Is anybody else weirded out when they see The Simpsons with

>>79187128
Honestly, yes. I feel it shouldn't weird me out, but it absolutely bothers me.

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Far out man, I haven't seen a bong in years.

>>79187128

I stopped watching right around "Mapple" becoming an in-universe thing.

Honestly from a show that used to do 10/10 parody, this is just insulting.

>>79187128
Yeah but mostly because itd for the purpose of lame "trendy" jokes.

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>>79187128

they weren't meant to last till this long.

>>79187128
I remember when they started using a fucking computer, like 15 years after they became standard in real households.

With the sliding timeline, how many of the old episodes would've been resolved with today's technology?

>>79187146
>not the layout from The Simpsons: Hit and Run

>>79187180
Why does their Steve Jobs speak with a lisp? The real Jobs never spoke with a lisp.

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How do you feel about knowing you'll be as old as Homer?

>>79187212

The episode with the Mr. X website never quite sat right with me. Something about The Simpsons having a computer just doesn't add up.

Not to mention they hardly ever show Lisa reading anymore. It's all her on her "M"Apple computer.

>>79187259

Honestly it's kind of surreal. I mean, I know everybody ages, but it's weird to see my focus shifting from relating to Bart to relating to Homer.

>>79187128
>boohoo modern technology in my cartoons
fuck off

>>79187287
But that wasn't OP's point.

remember the episode where they pawned the TV to afford therapy

>>79187128
modern simpsons is kind of a microcosm of everything wrong with the modern day. Instead of TALENTED celebrity guests, they have flash-in-the-pan trendy hip ones. Instead of home-computer-use getting respect, it gets skipped over entirely in favor of nigga technology and social media.

>>79187287
in a cartoon that's been around since the late eighties

>>79187284
it kinda already did that in like the 5th season though. focusing on bart is a really old thing they mostly dropped when it was clear homer was more interesting

>>79187414

Well yeah, I understand the show's focus changing from Bart to Homer, but when I was 10 watching the show I definitely related more to Bart's life than I did to Homer's.

>>79187212

its becuase for the first ten years of the show tehy are supposed to be poor.

>>79187284
I realized I relate more to Homer when I found myself thinking the only good reason I have to keep trying to stay thin is to not die early, when I spent almost an entire work day only wanting a beer and some donut holes, and when I spent the drive home thinking about taking a shower and watching the news with a bowl of popcorn wearing only a bathrobe and slippers.

>>79187390
>home-computer-use getting respect
what the fuck

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Is season 11 classic Simpsons, neo Simpsons, or transitional Simpsons?

>>79187581
it's the 'turn left dale! noooooo' simpsons

>>79187581

Transitional, by far.

>>79187128
It would be a lot funnier if they had kept the out dated tech like the rabbit ear antennas and curly wired phones.

>>79187581
I remember this being hyped up so much, everyone in my town was talking about it, I'm glade it wasn't a cop out, good on them

>>79187128
the weirdest thing is people still watching the simpsons

>>79187869
But the way they executed it was piss poor.

It has joke about an oversized penis, which you'd expect to see in Family guy; it tries to pull heartstrings by killing a character, but fails because of the off-key humor and the fact that no one cares about Maude Flanders (not even the original voice actress, apparently); it goes on for minute after minute on two painfully unfunny sequences (NASCAR and Ned's dating), it's just a disaster from start to finish.

If "Saddlesore" began the leap over the shark, this episode was the stuck landing on waterskis.

>>79187267
>Something about The Simpsons having a computer just doesn't add up

The show started in 1990. You think there were no computers back then?

Also the structure of society has changed since the 1980's, with the blue-collar class that the Simpsons belong to becoming significantly poorer and more insecure.

A realistic modern Simpsons would have a stressed out Marge and Homer working at multiple part time jobs and arguing fretfully about their credit card debts in between, while their neglected kids get bullied online (Lisa) or gleefully post in rekt threads (Bart).

