Team Cap or team Robot?
Will marvel have the balls to let ironman kill captain?
As I said in another thread, as a civillian I'd totally be pro-reg. I agree with the notion that people like Hulk and Scarlet Witch are way too dangerous to just trust them and let them do whatever they want because they say they're nice and they won't do bad things. Immediately forcing them to sign up for some kind of task force or special police unit would be taking things too far though. They're still humans who often had no choice in becoming what they are. However, in the MCU the government has been proven to be unreliable and very vulnerable to manipulation and infiltration by supernazis, terrorists, etc. So I would definitely not trust them with the responsibility to keep the enhanced people in check and keeping everyone safe.
are there any movies between now and the end where they can pick up futuristic space weapons or some shit and get powered up?
i feel like we need some sort of retarded power creep
I expect Falcon to eventually actually get his Psychic powers. Maybe in IW part 1. Dr. Strange is probably the last movie that can possibly tie in the Avengers/Shield stuff before IW. Maybe Panther too though if anything like that will happen it'd be some Strange artifact
What I dislike about almost everyone with Captain America is that aside from Ant-Man their costumes are so fucking terrible and neutered in every way to the point that they are basically just wearing clothes instead of actual costumes. I'm happy it is unavoidable with Ant-Man but with Hawkeye its like they are not even trying.
Obviously within the context of their existence in these movies what they are wearing makes sense, i'm not saying it doesn't, but their origins should have been more accurately done so that they could wear their costumes too. It sounds so silly to say such minor details make a big difference but if Hawkeye had a mask and Scarlet Witch a tiara that would be perfect to me on top of thematically being better if secret identities were more common. It is a small enough roster that just one character having a mask makes a difference. I think its cool as hell that it's likely Ant-Man is trying to conceal his identity from the general public.
The only reason I thought up this entire post was because Ant-Man almost looks out of place as the only person on his team with a full covering suit and I had to stop myself to think why that is. Not to say Captain America looks bad, obviously that general design is standard for him.
On the one hand you can't have people running around as vigilantes, as that's a recipe for disaster.
For a person like Banner or Wanda its a horrible situation to be in, though.
What if they don't want to go out onto the field?
Also having powers which are beyond human comprehension means you are on an even stickier wicket if ignorant people are in charge of you and you will get all the flak if they fuck up.
Yeah, some kind of registration but not conscription.
I actually think they'll do the opposite than in the comics
I mean, Cap would still give the suit to Bucky, but instead because he has to go
Because Iron Man is dead
I don't know if they would do it, but it would be a REALLY huge shock to the audience.
Also there's no more Iron Man movies upcoming, meanwhile, Captain America is pretty much needed for Avenger Infinity War
Hawkeye's classic a shit, they've been trying to 'fix' it since the turn of the 21st century and it's still shit.
AoU and now CW is the closest he's been to not looking like a straight up clown.
And secret identities have been played out for forever, which is why Marvel did away with 90% of them decades ago.
I really hope IW doesn't disappoint. Like you said, if Thanos actually does get a hold of all Infinity Gems, it's just going to be a massive disappointment if they resort to bullshit to save the day. Luckily the Russos are in charge of that movie.
have fun finding someone with the balls to get everyones' shit together and lead them in a scenario like such
best Cap costume coming through
the best option would be "you are only allowed to use your powers if we AND you agree if the situation allows it" that way they won't simply become tools, but also serve the government properly
>tropic thunder reference
>Implying Cap's team isn't gonna get wrecked during this fight.
Granted Tony is going to get BTFO throughout the rest of this movie but still. He'll take this battle
>B-b-but muh Ant-man and Scarlet Waifu
They're not as powerful as their comic book counterparts.
This will be evident when Ant-man gets beaten by Black Widow
When the heck is Marvel switching over to IMAX cameras?
That framing is so lame
>shrinks subatomic, explosion can't effect him
>grows massive, steps on iron man
>B-b-but muh ANTS and Scarlet Waifu can totally beat these guys
This is the MCU not the comics and I can't wait to drink all of the delicious tears you faggots will shed when your precious Wanda and Scott gets dat ass beat along with the rest of Cap's team
It would make a ton more sense to kill Tony off in this movie. The guy is awful to the world. He cant seem to keep his fucking hands out of every situation that he feels the need to just jump into, usually to make situations worse. He's smart, yeah, but if you make enough mistakes that go unchecked, you'll eventually have to be taken care of. Building Ultron was the last straw in my opinion.
