If Willis had balls, he'd make her turn out to be muslim.
Holy shit, is this clownshoe just going to keep doing this for the rest of his life? I stopped reading his crap back in, what, 2003 or whenever It's Walky was like one year in? Jesus Christ his art has barely improved.
Carla's supposed to be a trouble making bitch, why did she shut down when Mary called her a boy like she got hit with fucking kryptonite or something?
It's really stupid, she should have just insulted her back or decked her in the face.
I like how he's writing her like a comic book villain ("vagrants"? Really?) even though she's absolutely in the right here.
Skatergirl was deliberately harassing her after being asked politely to stop, and the RA only swoops in when Mary drops a single insult in response.
Willis actually decided to leave comments "open" tonight.
I said simply that I thought Mary was least in the wrong due to Carla's behavior, and my comment wasn't approved. (not even modded out, never allowed to be seen by anyone)
On one hand, the fact that she's been holding onto all of this information until she can throw it at Ruth suggests she's got some sort of axe to grind.
If Mary were really all that concerned about rules and the like she would've reported all of this crap days ago.
On the other hand, it doesn't mean that her assertions are wrong; Ruth is a shitty R.A., she is fucking the cheerleader, and someone has illegally moved into the dorms.
She's only bullying the girl because she fucked up her brand new skates. That shit's expensive. Before that she was just being an annoying asshole and wasn't specifically trying to piss of Mary.
Dear lord, more anon. I need to see them do the deed.
>Skatergirl was deliberately harassing her after being asked politely to stop, and the RA only swoops in when Mary drops a single insult in response.
If Willis was a smart writer he'd turn the story into something about how, Hey Even gays can be pricks too.
Anyone remember Extreme Ghostbusters? And how their was a guy in a wheel chair? And he was a jerk, got no special treatment and got called out on being a jerk. They treated him like he was a goddamn person and not a lesson for white people
You know guys, I have this weird attraction for the name Mary, it just sounds life a wife material name.
Also dark brown hair and brown eyes.
My only complaint is the fact that David also has dark brown hair and brown eyes, is from a religious background and shit.
Is he projecting in this character.
I would also portray lgbt people like useless pricks who need to be saved every time someone tells them a small insult if I hated them.
Mary asked her to stop. Carla continued to skate in front of her door with a 'fuck you you can't do shit to me!' attitude. That's bullying. Only in 2016 is Carla the hero and Mary the villain.
I agree with OP, I wish Willis made Mary Muslim. Suddenly the fanbase would explode on itself.
He's got a whole fucking crew reviewing submitted comments. Only the chosen few are permitted into the "safe space".
I remember when the complete fucking debacle of the arc with Becky's dad was going on, you had droves of people on /co/ submitting criticisms on the message boards, and probably less than 1 in 100 were ever approved to be posted. Hell even people from the comic's facebook were complaining about it.
This is the problem with writers like Willis. They treat any and all criticism (even constructive criticism) like it's a personal attack.
It's amazing how many of the comments are just repeating thing of "I want Mary grievously harmed/killed". All because she's willing to actually expose Ruth's incompetence/infringements if Ruth doesn't just leave her alone.
the fact that the author has to go this far to vilify mary just so people can say "she took it too far" is pretty shitty.
and she's STILL right. unbelievable that this "villain" is gaining even more sympathy for just telling the truth, despite the way it comes across.
oh hey, you're right. Figured since he shut down the comments last time he'd keep them locked down until the next story beat. Guess once he knew his loyal support group had mostly the right opinions he was okay to opening it back up
David Willis has stuck with the same cast of characters across four different comics. My theory is that each different character represents a different facet of David Willis' overall personality, similar to stories such as that in "Inside Out" where the five Emotions are literal personifications of their emotional concepts.
For example, I'd suggest that Daniel Walky is David Willis' idealization of himself, right down to the fact that the two share the same initials.
Another example: Dina is possibly a representation of Willis' latent Asperger's Syndrome, what with her obsession with dinosaurs and his obsession with Transformers.
I'd say that Mary is possibly representative of Willis' Christian upbringing, as you suggest. In Willis' simplification, there likely isn't much more to it than "I am Christian. If you are not Christian, then I do not like you." Or something along those lines.
Nah m8 just because she told a girl to fuck off and continued skating in the hall doesn't make it bullying. That's as stupid as calling Mary's comment bullying.
Nobody is being bullied in this situation, but Mary did destroy Carla's property and she'd win if she brought it to court. "Someone was an asshole to me" isn't a legitimate defense for destroying someone's things.
Nice catch. Fixed it.
Mary is probably in the wrong as a person but she's damn well in the right in this instance.
Carla was skating down the hall and being a disruption, and then she was outright antagonizing Mary when asked to stop and then continued to do so after Mary stopped her.
And you can say "B-But she's a bitch!" Did she throw Becky under the bus right away? Did she bully Carla for being trans before being antagonized herself? Did she go to Ruth's bosses and tell them about her and Billie?