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>>79187224
>With the sliding timeline, how many of the old episodes would've been resolved with today's technology?
They still hold up quite well.

>>79187146

I refuse to belive Springfield has such a perfect grid system on such a small town.

Has Spongebob ever used an ipad or smartphone? Or some sort of aquatic equivalent of the two. It's about the only other long runner I can think of in which an instance of modern technology doesn't really happen. Even fucking Looney Tunes has Bugs with a smartphone now.

>>79187991
If anything Bart would have a folder full of /tv/ memes.

>>79188069
that football show with the 90s CGI intro, where one guy clotheslines another guy whose head flies off

also that absolutely on point Eye On Springfield intro music and art, which i'm literally old enough to recognise the inspiration

TWO FOUR SIX EIGHT HOMER'S CRIME WAS REALLY GREAT

>>79187972
a significant portion of 4chan thinks 2006 was in the "early days of the internet"

>>79187128
no

>>79187972
I mean, my dad bought an Atari 800 in 1981; that was his first computer.

>>79187198
even if they killed them they'd be back, they are rebooting fucking rugrats and bringing back the x-files, everything that had any success in the 90's is getting resurrected because no one wants to take any creative risks.

>>79187128
In of itself, no. What does bother me is the obsessive, ridiculous need to hammer technology references down the viewer's throat for the sake of it. There's nothing funny or satirical about it like when Bill Gates bought out Homer's online business. It's just gratuitous "Oh look, we have to show X character using an iDevice to prove how hip we are."

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>>79188219
They've got a point.

The 00s were like an "updated" version of the late 90s until 2006-2007ish or so. That's when the Gen Z bieber iPhone 2010s culture started. Kids stopped playing outside and became spoiled brain-dead shits. Pluto stopped being a planet. 90s shows on TV ended. 9/11 babies turned 6 and got phones in kindergarten. The Internet lost all its uniqueness.

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>>79188347
holy fug just kill yourself

>>79188127
>Does a kids about a talking sponge that takes place underwater have smartphones

I'll give you two guesses.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=_64E7sQyxEE

https://youtube.com/watch?v=YNrn-7zjmYw

>>79188469
they have a beach on the bottom of the ocean.
with life guards.

>>79187364
Remember when they bought the exact same tv model they sold in one episode

>>79187936
Not to mention it wasn't done out of "balls" at all. They did it because her voice actress asked for a raise because she had to travel for her work and they didn't want to pay her more.

>>79188347
>The 60s were like an updated version of the late 50s until 1966-67 or so. That's when the druggie psychedelic weed smoking, draft-dodging culture started. Kids stopped respecting their elders and became smelly, long-haired shits. Shows like Leave It To Beaver ended, kids who were too young to remember Kennedy being president turned 6, etc.

>The 70s were like an updated version of the late 60s until 1976-77 or so. That's when the disco dancing/punk rock culture started. Kids stopped caring about the Rolling Stones and started wearing faggy Mohawks. Shows like The Brady Bunch ended, kids who were too young to remember the moon landings turned 6.

>The 80s were like an updated version of the late 60s until 1986-87 or so. That's when Nintendo took over video games. Kids stopped caring about Atari and started playing Castlevania instead. Shows like Three's Company ended, kids who were too young to remember the Miracle On Ice turned 6.

>The 90s were like an updated version of the late 80s until 1996-97 or so. That's when arcades died and gaming went 3D. Kids stopped caring about alternative rock and started listening to faggy boybands and pop punk. Shows like Rocko's Modern Life ended, kids who were too young to remember the Soviet Union existing turned 6.

Your point being...?

>>79187259
Why are young Homer and Marge from the 90s dressed like young Homer and Marge from the 70s?

I'm not "weirded out" by it because the show was always meant to be set in the present, not forever 1989 or something. Even when the show was good you'd have things like an entire episode about Michael Jackson being the shit in the early '90s, then Bart talking about how he's creepy in a mid-90s episode.

