I'm not reading any of the minority SJW books right now. Is there any hints at legacy characters coming back? I think brown Ms. Marvel is getting kicked off the Avengers soon, and black Spider-man's books are flopping, but is there any thing else?
Steve is coming back but Sam isn't leaving. Ms. Marvel isn't leaving and Miles can't be flopping because he's had one issue and as far as I know the numbers aren't back yet. He was doing well enough to keep an entire universe afloat before so I doubt he's going anytime soon.
im tired of this fucking meme that people cared about Carol
Kamala did more for the new than Carol ever did and everybody with half a brain knows Mar-vell is never ever coming back under the title
Miles isn't flopping at all, its Marvel's number one book on Comixology right now and it was the #1 comic on the BC poll that collects data from a number of comic shops
Kamala is actually popular. Don't expect her to go anywhere any time soon. Her getting kicked off the avengers is a plot point, not an indication that people don't like her. Plus Carol won't ever be demoted to Ms. Marvel again. It's too demeaning to go from Captain to Ms.
>Is there any hints at legacy characters coming back?
When are their movies being released? Expect them to be back that month.
>I think brown Ms. Marvel is getting kicked off the Avengers soon
I seriously doubt that will last, if future covers tell us anything. And with Carol getting a movie as Captain Marvel, I can't see her going back to being Ms Marvel at any time in the near future.
>black Spider-man's books are flopping
He just got a new issue #1 last week. How are you defining flopping?
>legacy characters coming back
You realize that "legacy character" means characters who took up the mantle of pre-existing heroes, right? Miles, Kamala, and Captain Falcon ARE legacy heroes.
You have to be more specific, for instance: I want dangerous uncontrollable killer tantrums Hulk back, from the stories where Banner was a desperate fugitive who all sorts of heroes and villians would constantly try to contain or take down unsuccessfully.
Back then he was a force of nature that no one else could ever overpower, that was what made Hulk undeniably the strongest there is.
Yes and no, that damn hammer magically removes all poisons from the wielder's body automatically- so no chemo treatments for her. And if she goes to the Asguardians for a simple magic cure they'll find out about the hammer's enchantment over her and Odin will kill her dead for "stealing" a magic hammer. Seems like a stressful situation.
(Bonus for the haters: if nothing changes she's not going to last forever...)
Seriously, both of Johnny boy's runs were about 'let's go back to basics to something that hulk has never really been'
The first one was just brainless Hulk separated from Banner rampaging around the United States as a bunch of characters nobody cared about and Doc Samson chased after it while dying humanityless Hulk kicked the shit out of all the Avengers at the same time
The second was more traditional with Hulk only separated from Banner briefly at the start to kill a bunch of people. Don't know how it's really muh killer Hulk Byrne was rambling about when he himself says the Hulk has never killed anyone and the adventures are very tame but hey it was good
>Only Batman sells
>Literally the only reason people bought the Neal Adams Variant for Det' Comics was because Harley was on it
>all your favorite DC Books are gonna be cancelled once Rebirth launches
Such is the life.
Well, if that story was written by someone not so hypocritically douchbaggy, could you at least see why someone would like the concept?
Because nothing has irritated me more than when they have awkwardly forced this original monsterous condition concept into conforming to the traditional shallow superhero story structure.
But the thing with what you and Byrne are saying, that Hulk was a killer force of nature, it was never true
Desperate fugitive? True
Tantrum haver? True
Everyone trying to take Hulk down and failing because Hulk is the strongest one there is and just wants to be left alone? True and true
But a killer Hulk, a Hulk who takes lives by accident in the destruction he causes, that's not the character and only edgy stuff like Ultimates or Banner or Avengers shit have that. The tragedy of Bruce Banner is not that he's a killer, it's that he's a slave to his emotions and every time he tries to do good it blows up in his face, but he keeps trying to rid himself of his curse and to still help people
That was literally never a thing until the Ultimates. Hulk's whole tragedy/schitck was that he was a misunderstood monster who didn't deserve to be called such, when his simpler humanity could make him better than those around him. Or something. Anyways he doesn't fucking kill.
Did pic related offend you when they created a black dude to replace Superman?
or this? Changing Iron Man into a negro just for publicity?
I see where we differ.
I don't attribute moral responsibility to the harm Hulk does by accident, he's a tragic figure who many times has reverted back to Banner when made aware of having harmed someone he cared for. Hulk is a dangerous threat by his very nature, his nearly unlimited power combined with the diminished capacity to understand the ramafications of his actions, such as throwing a semi truck at a villian, don't allow him control of any violent situation he's placed in. What if the villian dodges that truck? Who could it hit then? What if that truck hits and topples a building? Did the hulk know that would happen? Or if the building had people in it?
On a practical level killing innocent bystanders would be unavoidable if a reckless green behemoth was attacked in a populated area.
That's why Hulk only ever wanted to be left alone, he knew nothing good ever came from any interactions. That others continually forced those massively destructive conflicts was not the Hulk's fault.
He's no hero, and he shouldn't be thought of as one, but that doesn't mean that he's evil.
Two brutal mass murderers, one illegally cloned ( without consent ) youth-hype-fad douche, and you focus on the hidden face that isn't the skincolor you like as the only thing that really offends you.
...No comment. I'm just recapping.
