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Is The Punisher the greatest villain in the eyes of villains? Is Frank the baddest dude around?
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>doesn't want to bang Elektra
No, he's moron.
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>>79705173
Frank doesn't need Matty boy's sloppy seconds, come on now
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>>79705414
Better Matty's sloppy seconds than fucking guns.
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No Scourge of the Underworld is. He was literally a plot device to kill of characters writer/editor Mark Gruenwald didn't like
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Daredevil can be scarier.
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>>79706029
But what about Looney Moony?
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>>79707707
Nothing from that looks intimidating, is that Marvel Zombies?
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>>79707761
No, it's Moon Knight making Taskmaster shit his draws, also

>Cutting off a niggas face
>Not intimidating

Really man?
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Sharing one of my favorite Franks.
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>>79705144
Makes you wonder how the Punisher ever survives a night in prison.
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>>79708570
>Makes you wonder how the Punisher ever survives a night in prison.

By punishing
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>>79705144
How many supervillains has Frank actually succeeded at killing? It turned out that none of the people in this bar died even though Frank poisoned them and blew the place up.
He can't even kill Jigsaw for fuck's sake, he's only good at killing mooks and non-costumed gang leaders.
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>>79708654
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>>79708692
Fun fact: because the Plunderer is Ka-Zar's brother and there were thus still stories that could be told with him, he was brought back and they explained that this guy was actually one of the Plunderer's agents.
So the only Supervillains Frank has ever succesfully franked are Stilt-Man (not even the original Stilt-Man) and Goldbug (and there is now a new Goldbug)
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>>79708710
But...why doesn't Batman just kill the Joker?
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>>79708710
I think he also killed some of the villains the Hood had resurrected during Remender's run, but really, I don't think killing characters who had died and were resurrected just to be killed off really counts.
Not to mention, it turned out Mirage wasn't dead even though he shot him in the head, he couldn't even kill a zombie.
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>>79705144
>our brother in villany

But Doom does not sees himself as a villain
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>>79708776
Check the end of Secret Wars, because he does now.
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>>79708936
He doesn't see himself as a villain just deep inside he feels inferior to Reed
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>>79708570
It normally involves executing everyone in prison.
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>>79705144
To the ones that can be killed by bullets at least
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>>79705144
Punisher is an overhyped faggot.

Basically if you've ever had your own "Kills the Marvel Universe" story that applies to you..
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>>79708776
Read the next panel.
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>>79710212
Look at this funfaggot
>I like lighthearted comics

Kill yourself and fuck off to tumblr, funfags are the cancer of the comic industry
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>>79708521
Some people would say this dialog is juvenille. I consider this the world's most natural reaction when seeing Frank.
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>>79705144
Mainly because Frank kills on sight, he dosen't fuck around with murdering people that he deems villainous.
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>>79708776
>armada set it up

Fucking idiot
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>>79710284
Everyone knows 'fun' is just a buzzword afterall.
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>>79705144
I never thought he was all that popular or well known.
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>>79708570
>Makes you wonder how anybody ever survives a night in prison with Punisher

FTFY
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>>79708654

Stilt-Man
Persuader
Goldbug
Jester II
Vulture IV
Power Broker
Shadow Knight
Black Talon (later resurrected)
Jack O Lantern II (later resurrected)

>>79708710

It was the original Stilt-Man.

>>79708742

It was Lady Gorgon who shot Mirage while Frank was in the middle of torturing him.
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>>79712050

Oh, and to clarify, I didn't count the resurrected Scourge victims, or members of Frank's own rogues gallery.
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>>79712050
I've been reading through Max, and it kind of gets on my nerves how they go to great lengths to acknowledge that Frank is getting old as hell in the first arc (mentioning 'Nam, saying that he's in his fifties or sixties, drawing him wrinkled and grizzled as shit) and then slowly de-age him as the comic goes on. The first arc has Frank Eastwood going on and then they just kinda stop drawing the wrinkles.
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>>79712050
I hate this page
>What if the punicher comes
>He won't
>But what if he does
>I said he won't
>BUT WHAT IF
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>>79712121

It eventually becomes the focus of Aaron's continuation.
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Punisher is pretty much Marvel's batman with the only difference being he actually shoots people, right?
Same lolpreptime super thick plotarmor despite being a normal human who makes all the other characters job to him.
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>>79712315
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>>79712315
That he's de aged, or that he's getting old? Cause what I'm seeing there is acknowledgment of his age in dialogue but a-maybe- 40 year old Frank being shown.
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>>79705144

I'm gonna say yes.