Yeah she is a bitch but she didn't do anything wrong in this instance except say something offensive.
Stands for Resident Assistant, they're older students who live in the same dorm halls to monitor the others.
Basically a nanny because modern college students are constantly perceived as being uncivilized baboons incapable of maintaining their own living areas, getting along peacefully, and one bad day away from killing themselves without constant supervision.
That was a past comic. Willis has probably had time to lock down the metaphors.
I bet when DoA ends, he's going to think he's a genius.
Knowing Willis, he's probably going to make her eat carpet instead.
And then make people pay to watch. Because Slipshine is bleeding money.
The comments section is hilarious. Whenever it was Mary using glue to trip up Carla they were all up in arms about not resorting to violence, but now that Mary is the one at fault they want blood.
>Daniel Walky is David Willis' idealization of himself, right down to the fact that the two share the same initials
three of them
daniel wilcox is the bi guy dating the superhero
david walkerton is the not-as-black twin
Not to mention as an RA she herself has broken numerous rules in regard to assulting other students and Drinking on school grounds.
In the begining, the school apparently ignored he violence because she ran a tight ship (which no school would ignore a physically violent RA) but now their is plenty of reasons for her to lose her position.
I keep all my writing in private mostly and tend to reuse my characters shaking things up each time. I add characters, I rotate the cast, I change dynamics and affiliations. It can be a fun thing to do I get the appeal.
Still I can't imagine doing it on a public level like Willis does.
BastRd keeps erasing my " I love Mary" comment. Meanwhile everyone else is allowed to call my waifu names and threaten her with violence.
Fucking hypocrites. You should all go and spam those SJW PANDERING PIECES OF SHIT.
Wait, I thought Walky WAS the not-as-black twin.
I gotta get the names right.
But thanks for the heads up about Wilcox. I'm sure he's got some metaphorical repression going on as well.
Using the same cast and retooling your concept is fine when you're in the conceptual pre-production stage. When you make it public, that's when you lock it down.
Using the same cast over and over is just lazy. Only toy franchises seem to do it well, though that's mostly because they're goddamn toy franchises and not exactly trying to sell themselves as being part of a larger multiverse.
Here's today's strip -- the day evil won
Reminder that this is all started because the trans girl was being a cunt who refused to let other students study in peace
>Because Slipshine is bleeding money
What do they spend the money on? Retaining creators? I guess they could be paying them a fixed salary, but that seems a bit off for modern internet money grubbing.
Real reason? Because I was a HUGE fan of Willis a few years back. To the point where I can't bring myself to hate the guy. I just want him to go back to how he was back then but he's too far gone. And he has a hugbox of over 100 people who felate him about how good his writing is.
I don't believe it. I've been reading this shit for three years and I don't believe it. Ruth actually got beat.
Also she totally just implied that if Carla called up the gang to beat the shit out of Mary she wouldn't bat an eye.
I discussed this with my gf earlier
Walky is his ideal self
Joyce is his ideal girl/best friend
Joyce's parents are a representation of Willis' parents
Mary and toedad are how he see's mainstream Christian fundamentalist
Most of the other characters are only the for some kind of shit dialogue on a minority sub group, and show nothing beyond those traits.
Joe might be the only character with real growth becomes Joyce. The only difference is Joyce will never have a moment where people will see, understand, and accept her views of christianity.
Not on me, but if you look around on Google you should be able to find something.
Though Willis probably shouldn't have used the frightful look on her face in the fourth panel. It basically points out "lol bluff" to the audience, which we could have easily gleaned from the fact that she's walking away. This kind of reaction is more reserved for comedic situations, which this particular storyline doesn't quite call for.
Or something like that. I'm bad at explaining things.
Well, actually, I forgot to upload some of them one at a time , so now it has to update for a few weeks.
It should be all up to date in 2 weeks, unless I do decide to make more.
Wow, that was pretty good.
Too bad Mary is gonna get beat up in the alley way and raped by Carla and her friends.
It may not necessarily be illegal, I'm not an expert in college regulation, but the RA's are technically in charge of the other dorm residents. A level below sleeping with the TA of the class you're in, but it's still a conflict of interest I would imagine.
I think the logic is that if Carla did something to retaliate, then if she was to acknowledge that then she would also have to acknowledge what she did to spur it on in the first place.
I was an RA here and that's not a perception, it's absolutely true. Grad students are better, but undergrads are fucking monkeys at the best of times.
Apparently something about RA's aren't allowed to date the students under their watch? Don't know if that's just at Willis' fictional university, but at my university we could fuck whoever we wanted.
Although the RA here is also a raging alcoholic (strict no booze rule in dorms) getting an undergrad hooked on raging alcoholism as well, so she's pretty shitty at her job.
I know your pain, bro. No matter how stupid he gets, I can't bring myself to forget It's Walky. It helps that for some reason he's been unable to ruin Joyce. She's still just as perfect as she was before.
draw more sal please she's fucking hot and one of the best parts of the comic when she's not being used for retarded racial plot lines
That was AFTER she was asked to stop and refused to.
