Previous Thread hit bump limit. Here we see Mary casts the sinners away from tainting Joyce's purity.
Also some stuff Willis has said in response to being a brave symbol of bravery and totally representing the struggles of people, which he is totally related to as he was a sheltered christian child from a middle class home.
>How exactly did Ruth even become an RA? Mary is an asshole, but also makes some valid points- Ruth IS a terrible RA. Ignoring what Mary throws in her face this strip, Ruth has actually gotten physical with more than one of her residents. Plus she stated that she was allowed to act that out of line because she ran a tight ship... which she isn't anymore. This may be leading to an arc in which she loses her position, but I'm wondering how she even got it in the first place.
"All the other applicants were worse"
>Carla is very important to me as well as many others so thank you for making her
"Carla is actually one of the universe’s load-bearing entities. Very important."
Previously on the Mary Show, our brave hero stood up to a bitch who refused to stop being a bitch, yet because she used Car having a penis as an insult, everything she was right about is suddenly invalidated.
And also, Mary might not even be aware that Carlos has a dick, and might have been referring to her juvenile behavior as being boylike instead of intentionally aiming for the jugular with Carlos's little disorder.
So basically, Mary is totally in the right here.
>Reminder that more than half of Willy's self-insert characters have turned out gay
>Reminder that he's now pushing all this SJW shit agenda
We should all start sending messages over Tumblr praising him for realizing his sexuality and encouraging him to come out of the closet
I don't really care about her calling the car a boy, but why didn't the Trans-Am do something herself? There's tons of places she could have gone with that. Insulting her shovel chinned man face, implying she's a slut by saying "lead the way I'm sure you know the way much better than I do." she could even bring religion into it by doing a on your knees "praying" all the time joke.
And here we see what is likely to be a reoccurring feature of this arc, as was present with ToeDad.
People will make edits/alternate takes on Willis' approach to stories that many would find superior.
When confronted with these edits, Willis has been known to call it "Hallmark" shit that villains have redeemable traits, even though Hallmark Movies often have their antagonists be cliche moustache twirlers out to ruin the protagonists fun, which is funnily enough what Willis himself does.
Mary was in the right about not wanting some sperg skating around indoors, but she went about fixing the problem in an overly aggressive way, much like every character in this comic.
Mary continues to be great. I can't wait to see what over the top heinous action she's going to have to do when Willis realizes people don't "understand" that she's totes an evil bitch.
Maybe she and Toe Dad can join forces.
It's not just about the villains either. I would have loved to see Carla put down Mary like that, but no she shut down like someone hit an off switch on her dashboard. It makes it obvious that Willis doesn't actually care about these issues or these people and just wants good boy points from his insular slacktivist community.
It's really why I can't stand most SJW stuff. I support trans rights, and most of the stuff the SJWs "support" but these people don't really seem to care about these issues for real, the only thing they seem to actually get done is bitch about representation, which honestly is a lot less important than securing things like rights to not be fired for gender identity.
All that has to happen for these characters problems to be solved is to just not give a fuck.
Some cunt says god hates gays? Just refuse to commit to giving a fuck. All the drama in this comic is manufactured by the characters being such dumb cunts 24/7.
>God sees everything
>Biiiitch I don't give a fuuuuuuuuck now fuck off to bible study ya lil cunt
Willis openly admitted that the the only reason Ruth appeared at the end of the strip where Mary called Carla a tranny was to avoid triggering-tension for his audience.
A "professional" writer didn't think his comic could handle a 24 hour period of wondering what would happen next.
>A "professional" writer didn't think his comic could handle a 24 hour period of wondering what would happen next.
Given his audience, is he really wrong?
Look at what happened to Gail Simone.
Given the previous content of his comic, you'd figure it'd drum up interest to see what happens next, but he purposefully wanted to avoid that for some reason, making sure his audience felt safe that the RA who never does her job was there to defend Ultra Car.
Here we have evidence of Willis stating that Carla purposefully goes out of her way to antagonize and get people to hate her, yet because the fact she's trans is now the focus, she's a completely sympathetic character who has been wronged by Evil Mary.
Sometimes trans people are shitheads. That doesn't make it ok to target them for being trans. Like, if your friends parents are dead, you don't rub it in their face when they do something annoying
See, I like this. I like that Carla's a cunt. I'm glad she's not a one dimmensional pure maiden. But then suddenly she goes into full victim mode as soon as someone says something insulting about her being trans. And don't get me wrong. I imagine there's plenty of people who WOULD just completely freeze up like that. But if you're the kind of person who is actively antagonistic, knowing that bieng trans is already something that people aren't all accepting of, AND knowing that Mary is Jesus' bottom bitch, you'd think it wouldn't catch her off guard like that, and she'd get mad instead of just...deer in the headlights. She basically ceases being a jerk and becomes a victim so that the audience can understand that Mary's the bad guy instead of her getting mad and hitting her or attempting to hit HER bellow the belt.
No she needs to be saved. Because she's too abused. She can't fight her own battles because she's experienced this kind of thing so many times before or something. You'd think someone who's actively a cunt would have some comebacks for that sort of thing. I'm black. I doubt I'd just freeze up if some dude called me a nigger, unless he looked like he could kick my ass or something I guess. It just feels like it does a disservice to the character.
REAL HUMAN BEAN AND A REAL HERO
Yeah, I get that Mary's jab has no place being used, but it escalated to a point it never would have if Carla hadn't been a bitch about skating in the halls even when Mary tried to resolve the issue peacefully. She didn't escalate it, but she isn't innocent either.
Not every character has to be likeable or relatable. However in this case, Willis clearly intended her to be, while also making her a cunt. That Willis and his audience find people who behave like cunts more likeable and relatable than the person said cunt has pushed to their limits and caused to snap probably tells you something about them.
But lets not have another /pol/ tier thread about socio-politics, let's have some more big dicked Carla x Mary shipping, it's the only good thing to come out of these threads.
People like Mike and Willis didn't understand why he was winning a popular character poll, so suddenly Mike was randomly inserted into some strips but he was clearly out of character in that he wasn't a over-the-top asshole.
People love Mike because he's a bad person who doesn't cause any real harm.
