Well acted, well produced, interesting enough (keeps you wanting to watch) but retarded written with too many plot holes because the characters acted way to irrationally and illogically, like not even believably so.
I didn't like it as much as Daredevil. Focusing on one villain for the majority of the show worked for DD, since Kingpin's nature as a crime boss meant he had an army of dudes for DD to fight through first.
The problem with Kilgrave is that half of the time it's "Darn, he just barely got away again!" I would've greatly preferred if Kilgrave wasn't there the whole time, like if the earlier episodes focused on some of Jessica's other cases that in the end turned out to be related to Kilgrave. For the show about a PI it didn't try very hard to weave together any mystery and I felt that was a waste.
Started off ok, then the writing became bat shit retarded and is really starting to piss me off. I'm up to ep 11 and Killgrave has escaped Jessica 4 FUCKING TIMES!
Shit's all over the source material. The comic was never about Killgrave. It was about an interesting and fucked up character with an interesting and fucked up background trying to solve interesting and fucked up situations. But nope. It's a modern superhero, so we need villain of the month to be the center of the universe.
I like Krysten Ritter as an actress but hot dam does she make for an awkwardly acted JJ.
>>79673195 I liked Daredevil. I liked Jessica Jones. I kind of agree with you that Tennant kind of carried the show by being a great villain. Daredevil succeeded by being great action, and by going into Kingpin's head. I can see Jessica Jones doing something similar in future. I'm not familiar with her rogues, so personally I think they'll have a lot of leeway and a lot more need to build them up.
It wasn't amazing but it was watchable enough. I think making a second season is a mistake. Their options are: don't use Kilgrave which is the only reason the show was entertaining or bring Kilgrave back in some contrived fashion and deliver a boring retread.
Didn't have good fights or action choreography at all and probably should have been about 5 episodes shorter than it was, the middle part kind of felt tacked on because they needed to hit an episode order.
That said, David Tennant is fantastic and horrifying (although a lot of his creepiness went away as soon as we see him in person), the themes are great, its mature yet still manages to be fun and the interactions between Jessica and Luke are adorable.
>>79675957 >(although a lot of his creepiness went away as soon as we see him in person) Rule no. 1 of any horror story: once you see the monster, the impact of them on screen is lessened as time goes on
>>79672549 Tennant was great. Jessica wasn't likable at all, in my opinion, she seems like the kind of person who would have an extremely rancid and smelly cunt, she didn't even change her clothes for the entirety of the first season, she seemed kind of gross.
>>79672549 Killgrave was fucking phenomenal. Geri was good. I actually really liked the incest twins as well. Nuke was interesting, moreso at the start of the series.
Everything else honestly ranged from serviceable to bad. Luke was decent, but JJ herself could be frustrating at times. I can appreciate characters acting irrationally, to a certain degree, it adds realism and relatablility, but this show went overboard with it. Characters so often act without reason or logic, to a point where it becomes hard to follow motivations and actions, and it just becomes distracting and frustrating, making almost everyone unlikable. I can see what they were going for, and understand from a writing perspective why they made these decisions, but they just didn't pull it off.
The show definitely peaked in the middle, around when Killgrave had Jessica in her old house.
On the whole, I'd probably give it a 7.5 out of 10. Definitely worse than Daredevil, but still better than average, largely because of Killgrave, who really was excellent in every way.
>>79678069 I just realized to Daredevil all sex scenes are a fade to black.
>>79677603 To be fair, him honestly and genuinely buying Jessica's house, and then peeling the wallpaper off to reveal it was incredibly fucking creepy...right...up until the point where they showed the street signs, to hammer the point in. That's a huge problem of JJ. For all the nuance it wants to have, it has the subtlety of a brick to the kidneys. Why the fuck did we need a scene in episode 1 with Trish expositing the whole streets recital thing? It would've meant a lot more just to hear Jessica explain it to Hope. Writers need to give us 2 and 2, they should almost never tell us it's 4. This is an adult show, we're not supposed to be as retarded as Jessica is.
>>79678069 >First off, Kilgrave did nothing wrong. Why can /co/ not fucking grasp the basic idea that
sympathetic or understandable back story =/= doing nothing wrong.
