God-Tier Redesigns

>>79672378
I personally really like Helena's new design
She actually sort of resembles a Sicilian now. Instead of some white chick.

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Me likey

>>79672938
Yeah I like how she's not black haired and blue eyed like everybody else in DC now

>>79672938

This post is why I hate Americans.

It wouldn't be as good without the full Spyral revamp too. Spy angle really makes her interesting instead of just another street-level cape.

>All you need to do to be a God-tier redesign on /co/ is get turned into an ambiguously brown chick
Well it's not like expected more of you, /co/

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Pipeline redesign .

>>79673096
Yeah there'd be more whining about her being changed if Grayson weren't good and Spyral weren't interesting.

>>79673184
Didn't like that one. I'll take it over the belly window I guess but the giant shoulder pads and the fucked up cross ruin it for me.

>>79673184
This would be pretty good if the shoulder pads weren't there and the white ended at the belt

>>79673163
Hi :3

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>>79673184
Frankly it does nothing that this doesn't do better.

>>79672993
This. I wish we had half-gypsy Dick too.

>>79673634
The perfect Huntress costume.

>>79673634
I can't imagine Spyral Helena ever dressing like this.

>>79673781
If you got rid of the cape and mask and just put the horizontal stripe on the body suit then it's just a spy catsuit with a white cross on it

>>79672378
>>79672938
>>79672993
Nigga, that's not even a redesign. She's a completely different character. Stop trying to start shit.

>>79673849
I guess it would be more of a reinterpretation than redesign then.

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>>79673634
>those little gold boomerangs when there's no other gold in the costume
>those little spikes at the chin

Every Huntress costume has bizarre little design elements that bug me.

New 52 was my favorite but it turned out to be Wayne who's not even that Catholic so the cross doesn't make sense. And even it had chinspikes.

Grayson Helena just wears clothes but at least she's free of random fiddly bits.

>>79673849
She's the same person.

>>79674063
Cyborg is supposed to be an athlete
Green lantern was fashionably asymmetrical woth the ring and the chest projector would never work in action
The greeks painted their marble statures
Power gurl lools bleh

>>79672958
This Helena wearing this costume >>79674045

Would be best

I wish Helena Wayne would come back to the main Earth with Power Girl. Though I'm going to bet that Helena Wayne is going to get sidelined hard following whatever Rebirth is.

>>79674312
I hope the JSA Rebirth rumor is true, but I'm not sure what it would mean for her

>>79674416
Oblivion, probably, along with Peej.

>>79674232
I don't know if the costume works with her complexion.

>>79672378
>>79672958
Who is this?

>>79674460
I think they'd get some version of Peeg on there but Helena Wayne would be fucked.

>>79673163
Dammit sharktits, you can't ask a man to argue with his dick.

Well, OK, maybe you can, but the dick is going to take the lead 9/10 times.

>>79675930
Back to Atlantean Power Girl? The rumor said young JSA, so even on Earth 2 she wouldn't have arrived yet.

>>79675786
Earth-0 Helena Bertinelli

>>79674211
>implying wondie would spend time upkeeping her paint

Agree on Cyborg though. "Skinny nerd actually becomes powerful" is the most embarrassing wish-fulfillment origin story. At least Peter Parker was a still a shameful sad sack afterwards.

>>79675989
Honestly they could bring her straight over from E2 again if they wanted. I just think her JSA connection matters more to people than Huntress's though.

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>>79676091
Why can't I just get a good Earth 2 book, then?

I don't even like Helena Wayne's origin that much, but I find her charming and I don't want Power Girl to lose her best friend again.

>>79672378
No.

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>>79674063

>>79673163

y-you too

>>79674063
>Cyborg

He literally just took Moss from IT Crowd and slapped some machine shit on him

>>79672378

>god-tier redesigns

>street clothes "costumes"

>fashion designer shit

Why are these threads always so fucking awful and filled with cringey people who want to pretend they're not reading superhero comics?

>>79672938

She looks blacks and was confirmed as black. fuck off.

>>79672378
I dig how this Helena looks, but is she a good character? Anything like the JLU interpretation?

>>79680668
Nothing alike. Helena Wayne is the huntress now.