It's exactly the same kind of cheap shot. One obviously seems worse to you because you're most likely cis. Trans people get murdered all the fucking time for being trans. Most trans people have a friend or know someone who has killed themselves or attempted to, or just been straight up murdered. It's just fucked up.
It's just going for something that you know is a real issue that people have to deal with and mocking them for it. It's exactly like calling a crippled kid Legs or telling a blind person to watch where they're going when you're fully aware of their situation
>Most trans people have a friend or know someone who has killed themselves or attempted to, or just been straight up murdered. It's just fucked up.
This is news to me.
Not too believable news either.
Not just yours specifically, but like the QC threads, the fun comes out of the edits/better versions of the comics with little effort.
Although if you want to draw Mary smut I'm totally for that.
Yeah. But that's still not the same situation. It's like calling someone a Nigger. People get murdered for being black all the time too, and there's plenty of black people that indulge in self destructive behavior because of it. But I wouldn't compare it to rubbing in the actual death of a close friend. Unless they're being transphobic against one of your friends that killed themselves.
>not pointing out people's flaws to help them grow as a person
>just insulting people to make them suffer
Why would the depression caused by loss of loved ones be inherently more painful than the depression brought on by intense dysphoria? Is it because of the implied loss of resources that comes with losing your parents or loss of companionship? Because being trans fucks you over economically and socially as well since you get assholes like people in this thread being the ones deciding whether or not you get hired.
I wouldn't call it disproportionate.
People are allowed to have views you don't like. I'll take a racist who keeps it to themselves to a person who sees everyone as equals but acts like a selfish cunt who refuses to pay consideration to others and actively harasses people.
Sup guys, just came to see your reaction to my last strip and HOLY SHIT YOUR BUTTHURT LEVELS ARE OFF THE CHARTS
Personally I'd call the person a "fucking cocksucker", or a cunt, but whatever gets the job done, especially since clearly the RA isn't doing anything about Carla's behavior. Here's the thing though, when you're being a shithead to someone else, you don't get to be mad that someone is a shithead to you. At a certain point of annoyance, you are breaking social etiquette, and are no longer protected by it.
The characters hate Mike because he's an asshole. The readership like him, arguably because of the same reasons. Just because you like reading about him doesn't mean you'd like being around him.
Did you really expect any different? That's what trolling is. The goal isn't winning an argument or taking the moral high ground (what use are those things to nobodies on the internet? We're not politicians in the public eye) it's upsetting people who it's amusing and entertaining to watch get upset.
Is phobia even the right word? People with a genuine phobia have a crippling fear for the stuff, but disliking a trans or whatever is not equal to having panic attacks whenever they see one
>It makes it obvious that Willis doesn't actually care about these issues or these people and just wants good boy points from his insular slacktivist community.
I think this is shown best by the fact that in the strip no only does Carla completely freeze up, buth Ruth swoops in out of nowhere and LITERALLY PUSHES THE TRANS PERSON OUT OF THE WAY IN ORDER TO SPEAK FOR THEM.
Of course, the SJW's that make up Willis' audience see minorities as innocent victims that they need to save anyway, so they'll gobble this shit up without realising how patronising that is to the people they're trying to defend.
I wouldn't do that to my friend because they're my friend. Carla isn't my friend. She's a bully and a cunt.
You damn right I'm going for the jugular when they disrespect me. I'll make fun of a person in a wheelchair if they are acting like a bully to me or people around me. You don't get protection.
Well that is where you are, after all.
Besides, you only grow if what's thrown at you has weight.
>telling a blind person to watch where they're going
That's hilarious though. Personally I'd do something like "Hey guy, catch!"
Its like the old Archie Bunker situation. Everyone was supposed to think that Archie was the joke. But people actually sympathized with Archie and his plight of having to deal with liberal dumbness.
Phobia is one of those romanesque words that means multiple things. Phobia can either refer to fear or an intense disdain for something. A material can be Hydrophobic. Meaning it repels water, not that it fears water.
> all this tranny white knighting
>Implying Willis would ever come here
He can't even handle his own comments section having dissenting opinions. This place is like kryptonite to him.
Besides, I know Willy's kind. He'd take it upon himself to single-handedly attack every dissenting opinion in the thread, causing a massive shitstorm of inane argument until his beard drags him away from the computer and tells him to grow up and father their children.
It's kinda weird really. I mean hatred of Jews is called anti-semitism, not "jewphobia".
>implying there aren't a proportionally high number of trannies on 4chan compared to elsewhere
We get the good trannies who consider SJWs more of a condescending hindrance to them than they are a help. Which is true. And which is also why it's kinda stupid to lump them all in together. Tranny allies are a good thing in the fight against SJWs.
Honestly I don't really care if a person is trans or not. It doesn't really effect me in a significant way. But I'm also against the idea of being a dick about "Nope. You're not this and I don't support this and you deserve to be treated like that". Do whatever you want, senpai. I'd rather you be content and strange than Depressed and normal.
>tfw you tried this before and failed
I guess my art isn't cute enough.
the difference between a person with a mental illness and someone who's outright crazy is that that the latter can't comprehend or accept that their own brain might be the problem.
gender dysphoria is a mental abnormality, and trying to get society to go along with the little game of dress-up doesn't actually resolve the issues.
With most friends, that's a conversation that comes up at some point.
>"Hey, are blind jokes okay?"
>"Depends, can I make fun of you for being so fat I can hear your folds jiggle?"
That's what a real friendship is like. If you've ever had a friend, you'd know that.
Except for when it does
If a man wants to be a woman, why not let him? Its not gonna hurt anyone else. Its not like schizofrenia or something where accepting it as normal might lead to people getting hurt. Its just a dude wanting to be a chick.
>be a woman
you say that like it's actually possible
yes, no, sometimes.
-phobia has alot of meanings. in different fields.
Averse is the chemical/biological meaning.
Which is where the term makes the most sense for using with things like Homophobia/transphobia, etc.
hydrophobe is the most well known for example.
A molecule the is repelled by water.
photophobia. Aversion to light. (migranes, etc)
heliopobia. Fear of light.
So, people are correct in using -phobic like they are.