If Justin Hammer got arrested for helping Ivan Vanko out of prison, then Tony Stark should be arrested for nearly killing everything on earth and destroying an entire country
>Ant-man grows massive
>Implying he didn't just make himself a bigger target
>Implying Iron-man/ War Machine/ Vision still can't fly above him and blast the everloving shit out of him
everyone is drastically underestimating super soldiers
I don't see a scenario where cap or bucky even get seriously injured
scarlet witch matches vision easily
the fight favors iron man because they have the stronger fliers, but not drastically
Not so far, but he definitely will in CW.
Why is it that studios seem to always one up another studio? antz/bugs life, shark tale/finding nemo, batmanVsuperman/this movie.
Is there some sort of insider thing I'm not aware of?
Fuck off retard. BP is probably pro for having his identity revelead, but the helmet/mask is a part of his armor. They are seconds a way from smashing each others teeth in and you ask why they are hiding their faces?
Tony Stark was right!! Screw all those walking nukes that blow up schoolchildren for fun!
>the Justice League in DC land where supers police themselves.
Do they now?
Do you think they'll reuse the UNITED WE STAND choir for Infinity War or something? I feel like maybe it should because it kinda is the theme of Phase 3 (If the Avengers and the Guardians don't unite then we all fall).
What happends if you apply Ant-Mans tech to the Iron Man suit?
Even in still shots Liz Olsen can't act.
She just does that half-opened-mouth empty-eyes-gazing-into-nothingness face from the Kristen Stweart school of acting that she held during half of AoU.
Traditional conservatism supports limited government, only neocons suggest otherwise.
And right before he jumped out of a plane he called Thor a bullshit God and said there was only one God and it wasn't him.
>Team Cap and Team Iron Man fight
>Some or all of the A League Avengers involved go into hiding
>Infinity Wars Part 1
>Leftover B Leaguers try to take on Thanos
>Get their shit slapped
>After credits sequence
>Avengers decide it's time to come out of hiding
Prove me wrong.
They just had to fuck with Ant-Man's suit didn't they.
I kinda hope MIchael Douglas is in Civil War just for a little bit, watching the action unfold and giving some advice from behind a monitor like Bruce does in Batman Beyond.
I really want him to get to lay into Stark.
Black Panther is tougher and cooler than you give him credit for. And while I understand why he'd totally be for registration because he's open about who he is anyway,
I'm still for Steve here because Tony is being an asshat, and goes too far.
But seriously, read up on Black Panther. He's a gymnist and shit the same way you could say Batman is. He's very punchy in a setting with a lot of metas, and although they will shortsell him and make him job in this movie, generally speaking he could realistically take anyone who doesn't have power armor in this picture, or is not a killer robot.
Even then he still could because he has VIBRANIUMMM equipment and super science gadgets, and he's really smart.
And you know, rich. He's effectively as rich as Bruce Wayne because he's the Supreme Monarch of the most technically sophisticated country in the world, a quite rich country mind you because of this.
Hell, his body guards and sworn companion (a giant tribal guy who's good in a fight) could probably take most of those assholes.
Well, not Cap, none of them could take Cap, but he could.
And win a lot of the time because he knows more about vibranium than Cap does.
"Hah, my gadget makes your shield vibrate a way you don't like. Enjoy that. It's easy for Wakanadan Science to make Vibranium do what it wants. We discovered it."
The way they line up and Scott's inclusion makes this look like a Kamen Rider episode. I love it.
>Tony makes a million tiny suits of armor for ants
>A swarm of Iron Ants is unleashed
CAPTAIN AMERICA: CIVIL WAR PT. 2: A FUCKLOAD OF ANTS
>Hank Pym and Tony working together to stop Thanos on Infinity War
>A new mark armor enhanced with pym tech and a new ant man armor enhanced with iron man tech
everyone will get shot in Infinity War
Holy shit anon.
> he doesn't know the MCU is literally Sentai for western audiences
>he doesn't know giant mecha are capes for nips
As I said in another thread.
The way you win a team battle if your team is on average weaker is that you pair off so that their team does not have an overwhelming advantage in any of their fights, but you have at least one easy win for yours.
