much WW ass I had to scroll by

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>>79729669
>>79729863
What is shit/awful on any level about this?

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>>79735453

>>79735181
OK I will concede he does indeed try to use shadow there, but it still looks like a campy kids cartoon.

>>79735452
Yeah, but they seem to vary. WW in OP's left pic is Powergirl tier.

>>79735453
>>79735462
>>79735462
What isn't?
>ugly cubic proportions
>samefaces
>absolutely lifeless

>>79735508
>responding with memeposting like "sameface"

>>79735269
What is in bad taste or shameful about enjoying stories about Gods and apocalyptic world changing events instead of soap opera day to day life events of generic ordinary people like the Acclaimed Hawkeye stuff (I'm not saying that it wasn't good, I'm saying having preferences towards ether story type is not wrong)

>>79735296
In terms of facial expression yes they do have such.

>>79735508
>ugly cubic proportions
What does this even mean?
>samefaces
Hank and Clops's features are completely different!
>absolutely lifeless
... I have no idea what to say to this, I see the exact opposite.

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I like both art styles.

>>79735850
Damn, is there any good He-man comics?

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>>79735903
Couple of anons recommended me Eternity War once.

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>>79728756
Aja just fucks my shit up

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>>79736002

I'd prefer the right if everything didn't look so goddamn metallic all the time. I'd prefer the left more if the poses and perspective were more consistent.

I'd toss a coin in this case.

>>79736014
>cuh-cunt

>>79728906
Seriously? None of the above isn't a choice, Brewster.

Also I like left.

>>79736002
>>79736014
I don't mind simplistic art, but for some reason I really don't like Aja.

>>79736068
To each their own. I love it personally.

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This and...

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>>79736134
This.

I'm sorry for my late 90's upbringing.

>>79735986
>>79735893
>>79735850
The strange thing is I think these are really good but the Cooke image in OP's post just felt bland.

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>>79736161
It's not that it's bland, it's just... they're running everywhere. Batman goes towards us, Aquaman goes right, Dinah and Ollie run to quickie in broom closet...

>>79728928
hmm good point.

I was thinking right looks better but i always hate the consistency of the art in the actual panels. Where as left always makes the characters feel alive but the aesthetic isn't as nice.

But you totally pinpointed why left better as a narrative medium.

Did anyone else's taste substantially change?

I know in my teens i would have preferred right and i still do like it. But right now i like left better.

I used to love Alex Maleev as a teen.
Now rereading the books he's on he feels kind of bland to me. That's the most significant change in opinion on art I can think of.

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>>79736321
Response to
>>79736280

>>79736321
he also straight up got worse over time if it's any consolation
his hellboy and the b.pr.d. was just bad if you ask me

>>79728756
I prefer the JL it appears Lex Luthor, although we know that one day will go

The other looks like a sort of Justice League Go, so I'm not convinced ..

>>79735243

wrong. I want every comic to look like darwyn cooke.

>>79728930
Same

Todd McFarlane is a great artist, you just gotta get used to his wacky ankles.

>>79728756
But anon, there are limitless other kinds of styles.

>>79730714
>Fabok is worse than Finch
Seriously?