Although, it might be more clear/accurate to say, homo-averse, or trans-averse.
>gender dysphoria is a mental abnormality, and trying to get society to go along with the little game of dress-up doesn't actually resolve the issues.
Alright so what's your solution? We don't have a way to fix it through medication, and we can't get society to let these people act in feminine and masculine roles while still accepting them as the gender they were born with. I mean fuck the whole boys don't cry thing is still a huge issue.
I'm 5'6". No one would believe, or pretend to believe, that I am 6'2" if I wore stilts. It's the same thing here. Wish you were a woman (since it's always one way for some odd reason...)? Well, I wish I was taller, but I'm not tall, and you're not a woman. People just need to learn to accept things they can't change.
Also being able to cry and get a man to sort out the issue is a woman thing. If men were able to cry to get someone else to fix it, who would fix it?
We could make the world into a mario game.
I was thinking about this on the drive to work this morning because I am a sad human being, and there's something else that pisses me off about it. Thinking from a liberal perspective, because I'm a liberal:
Trans people don't need to act like total fucking assholes in order for someone to say something deliberately cruel to them. This storyline might have had some semblance of oomph if Mary's attack on Carla came more out of nowhere. She'd still be a cartoonish strawman, but at least that gut-punch insult would've been completely uncalled for, as opposed to "assholeish but in response to outright torment."
Like...does he honestly think Carla's supposed to be 100% sympathetic now that Mary's acting transphobic? Mary's a bitch, everyone knows that, it was established long ago. Why did he go out of his way to make Carla repeatedly ignore her requests to quiet down, then make Carla deliberately antagonize her EVEN MORE? Given how much of a bigoted bitch she's supposed to be, she showed the transwoman infinite fucking patience and finally went for the nut-shot after Carla intentionally got her so angry she screamed. All because Carla wanted to do something nobody reasonable would defend in the first place.
Instead of Mary seeming like a bigoted transphobe who brings up gender identity out of nowhere, she looks like an asshole driven to say something really mean because it's the only thing that'll shut Carla the fuck up.
I know a couple trans people. One of them was a bridesmaid at my wedding (presented as male, stood on the bride's side). They don't NEED to act like wacky "snarky" assholes to get shit on by people. This arc actually gets more insulting the more I think about it, because it uses "wacky" behavior to elicit a cruel response from a cartoonish monster, when otherwise-average people can and DO thoughtlessly hurt trans people on a dime, with or without malice, just because those trans people dare to be visibly trans. In short, fuck Willis.
>even though Hallmark Movies often have their antagonists be cliche moustache twirlers out to ruin the protagonists fun
Exactly. Hallmark movies are treacly nonsense devoid of nuance, which is EXACTLY WHAT WILLIS IS MAKING
>and we can't get society to let these people act in feminine and masculine roles while still accepting them as the gender they were born with
I say we can and this should be the goal. We've made lots of progress with racial and gender equality so far.
Claiming to be the opposite gender because you don't fit your societal gender role just re-enforces those roles.
Right now this is the current Main Cast list. None of these people will ever have to face serious repercussions when dealing with non-Main Cast characters. Ever.
It would make my day if this was all a ruse, that the reason why Carla was harassing Mary and went so quiet after she insulted her were because in a way she liked Mary (they're both kinda cunts, after all) and wanted to hang out
or fuck.It did actually seem like she was using the whole glue incident as a reason to talk to her, and just before Mary ruined her chances of ever getting to take the ladycock Carla did seem to want to come with her. In her own socially abrasive way perhaps she did just want to be friends.
But of course, this is Willis we're talking about and I doubt we'll never get anything as interesting or unexpected as that.
The problem is virtually everyone in the comic is Mike now. Almost all the characters seem to outright detest one another. Everyone speaks bluntly, swears at each other, makes little sniping comments. The nicest people in it are the slowly-mindbreaking Christian, Joe the man-slut, Ethan, and Danny. And we barely see the latter these days.
Because you haven't drawn Carla with her cock out yet.
Same characters, different universe.
Shortpacked Carla was a car-turned-woman
DoA Carla is just a plain old MtF transgender
It's stupid as fuck, I know.
You made me want this. Fuck you.
>'bout to fap to tranny porn
>tranny has a bigger dick than you
She's probably some kind of heretic rather than a true Catholic Christian, but a man can dream.
I'm a filthy long time reader.
People sympathized with Archie but mostly rejected his bigotry. The show's creators got that you can more effectively push an ideology when you show its opponents as wrong but still human.
We can like Archie and feel bad for him without agreeing with him, and we can think Meathead's an annoying dick without saying he's wrong.
she was the head of a chapter in Spokane for under a year and her career went down in flames the moment the allegations came out, so let's not go nuts and claim people get away with that shit all the time
Hey, why aren't you posting with a Name?
I'm sure she could go full Æðelfæd and massacre the filthy heathens polluting this land of God.
If anyone recognizes my style they'll know who I am. At the same time it's one of those things that I'm not gonna post anywhere but here and maybe on willis' comics and don't really want a reputation for it.
Also I don't like namefagging cuz people can pretend to be me, and trip fagging cuz it defeats the purpose of anonymity
>I don't like namefagging cuz people can pretend to be me, and trip fagging cuz it defeats the purpose of anonymity
That sounds a lot like a paradox.
>Willis still hasn't done a Joyce X Walky pornographic
That's like the most obvious thing he could do.
I want to copulate with Mary in the missionary position for the purpose of procreation after we're married in a house of God.
you mean that retarded faggots have deliberately abused a word for a long enough time that they have shifted its perceived meaning in public consciousness?
wouldn't be the first time, Nimrod.
I guess he does want to forget about the old Walkyverse.
>a closet lesbian
If that were true, who should she hook up with
my money's on Sierra
Have you guys read the comments? This is truly disgusting.
I love the edits that came out of the toe dad arc
Man, i don't even have to go on Tumblr to be fucking annoyed out of my brain.
This. Some rude douchebag doing everything to tick you off AND deciding that their own shit's off limits is just way beyond the fuckwad horizon. If you're a weak fag, don't try to puff yourself up and pick on other people. If you ask for it, sooner or later you're gonna get it.
