>>79187128 modern simpsons is kind of a microcosm of everything wrong with the modern day. Instead of TALENTED celebrity guests, they have flash-in-the-pan trendy hip ones. Instead of home-computer-use getting respect, it gets skipped over entirely in favor of nigga technology and social media.
>>79187284 I realized I relate more to Homer when I found myself thinking the only good reason I have to keep trying to stay thin is to not die early, when I spent almost an entire work day only wanting a beer and some donut holes, and when I spent the drive home thinking about taking a shower and watching the news with a bowl of popcorn wearing only a bathrobe and slippers.
>>79187869 But the way they executed it was piss poor.
It has joke about an oversized penis, which you'd expect to see in Family guy; it tries to pull heartstrings by killing a character, but fails because of the off-key humor and the fact that no one cares about Maude Flanders (not even the original voice actress, apparently); it goes on for minute after minute on two painfully unfunny sequences (NASCAR and Ned's dating), it's just a disaster from start to finish.
If "Saddlesore" began the leap over the shark, this episode was the stuck landing on waterskis.
Also the structure of society has changed since the 1980's, with the blue-collar class that the Simpsons belong to becoming significantly poorer and more insecure.
A realistic modern Simpsons would have a stressed out Marge and Homer working at multiple part time jobs and arguing fretfully about their credit card debts in between, while their neglected kids get bullied online (Lisa) or gleefully post in rekt threads (Bart).
Has Spongebob ever used an ipad or smartphone? Or some sort of aquatic equivalent of the two. It's about the only other long runner I can think of in which an instance of modern technology doesn't really happen. Even fucking Looney Tunes has Bugs with a smartphone now.
>>79187198 even if they killed them they'd be back, they are rebooting fucking rugrats and bringing back the x-files, everything that had any success in the 90's is getting resurrected because no one wants to take any creative risks.
>>79187128 In of itself, no. What does bother me is the obsessive, ridiculous need to hammer technology references down the viewer's throat for the sake of it. There's nothing funny or satirical about it like when Bill Gates bought out Homer's online business. It's just gratuitous "Oh look, we have to show X character using an iDevice to prove how hip we are."
The 00s were like an "updated" version of the late 90s until 2006-2007ish or so. That's when the Gen Z bieber iPhone 2010s culture started. Kids stopped playing outside and became spoiled brain-dead shits. Pluto stopped being a planet. 90s shows on TV ended. 9/11 babies turned 6 and got phones in kindergarten. The Internet lost all its uniqueness.
>>79188347 >The 60s were like an updated version of the late 50s until 1966-67 or so. That's when the druggie psychedelic weed smoking, draft-dodging culture started. Kids stopped respecting their elders and became smelly, long-haired shits. Shows like Leave It To Beaver ended, kids who were too young to remember Kennedy being president turned 6, etc.
>The 70s were like an updated version of the late 60s until 1976-77 or so. That's when the disco dancing/punk rock culture started. Kids stopped caring about the Rolling Stones and started wearing faggy Mohawks. Shows like The Brady Bunch ended, kids who were too young to remember the moon landings turned 6.
>The 80s were like an updated version of the late 60s until 1986-87 or so. That's when Nintendo took over video games. Kids stopped caring about Atari and started playing Castlevania instead. Shows like Three's Company ended, kids who were too young to remember the Miracle On Ice turned 6.
>The 90s were like an updated version of the late 80s until 1996-97 or so. That's when arcades died and gaming went 3D. Kids stopped caring about alternative rock and started listening to faggy boybands and pop punk. Shows like Rocko's Modern Life ended, kids who were too young to remember the Soviet Union existing turned 6.
I'm not "weirded out" by it because the show was always meant to be set in the present, not forever 1989 or something. Even when the show was good you'd have things like an entire episode about Michael Jackson being the shit in the early '90s, then Bart talking about how he's creepy in a mid-90s episode.
Of course the show sucking is now a problem, as is relying on modern technology as the only joke in a lot of cases when it appears. But its appearance at all doesn't bother me, and if the show had somehow managed to maintain a high level of quality over the years it would only seem natural for it to continue to comment on modern shit. It's just doing that commentary in a shitty way.
>>79187972 I dunno about others, but computers around that time were still a "oh shit" thing where I lived. One person in the entire neighborhood might own one. Like this kid's parents had that? Lets go over to their place and hang out!
I wouldn't say the characters look like they're specifically from the '90s so much as they just are drawn simply (Marge and Homer are more like 1950/60 sitcom stereotypes) but the level of detail of new characters doesn't match.
>>79188557 This does bring up an interesting point. A decade is usually often the same as the last up until the 5th, 6th, or 7th year when it really comes into its own.
Take the 80s for example. The politics, music, fashion, and general culture that defined the 1980s stretched beyond the technical definition. Many see the entire first half of the 1990s as simply a continuation of the 1980s, and the last few years of the 1970s as a precursor to the 1980s.
Broadest definitions of the 1980s can typically range from 1977, the year Jimmy Carter became president, to 1994, the year that the internet became easily accessible to the public.
Ex: I know the movie "China Moon" was released in 1994, but look at the way everyone's dressed, the music, the type of film used. Anyone who says that it's not an 80s movie is kidding themselves.
Also: you're telling me that Gary Numan's "Cars" isn't an 80s song just because it was released in 1979? That's a lie
>>79187414 They never really focused on Bart if you consider each season. It was always shared between Homer and Bart. It was the marketing that focused on Bart because he was everything you hated in the kids of his generation
>>79189012 For instance, in 1978-79, some albums like Spirits Having Flown, Some Girls, and Who Are You are clearly rooted in the 70s while others like Parallel Lines, Stained Class, Van Halen S/T, and Overkill seem to predict the 80s.
