>>79670053 It was revealed that he was weakened so it was ok. It should have been obvious since the first scream blew up attilan and all the ones that followed barely harmed the place they fought in. weakened or not BB can't take Thanos in a fist fight he would need his voice.
>>79671531 Technically Black Bolt classifies as what SHOULD be the most dangerous being on Earth. So really he should have, but then that would've fucked up Hickman's plan. So of course BB has to lose and release the Terrigen mists.
You could have had Thanos win in Thanos style of him being one step ahead of everyone and he knew about the Terrigen bomb and in fact triggers it knowing it will weaken BB or something like that. BB is giving Thanos a run for his money and then Thanos sets off the bomb, BB is weakened and give a last ditch scream to try and off Thanos and we get OP's pic.
>>79672209 It's no wonder Master blow hasn't been used in decades. Back when he first did it he was thing tier and the punch was like serious hulk tier. Now he can punch around with hulk, thor, and gladiator at normal, a Master blow at his current strength level would be him punching someone to pluto.
>>79672488 He seems much weaker nowadays, probably the weakest he has ever been since his early version still did matter manipulation.
This. It's part of his charm. He routinely beats the shit out of the Silver Surfer. He managed to withstand Odin's attacks to the point where it enraged him. He stomped the Annihilators fairly quickly.
The only time I recall Thanos jobbing is when he fought the Avengers and when he fought Namor.
>>79672779 Well keep in mind, after 1 master blow BB is completely wiped for a good while. Also, in Inhumans: Silent War, BB is considered strong enough to fight Sentry and be enough of a challenge that Bob wouldn't be able to do anything but fight BB.
Also he should still be able to do matter manipulation. In the Inhumans mini-series (actually I think that was Silent War too) the other Royals were wondering why BB didn't just instantly melt the tanks and other weapons of the mercenaries assembled against them or transumte them to sand or something IIRC.
Honestly, there is a reason people don't mess with the Inhumans and why (in the past at least) whenever BB enters a battle everyone freaks out and breaks out the big guns.
>>79674189 That single shout should have left Thanos unable to do much of anything unless he specifically had some kind of shield to protect himself. He should not have been in a position to just keep walking forward and worst of all muzzle BB with his hand, that should have resulted in Thanos being sans 1 hand.
>>79670053 I'm sure someone already mentioned it, but he jobbed that hard because he expended half of his powers fooling around with his brother to set the Terrigen Mist machine to full power/effectiveness.
>>79670053 >Black Bolt is in fight with Super Strong Guy >Black Bolt loses >Black Bolt fags get butthurt that their husbando didn't win It's World War Hulk all over again. Get over it! Also: Your Husbando Caused Mutant Genocide.
>>79675739 >after 1 master blow BB is completely wiped for a good while That only happened when he did it on the thing, the one he did on Ikaris, and the one he attempted to use on Namor didn't drain him. > the other Royals were wondering why BB didn't just instantly melt the tanks and other weapons of the mercenaries assembled against them or transumte them to sand or something IIRC. That was in Jenkins >>79675843 >#mutantlivesmatter Cyclops pls your dead
>>79670053 No, Thanos is basically Marvel's Final Boss. You're talking about the guy that literally escapes Death because the actual entity itself has a rocky relationship with him. Half his story is him being a rock that he throws at everything to see what finally kills him.
His duty in Marvel is to be a cosmic sentinel that every Cosmic entity is aware of, and lose for the very purpose that if he is taken to his absolute highest, he literally ends Marvel, which is what his most popular story is about.
>>79675963 Both >>79675982>>79675998 are correct but to be more exact, it is a former wrestling term (now part of the wider vernacular) that references when a powerful opponent loses to another in order to make the victor seem more powerful/a bigger threat.
>>79676055 >>#mutantlivesmatter >Cyclops pls your dead Oh you mistunderstand. I don't give a fuck about what happened to the mutants. I'm just a Wandafag who can't help but notice that what Black Bolt did is essentially what Wanda did, but 20x worse. I'm just here to get the hate ball rolling for the X-Fags. Have fun with that!
>>79676061 Except for the fact that the actual cosmic entities can drop him unless he has a cosmic power-up, case in point Deadpool vs Thanos. Death has to power up Thanos and DP for them to fight Eternity and Thanos loses to DP when powered up by the Uni-force.