Joyce is a character who is kind of busty in that weird "She's so modest all the time it makes it a bit hotter" kind of way.
But I agree. Joyce is not for sexual (except it's walky Joyce, who is for sexual)
Yeah, give me three reasons why you wouldnt defend mary, and three reasons why she's wrong. Its not even about giving carla a pass. Its about destroying someone whos in the right BECAUSE she "insulted" someone whos lmao trans
I never looked at the comments before but I felt this was the perfect opportunity to.
Truly a great world we live in.
The thing about sjw and the like are when you alienate people and treat the ones not in control of things as an enemy you just create more tension. It's counter productive. It's Like Whopee Goldberg said about the whole Oscar thing. People bitch once a year and forget about it and plenty of the black stars complainig have production companies and sway to help fix the problem of a lack of good roles for black actors and they just fucking don't.
It kinda depends, the trans comment had nothing to do with the argument they were having.
If Ultra Car had randomly gone "Awwww, is poor little christian girl getting upset?" or something, then yeah, all gloves are off.
That's the issue here, the escalation from Willis is jarring and out of place, there for no reason but to show "MARY IS EVIL YOU CAN'T DEFEND HER". He does it all the time, an antagonist appears, there's a bit of a question on who is right and wrong, then the character Willis clearly wants us to hate (Who is always either Christian, a parent or both) makes a comment or does an action that comes out of left field yet will make their opinions void to most people.
remember, this is what sympathetic heroes in Willis comics are like
I'm assuming you're referring to the removal of homosexuality from the DSM? Are you people still butthurt over medical professionals reaching a consensus you don't like?
>Sex is "The biologic character or quality that distinguishes male and female from one another as expressed by analysis of the person's gonadal, morphologic (internal and external), chromosomal, and hormonal characteristics."
>Gender is "The category to which an individual is assigned by self or others, on the basis of sex."
Trans issues come from a person's gender differing from their sex. The issues and treatment efficacy are consistent enough for doctors to, for the most part, advocate transition and acceptance as solutions, because nothing else has fuckin' worked.
I'm not one of those crazies who thinks parents should stop deciding whether or not their kid's a boy or a girl until the kid's 18, but I can acknowledge and accept a consistent phenomenon without getting all weirded out about it. I truly do not understand why trans people upset others so much. My wife's trans bridesmaid is a wonderful person; if her gender is at odds with her sex and the best known treatment is for her to live as a woman, why the fuck should I care? She didn't wear a dress to our wedding because she didn't want to upset our older guests, but I made damn sure her name on the seating chart said "Ms." In what way did it harm me or anyone else there to do so?
Yeah, there's logistical issues (bathrooms, locker rooms, etc). Yeah, the lines between crossdressers, effeminate gay men/masculine gay women, and trans people are blurry. So what? Life's complicated, but handling this is pretty simple.
What's especially odd is trans issues could also be mitigated by easing or erasing traditional gender roles and stereotypes, but the people liable to get buttmad about trans people ALSO get assblasted about criticism of gender roles.
Seconding. That would actually be quite sick.
Well I took it as more blackmail Mary has. No one knows Carla is trans. At least I thought as much it was so vague and he told everyone on twitter and tumblr right away instead of letting this be a reveal after some lead up. It reads like it was all leading up to this moment and if he didn't reveal it already it would have had more impact than WAH SHE WAS TRANSPHOBIC.
While I disagree with your political alignment, I agree with your conclusion. Well said, anon.
Needs to be more glorious.
Something like this.
>everyone is fawning over the wondrous knight
>he's looking up at christ
Nah all we need is one really good piece of fanart
Like this but with Mary in Washington's place
Not to defend him, but the default Avatars are randomized.
David Willis: bringing people together since Toedad 2015
>People say it might be interesting to see where this goes as Becky is clearly out of her depth in what she claims she'll go on to do
>Willis makes a tumblr post about how everything here is supposed to be genuine and this is Becky having her brave escape from the evil religious monster that was her father
"Fuck you dad, God answers lesbian prayers"
>He says that the becky edits are bad because 'they weren't in character for her'
MAYBE THAT'S THE BLOODY POINT
>So you're saying that you would just throw some shit at a blind person for laughs?
Really moving the goalposts, here. The context was the hypothetical blind person being a gigantic bitch and refusing to act right when called out on it multiple times. In that scenario I would 100% whip a pie or ball into his face while going HEY, CATCH!.
Perticularly if, as in Willis' scenario, it's some surly douchebag everybody including me hates already for constantly acting like a cunt.
i think the only thing of note she's done since then is purposefully seek out a chick-fil-a to rouse trouble with public display of lesbian affection just to be told by the gay cashier no one really cares
I liked the edit more, where she was clearly angry, but also sad, because her father destroyed their relationship but still she wishes things could be happy again even as she knows she has to move on and away from him. It just had more feeling to it.
have fun being told you're a bad person for not being gay and atheist
unless you go to a real school with real people and not pseudo cartoons
I'm the anon who made this thread, so no, I'm not preaching morals.
I just think Willis being a hack is more important to discuss here than "Men who want to be a woman are still men"
We already know Willis is a hack. There is literally nothing to discuss anymore, other than his latest mediocre comic and totally-stagnant writing capabilities.
But there's tons of stuff to discuss about men who want to use the ladies restroom.
is she purposely written to be annoying about her sexuality? I guess there is a phase like that when people come out, but the cashier shows that Willis can write characters sensibly. Again I beg the question: why does everyone have to be an asshole?
>Willis tries to belittle people claiming "They say they are 'totes cool with the gays'" like he's some beacon to represent homosexuality
>This is his representation of it
Yeah, the character who's main trait is "HAHA I'M LESBIAN" is totally a strong character. Or you know, the amazing "Les Bean" before her.
>the devoted servant of God is named after the mother
/r/ a toedad version of that.
What's infuriating is, hack or no hack, how much of a workhorse he is. Half the webcomics I follow only update like twice a fucking month. Fox Sister has been on hiatus since, what, early summer last year? And meanwhile Willis has got a backlog longer than Carla's dick.