I understand your pondering
But it's not the case and has never been the case. You seem like you know your stuff, so you know that the Hulk does not go on rampages actively destroying things just because. In all those times, nobody has been killed on accident. It's simply the way things are and should be without comics wanting to be edgy and actually want to make Hulk a monster instead of misunderstood. There would be very little empathy us readers would have for the character if he was depicted as an accidental killer who took countless lives during his many fights.....but he has not, even if you want to speculate that. Also remember that, while Hulk is not a superhero or actively a hero usually, he does not mean bad on anyone who doesn't have him coming. It is, completely and totally in character, in these hypotheticals where he throws a truck and somehow hits a building, that he would stop everything and save ANYONE who is in the building. He has heightened senses and isn't stupid. Might as well say it's not practical for innocent bystanders to be killed in any sort of superhero fight, which you may believe, but you said we differ and I agree. There shouldn't be any senseless killing
On an aside, I don't like the Hulk being on any teams unless it's the Defenders which is long since deceased as everyone is now an Avenger
Funny you should say that, because I've always thought that if anything, Hulk can work as part of a team. My belief that a chaotic Hulk battlefield can never be controlled or contained wouldn't be an issue if there was a whole Avengers team there to heroically shield the innocents from any fallout.
That's why I just loved him being on that Avenger's World team, that made sense. And the Hulk persona got to be a proactive hero.
Defenders... I never read. I know I should have, I love Frank Cho's art.
Hulk works perfectly as a part of a team but he's too much of an outsider because most of the shitty heroes who spend all their time in jew york think he's a danger
He does not cause as much damage as you think
The Defenders was a team of outsider heroes led by Strange that treated Hulk like a human being with a bad temper instead of a time bomb and he cooperated with them until they disbanded. The doc would let him crash on his couch and they made him calm down after Jarella died and he was going on an actual rampage
The 70s were a much much better time
I would have hoped that was a typoe but we both know better. It's not just the Jewish who get offended by their home being made into a bigoted and denigrating joke for no reason.
Finish your conversation with someone else.
>In all those times, nobody has been killed on accident.
Stupidest retcon ever. Now Hulk rampages pose very little threat.
>It's simply the way things are and should be without comics wanting to be edgy and actually want to make Hulk a monster instead of misunderstood.
That's not what edgy means.
>There would be very little empathy us readers would have for the character if he was depicted as an accidental killer who took countless lives during his many fights..
You suck at empathy.
I forget, did they explain why cancer isn't removed? Is it not seen as a poison, or is it like Deadpool, where cancer ridden is seen as the 'normal' state, so any healing just reverts her back to where she was before?
It's not seen as a poison as it shouldn't. Cancer is basically just your cells growing out of control, but the cancer itself is still biologically you for the most part. Chemo on the other hand is straight up poisoning yourself to kill the cancer cells.
I miss Peter David's Pantheon era Smart Hulk. Basically Banner's intelligence, Joe Fixit's attitude and the green Hulk's strength with the occasional rage out and reversion to "Hulk Smash" mode. And most of the Marvel universe had no clue what was going on with him.
>"Inevitably gentlemen, Hulk will smash."
>They will drop Peter Parker before they drop Miles.
I get that, I was just wondering how the healing worked. While chemo is literally poison, and so is removed, it seems a little dumb that the magical transformation can't tell that there's something wrong in terms of the cancer cells.
Presumably Jane gets healed up from her fist fights etc, so shouldn't any healing factor that comes with being Thor likewise be able to tell the difference between a 'healthy' body and a body that's simply free of any poisons?
Like, if Jane falls and breaks her arm, and then transforms, would the transformation fix her arm, or would it be left broken because, biologically, all her bits are there and still 'her'?
It's not like they've not done something similar in the past.
>let's make hulk annoying af!
>let's make thor a woman, that makes sense!
>let's make spider-man black!
>let's make captain america black!
>let's make ms.marvel a muslim!
>let's keep iron man exactly the same as far as i can tell!
everybody hates this shit yet it seems to sell really well. is it really just hipsters and whales buying this up or am i just a proper cynical lad?
>Let's make Hulk grey! And smart!
>Let's make Thor a random guy, called Thunderstrike!
>Let's make Spider-Man a clone!
>Let's make Captain America a paranoid psycopath fan of Steve Rogers who suspects innocents of being communist spies!
>Let's make Captain Marvel a woman!
>Let's make Iron Man a homeless alcoholic deviant!
You're a little cynical anon. You can't place this all at the feet of the boogeyman.
Yeah, I always pictured Miles would one day go down the same road Ben did. What's going to be interesting is what things would look like if Bendis became Editor in Chief like some think he will be and then was able to go about his crazy scheme to replace Peter. I don't know if it'll stick if that happens though.
Friendly reminder that it's not wanting diversity of characters that makes someone an SJW, it's the racist and sexist double standards, the demands for censorship, the bullying, the insistence that race and sex issues are more important than everything else, and the demands that everyone who disagree with them be silenced that makes someone/something an SJW.
But the reason she calls herself "Captain Marvel" is because of Mar-Vell who was a captain and went by Captain Marvel. It's sort of like how Steve isn't technically an actual captain, he's just called that because it sounds cool.
PHG bro you need to leave, the amount of time you spend on the Internet and in lcs talking about comics is blatantly obvious by your annoying, childish, and gay remarks. Please go back to the robot board you elitist piece of shit
Mar-Vell will always be dead because that's all he is good for. Though he has come back like three times in the past forty years to set off some Kree-related event, in which he always dies again during.
>She tuned it down because she didn't want the consequences of using magic
No, she didn't want a magic cure because she didn't think it'd be fair to the other cancer having people on earth if she got her fix it. Then went on to do Thor things despite her acknowledging it exacerbating her condition and killing her off quicker.
Which is pretty insulting in and of itself.
>she didn't want a magic cure because she didn't think it'd be fair to the other cancer having people on earth if she got her fix it
That's also the excuse as to why Barbara Gordon refused any and all offers from DC's superheroes to fix her paralyzed legs (pre-New52).
The difference is Babs wasn't suffering from a fatal disease that has the potential to kill her at any time, and on top of that is using magic of another sort that will kill her off even quicker.