90-92 were kind of the leftover fumes of the 80s, but when Clinton became president, the 80s were completely and totally over. Extreme fashions with big hair and bright colors disappeared, most of the 80s metal bands started fading from relevance, and fundie Christians stopped being front and center of American politics (things took a dramatic turn towards leftist SJW-ism in 93-94).
>>79188974 Not to mention Dr. Hibbert, who is basically Bill Cosby's character on The Cosby show, or Mayor Quimby, who is a parody of the Kennedy family and the perception of Democrats at the time in general. Krusty is very clearly Bozo, who still had his show. Rainier Wolfcastle is Schwarzenegger, whose career stalled in the mid-90s. The last new nuclear power plant started construction in 1996.
>>79189089 >I want the next era to actually not be as shit as things are now. china is about to disappear up it's own asshole, all the old asshole oil exporters of the world are about to throw major death tantrums, and Europe's leadership class is totally fucking itself for no reason on the refugee situation. the only highlights are oil and natural gas staying cheap in the US and the robotics boom that's about to hit maturity, and even that boom is going to have a great deal of angst when it wipes out a bung of entry level jobs.
>>79189335 Well...yeah. I mean, the 70s started when everything was hippies/protests/long hair/Rolling Stones/The Who, etc. By the time Carter was president, the counterculture era was a distant memory, the rock groups associated with that period weren't relevant anymore, punk and metal were rising up, and you also had the beginnings of video games and computers. Cars were also getting smaller, boxier, and more fuel-efficient.
>>79189423 I think there is some merit to the notion that things are moving more quickly. I mean, you see it easily in media consumption. Trends come and go much more quickly now than they did even a few decades ago.
>>79189746 Not really. The level of devastation happening 200 years ago only applied to certain major cities and some of them DID get fucked hard. Today's destruction is world wide. You can not travel anywhere in the world today without seeing something man fucked up.
The best part is that this process is only ACCELERATING. There is literally a point where the planet will not take it any more and we either have to learn to live in shit, die from it, or not shit things up so much in the first place.
>>79190254 No party/demographic that ever invoked censorship and intense control of any kind ever ended in history books in a positive light, think about it. For people that like to throw around the "right side of history" sentence, they sure seem to be far away from it.
>>79190151 Part of the old era, that kind of thinking has been stewing and brewing since the early 80s. They will come back again to find something else to complain about though, no century has ever been without their inquisition.
I don't have any of this "back in my day" shit but very recently I've gotten sick to death or gadgets and apps, like the iWatch. There aren't really an unliminted supply of these new things that are useful or even fun but they keep trying to force it.
>>79190351 the earth isn't a living thing its a rock with a spred of ever changing, Competing ecosystems, the "The earth is about die!!!111" is a pseudoscience meme that is pushed because it fills a religious need in a post religious society and offers fantastic opportunities for those in power to gain more power. >inb4: butbut I prayed to the science Gods! if your assertion requires excommunication of those critical and you have to take measures to hid your research data, you aren't engaged in science.
>>79190254 Maybe in a hundred years time they will be, but the further along you go the more they'll just become a footnote about the politics of this time. Early feminists will be remembered for getting women the right to vote, but no one's going to care that some 21st century feminist got a movie changed or whatever.
>>79190637 While doomsaying is a meme as old as civilization, the power of technological progress is not. Man is absolutely capable of more industry than 200 years ago, and man will absolutely have more powerful industry 200 years from now. The question of changing the planet is not a question of IF. It is a question of WHEN, and the science is mostly clueless about what the results will actually be. That's pretty scary and it SHOULD be.
>>79191247 > all Even THAT assertion is becoming more clouded thanks to boosts in medical science. Sure YOU will be dead, but there will be hundred year old billionaires who might take offense to losing their million acre pastures. Or they just might say "fuckit" and put everything they care about under a dome. Who knows.
has there been an oculus ep yet? cause there probably will be one that tries to be >lol VR ami rite?! lulx! then 4-7 years later it will be a ham-fisted >look we are modern now! plot tool. just look at the Bart gets a cellphone ep from way back.
>>79191210 manmade envirohype has almost completely blinded us to being ready for completely natural environmental calamities, trying to destroy middleclass living conditions doesn't do anything to prepare for the things that we don't know about that were going to happen anyway.
>>79191505 global temps are driven by the sun, there has been a pause in solar activity since the 90's and hey what do you know, that's how long its been since temps went up, what happens when we slide into an extended cooling period?
>>79190525 there was more obvious progress to be made back then, like ending segregation. the current complaining is more about censoring words and opinions that are injurious to the feefees which is anti-progressive if anything.
>>79192250 segregation still exists, it's just not legal any more
the current complaining is the same as the complaining back then; it's easy to focus on things that irritate you and be dismissive of them
the current progress is things like the Supreme Court throwing out Arkansas' abortion law changes - which were opposed by the governor but passed in record time by the state legislature - because you can't overturn stare decisis without supplying new evidence, and even the state's medical experts never tried to offer any new evidence to support the changes to the law; but the resistance to that law came from civil rights activists
civil rights movements don't die out, any more than assholes who think they own you die out
world without end; sometimes progress is standing still
>>79192544 and that's a the real problem, the movement needed to transition to a more subtle and inclusive strategy, but that's hard and doesn't give victimhood credits, burning bridges to the outside and self marginalizing keeps the familiar battle alive at the cost of future generations.
>>79187284 That's what my brother told me a few years back, that it was strange to him how he related so much to Bart and his rebellious personality when he was a kid but now as an adult and with kids if his own he fpund Bart more annoying and that he felt more in tune with Homer.
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