>What's infuriating is, hack or no hack, how much of a workhorse he is.
He has literally nothing else in his life, Anon. His wife doesn't even like being around him that much, by all accounts. His so-called friends hate him. It's draw a cartoon or throw his lumpy, cottage-cheese weight around TFwiki.
And on top of all that, he's been entirely upfront with shitcanning Shortpacked and writing DoA instead because "it requires no mental energy".
>Yeah, there's logistical issues (bathrooms, locker rooms, etc)
I've thought for a while now that the best solution to this is to mark them by genitals instead of pictures of men/women. I suppose intersex might still be an issue with that, but those could come down to "which one does it look most like".
To be fair, when only like two months have passed over the course of almost 6 years (which has included time skips), it's not a shock how much he can churn out.
You compare it to say, Shortpacked! which really was a work horse of a comic every update, and you realise how much less effort he's putting it in.
He's also been doing this since about 1999, I'd hope he could make a backlog for a comic that has three/four small square panels a day.
The trick is to not buy them through the university-owned bookstore. You can rent or buy most college textbooks through Amazon for much cheaper if you absolutely need them for a course.
Well they're fucking shills who are contributing to the inflated cost of higher education that is devaluing college degrees in our workforce. University life is a racket on so many levels.
An intern at my job spent hundreds of dollars on 2015 editions of econ and finance textbooks and was lamenting how little the school was willing to pay to buy them back.
Textbook companies work very hard to make sure college kids have to buy the new editions. Some professors have even gotten in trouble for using old editions of the book or telling students "the next module is on page 158, but if you have the 2014 edition, go to page 125" and shit like that.
>removal of homosexuality from the DSM?
I wasn't, but you should read up on "zapping".
> literally faggots crashing annual shrink conventions in an organized fashion, running around naked and screaming until they gave in an declared homos not mentally abnormal. :)
see I don't understand the mentality behind that. If you have access to the same information, what possible difference does it make other than maybe the page numbers won't line up 100% because the people doing the conversion didn't think it be a problem?
If it's being worried using their devices for books might distract them then let them fail and learn a lesson about self control
It sure fucking does suck. Whenever I can, I either get them online in electronic format, or I buy them literally anywhere other than the campus bookstore. .
Fuck that noise, I'm not paying over $100 for a textbook I'm only going to be using for a few months.
Online classes are something that should've become a standard option like three or four years ago, but Universities could never find a way to justify charging you the same amount for a digital copy that you'd have to pay for a physical one.
Think about it, why the fuck are textbooks usually two hundred dollars?
>Textbook companies work very hard to make sure college kids have to buy the new editions. Some professors have even gotten in trouble for using old editions of the book or telling students "the next module is on page 158, but if you have the 2014 edition, go to page 125" and shit like that.
>in grad school for science education
>taking a couple intro science courses for shit that I didn't study for my undergrad to get those credits on my transcript for certification
>new textbook edition required
Didn't even bother buying. I don't need a fucking textbook for a 101 level course, and the professor put all his lecture notes up online for students anyways. What a fucking scam.
>tfw carla rapes mary with her giant futa dick
Let me let you in on a secret, just about everyone who went to a public high school knows someone who killed themselves, tried to kill themselves or was murdered. Being trans doesn't have any effect on knowing someone. Now trans people do have a higher rates of suicides (who would have thought having a mental unbalance would lead to depression), they are also killed more for surprise Dick not for being trans.
Every professor I've had actively encourages us to buy e-books or order hard copies from third party sources.
Of course, I'm still in community at the moment. I'm sure the professors at the private school I'm transferring to will ensure that the campus bookstore bends us over for textbooks.
ummmm so hot
Not saying it's justified, but it's more the lack of honesty. You hide the fact that you're packing the opposite of the expected set of genitalia then you're surprised when someone gets mad about it?
See, that's what I'm talking about. Fuck that shit. It was exactly the same for me when I took English 102. There were two books required for the class, both equally expensive. I'm fairly certain I only ever touched one of them three times throughout the entire course.
My campus has a buyback program after every term, but of course you never get anything even close to full or sometimes even half price, and if the book isn't in high demand, you don't get jack for it.
There was a girl in my Calculus class that actually found a textbook for the class at the local thrift store for twenty bucks, and the teacher said she couldn't use it because she didn't buy it at the campus bookstore.
She went and complained and got written permission that she was allowed to use it, but the professor was a bitch to her the rest of that semester.
One of the guys who was also taking Law said he'd heard that professor got a preserved parking space near the front doors if she had more books bought for her class.
you are assuming that psychiatry isn't a half bullshit profession operated by a bunch of lazy and greedy fucks.
if you just want to drink whiskey and bullshit with all your colleagues at your big annual convention and a bunch of flamers explicitly promised to crash and ruin it every year, FOREVER, until you gave them some minor concession, what do you think is going to happen?
Fucking bullshit man. See, at least my professors try to help us find better sources for books. You could have an e-text and have it up on a tablet or laptop in class, and they wouldn't care.
Same. Shit sucks. I got a pretty good deal on everything the first time I did it, but I think that was only because I had books saved up from two terms, and a few of them were required texts for English 101 and 102, which are of course pretty common classes for people looking to do their general ed and transfer.
I got the worst example.
I went to high school at a private Christian school in the south. Our "philosophy" class (basically "let's learn why everything but Christianity (fundamentalist, republican, 'Murrican Christianity) does not make sense) required like 3 textbooks: one we used generally, one we used once or twice, and one we had to buy because the pastor of the school's church had written a paragraph in. We never used it.
>tfw i thought that this was the edit and the other was Willis not being garbage for once.
>tfw i was wrong
>take Reading and Writing Sexuality class to fulfill English credit
>teacher is a former hippie, militant lesbian feminist kind of like the gender studies teacher in DoA
>she makes sure all the reading assignments are cheap paperbacks we can get at Borders, hands out textbook printouts instead of making us buy shit from the campus store
>one of the books is about how great penises are and how men should feel good about themselves
>another book is called Cunt
>at the end of the semester she gives each of us a gift related to our discussions of our sexuality in class; the Chinese exchange student who cried while telling us her family doesn't let her masturbate gets a vibrator that looks like a makeup brush, the mortified Christian girl who didn't know what she was getting into gets a book about Mary Magdalene and a reassurance she did wonderfully in class; I get a Batman pillowcase because during a class discussion on masturbation I said I learned to do it by humping pillows
Some gender studies teachers are pretty cool
Bro, I feel for you. I go to school in SoCal, and even I have to put up with a load of stupid bullshit. Can't even imagine the crap you would have had to deal with in a place like that.