Skating indoors when and where people are studying is inconsiderate. Continuing to do so after being told that you're being disruptive is indefensible.
I'm going to assume there's a guideline about the R.A.s not being allowed to be in a relationship with a younger student given any sort of possibility for authority abuse.
That's my guess anyway. Ruth once said that her relationship with Billie could be a cause for losing her job.
Man, this on top of the post he just did about all the readers he's gathered from his various comics, and how DoA's the biggest.
It doesn't seem to dawn on him that they and his Core Audience of 100 some odd regulars would scatter to the four winds if he said the wrong thing online.
An act of defiance, a spark of rising fire. Mary rides alone against a gluttony in leaders, and unchecked degenerates stalking the twisted wretch that was once a hall of learning. Our Savior, our Mary, the mother of the saving grace to come. Her tools are not the shawl and humility, but word, will, and wits, sword and shield against the bullies of our time. Deus Vult, Mother Mary, Deus Vult.
>has to get blackmailed into doing her job correctly
>proceeds to dig the hole even deeper by threatening her blackmailer
She should just turn her in anyway. She's clearly unfit for the job.
You know, if in that moment Car-la standed up for herself like a real human and not a sjw pandering machine:^) I would have actually be glad that Mary lost to that.
But no, I fucking hate people portraying lgbt people like that and believing they're good people.
Is like what Willis once said, you can vote for Obama and be all nigga friendly but then you go and protect a cop who shoot a criminal who happened to be black.
Ok, this doesn't make any sense, but still, I'm lgbt(I'm not telling you wich one you fuck) and I'm not a whiny bitch you fucking sjw white knights.
>Skating indoors when and where people are studying is inconsiderate.
Skating indoors is stupid, but a dorm hallway is a public area and she has no reason to bend over backwards just because someone is studying. I don't know if you've never lived in a dorm or if your just some sort of cuck with their panties permanently in a twist, but that's not how shit works there.
I don't think it's there to point out the bluff as much as it is that Ruth's realizing she's put herself in a bad situation by both letting Becky live there and sleeping with one of the students under her watch. Which, let's be honest, Willis characters never consider the consequences of their actions because their world never punishes them.
At my college they just can't be a resident of the dorm you are an RA of, completely fine if you're fucking the cheerleader from across campus. There's no authority reach over there.
>but a dorm hallway is a public area and she has no reason to bend over backwards just because someone is studying. I don't know if you've never lived in a dorm or if your just some sort of cuck with their panties permanently in a twist, but that's not how shit works there
Lol, what are you talking about? I studied at NYU and for all of finals month every semester there was a hard clampdown on any kind of noise in the dorms, they'd fine you $25 every time if you were disruptive
A fair point. I still feel that the reaction given is more exaggerated than it needs to be. He could show the shock in her eyes, not her arms, for example.
Hmm. I should have saved links, then.
But I'm pretty sure that part of the reason they keep Willis around is because whenever a new porn comic of his comes out, one-month subscriptions skyrocket.
>Carla is just glaring at Mary as she leaves
>not outright calling her the bitch she is
Girl I know you've got that in you, why are you falling so short right now?
Most dorms I've been to have some level of quiet hours. I can't recall what time of day this is, but if it was during the night and the skating was causing a ruckus there would absolutely be grounds for the skating to be stopped.
Fucking this, portraying your token trans character as a damsel in distress who can't deal with a small insult is more insulting than anything else. I get that he wants to show how "progressive" he is but it's just reeks of trying too hard.
I love how everyone in the comments for the newest post are saying pretty much "if someone hurts you with triggering words, it's okay to physically harm them and even murder them." This is [current year] sjw.
No if there was a quiet hour system in place then yeah it would be more than just a kinda dickish thing to do.
No one is quiet in the residential dorms, it has nothing to do with her being a tranny. Skating isn't any worse then someone next door's bed creaking really loudly when the fuck, or some douche playing the guitar in the hallway.
I can't believe I'm saying this, but yeah what the fuck? We've been shown she's a bitch when she needs to be, why the fuck are you holding that shit back now?
Holding shit in turns you into an Amber for fucks sake.
"She’s an amazing villain, because she is the combined id of the ideology of the dominant. She’s the living embodiment of every microaggression and casual bigotry, the threat that comes out of nowhere and then gets away with it because it trades on power and privilege.
And it’s why I would hope every last person who was defending her in this arc looks hard at exactly the type of person they’ve been defending and how awful she really is."
Someone wrote this unironically.
She stopped the girl with a glue trap and fucked up the her new skates, that's not sane or rational. That's something Wile E Coyote does. If she were really sane she just would have went to Ruth and then Ruth would have fucked up Carla for being an asshole.
I don't think it's a stretch to think of Mary went to Ruth first that Ruth would have dealt with Carla. Ruth just likes fucking shit up, and if the Rules let her, should would fuck Carla's shit.