Of course the show sucking is now a problem, as is relying on modern technology as the only joke in a lot of cases when it appears. But its appearance at all doesn't bother me, and if the show had somehow managed to maintain a high level of quality over the years it would only seem natural for it to continue to comment on modern shit. It's just doing that commentary in a shitty way.

>>79187972
I dunno about others, but computers around that time were still a "oh shit" thing where I lived. One person in the entire neighborhood might own one. Like this kid's parents had that? Lets go over to their place and hang out!

>>79188626

What bothers me is all the old characters still looking like 90's characters, and the new characters have modern clothes and and a slightly different, more morden art style.

>>79188734
Yeah, I agree with that.

I wouldn't say the characters look like they're specifically from the '90s so much as they just are drawn simply (Marge and Homer are more like 1950/60 sitcom stereotypes) but the level of detail of new characters doesn't match.

>>79188734
>What bothers me is all the old characters still looking like 90's characters

Some of the characters are outdated early 90s stereotypes like Ned Flanders and Otto.

>>79188804
The writers said on one DVD commentary that "Marge and Homer are really based on our parents in the 60s-70s. They're not necessarily supposed to represent 90s parents."

>>79188834

I don't care that the old characters still look and act the same, just that the new characters have much more detail than the old ones, like >>79188804 said.

>>79188557
We're not talking about that those decades though

>>79188834
Ok...though I'm not exactly sure what you mean. Please elaborate?

>>79188896
thepointyourhead.jpg

I meant that this claim of >>79188347's can be applied to almost any previous decade.

>>79188900
>Ned Flanders
Stereotype 80s-early 90s fundie Christian (the Reagan-Bush years were back when fundie Christians were extremely powerful and had a lot of political pull).

>Otto
Typical Gen X slacker metalhead.

To put things in an early 90s context, Otto would be hanging out at Slayer shows while Flanders would be at one of those church rallies they had where they'd burn a pile of metal cassettes.

>>79188557
This does bring up an interesting point. A decade is usually often the same as the last up until the 5th, 6th, or 7th year when it really comes into its own.

Take the 80s for example. The politics, music, fashion, and general culture that defined the 1980s stretched beyond the technical definition. Many see the entire first half of the 1990s as simply a continuation of the 1980s, and the last few years of the 1970s as a precursor to the 1980s.

Broadest definitions of the 1980s can typically range from 1977, the year Jimmy Carter became president, to 1994, the year that the internet became easily accessible to the public.

Ex: I know the movie "China Moon" was released in 1994, but look at the way everyone's dressed, the music, the type of film used. Anyone who says that it's not an 80s movie is kidding themselves.

Also: you're telling me that Gary Numan's "Cars" isn't an 80s song just because it was released in 1979? That's a lie

>>79187414
They never really focused on Bart if you consider each season. It was always shared between Homer and Bart. It was the marketing that focused on Bart because he was everything you hated in the kids of his generation

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>>79188347
>>79188557
>>79189012

I hadn't thought about it till now but man I can't wait for this era to end.

I want the next era to actually not be as shit as things are now.

>>79189012
For instance, in 1978-79, some albums like Spirits Having Flown, Some Girls, and Who Are You are clearly rooted in the 70s while others like Parallel Lines, Stained Class, Van Halen S/T, and Overkill seem to predict the 80s.

>>79187246
The real Steve Jobs never did half the things people say he did.

>>79189012

It kind of seems like the first half of a decade is the previous decade advancing, then the second half is realizing that stuff doesn't thrill like it used to, so it evolves/changes in response.

>everything from 2010 onwards

God, I'm scared at where we're going.

>>79187490
That won't do in today's climate. Because now being poor means you're a bad person.

>>79187128
I haven't watched the Simpsons in years.

90-92 were kind of the leftover fumes of the 80s, but when Clinton became president, the 80s were completely and totally over. Extreme fashions with big hair and bright colors disappeared, most of the 80s metal bands started fading from relevance, and fundie Christians stopped being front and center of American politics (things took a dramatic turn towards leftist SJW-ism in 93-94).