>I get a Batman pillowcase because during a class discussion on masturbation I said I learned to do it by humping pillows
...And thinking about Batman?
I took a class on Science Fiction and the differences between western/eastern european takes on it (we basically compared american/english writers' works against Polish and Russian ones) that was taught by a lady obsessed with high heels and Buffy the Vampire Slayer. She sounds like she should be a thirteen-year old on tumblr, but she was pretty cool in real life.
I got to write a term paper on System Shock 2 for that class.
>Can't even imagine the crap you would have had to deal with in a place like that.
The whole place was a mess. The only thing it was known for was sports. Luckily, by the time I graduated people were wising up and leaving in droves, even teachers.
To be quite honest, I can totally see why Willy would develop such a fucked up view of his parents, if they were anything like that school and its teachers. Though he's still a nutcase.
See, my mom was religious, but she wasn't a nutjob about it, and she never tried to force it on me. When I showed interest as a young child, she would answer my questions and buy me books on the subject. When I got older and it was clear that I probably wasn't going to have anything to do with religion, she never said one word.
However, I've known people who have had the exact opposite experience, and yeah, some of them came out a little messed up. I don't find it that hard to believe in this case.
I went to a Catholic school from kindergarten through my high school graduation, and it was super chilled out (so much so that it actually got in trouble with the Diocese for being too lax with their Catholic identity
looking back on it, I agree with them on that), and a friend of mine who joined our class when we were in 10th grade actually transferred in from another local private school that was run as a general "Christian" (aka super Protestant) school, and from how she described it, they sounded like a bunch of assholes. Weren't allowed to have any dances, instead of a Prom, they had a winter formal dinner for the students, and my friend got shit from other students and teachers more than once for being Catholic.
I had a brother on our school's soccer team, and my dad would tape their matches for practice review, which gave him a seat right behind the opposing team's bench. Well, our school has a tradition of a local priest coming in to say a benediction and pray the Our Father with our team before each match. This time we were playing that Christian private school for a match, and after the prayer was over, he overheard their coach saying "Okay, now let's pray to OUR God.".
Seriously, Bunch of assholes.
Nah, see the assignment that sparked the discussion was to bring in something mundane that you'd used in a sexual way. A gay guy brought in some ice, one girl brought in a vibrating toothbrush, someone brought a latex glove...I brought a pillow and explained the humping pillows thing. I said one of the benefits of it, even after I knew how to use my hand, was that I had my own sex toy lying around hiding in plain sight. She thought this was fantastic and complimented my childhood ingenuity, but said it was too bad I didn't have any sexy pillowcases.
She gave me the Batman pillowcase because she knew I was bi and knew I liked comic books. She included a note, something like:
>You live on your own now. You deserve a more exciting pillow.
I really did. I weep for students who have to deal with shitty liberal professors instead of the cool liberal ones I had.
That's fucking great!
Because a teacher giving kids gifts related to their sex lives would trigger half his readers.
Well remember most black people are killed by other black people. But in most cases when killed by the police it is usually because they are being "uppity" as you put it and not obeying police orders. Now its not totally fair nor is it justified, however when getting hot and heavy and reaching down and getting a handful of the opposite of what you expect people go kinda crazy. Its less running into a trans person on the street and killing them, and more someone feeling trucked in a moment of passion and a beating.
>the Chinese exchange student who cried while telling us her family doesn't let her masturbate gets a vibrator that looks like a makeup brush
Would giving Joyce a vibrator make her feel better?
It's funny, my family has always been Catholic, but we never took the spirituality of it too seriously when my brothers and I were younger. Just observed Sunday mass and holy days, prayed before meals, and that was pretty much it.
Then when we got older and went our separate ways in college, all of us kind of found a deeper avenue in it. I got into taking Religious Studies courses at my university which really forced me to account for my beliefs for the first time and I got deep into apologetics, my older brother is away living on his own, and is heavily involved with his new local parish as a Eucharistic minister and men's group leader, and my little bro has been making a habit to get to daily masses around his grad school schedule. Both of my parents have gotten more involved with my hometown parish too.
Most friends I had growing up who were Catholic have fallen away from the Church entirely, so I just can't help wondering why our family stayed so strong with it.
>well remember most black people are killed by other black people
Let's not get into that or modern police brutality. I was referring more to old-school stuff, like lynchings and white people skating on murder charges because of all-white juries basically going "shit, I'd have killed him too."
>Now its not totally fair nor is it justified, however when getting hot and heavy and reaching down and getting a handful of the opposite of what you expect people go kinda crazy. Its less running into a trans person on the street and killing them, and more someone feeling trucked in a moment of passion and a beating.
You're describing the trans panic/gay panic murder defense, which is just as weak a foundation as the temporary insanity defense, but people give it more credence because ew, dicks, gross.
>I weep for students who have to deal with shitty liberal professors instead of the cool liberal ones I had
I've been lucky on that front so far. Closest I came to that was my professor for English 101. Not particularly liberal, aside from a seeming disdain for law enforcement (more on that in a minute).
She was always either in a bad mood or sarcastic in a bitchy sort of way, and she seemed to believe that we came from some monolithic, homogeneous ghetto just because most of us lived in the 909. Bitch lived just outside the Inland Empire. I have no idea what made her think like that.
And as I said before, she hated cops. We never got along very well once she knew I wanted to go into law enforcement.
My English 102 teacher was pretty much the exact opposite. She was this petite, dark skinned Asian QT who taught us about comic books as a form of literature. Needless to say, I actually enjoyed her class.
I had high enough SAT/ACT scores coming into college that my university let me just take one English course to cover the basic 101/102 requirements.
Unfortunately the lady who taught that specific course was an idiot who made us watch Michael Moore documentaries and do reports on them.