>If she were really sane she just would have went to Ruth and then Ruth would have fucked up Carla for being an asshole.
She only came running when someone triggered someone. Ruth gives no damns if there isn't something to get back at her upbringing for.
Insanity breeds alike. When you censor and choose the comments you want, you breed a concoction built for praise of the creator, the most radical thoughts, and no dialogue or discussion. The antithesis of the free market of ideas, a petri dish experimented on to find the most demented thoughts and make them the standard, the normal.
Her reaction to someone being an annoyance in a public hall was to set up a glue trap and to destroy their property instead of just going to her ever-present RA. That's pretty bitchy, but not too bitchy.
The true bitch part was going for the low blow; if you're winning the argument there's no fucking reason to go there except to be a bitch.
So he blocked off the comments on the last strip, so he could get the Last Word in for this one?
>Tranny gets Sal, and both confront Mary. Mary easily takes tranny out with an uppercut. Sal tries to get a punch in, but Mary takes her down, too. Sal tries to regain her dignity with some sassy black bullshit speech, Mary coldly turns to Sal and says: "Do something about it, NIGGER!."
So basically Mary is the girl in pic related.
It was my understanding, as someone who doesn't really read this comic except in the chunks that get posted here in the bitching threads, that Mary has been trying to deal with this in several ways, such as talking to Carla and the RA, before resorting to the glue.
What kind of shit school did you go to? My dorms were never terribly loud. The RAs actually paid attention and would deal with people being overly loud or doing stupid/dangerous shit like trying to skate or skateboard down the halls.
They never did call the cops on the pot smokers like they kept threatening to, though.
For the record, she asked her, quite politely to stop, was refused in a pretty bitchy way.
Attempted to dissuade her from skating by passively impeding her. Which failed.
Then resorted to the ACME brand bullshit.
To which Carla responded immediately to being more annoying.
Yeah, they both fucked up but one was much more a cunt about it.
I wonder if David is gonna close the comments again in the strip patreonanon posted.
His own retarded sheep are gonna call him on his shit when they see Mary didn't lose right away.
I think I saw a bunch of comments wishing Ruthless here punchs her on the face.
Tomorrow is gonna be fun
What part of "low blow" don't you understand? That was simply the easiest example. Another one would be just jumping to "Well at least my dad doesn't fuck children" or "What do you know? You're fucking bankrupt."
Going for a low personal attack that has no bearing on the argument you're having makes you a bitch. It's not hard to understand.
Fucking wow. I just posted on the site "the funny part is that Mary is literally right about everything", and not five minutes later it was deleted from the site.
What a fucking soppy hugbox that fandom is. Fuck you, Willis.
You keep calling this an arguement, like they're debating politics. Mary wants Carla to fuck off. She tells Carla it's against the rules and please leave. Carla tell he to pretty much fuck off. This was personal the moment Carla didn't respect Mary's request. This wasn't an arguement. This was a fight.
To be fair, I would delete it too just for the huge shitstorm that post would cause. There's plenty of comments already with more nuance and they're still met with lots of angry responses.
I think the point being made here is Carla was being a bitch herself and when Mary responds with bitchiness back. She gets paralyzed by the attack. The whole can dish it out but can't take it.
It's the whole social contract shit, I don't go running around being a dick to my friends so they don't go being a dick back. As soon as you shit on them, the gloves are off, and if you have some aspect of your personality or life that literally causes you to freeze in emotional pain you shouldn't be the person starting the fight because you're gonna lose it.
Being a bitch to someone and expecting them not to be a bitch back is just retarded.
I'm fine with them all being terrible for different reasons, I just hope Willis realizes nobody is blameless there. No reason being trans or gay should give you a free pass to be an asshole.
Did the red head fuck the tranny or something?
(not previous anon)
I tried posting even a -completely- innocuous comment to see if I could get through moderation, and I couldn't.
they might be in complete whitelist mode at the moment.
Graduate TA here. I would assume the same rules apply to RAs as apply to us - there's a massive conflict of interest involved with relationships between students and TAs/RAs. If you go around fucking your students there's a very good chance you're setting yourself up to get a Title IX complaint on your file, possibly even get expelled.
To be perfectly honest though, she shouldn't have been frozen like that. Carla has demonstrated that she can take it just as well as she can dish it, at least well enough to mount a counter-attack. There's no reason she shouldn't have found her words again by now.
Oh yeah, she should have fired back, but then that would have shown that some people are capable of not crumpling under the enormous pressure of mean words and we can't have that now can we?
I would have accepted blistering anger too if Carla responded with just a flood of mean shit back because awww shit you're going that low? Time to bring out the real hurtful shit. But utter pacifisty? That speaks of a weak will.
Ok /co/, I survived the toedad incident. It was silly and stupid, but that was all it was to me.
But this shit makes me rage.