>>79706029

Yeah, but he doesn't kill. The Punisher doesn't just kill, you know when he shows up that his entire goal is to kill you. I mean it's not just an option, not a frightening possibility - it's horrifying reality.

Worse is that you probably won't see him coming, and if you do it's almost certainly too late.
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>>79712050

Once again proving that all the Spider-Men and Daredevils in the world aren't even close to as much of a deterrent on crime as Frank is
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>>79710212
>Punisher is an overhyped faggot.

Uh, YEAH. What superhero is not?
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>>79712475

What's even worse is that if you're a high-up bad guy, like a big boss, the death you get is gonna make all those mown-down goons he went through to get to you look like a picnic
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>>79710284

You are so pathetic.
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>>79712509
Have Spider-Man or Daredevil ever had arcs where the entire point is the remaining five guys of the mob getting desperate because they wiped out the entirety of the organization in like a week?
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>>79712550
Enjoy your dance offs
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>>79712351
>a normal human

He's actually an agent of Hell. Never retconned. Just skated over.

The fact is, in 'Purgatory' it was stated outright he is linked to Olivier, a Hell-lord... the skull is actually his face. And Olivier is still around. After that mini, Frank worked for Heaven for a bit, until Ennis came around and had him say that he didn't do that anymore because he didn't like working for them.

So... I'm gonna say he defaulted back to Olivier. I don't think he gives a fuck.

I still am rooting for Zarathos choosing Frank as a champion. It would make more sense.

"The catch."
"The catch, mortal, is that you would be an agent of vengeance for all eternity."
"...Good catch."
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>>79712654

I wish I could dance.
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>>79712528
Aquaman, if anything he's underhyped.
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>>79712424

Him being old and breaking down (even if he doesn't look it) was the premise of the Frank and Homeless arcs, though it's brought up earlier.

As for the "he can do the impossible despite his age" thing in general, let's just blame the weird ending to Born.
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>>79712662
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Frank Castle is the stupidest comic book character ever. He's basically just "guns, hurrr" the character.

The moment he comes up against a character that has any sort of legitimate powers, if the writers weren't complete shit, he'd lose.
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>>79712662
>He's actually an agent of Hell. Never retconned. Just skated over.

Is that what this is referencing? I never read any of the occult Frank stuff cause it seemed well, dumb
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>>79712761
Super powers are retarded, child. Fuck off to Deathbattle comments section.
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>>79712750
>Murray
Heh. I'd like to think one of the lords of hell next to Satan and Mephisto and such is just one ornery old Jewish man.
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>>79712750

Thank you, anon.

>>79712784

See above. Also, is it dumber than a man who uses guns and training and nothing else to successfully operate in a world where supervillains exist?

No... Frank Castle is a little chunk of Hell on Earth. Mooks piss their pants because they sense that damnation is walking towards them and in a few moments they will be rushing screaming down the throat of Hell.
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>>79712784

It was dumb, but every so often is brought up, usually as a joke like in pic related.

I think your pic and maybe the ending of Born (>>79712750) are the only serious references to it.
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>>79712878

Do Jews have demons, or an equivalent of them?
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>>79712916
Why is the Leader red? Did they just reddify all the gamma characters when Hulk went red? Are they all linked to his Hulk status?