>>79676269 Wanda DEPOWERED thousands of mutants. several of whom died from complicated caused by using their powers during the depowering (suddenly flight cuts off, etc...). Black Bolt KILLED thousands of mutants after Wanda and Hope empowered a whole bunch of new mutants AND he sterilized any left over mutants. Face it buddy, Blackagar is the new face of Mutant Genocide. Hence my new slogan: Black Bolt is the new Wanda. Make him feel shitty for it.
>>79676343 >did BB know that the mists would sterilize and kill off mutants? I don't think anybody knew about the sterilizing part. Some of the depowered mutants from son of m died but I think some lived. The mist should be killing humans too but I guess it got diluted too much for that.
>>79676499 I don't recall ever reading anything about Thanos being that important, but I hardly consider myself an expert on all things Marvel. However, much like >>79676613 here's another page showing Thanos is not cosmic entity tier and thus not a universe ender without a serious power up.
>>79676713 It very well could just be my bias, so I'm just going to look for that page so I have it anytime this comes up again
It's like that one page with Xavier talking about how dangerous Magneto is because magnetism and 4th foundamental law or something, a cool page for powerlevel talk that I never saved and is forever lost
>>79676343 >I don't recall, did BB know that the mists would sterilize and kill off mutants? If he didn't then it's hardly comparable to Wanda who knew she was removing mutants from the world. Granted but Wanda was losing her mind. BB was of sound mind and didn't care what the mists would do to mutants. Even if it wasn't done with intent, he is still culpable for his actions. If regular Logan weren't frozen in Carbonite, I can only assume he would be trying to Snikt Bolt's ass like he tried to Snikt Wanda's. Hell Slim already tried to take a shot at Bolt and apparently died in the process. Better luck next life Rightclops.
>>79676779 Well I don't think BB really even knew what the mists would do to mutants. His only potential point of knowledge would be with what happened to Quicksilver, but he literally impregnated his body with terrigen crystals (and he also got better). For all BB knew, the diluted mists that don't harm humans shouldn't harm mutants either.
That being said, I agree that he is culpable.
However, back to Wanda, Cyke was in Dark Phoenix mode when he killed Xavier, doesn't mean that people don't hold it against him even though none of the X-Men hold Dark Phoenix shenanigans against Jean.
>>79675777 I didn't post the entire fight, but the first scream detonates the terrigan bomb and blows up the palace. It rips off thanos'so clothes and Black Bolt can only produce weaker screams from that point on, hence the facegrab.
Also, I know Thanos isn't seen as a powerful motherfucker for the most part but he's extraordinarily durable.
>>79676940 >However, back to Wanda, Cyke was in Dark Phoenix mode when he killed Xavier, doesn't mean that people don't hold it against him even though none of the X-Men hold Dark Phoenix shenanigans against Jean. I mostly hold it against Bendis Scott, who would constantly scream "NOT MUH FAULT! PHEONIX!" after Gillen Cyclops (see ACTUAL RIGHTCLOPS) had so eloquently taken responsibility for his actions. See Bendis, this is why you can't Cyclops. Sorry for that aside anon, but I have to chastise Bendis every few minutes for his many, many mistakes. And agreed, state of mind doesn't make someone wholly not responsible, but I'd still say Black Bolt's actions are more harmful to Homo Superior than Wanda's actions. Wanda caused mutant genocide in only the textbook definition. No more mutants were born because those who were depowered couldn't sire new people with X-Genes. But they could still have children. Black Bolt has LITERALLY caused mutant genocide by killing/sterilizing the entire mutant race.
>>79677167 Oh I know Thanos is incredibly powerful, there's a reason he's part of Cosmic Marvel. It's just a full throated blast from BB is considered a cosmic event and Thanos does not easily survive those. Then again considering the Earth was still standing it wasn't a full power blast but still, it would have been better if they had beaten each other to a draw or Thanos pulled out some clever plan to win rather than just face palm BB.
>>79677428 Ah, ok. I get where you're coming from now on the Cyclops thing and fully agree. Bendis just writes stories he likes and ignores everything else about a character most of the time so it's kinda expected.
>>79677641 Of course he survived it, he was the one who absorbed all of reality, shortly before having a conversation with Adam Warlock and remaking it almost exactly as it was, with minor alterations.