>>79680682
I thought Helena Wayne was only Huntress on Earth 2, and Earth 2 was fucked a while ago. Has she even appeared since World's Finest got cancelled?

>>79680701
Yeah they stuck her back in Earth 2 and she became a villain or something

>>79680701
There is no Huntress on Earth-0. She's just Helena Bertinelli now.

>>79680651
Who the hell said she was black?

>>79680755
Yeah, they're just waiting until Vic Sage goes AWOL from Task Force X and then the two of them will go back to their costumes.

>>79680763
Seely and King iirc. She's mixed race, her mother was black her father was Sicilian.

>>79680782
>She's mixed race, her mother was black her father was Sicilian.

And no Sicilian in the 70's would do that EVER. Literally no one. Afro-Italians are mixed with LYBIANS, not with blacks.

Hell, a mafia involved guy couldnt even marry a roman girl.

>>79672378
don't know who this is but she looks sexy/cool

>>79672378
I think the important part isn't that they changed her looks, but that they actually made her an interesting charater, as opposed to Bird of Prey #734856923. I never gave a damn about the old Huntress.

>>79680944
And that couldnt had been done without changing his race

>>79674063
Reposting my opinions on this shit b/c why not?

>GL is fine aside from the chest projector
>Superman's design is great for a Golden Age take on the character, minus the rape-face
>PG is fine but needs the boob window and maybe replace the blue with red.
>Cyborg is fucking awesome as an original character idea. Just recycle that shit for something completely different.
>WW is actually great and could work as a 'super form' of Wondy, like SSJ or something.
>MM is bad
>Flash is w/e

There, I said it.

>>79680834
my friends grandmother had a hit out on her because she slept with an irishman

he doesn't have much contact with his italian side of the family

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Just put a cross in the middle of her chest and this redesign is GOAT

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Livewire is fun to redesign, lots of possibilities

>>79680834
It's fiction, who gives a shit

>>79680668
She is pretty much a brand new character in the New 52. It's best to look at her like that if you were a fan of the old pre New 52 character and JLU one.

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Wildstormfags need to accept the truth.

>>79680834
The fact that it could get you killed only makes it hotter to some people.

>>79681043
Americans being ignorant can't be excused by saying "it's fiction". The whole Cosa Nostra plays a huge role in the mafia, she was made black for the sake of being black. Just like you SJWfags say Black Panther HAS to be black due his background, Helena can't be mixed with other race if you will keep his mafia background.

>>79680964
Who the fuck cares that she was made dark-skinned? It's never alluded to in the comics. It's not like she goes around screaming black excellence or something.

>>79680964
She looks better now, though.

>>79681169

>/co/mblr

Don't you have a squirrel girl thread to make?

>>79681150
It would be fine if they had changed her surname, give us a new Helena

>>79681154
Maybe her being moxed plays into her origin.
>tony I can't believe you slept with a negress
>now I have to kill your family

>>79681212
She's a minor character with a tiny fanbase, noone literally cares that they changed her race, it's not like that shit with Johnny Storm.
She's better right now than she's ever been written.

>>79681018
>Literally his waifu from Dresden Codak

Fucking hell Diaz, you never cease to amuse me

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>>79672378
DCEU Superman suit is looking good

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>>79681169
>>79681043

>Who the fuck cares that she was made dark-skinned

Italians

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2xH3IBQpqHw

I know Anglos tend to be pretty PC, but for fucks sake we are talking about the most racist country in western europe and the most racist people in said country, the fact that you are not racist it doesnt mean other societies can't be different.

>>79681254
I would actually like that a lot, and it would be possible, like the mob discovering he has a black wife after he became a boss or something. That kind of stuff could make you get killed, the 70's are not that far away.

>>79681311
Many italians are dark skinned, though. There's a lot of north african blood there.

>>79681311
Italians have plenty of dark-skinned models nowadays.
Also, implying Italians care about the way American comics portray them at all. It's not like they'll ever get it right anyway.

>>79675786
Read Grayson, nigga.

>>79674416
>>79674460
>>79675930
>>79675989
Probably the Teen Titans' Power Girl or something. Yeah, it sucks, but it's what I expect.

>>79680934
Helena Bertinelli, from Grayson.

>>79681337
If it happened during the roman empire I think it gets a pass.