I watched about a third of Sicko before I said "fuck this shit" and wrote a paper detailing why the "18,000 people die each year because they don't have health insurance" claim is complete horseshit
That's sounds like something my school would do.
I remember a friend of mine was a Calvinist, and the teacher started tearing into their philosophy without knowing he was one. He calmly raised his hand and corrected all the retarded stuff the teacher had said, and the teacher just went "... are you a Calvinist...?"
Idiots, all of em. To cut costs they paid their coaches and the coaches wives to teach us as well. Fucked us over when college arrived and we started actually learning.
I couldn't honestly say why that might be. It might just be that you weren't forced into it.
I have a lot of Mormon friends, and even dated a Mormon girl for a year a while back. Even in California, the way the kids get treated can be pretty repressive at times. As a result, many of them try to distance themselves from the church when they get older. Others have themselves what I can only describe as an experimentation binge. After having been sheltered from the world for so many years, teenage Mormons will sometimes just go nuts with sex, alcohol, profanity, and even drugs. It's nuts.
Soooo your saying I can't use modern sensibilities when talking about modern problems cause it doesn't fit your narrative?
Besides temporary insanity is also called crimes of passion and does usually result in lighter sentences. Someone comes home sees there significant other cheating, person goes get knife or gun and kills both usually gets hit with man slaughter over murder. You know a quick way to mot get murdered by surprising someone with your Dick? Don't surprise them be open be honest, if you need to trick someone into liking you cause your trans then they are not worth it.
Most of my other friends that I'm talking about came from the exact same socioeconomic backgrounds, grew up in an incredibly stable home life, and went to the same church and private Catholic school as I did. A lot of us even went to the same university after graduating. That's why it confuses me as to why they chose to walk away and I didn't.
>This will never be a pornographic that Willis draws
Dude, that reminds me of the time one of my teachers made us watch Bowling for Columbine in my senior year of high school. Even though most of the class was well aware of my penchant for history, nobody could understand why I started laughing when the bit about bin Laden having "expert CIA training" came up. As if the blatant manipulative editing in the opening sequence weren't enough.
I don't much like Calvinist philosophy either, but yeah at least give them a chance to defend their perspective. When I went to college and started taking Religious Studies classes (this was a public university so it was all from a secular, comparative religion angle), there was a pretty wide mash-up of different Christian perspectives, agnostics and atheists.
Shit, I ended up becoming friends with a hardcore feminist pagan who sat next to me in class.And there was ONE GUY who was a Calvinist and you knew because he reminded you EVERY TIME he opened his mouth to tell the professor teaching Biblical Theology and exegesis of the Old Testament why he was wrong.
One of my roommates in college was a Mormon who was currently trying to cut ties with them, and she was going through some rough shit.
I know plenty of nice Mormons, but that one instance just struck me uncomfortably like someone trying to leave a cult.
You've just given me a great idea
>/aco/ drawfags collaborating to make a DOA Pornographic that's better than anything Willis has done
Why would you want more porn drawn by Willis? It's awful and not arousing in the least. It's basically just horrific facial expressions that make the participants look like they're being tortured, bizarre looking dicks and ridiculous sound effects (though the latter does at least give them comedy value).
>Soooo your saying I can't use modern sensibilities when talking about modern problems cause it doesn't fit your narrative?
Don't be a dumbass. You took an analogy based on an obvious historical reference--black people getting killed for being "uppity", which totally happened and was totally excusable for a long-ass time--and decided I was trying to talk about modern race issues, a whole other conversation, instead of addressing the point of the analogy.
>Besides temporary insanity is also called crimes of passion and does usually result in lighter sentences.
Yeah, and it's a weak defense that doesn't always work. Hell, limits on insanity defenses have started popping up across the country after doing so got ruled as constitutional. California banned the gay panic defense in 2014.
>You know a quick way to mot get murdered by surprising someone with your Dick? Don't surprise them be open be honest, if you need to trick someone into liking you cause your trans then they are not worth it.
We're in agreement there. I do believe for trans peoples' safety, they should disclose before getting hot and heavy, but keep in mind people have assaulted and murdered transmen and transwomen upon finding out they're trans even when NO SEXUAL CONTACT IS GOING ON. Like...drunk guy hits on transwoman. Finds out she's trans, breaks a bottle over her head. Was she supposed to wear a sign?
You also seem to be treating murderous violence in response to a surprise penis as a reasonable or at least understandable response. I don't.
>tfw you'll never meet a humble crusader girl to marry and fight pagans with
tfw I still liked the Billie x Ruth one he did
What kind of storyline would piss him off though?
That's the thing about Mormons. They're all extremely nice people, and the church really takes care of its members. Aside from emotional support, it provides a sense of structure for people who are lost, and allows for socialization for people who can't seem to find it elsewhere. They help young adults find jobs and get educated, and they help older members who are struggling financially with, well, pretty much anything they may need.
But then you get to the weird rituals, the tithing, the bad marriages, the fact that the church keeps most of the money it collects for its own purposes rather than charity, and what appears to be a personality cult around Joseph Smith, who history tells us was a liar and a con man. That last one in particular. Just try bringing that up with Mormon friends. The way they react is seriously reminiscent of brainwashing.
And you're right, members that try to cut ties from the church and have their records removed are frequently ostracized. I've never seen that here in California, but my ex-girlfriend in Utah sure has.
Poor guy just wanted to get his daughter out of an insane campus where they let crazy girls run around beating people up in costumes.
>Ethan finally gets fed up with being gay and rapes Joyce
>Joyce decides she likes being ruled over halfway through
>Her virgin pussy cures Ethan of his faggotry
>Meanwhile Walky and Dorothy decide that race-mixing is wrong
>Walky fucks Malaya
>Sal gets justifiably shot by cops
Literally everybody itt wants to see this, I'm both amazed and disappointed a drawfag hasn't gone there yet.
>what appears to be a personality cult around Joseph Smith, who history tells us was a liar and a con man. That last one in particular. Just try bringing that up with Mormon friends. The way they react is seriously reminiscent of brainwashing.