>>79188974
Not to mention Dr. Hibbert, who is basically Bill Cosby's character on The Cosby show, or Mayor Quimby, who is a parody of the Kennedy family and the perception of Democrats at the time in general. Krusty is very clearly Bozo, who still had his show. Rainier Wolfcastle is Schwarzenegger, whose career stalled in the mid-90s. The last new nuclear power plant started construction in 1996.

>>79189089
>I want the next era to actually not be as shit as things are now.
china is about to disappear up it's own asshole, all the old asshole oil exporters of the world are about to throw major death tantrums, and Europe's leadership class is totally fucking itself for no reason on the refugee situation.
the only highlights are oil and natural gas staying cheap in the US and the robotics boom that's about to hit maturity, and even that boom is going to have a great deal of angst when it wipes out a bung of entry level jobs.

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>>79189012
It's almost as if the distinct eras of human culture aren't bound by something as arbitrary as the start and end of a decade

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>>79189324

why the fuck did we let this happen?

we're fucked aren't we?

>>79189379
Yeah. Let's all blame Willis.

>>79189335
don't be silly, only ancient times are measured in long stretches of time
we're in modern times, the age of the information highway! Ages of humanity go by day by day!

>>79189335
Well...yeah. I mean, the 70s started when everything was hippies/protests/long hair/Rolling Stones/The Who, etc. By the time Carter was president, the counterculture era was a distant memory, the rock groups associated with that period weren't relevant anymore, punk and metal were rising up, and you also had the beginnings of video games and computers. Cars were also getting smaller, boxier, and more fuel-efficient.

>>79189423
I think there is some merit to the notion that things are moving more quickly. I mean, you see it easily in media consumption. Trends come and go much more quickly now than they did even a few decades ago.

>>79189396
Fuck you Willis. Why you gotta kill the Chinese Economy?

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>>79189379
Yes, the Earth will be finally fed up with our shit and stop turning.

Never in the history of humanity has there been mass migration, a drastic decline in the value of natural resources and emerging technologies that threaten to put manual labour into the history books.

>>79189469
Globalisation is like amphetamines for culture.

>>79189532

This shit actually kind of freaks me out. We're on a clear path to destruction and yet nobody gives two fucks as long as they have their comfort zones.

It's freaky to see how little people care about the long-term effects of our "go go go" culture.

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>>79188469

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>>79189606
The same shit was happening 200 years ago yet here you are

>>79187128
The Simpsons is a very 90s family and show. Modern technology just always sticks out, especially in how barely caricatured it is. It's just... there.

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>>79189606
Do I even have to say it?

>>79189379
We're basically at the point where if governments wanted to invest in it we could all have robots doing our jobs but since that would mean the abolition of money, no one wants it.

>>79189746
Well yeah, but it's different this time

>>79189423
This is 100% true
Everything is more volatile because of the age of information

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>>79187128
What it weirds me out is how they made a flashback episode about young Marge and Homer relationship IN THE FUCKING 90's

>>79189790
The only thing that is more swift is the recopilation of information. We can notice changes because it's easier to register them when everybody is watching everybody else 24/7.

>>79188869
I watched that episode recently and I cringed

>>79187146
I can't find Moe's.

>>79188069
22 years later, people finally aren't laughing anymore

>>79187146
The town's layout keeps changing, this map is useless.

>>79189222
There was a recent Simpsons episode that parodied The Expendables and McBain looks old and washed up, like real-life Schwarzenegger. It was so weird

>>79189012
>>79188557
>>79189089
>>79189118
Is the "SJW" and "safe space" craze part of the "new 2010s" era, or is it remnants of the old era that is slowly dying out (and will be dead by 2017)?

I don't remember any of this shit being popular around 2010-2013.

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>>79190151
>SJWs and femnazis will be in textbooks, but will be praised for being "progressive" and portrayed as the "hero" of their era

>>79190151
It's not going to die out, not any more than previous civil rights advancements did.

>>79189379
It was inevitable anon. What comes next...who knows?