>Person being a cunt
>Goads Mary until she snaps and insults him
>Can't fucking handle it, shuts down
>Corrupt, useless RA leaps into action the instant tranny is hurt
>BTFO because corrupt as shit
And that's great. Fucking fantastic. At last these cunts are getting their comeuppance.
Except you know the fucking author thinks Mary is the complete villain. Literally titles the strip: the day evil won because he can't write well enough for it to be evil, he has to tell you so. HE GETS FUCKING PISSED THAT PEOPLE EMPATHISE WITH A FICTIONAL CHARACTER HE CREATED, AND ATTACKS THEM. His fucking fans gang up behind him.
And you know, you just know, the next strip is going to be Mary getting artificially BTFO through contrived means, and everyone's going to agrre the RA and the Tranny were right all along.
Rant over. I don't think I've ever sperged out this much before.
>tranny's being an annoying jerk
"Fuck off tranny"
>RA walks in
"You're not allowed to say mean things!"
"You're a shit RA! You're breaking the rules and you don't even know what's going on! You are the worst at your job! I don't care what you think!"
"I HOPE SOMEONE MURDERS YOU!"
No, it speaks of a weak writer. It's breaking character for Carla to not at least be sputtering angrish by this point.
Or hell, just her glaring at Mary and saying "You're an absolute bitch, you know that?" before stalking off. That would have been in character for her, in line with someone having been shocked to their core, and probably better than whatever hamfisted moral superiority revenge that's about to happen.
>the next strip is going to be Mary getting artificially BTFO through contrived means, and everyone's going to agrre the RA and the Tranny were right all along
It's going to be painful and horrible to see that happen
It'll probably have nothing to do with her or her attitude getting her in trouble, it'll probably just be happenstance. If that happens it'll literally be like a DeviantArt user's first edgelord comic where they kill an MSPaint version of the popular kid at school with their hedgehog-sona.
>Literally titles the strip: the day evil won
No, that was me. I thought /co/ of all places would get the reference
This Cerebus person is great
"Really? Gosh, that’s so awful. I had all of that, continual physical and emotional abuse for “being a (homophobic slur)” (brief note on this one, this was in ultra mega fundieville where friend’s parents would casually talk about how they would kill their son if he became a (homophobic slur)) because I wasn’t doing the heterosexual things I was supposed to, and now as an out trans woman, I’ve been discriminated out of jobs, been disowned by a family that wanted to send me to reparative therapy, gotten used to regular instances of people hiding their kid’s eyes, spitting on me, and muttering casual slurs, and oh yeah, had people casually debating/threatening to kill me on two separate occasions, once for the terrible crime of hugging my girlfriend on a street corner but being the “wrong kind” of hot lesbian to harass.
But gawrsh, please tell me more about how you were bullied as a nerd and how this makes you so much above this new fashioned transphobia and its hippity hops and vidjeo games.
I’m sure it’ll be all sorts of illuminating."
>Having glue stuck to your roller skates and being called a man is vile abuse that no one deserves
She did. Snowflake was a cunt and continue to do it. Mary then behaved like a cartoon villain in a comic strip. It was funny. But because this is only a comic strip sometimes, the rules change and now its assault.
She did, but she could have also gone to the RA to get her to stop. Ruth has proven that authority goes to her head, so it isn't like she wouldn't have jumped at the chance to take the hall's "resident asshole" down a peg.
“Ok, writing this out ahead of time, because it’s rather important to me.
Yes, this is a clear cut form of transphobia. In fact, it’s rather more clear-cut than most of us deal with. Most of the time the transphobia isn’t quite as direct as this or maintains some level of deniability so that it can gaslight us as much as it wounds. Yes, this form does still occur though and it hits like a punch every time. So much so that just reading it last night in preview left me a bit “oof”. And no, there’s no possibility that this is intended as anything other than intentional transphobia. She’s telling a transwoman she belongs in the boy’s side. That’s about as direct as you can get without bringing in slurs or direct violence.
But more importantly, I want to speak to every person who’s about to write a little screed about how Carla totally deserves this and brought this upon yourself.
And I want to say, please don’t. Please think for a second before writing it and please keep in mind the reality for trans individuals in society.
Cause, this… this is our daily lives. Dealing with fucking shit like this and worse. Dealing with violence and hatred and endless microaggressions where you view checking your blind spots for threats as just your new normal.
And for individuals like me, we’ve been told that we’ve deserved every ounce of it. For “defying God”. For “confusing children”. For “flaunting our way of life”. For “being so incautious as to be out”. Personally, I’ve heard every variation. I’ve had my own kin tell me that I earned every bad thing that happened to me simply for “clinging to this delusion”.
We trans people are frequently and incessantly told that we deserve shit like this because of stuff we’ve done or haven’t done, none of which actually deserve shit like this.
So please keep that in mind before you write your little defense of Mary or your condemnation of Carla. It really would mean the world to me."
What gets me even more is that Carla's behavior is written of as just a teen being "a bit annoying", when she was clearly told what she was doing was disruptive, and not only refused to stop but deliberately antagonized the person who had asked them to be more considerate.