Does that mean they all got grey and streetwise when he was Mr. Fixit? I kind of want to see Abomination in a Capone suit now.
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>>79712970

He at some point lost his powers, but then got them back courtesy of the Red Hulk, hence the hue.
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>>79713202
>hence the hue
I've been here too long, it took me a couple reads to realize you meant hue as in color tone.
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>>79705853
Isn't that just the punisher?
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>>79707761
>>79707707
Moon Knight is a more psychotic Batman.

For all intents and purposes, yeah, Punisher is the one villains fear the most because they know Frank won't put them in jail. They'll put them to rest but given that since the vast majority of the villains in the Marvel Universe have at least a super power of some sort and the fact that Frank mostly pursues the mafia or slavers or some other shit like that, he's not that feared.

Moon Knight will hunt you down, butcher you and leave your for death but he's mostly struggling with his own crazy self so he's not like a 24/7 vigilante like Batman or Frank.

I think villains in the Marvel Universe are more scared of someone like Doom, since he will also fuck anyone's shit on a whim.
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>>79710362
What's juvenile about it? People curse all the time in real life
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>>79712952
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Demons_in_Judaism
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>>79708692
I love it how Cap loses his shit right there and beats Frank to a bloody pulp then kicks him to the curb.
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>>79713371

When the Hood resurrected a bunch of the Scourge's victims, he told them that Frank was once the Scourge.

They seemed to believe it, despite Microchip's doubts that they would.

>>79713495

Cool, thanks.
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>>79713529
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>>79712784
Goddamn
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>>79713586
What's it say on the next page?
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>>79713786
"The lawyers" or something, I think.
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>>79713911
>>79713786

"is the ****ing meetings"
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So what do we know about his show/Daredevil debut?
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>>79713632
kek
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>>79714607

Nothing, really.

>>79713786
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>>79712351
Dare devil is more Bat man I feel that Frank is more like Death Stroke.
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>>79708570
"i'm not locked up with you. you are all locked up with ME!"
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>>79710284
>anyone that doesn't like Punisher only likes lighthearted comics

Have you ever considered that Punisher is just a shit character?
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>>79715601
He'd know that they'll try to kill him or at least cripple him forever, so he'll try to kill as many as possible before they do him in.At that point he'd have nothing to lose anyway since he'd be conemned to life without parole.
It would be an interesting story actually.
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>>79716971
Have you ever considered you have an infantile mind, and could sell your services to fetishists for good coin being such a giant baby by nature?
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>>79716971
Seeing as you just responded by avatar fagging with a fucking Pokemon in a Punisher thread...

No
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>>79710212
>>79716971
I'm going to guess that you're a batfag. For whatever reason, It always seems to be batfags with a giant hateboner for frank. I find that interesting.
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>>79708710
This to me highlights why the Punisher is such a shit concept.

There are 1000s of villains in NYC alone that have done far worse than generic mafia guy #1, but Frank rarely goes after them and when he does its Z list crap that gets retconned anyway.

Frank shouldn't exist in the 616, only his own MAX stories.
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>>79717553
I agree, it just makes him look inept. Batman has the same problem. Can never get rid of the villains, so they get sent to a revolved door prison and escape to kill more people.
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>>79717553
>Frank shouldn't exist in the 616
The X-Men shouldn't either but here we are
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>>79705144
Nah he's just a gun toting mary sue that should be dead. He's boring but, edgy teenagers like him. So he persists.
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>>79717366
Punisher and Batman share many of the same reasons for being terrible. Randomly responding to posts with
>You must be a *InsertCharacter*fag
is nonsense.
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>>79717883
Like I said, it's something that I've noticed. The people most hardcore against punisher, almost always seems to be hardcore batgod fags. I find that really fascinating.
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>>79717686
Samefag
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>>79712916

Did deadpool just used a phoenix down on Castle?
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>>79717936
Why the hell would you reply to it. Now that thing is going to reply back, and 3 more people will reply to it.
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>>79717925
Most people who hate Punisher seem to just be fags who like Squirrel Girl, the MCU, and other meme crap
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>>79712916
Heh
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