>>79190293
Prepare to be labeled a rapist for not letting a tranny buttfuck you against your will.

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>>79189746
Not really. The level of devastation happening 200 years ago only applied to certain major cities and some of them DID get fucked hard. Today's destruction is world wide. You can not travel anywhere in the world today without seeing something man fucked up.

The best part is that this process is only ACCELERATING. There is literally a point where the planet will not take it any more and we either have to learn to live in shit, die from it, or not shit things up so much in the first place.

>>79190254

Or they could be portrayed like New Left intellectuals of the late 1960s (I think, don't quote me on that): ineffectual idiots who spouted worthless slogans about ideas nobody cared about.

>>79190336
I'm not sure what that has to do with what I'm saying?

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>>79190254
No party/demographic that ever invoked censorship and intense control of any kind ever ended in history books in a positive light, think about it.
For people that like to throw around the "right side of history" sentence, they sure seem to be far away from it.

>>79190270
>It's not going to die out, not any more than previous civil rights advancements did.
>fat shaming, rape culture and "gibs me oscars yo"
>civil rights

Your head is so far up your ass.

>>79190392
Oh, meant for >>79190270

>>79190151
Part of the old era, that kind of thinking has been stewing and brewing since the early 80s.
They will come back again to find something else to complain about though, no century has ever been without their inquisition.

>>79188347

I don't have any of this "back in my day" shit but very recently I've gotten sick to death or gadgets and apps, like the iWatch. There aren't really an unliminted supply of these new things that are useful or even fun but they keep trying to force it.

>>79190525
Blacks and women are human beings.

>>79187128
I wouldn't even care if they used generic smartphones and shit.

But nope, every fucking thing they use has to reference a brand in some way or form.

>>79187128
Yes, I'm not sure why.
I wouldn't be weirded out if Shaggy whips out a tablet.

>>79190571
Are you implying some people aren't? Because dehumanizing people is a pretty bad thing. That's what leads to underclasses and genocide.

>>79190525
Yes, remember how a century ago people advocated for a stop to eating meat and wearing fur, boy did we follow on that and in no way mock those brave fighters.

Also considering the results with blacks you shouldn't exactly hold that as any sort of victory.

>>79190351
the earth isn't a living thing its a rock with a spred of ever changing, Competing ecosystems, the "The earth is about die!!!111" is a pseudoscience meme that is pushed because it fills a religious need in a post religious society and offers fantastic opportunities for those in power to gain more power.
>inb4: butbut I prayed to the science Gods!
if your assertion requires excommunication of those critical and you have to take measures to hid your research data, you aren't engaged in science.

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>>79187390
>nigga technology
what

>>79187259

Anyone has that screen cap that explains that Springfield is inside a time bubble?

>>79189951
Just north of the junior high school.

>>79190701
He's mad that people he sees as inferior can afford modern conveniences like smartphones.

>>79190614
This is 4chan. Anyone who isn't a straight white male who want to marry a cartoon character is subhuman. Even the chinese people who make the cartoons aren't that human

>>79187128
I worry less about the technology and how desperate they try to force Bart and Lisa in adult situations.

>>79189757

Man, that game was fucking spot on

>>79190571
Citation desperately needed.

>>79190254
Maybe in a hundred years time they will be, but the further along you go the more they'll just become a footnote about the politics of this time. Early feminists will be remembered for getting women the right to vote, but no one's going to care that some 21st century feminist got a movie changed or whatever.

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>>79187128
Yes. I hate the ipad and google glasses episodes as well

>>79190637
While doomsaying is a meme as old as civilization, the power of technological progress is not. Man is absolutely capable of more industry than 200 years ago, and man will absolutely have more powerful industry 200 years from now. The question of changing the planet is not a question of IF. It is a question of WHEN, and the science is mostly clueless about what the results will actually be. That's pretty scary and it SHOULD be.

>>79191210
Who cares? We all be dead by then.

>>79191247
While The Simpsons continues on.