Carla's behavior is this situation is many times more repugnant than Mary's.
Hundred bucks the tranny bitch goes immediately to the university and reports Mary for triggering her and Mary gets kicked out while the tranny and RA and everyone else on the floor stands their looking like smug fucking cunts
>and not only refused to stop but deliberately antagonized the person who had asked them to be more considerate.
That only happened after Mary glued her skates. She was "just" skating up and down the hall before that point.
Imagine seeing a crowd of people watching a retarded person holding a tray full of wine glasses while riding a unicycle. They know he's gonna fuck up. He's gonna fuck up royally. It's only mildly entertaining watching him attempt to ride the unicycle, but the entertainment comes in watching it all crash.
>Mary is wearing Uggs
Wow Willis, way to play to stereotypes.
>important exams coming up
>gross transvestite keeps loudly skating up and down the halls
>ask them politely to stop
>they escalate shit until the RA intervenes
>calls you a bigot for not being more sensitive to their tranny skater needs
>snap at RA for being a corrupt, ineffective piece of shit
>your RA basically tells you that she's going to ignore any and all abuse that happens to you because you hurt the special snowflakes precious feelings
>mfw this is legitimately a better burn and comeback than whatever stupid revenge is about to happen
it's so simple too
it's literally all that needs to be said
This. Sooooo much this. Mary said that Carla belonged in the boys dorm, and there were actual people in the comments section this time around that were confused by that because they didn't know Carla was trans.
So without any knowledge of Carla being trans, Mary's comment just makes it seem like she's saying Carla's just as rowdy as boys.
>She's only bullying the girl because she fucked up her brand new skates.
Then I guess skating in the hallway after being asked not to wasn't such a great idea, was it?
Carla had every chance to NOT be a cunt. This is the price he pays for it. He has NO right to get indignant about it
>She was "just" skating up and down the hall before that point.
Imagine someone doing this shit for hours on end during what is presumably a quiet study time on the floor
And how is the RA'S treat supposed to work?
Mary can still just complain to someone else on staff. It is not like this RA was vigilant anyway.
"I AM BAD AT MY JOB BUT I WILL BE EVEN MORE USELESS IN YOUR CASE. THAT WILL SHOW YOU TO RESPECT THE FEELS."
I already posted it in the comments of the actual comic. Willis knows who I am and our relationship varies from friendly to him thinking I'm an asshole. I just keep all the lewder stuff here.
>Mary can still just complain to someone else on staff
I distinctly remember someone else (probably Billie) threatening to report Ruth to the staff. Ruth just laughed and said the staff doesn't care what she does as long as she keeps the floor under control.
>She is the worst damn RA possible
No fucking shit. Becky's a fucking homeless runaway whose been living in someone's dorm rent free for months and Ruth hasn't even noticed.
She could get fucking expelled for that shit in the real world.
Yeah? Uh, I guess clowns use them. And bears. Street performers use unicycles. Eccentric cyclists? Does that help you visualize the shitty metaphor?
I guess you can imagine the retarded person on roller shoes if it helps you feel more immersed in it. They don't even have to be mentally handicapped. It can just be some asshole on a unicycle.
Damm, this is the first time I use my twitter in years.
I hope he shits himself
>Oh, so for you, skating in the hallway is worse than an act of verbal aggression against a disadvantaged person.
>Whatever the hell your relative morals are, they’re pretty suspect.
>mfw reading this
No, Mary is a decent villain (the only one in DOA so far) because she is somewhat competent and, contrary to what this person wrote, is not a complete mustache twirler despite Willis' best efforts to make her one (that will change soon enough because Willis but hey, enjoy it before he goes and ruins a good thing again). Yeah she's a giant bitch but she probably wouldn't have ever been a problem if people hadn't provoked her through incompetence (Ruth), thoughtlessness (Carla and I think Billie also broke into her room while she was naked once), and deliberate action (Carla once again and also Ruth bitch-slapped her before). Also she got an actual build up.
This person says that she's some kind of powerful character but in truth she was completely powerless and harmless until people felt the need to kick the hornet's nest. She's not the representation of the dominant, she's the representation of every conflict in a person's life that could have been easily avoided with a certain level of tact. Yes Mary is unpleasant but she was also very easily ignored. It says a lot about the mindset of these people that they feel so besieged by someone who was perfectly content to sit in their room alone with their unpleasantness until someone else decided to pick a fight.
Mary isn't protesting abortion clinics or harassing gay people or anything. She's just kind of there. I get that she's awful but is it really so hard to just ignore her? I feel like a lot of SJW/Tumblrite types would be so much better off if they could just learn to live their own lives instead of worrying about people that don't matter. They just cultivate unnecessary negativity in their lives.
You can't argue with those people. It's impossible for them to understand that you can dislike Mary but still hate Carla at the same time. They can only understand black and white.
Nothing about her personality or her actions make her a villain... at least not outside of the twisted world of SJW special snowflakes where every minor offense is a fucking war crime.