>>79676061 >>79676079 >>79676093 Just picked up on a Starlin trend I hadn't noticed before. When he wants to show Thanos wasting someone highly regarded in the Marvel U, he shows Thanos knocking their hat or helmet off to make them look foolish, or signify a reduction in status.
>>79677641 Besides, you're talking about The End, where Thanos had a cosmic power up, the Heart of the Universe, that allowed him to do all that, that's not something he can do on his own.
BB tears wholes in the universe with his voice, sometimes he needs some help to focus it, but the sheer raw power is his.
>>79677834 Thor can definitely not take on Thanos, the Sentry is a maybe. All out Sentry is supposedly the most powerful being in the Marvel Universe that is not a celestial entity and even then he can give some of those guys a run for their money.
Let's keep in mind here, Thanos is essentially the most powerful a character can get in Marvel without crossing over into cosmic entity tier. A character needs to be able to at least semi-casually oneshot a planet to be in his league.
>>79678014 They specifically said he was the biggest threat besides Gladiator is kinda of a bullshitter himself. Like how he punched Vulcan and despite his ridiculous that eye won't heal because Gladiator was REALLY confident while doing it.
>>79678032 He got teleported out of the cancerverse by Dick rider, at no point do they say BB was storing screams the reason he had to go with the bomb is because he had to power it, and vulcan wasn't powering the bomb their fight fucking up the machinery caused it to malfunction.
>>79677984 >Thor can definitely not take on Thanos, the Sentry is a maybe. I would say that it depends what era we're talking about. At the end of Infinity Gauntlet, Thor used Mjolnir to send Thanos flying, appearing to the others to lead to Thanos's destruction by a bomb. It was actually a ploy to make them think he was dead, as he retired to a farm to rethink his place in the cosmos, but keep in mind, he had earlier in Thanos Quest, said he was wary to take on the Hulk. I don't think that Thanos could have endured Black Bolt's scream at point plank range.
>>79678094 >he had earlier in Thanos Quest, said he was wary to take on the Hulk
I think it's more of a writer preference because it doesn't sound consistent if Thanos is wary of taking on Hulk when he can casually beat the shit out of guys like Drax and The Silver Surfer. Jim Starlin has said that Hulk is his favorite Marvel hero, and Starlin let him get some good hits in the last time they fought.
>>79678401 >I think it's more of a writer preference Yeah, you can easily tell Starlin's favourites. You can also tell which characters he doesn't like, he had Thanos and beat up, insult and utterly humiliate Ronan the Accuser in a way that seemed extremely petty.
>>79678057 Sentry has done some bullshit in his time
>Breaking Terrax's Axe >Tanking full retard Hulk blows and casually coming close to destroying Earth at the same time >Fighting Galactus to a standstill >Tanking Blackbolt's voice >Ripping an Olympian in half >Tearing Adamantium >Dr Strange was legitimately afraid the the Void would end the universe
To anybody saying blackbolts screams could destroy planets, the after effects of one of thanos' fights with classic Drax destroyed a planet, and thanos was unfazed. If anything this is a low showing for him.
Thanos is one of the few characters, who are considered to be in a weird, nameless tier above high heralds and below skyfathers. Thanos will beat pretty much any high herald, including Silver Surfer and Thor, even at the same time. But he will lose to high end skyfathers like Odin.
Some fans call his tier the trans level tier.
Black Bolt on the other hand has the physical stats of a mid herald level character. Not on the same level as Thor or more recent versions of the Hulk. But what he lacks in physicals, he makes up for with his destructive ability. So he is somewhat of a glass canon, like Cyclops, who can do more damage than he can absorb.
But even the damage Black Bolt can do has its limit and Thanos durability surpasses that limit.
>>79673661 Well he did have enhancing devices that stored his power somehow into a built up source (somehow) for him to be able to rip reality.
But honestly, this is fucking Black Bolt. The guy who got captured by skrulls, with nobody noticing or questioned him losing to The Hulk. I sometimes have no idea if Blackbolt is sometimes written too weak or too strong.
>>79675038 >So surprised how no one is talking about that tie-in Every Secret Wars thread we had was filled with people saying that it's the best tie-in. People aren't talking about it anymore because SW is over so we generally don't have SW tie-in threads anymore.
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