In this situation the first thing would be to pair off Scarlet Witch against Vision. Even if she can't win, she can probably keep him occupied long enough. Cap or Bucky could take BP. Falcon leads War Machine away from the fight. Now you've got a much more one-sided fight like Scott vs. Tony that your side can quickly win, then go help someone else out.
>Radioactive blood from spider-man
>tony stark tech.
As if a marvel movie would ever be that deep. I'm a fan, but cmon
>come, friends! I've had the finest craftsman of Asgard forge equipment for us for the coming battle with Thanos.
>for you steve, i know it's not your usual kind of battle armor, but this is a suit of the toughest scale mail in the galaxy. i even had them color it to match those of your homeland. I believe it will serve you well
This movie is not pro-reg against anti-reg though, Steve os willing to go along with the sokovia accords until they started hunting down Bucky and it was evident no one was going to help him.
Yeah I was wondering if they weren't going to either use or more likely retcon him. Hopefully Nuke is the MCUs first use of TV stuff in movies. I'd love to see his full origin in Season 2 then bring him on as a full Nuke in a Cap movie. Either Wilson or reanimated Steve some time in Phase 4. I'll be pissed if they kill Jim in the show
>you will never be ant man
>you will never sneak into an ant hill, fight your way in and battle the queen
>you will never kill her, dooming the rest of the ants to certain death
Why even fucking live, seriously?
I wouldn't mind a "Captain America and the Falcon" movie with Bucky and Sam teaming up in Phase 4. I'm really liking the solo Marvel movies that we're getting, but DC has the right idea if they're actually doing team movies in addition. Marvel's on the right track with "Ant-Man and the Wasp"
Just how big can Ant-Man actually become /co/? Can he like, be the size of the sun if he wanted to?
That is a poor STRAWMAN representation made to look like bad cosplay so they can say,
>See gais, spandex looks silly therefore bad, kevlar tacticool shit is the go!
Welp at the very least they arent leatherjackets.
I can safely say I've been on 4chan too long when I was absolutely and 100% certain that is greentext was going to involving fucking the ant queen and ruling the colony as ant king.
I need to go drink.
Not going to happen, Disney and MCU didnt catter to actual cómic book fans, but to DUMB movie going audiences.
You know. The ones who will NEVER pick a cómic book BEFORE the bad reboots?
He and Absorbing Man grew so big that they entered another plane of existance where the Living Tribunal and Eternitys humanoid form dwell. In the MCU I think they said 20 feet for CW.
Well compared to how Fox handles a characters costume I will say they do an amazing job. Wolverine has been in 5 movies and has not worn his trademark costume once. Hell, they never even attempted it or even gave him anything remotely similar. The same goes for all the other X-Men.
Thanos is always defeated by his own hubris or something even more bullshit like "whoops, I slipped", because that's what happens when you make a truly overpowered villain with truly overpowered weapons.
Hey at least it won't be dance-off+power of friendship.
They didn't "give" him to them. They made a deal that benefits them both. Disney can use THE Marvel cashcow in their movies, Sony gets some of the profits. Sony is still the one making the MCU Spidey movie, but Marvel is holding their hand so that it stays in tune with the MCU (aka so that they don't fuck up).
This for example would not be possible with Fox for the Fantastic Four for example, because Fox and Disney hate each other with a passion.
They're going to do a scene with Ant-Man riding on one of hawk eyes' arrows.
You just know.
Maybe if they noticed they really need Doom because they don't have any interesting shit anymore it MIGHT make Disney clench their teeth and try to talk with Fox, but Fox obviously would want to bleed Disney for all they are worth. Keep in mind the last FF movie was made just so that the rights wouldn't default back to Marvel.
Oh, yeah. Movie going audiences are so dumb, and people who read comics are just so much smarter, right?
I mean, it's not like their both equally flawed mediums with more than their fair share of really dumb shit, right?
You just love feeling superior, don't you?
>Cap or Bucky could take BP
If this movie was realistic, the first scene would be the Hatut Zeraze slitting Bucky's throat while he sits crying out his wounded warrior bit.
The next scene would be a stalemate battle between Cap and BP before a Wakandan satellite snipes Cap from 600 miles up.
The only good part of Civil War was Thor coming back and beating Tony's ass. Too bad, he's not dead, so that can't happen.
I hope Cap gets stopped by firefighters again, just to illustrate how stupid this shit still is.