>>79191247
> all
Even THAT assertion is becoming more clouded thanks to boosts in medical science. Sure YOU will be dead, but there will be hundred year old billionaires who might take offense to losing their million acre pastures. Or they just might say "fuckit" and put everything they care about under a dome. Who knows.

has there been an oculus ep yet?
cause there probably will be one that tries to be
>lol VR ami rite?! lulx!
then 4-7 years later it will be a ham-fisted
>look we are modern now!
plot tool.
just look at the Bart gets a cellphone ep from way back.

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>>79187128

Are all those cartoon writers generic, old-fashioned parents?

>All this technology is making us antisocial’
>I cant understand Instagram or Facebook, but make parodies of this
>Every character with iphones,(when Android have 95% of marketshare)
>Tech = evil

>>79191210
manmade envirohype has almost completely blinded us to being ready for completely natural environmental calamities, trying to destroy middleclass living conditions doesn't do anything to prepare for the things that we don't know about that were going to happen anyway.

>>79187246
Cuz his middle name is "Givsblo"

>>79191424
>completely natural environmental calamities
Uh. What are seismographs, weather radars, cloud seeding, crop selection, flexible foundations and basically everything else?

Mankind has been preparing for natural disasters since the dawn of history. The disaster that ISN'T being addressed to is the one we're making all by ourselves.

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>>79191409

Just because you blurt out every passing half-baked thought into a media outlet that just happens to have other people using it does not mean you are socializing.

>>79191514
Not him, I hate social media but that "message" and plot are so fucking overused, they have been for the past 5 years.

>>79191505
>The disaster that ISN'T being addressed to is the one we're making all by ourselves.

Aliens?

>>79191505
global temps are driven by the sun, there has been a pause in solar activity since the 90's and hey what do you know, that's how long its been since temps went up, what happens when we slide into an extended cooling period?

>>79189532
The mass migration is due to a hunt for free handouts from the western world, not resources. If it were fear, they'd send the women and children first, or at least take them, too.

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>>79191591
Suuure thing kiddo. Keep believing that.

>>79191650
>free handouts

>>79191589
Massive muslim immigration.

>>79190772

>desperate they try to force Bart and Lisa in adult situations.

I remember how Bart has 10 girlfriends, but he never scored , when modern america girlfriends are on-demand sluts

>>79189012
>Also: you're telling me that Gary Numan's "Cars" isn't an 80s song just because it was released in 1979? That's a lie
If it wasn't released in the 80's, it's not an 80's song you faggot.

>>79190362
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKFuBOuxUgk

>>79190525
there was more obvious progress to be made back then, like ending segregation. the current complaining is more about censoring words and opinions that are injurious to the feefees which is anti-progressive if anything.

>>79187578
it went straight from nerdy to grandpas. that isnt fair.

>>79192250
segregation still exists, it's just not legal any more

the current complaining is the same as the complaining back then; it's easy to focus on things that irritate you and be dismissive of them

the current progress is things like the Supreme Court throwing out Arkansas' abortion law changes - which were opposed by the governor but passed in record time by the state legislature - because you can't overturn stare decisis without supplying new evidence, and even the state's medical experts never tried to offer any new evidence to support the changes to the law; but the resistance to that law came from civil rights activists

civil rights movements don't die out, any more than assholes who think they own you die out

world without end; sometimes progress is standing still

>>79192397
>civil rights movements don't die out
if you actually do things right and finish the job, they do

>>79192544
and that's a the real problem, the movement needed to transition to a more subtle and inclusive strategy, but that's hard and doesn't give victimhood credits, burning bridges to the outside and self marginalizing keeps the familiar battle alive at the cost of future generations.

>>79190151
>>79190254
>>79190393
This worries me so much. I'm hoping for the 2020's regresses a bit back on all this shit.

>>79187284
That's what my brother told me a few years back, that it was strange to him how he related so much to Bart and his rebellious personality when he was a kid but now as an adult and with kids if his own he fpund Bart more annoying and that he felt more in tune with Homer.