Well, I imagine devout Christians and Muslims would react in a similar way if you said Jesus or Mohammed were con men.
If we had more historical records of their lives I don't imagine they'd be all that different.
As long as the hands are still involved.
>Walky fucks Malaya
>If we had more historical records of their lives I don't imagine they'd be all that different
Probably not. I'm willing to bet that they were both mostly decent guys, but nobody is perfect. Smith, on the other hand...
>I'm willing to bet that they were both mostly decent guys
Nothing about what we know about Muhammad impies he was even close to "decent," even considering the morals of the time.
AssCreed Syndicate and Dragon's Age Inquisition have some if you're looking for them.
I think it's more common in videogames because it allows them to look inclusive while still filling their world with dudes dudes dudes
ur a witty lil cunt ill give u that m8
>I think it's more common in videogames because it allows them to look inclusive while still filling their world with dudes dudes dudes
>Gender is "The category to which an individual is assigned by self or others, on the basis of sex."
That sounds like something completely unnecessary that only serves to maintain gender roles and inequal treatment of men and women.
To be fair, Les Bean was more or less just a character who existed to be gay and it was played mostly for comedy. Over time she developed into an actual character but at first she was just "Robin's sidekick who also wanted to fuck her".
At least Leslie was nice.
...And, ironically, served as the straight man to the other people being wacky all the time as she was, beyond her pun name, a completely normal person who was a lesbian.
Unless something changed in shortpacked after I stopped reading it.
Oh, no, he was identifying as a male long before he ended up in the army. He just had to double down on it because he wanted to fight instead of being stuck in the womens' roles.
And he's Tevinter, which is basically fantasy Spain, not Qunari
Alright, alright, you got me.
Something I don't understand completely is that I've heard Willis say he felt bad for drawing those pin ups of just Joyce in a bra, but she's done hankypanky before, so what's the big deal? He should just get it over with so he can buy more toys
for his kids this time, hopefully.
Oh shit, how will Willis handle his kids and his toy collection?
She never really got beyond 'Robin's fuckbuddy/sidekick', desu.
I mean, the one time she acted on her own volition was because she wanted to break up Joe/Robin so she could get her bisexual back. And that was an endgame plotline.
That's what makes Willis such an amazing trainwreck to watch. If he were doing this stuff intentionally he'd be brilliant, but instead he loops so far into one argument that he actually makes strong arguments for the opposition
Well there was that period of years they were broken up and She even dated Malaya for a short time. In fact, during that period, Leslie kinda became her own character and even became like assistant manager.
Oh, one of them will break or open a Transformer toy and he'll go ballistic.
That or he'll try so hard to not be his parents (or what he conceives as his parents) that they'll never properly grow up.
>That doesn't make it ok to target them for being trans.
She wasn't targeted for being a tranny, she was targeted for being a cunt who wouldn't listen to repeated attempts to get her to stop being an annoying cunt and bothering everyone else. Calling her a tranny was Blessed Mary's way of getting under her skin.
Gotta spend hundreds each year on textbooks in Australia.
They put out new ones each year as well, so you can't really get them second hand, and they don't make digital copies. At least in Law.
I envy my brother, he's doing Medicine and everything they use is digital so on the first day there, everyone just shares the 120 Gigs or so of digital textbooks that they've pirated so far.
No matter how ugly your porn is, someone will fap to it.
Take it from me.
that hasn't been an arc in this comic yet has it? Cause I'm almost certain Willis is deranged enough to try and push a 'just because you're dating her doesn't give you the right to be angry when she wants to fuck other people' arc
He hasn't, but if he does, I expect us to do more than just chortle about it on /co/, like we are now.
That'd be the last straw, in which we take action and somehow drive Willis into a mental ward.
I was thinking more of a Joan of Arc martyr situation. Something that shows the true struggle she has to endure and her bravery for doing so all for our salvation and protection.
>Carla admits to himself he's turned on by Mary's no-nonsense hardline attitude
>Mary likes flagellating the depravity out of sinners
>Hard BDSM relationship with humiliation, forcing Carla to say he's a man and so on
That would probably hack him off.
There's significantly more energy put into supporting fictional gays, lesbians, and trans characters vs helping actual gay/lesbian/and trans people. It's easier to generate more cred when those being 'saved' can't speak back.
>I support trans rights
Remind me what rights trannies are being denied again?
Yeah, no, fuck you. If you continue acting like a cunt after I've been nothing but polite and just want to be left alone...I'm gonna rub your parent's murder suicide in your face if it means you'll fuck off.
>Caring about Paul's epistles
It's like this faggot doesn't know even the most basic shit about American Christianity, or Christianity in general for that matter.
but that's an equal right everyone has. From the fats, to the popmarked, to the greasy haired, the wide nosed, elephant ears, cankles, and just plain old fashion bad sense of style, it's everyone's right as an American to get shat on for their appearance by people who don't give two shits about how it would make them feel
>If someone sucks you target them where they are most sensitive
That sentence needs a comma.
Depending on whether it goes before or after 'sucks', it could have very different meanings.
The Shortpacked to Dumbing of Age transition was extra annoying because, among many other things, Amber overcame her baggage with her dad, only to regain the same baggage and more for her DoA arrival.
Basically, Willis knows only one story to tell with Amber.
In the coming muzzo purge, you'll be the first to taste cold nipponese steel, dirt-eater.
Finished this comic.
Also yeah, this comic will be on a sliding timeline.
Eh, it's not like I'm envisioning people posted up by the doors, but it eliminates some of the current ambiguities.
>But I'm really a woman!
You still have a dick, go in the dick bathroom.
well...it's a sex comic done in spite so it shouldn't be too complicated. First just think of which characters should bone, from there finding a thin premise shouldn't be too hard
well hey, that's actually really good. Carla is a habitual asshole so you need almost no reason to put her in Mary's room, she probably goes in there uninvited in the actual comic already when the door's unlocked. From there you can just have them trade barbs and then hate sex, have Carla catch Mary looking at weird porn and call her out on being a hypocrite and then hate sex or sneak in to trash her room before finding a pile of her underwear and starts jerking off with a handful of Mary's panties while sniffing another bunch until Mary catches her and then hate sex