Because the shitty horny RA isn't keeping a lid on that shit
Turned out better than this guy
also on his phone
No, she was set up as the "actual" hall asshole for some time. At the end of the last arc, she was shown watching Billie leave Ruth's room with an evil grin on her face. Her becoming a villain has been in play for some time.
I'd honestly prefer you didn't post that but what's done is done.
Well I dunno. I also posted it on the comic. He might just assume that the person reposted it from the file I posted on the comic. Maybe.
Her RA is knowingly violating university rules while also blatantly not doing her fucking job.
Mary, desperate for some basic fucking order in the dorm, used that information as leverage against Ruth, who then went full fucking psycho and basically announced to the dorm that it's now open season on dorm residents she doesn't like.
In real life, all that is true. In the comic, she's being set up as the villain.
It's really not that different from other college comedies who set up the people trying to enforce the rules as the bad guys.
>In the comic, she's being set up as the villain.
Yeah, and I'm telling you that's fucking retarded.
Apart from a glue prank Mary has done literally nothing to warrant being set up or treated as a villain, yet it's clear from every panel she appears in and every word of dialogue involving her, that Willis regards Mary as every bit an irredeemable evil monster who should be not just rebuked but verbally and physically destroyed.
Thank god, I thought it was just me siding with Mary. It's nice to see a character that stops taking other people's shit!
>but muh misgendering
>but muh homophobia
Catering to trans people is like a common courtesy thing IMO, if they're being a cunt then the gloves come off, same with everyone else.
Basically this >>79175862 is what I was saying. They need to do this. Let the assholes be shitty, ignore them and live your life. It's not goddamn hard. She could literally just walk away, tell everyone what happened and live her life while the whole dorm makes Mary even more of a social pariah than she probably already was. Or even better, she could not rat Mary out and wait for someone else to inevitably witness her being terrible and Mary gets turned on while Carla and Ruth walk away with clean hands. Mary has basically no power here other than what they're giving her.
It's hard to type with one hand but I had to know! Since when did you start getting 4chan threads Willis? You think you're special now that you have a cute redheaded trans girl for the degenerates to jerk it to! I'll get my revenge.
So, I don't read this comic much. Only bits and pieces posted here.
You guys keep referring to this girl as, "villain," and, "antagonist." I don't understand how she's the bad guy.
>I bet when DoA ends, he's going to think he's a genius
When it ends? He thought he was a genius back during the days of USENET.
He's simply gotten more and more deranged since then
she asked her to stop
she said she was breaking the rules
she impeded her peacefully and instead risked her own safety
THEN came the glue.
unfortunately, carla was even more fucking annoying than before, instead of thinking "well shit, she did this because i was breaking the rules and ruining her studying."
Just got done reading the It's Walky stuff that was posted in the last thread. Fuck me, I actually enjoyed it. I miss the old stuff. Why did Willis have to start pandering to such a shit audience?
Yeah, Carla was being an ass but saying Mary was perfectly in the right is making this way too white and black.
Both sides were assholes However one person started being an ass first. And the other resorted to it only after some time. Closer to a gray vs darker gray situation.
Mary isn't quite in the right. If she were, she wouldn't blackmail Ruth by threatening to report her, she would actually do it, since Ruth shouldn't be the RA. And she'd report Carla for the skating too. But she'd pay for the skates; even if her anger was understandable, that's someone else's property she damaged.
>Mary isn't quite in the right. If she were, she wouldn't blackmail Ruth by threatening to report her, she would actually do it, since Ruth shouldn't be the RA. And she'd report Carla for the skating too.
Willis would portray that as a being a horrible person, of course.
>white male living in the west that wants to play dressup pretend time 24/7
Oh please, this is Willis we're talking about anon. Of course the one with some controversial backstory is going to be the victim here being LGBT is just a quick way of getting it done.
You know on one hand I think Willis really shoehorns shit in his comic. On the other hand I guess I sympathize with trans shit, cuz it's such an all or nothing thing. I just assumed most people would be like "Who gives a shit". But according to some of these threads people are actually kinda uptight about trans people.
It ain't like we're gonna "fix" them. So who cares if they wanna try to be a lady. If they're actually putting in an effort and get the operation then more power to 'em. I ain't gonna get all pissy with them about it.
Because these people are mentally ill. I don't think that the best treatment for any mental condition is to humour their delusions and offer them extensive body modification.
Especially since it doesn't actually help. Nobody sees them as what they want themselves to be. They're seen as freaks and weirdos when they would otherwise be treated like regular depressed individuals.
It should be illegal to draw trannies this cute.
It makes a decent portion of them happy at least. And we haven't created the magic mental healing wand that fixes your brain so that you don't have dysmorphia anymore. It's not a perfect solution but this ain't a perfect world.