The show explains to us why Kilgrave turned out so fucked up. He had a horrible childhood and was given an incredibly warped and twisted worldview and really bad personality problems. He never really had a chance, it's not his fault he's such a psychopath. But that doesn't change the fact that he IS a psychopath and DOES do incredibly fucked up things, even if he doesn't realize it. Sure you can feel bad for him, but that doesn't make him in the right. Yeah he didn't realize what he was doing was truly wrong, but almost no one ever does. And he was beyond the point of redemption, of being able to become a good person. It wasn't his fault he was turned into a monster but he WAS a monster.
>>79678812 After you keep your shit taste in /v/ first.
This is why this board is a laughingstock for everyone else, because they defend shitty products as long as it's capeshit and call them great. I'm just trying to reach out to you faggots so you could get better standards, but it seems you don't want to. You're happy eating shit.
I made it like 4 episodes into the show and then stopped. Simply didn't manage to keep my attention.
I like my superheroes to be superheroes and do superheroic stuff. Jessica Jones did none of that - at least not in the first four episodes... Her power display was none existent and the budget was so low, that they had to take her ability to fly, I guess.
It.. was simply boring.
I also didn't like Luke Cage in that show, so I'm going to skip his upcoming show. I hope that Iron Fist will do things differently and be more heroic, the way Daredevil was.
As for now my favorite show is Flash, since it's light-hearted and heroic. Not a fan of the increasing drama in the second season now, but eh... You can't have it all.
>>79679404 >tfw I was hyped for this because the person writing some of my favourite episodes on the early Dexter was a showrunner I'm still mad at how bad it turned out to be. I even rewatched the first season of Dexter to see if it still holds up and not just me being nostalgic, and it was far more dynamic than Jessica Jones, had better dialogue and a had villain who's actually menacing, somewhat interesting and sympathetic.
I guess Rosenberg wasn't the one who made that show work. >inb4 Dexter was always shit First seasons were serviceable and good pulpy police procedural as long as you don't expect Sopranos or the like.
Disappointing - Kristen Manface has the acting range of a sock, her portrayal of Jessica made her to be an unlikeable alcoholic edgelord which may well have been the point but made it impossible to empathise with her, Invincible Black Man™ was average (i assume his character direction was 1 - be black 2 - be angry), Super-Friendzone-Hipster-Drug Addict guy was irritating and i whereas found Kilgrave to be fairly interesting, a pair of headphones and a handgun would have solved that problem.
>>79677603 You know that's actually true as well for the rape thing. It was creepy and actually unsettling up until Jessica just flat out goes "you raped me Kilgrave." I dunno if that's intentional or what and is meant to be part of the message of the show to not hide away from what happened, but it became a lot less creepy when she flat out said it.
>>79679926 The whole stalker with a camera thing, the phone calls and the paranoia that anyone could be working with Kilgrave I found was unsettling. Not nightmare level, but did a good job of portraying the shifted mindset of someone with PTSD (I imagine). Speaking of which, is it normal for people when talking to people with PTSD to just go "It's just your PTSD talking"? It sounds awkward to me.
>>79679197 >the budget was so low, that they had to take her ability to fly, I guess Jessica not having a hang of her flying due to being in early superhero retirement has always been a thing. She only had her powers for a few weeks or something before the Purple Man incident and then tried to ignore having powers for a long time and thus never mastered her flight.
>>79679913 Well to be fair in the comic there's the whole thing where he made her desperately want him while he raped OTHER girls in front of her, and never slipped her the purple, but that wouldn't translate over to live action quite so well. It's a lot easier to just flat out say he did rape her, then move on to the ramifications, rather than spending show time on creepy cheerleader 3-somes while jess watched and explaining in detail how she wanted to join in but couldn't. It's something of a land mine issue to handle anyway, and her being mind-but-not-body-raped would have made her even less sympathetic, more like the white guy in the support group that only lost his coat. People would feel worse for the cheerleaders he boned than Jessica who just stood there.
>>79680028 No as in, it was pretty obvious that he did fuck her while she was under his control, but the tension was higher when they didn't explicitly say it, the elephant in the room as it were, imagination being worse than the real thing phenomenon going on
>>79680088 Well that's just like, your opinion man
How do they even do a season 2? Kilgrave was the show and made Jessica relevant.
Jessica's powers are shit. She can be killed by any hobo with a gun or even a fucking knife. Any serious villain would be able to kill her with ease. How to they introduce any antagonist that lasts more than episodes without getting caught or killing her?
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