>>79672938

You've been looking at some weird Sicilians, anon.

>>79681212
>It would be fine if they had changed her surname, give us a new Helena
Your Helena is Helena Wayne, a return to the pre-crisis version.
>>79681261
>She's better right now than she's ever been written.
I don't think you've ever read anything with Bertinelli before.

>>79681586
That's the point, Helena wayne, bertinelli and new52 helema are different characters, there's no need for this black chick to have the same surname as huntress.

>>79681154
>Helena can't be mixed with other race if you will keep his mafia background.
Well, yes she can

It's fiction anon

Also you are assuming this was a random change to appease SJWs and not potentially a significant part of her background

>>79681311
There's was literally nothing Italian about the original Huntress either, apart from the mob boss father storyline, which of itself has very little to do with actual Italian mob bosses. Italians never cared about this character in the first place, since she's not Italian, she's how Americans think Italians are.

>>79681655
>Also you are assuming this was a random change to appease SJWs and not potentially a significant part of her background

It was.

>>79681655
>Also you are assuming this was a random change to appease SJWs and not potentially a significant part of her background
Actually it would have made sense for her to look how she did pre-New 52. Remember Helena Wayne took over Helena B.'s identity on the basis that they looked alike when she came to the main Earth. So I believe they changed her to being black for diversity and ignored the Helena Wayne thing.

I'm fine with her making Helena B. black if it means that Helena Wayne can stay Huntress.

>>79681723
Well she was Italian-American. They lived in Gotham after all.
>>79681655
Bad fiction ignores verisimilitude, though they still haven't gone into her origins so I'm going to remain neutral until they've done so.

>>79681040
god Livewire is so hot and fashionate

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>>79676313
Because she can't stop sleeping with her step brother

>>79681169
because /co/ can't see past skin color

>>79681780
>Remember Helena Wayne took over Helena B.'s identity
and that was retarded, because the only reason that happened was because Levitz thought he was writing a Bertinelli story and had to switch gears halfway through

>>79681586
>I don't think you've ever read anything with Bertinelli before.

Yeah, remember that one story when Helena tried to be part of the Batfamily, got angry at Batman, and then slept with Nightwing? Or that other story when she tried to be part of the Batfamily, got angry at Batman, and then slept with Nightwing? Or wait! There was that one gem of a story where she tried to get into the Batfamily, got angry at Batman, and slept with Nightwing!

>>79672378
>character is not white
>/co/ throws rage fits

never change, 4chan

>>79682164
Levits loves Helena Wayne so he was probably pushing for it to be her and left it vague until he got the okay.

>>79682264
Pretty good oversimplification there. Rucka always treated Huntress well, since she's his type. And in his Huntress stories, she was a central dynamic character who experienced character growth as opposed to a static supporting character in someone else's story.

>>79682273
Please don't pretend you're any better because if a black character was made white you'd shit your panties

>>79682533
I don't have to pretend

>>79681780
She could've put her own photo into the fake id. It wasn't even her only cover identity.

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>>79682093
That's her second best trait.

>>79683202
>Dick Grayson saw Helena Wayne's baby vagina
What a sicko.

>>79682533
Because they are so many white characters already.

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>>79683857
Amd that's the reason why white characters should be replaced by their coloured duplicate?

>>79686287
It wasn't so much a replacement as an improvement to be honest

>>79684707
You're pretty good at that.

> Sicilians
> not brown
Let's be honest. One good thing about the Spyral Helena is that she actually looks Sicilian and not just WASPy Helena Wayne. Hell. She even looks like a Sicilian girl I dated who was asking me what Huntress comics to read. Of course I was hesitant to suggest any since all of Helena's relationships end horribly. Not that it really mattered as things did end pretty quickly with us anyway. Damn you, Helena.

>>79672938
>Sicilian
>Not White

American detected.

>>79687962
>Black hair
>Blue eyes
>WASPy

>>79680651
Isn't that because people were pestering the creators on Twitter, about what her race was?

>white people can't have tanned skin, apparently.

>>79687962
She never looked WASPy..

/co/ getting this triggered over a different, but perfectly acceptable revamp of Huntress. even more dumb considering the absolute travesty so many characters are now in the New 52