I will say I hate this kinda thing though. I hate it when any group does that unless it's actually warrented. Like if someone key scratches "Kill yourself Trannie" into your car then you should either kick their ass or do whatever you can to fuck them over. But if they decide to keep calling you Jeff when you'd rather be called hailey, Tough tits. People are dicks and not everyone's gonna go along with it unless you look super convincing and enter a whole new group of people.
>And we haven't created the magic mental healing wand that fixes your brain so that you don't have dysmorphia anymore
It seems like the majority of even the pro-trans side has no idea what gender dysphoria is. Most seem to think it means that if you want to do girly shit like wear dresses and be treated the way society treats women, which isn't the case at all and just pushes back gender equality by several decades by defining "male" and "female" by their stereotypical gender roles.
I agree. There's a definite difference between "I feel so uncomfortable in my body that I want to mutilate myself or just commit suicide" and "I'm uncomfortable with the social norms of how I'm told to dress and act based on my gender and I choose to defy them"
"And then Mary was a Lord Humongous."
It's the origin of Ground Hawk!
- It'd be easier to make more sophisticated gender reassignment surgeries and hormone treatments than it would be to rewire the brain or anything like that.
- A lot of trans activists know what gender dysphoria is, but are adamant that it isn't a real thing; that it is strictly a societal issue, and that no one would ever experience it if society listened and believed every person sight unseen. (That this fucks over the minority of trans folk that feel it when they switch sexes more than once in their life is A-OK, apparently.) So they undermine the concept a lot, and I think it's safe to say that they'd probably prefer a more passable type of sex change and more societal pressure over mental reassignment.
I would prefer that, too, desu, but only because messing with the brain is way more complicated than cutting up the rest of the body.
>even when it makes logical sense its wrong
>so dont vote for Trump
This makes me want to vote for him even more.
The eagle has already rejected him, anon
Its not that the public at large has any problems with people wanting to be the little girl.
Its when they insist on being treated like the little girl by everybody including the legal system is where people get pissy.
>Trans character thinks they're hot shit and annoys the fuck out of everyone until someone "misgenders" them.
>Completely struck dumb, can't even defend themselves.
>Has to have someone else come to their rescue.
>When that doesn't work, they can't even manage anything other than a glare.
>Implication that the eventual response will involve a physical beating.
The funny thing is, Willis is being more insulting to trans people than Mary is.
Your regular reminder that even his friends think Willis is a broken shitbag of a person.
Here's a logical follow up that won't happen
>Sal finds out what happened
>She punches Mary or threaten to do so
>Amazigirl hears this and gets Sal arrested (assault is a crime, whilst transphohia isn't and Amber has her warped sense of right and wrong where Sal is pure evil and totally not just the tip of the iceberg of Ambers psychotic behaviour)
>Since Sal was a former felon, she has the book thrown at her
>Campus here's that Sal punched Mary because of the Carla comment
>People turn on Amazigirl because they feel Sal was justified
>Amber goes mental because everyone is siding with the person she believes turned her into this (she wasn't)
>Meanwhile, Ruth is fired due to how terrible an RA she is (she STILL hasn't talked to Joyce after all the shit that had happened to her)
>Billie holds this against Becky/Joyce
>More crises of faith for Joyce because Mary is another christian who has done something bad, but does Joyce also have reservations towards trans people?
Instead, Mary will get her comeuppance and Willis will jump through hoops so that everyone is relatively ok.
No, Carla is definitely an unlikable jerk that doesn't deserve any sympathy. It's just that Mary is exactly as much of one if not more, and presenting her as the only sane person who dindu nuffin is fucking retarded, and I'm getting tired of people championing assholes that in anything else they'd hate simply to be contrary.
At this point I'm pretty sure Willis could have an actual murderer in this strip and people would instantly champion for her the moment the strip said she was wrong.
well no surprise everyone in this thing is an asshole and I'll admit I'm not a regular reader
but would I be wrong to assume Mary's the kind of asshole that would just occasionally talk shit when you run into her or just shoot dirty looks and make you feel unwanted while Carla actively seeks you out to be loud and petulant?
>It's just that Mary is exactly as much of one if not more
She asked her to stop
So she used acme brand superglue
Carla continues to be a cunt and target her
So she walks away
When Carla follows, she roasts her
RA steps in not because she's an RA, but because she's Carla's friend
She calls RA out on that and being a shitty RA in general
The only thing she did wrong was acme Carla's skates
Him shitting on kids because of how much he is obsessed with frozen always gets me.
Mind, these comics are pretty obviously good-natured ribbing of a guy's problems by a friend and aren't exactly good examples of how Willis really is.
He is kind of a nut though. Case in point, his tweet to Disney in response to them asking about people's favorite moment in Frozen was about how much he loved the "abusive" parents getting their comeuppance by dying at sea.
Guess I gotta drag this out again
If you have a dick, you're a guy.
If you're a guy who gets GRS, you're still a guy. Just a mutilated one with mental problems.
These are objective facts. Just because a bunch of sociopathic fuckwits in a shitty webcomic think otherwise is irrelevent.
Carla IS a guy.End of story.
Willis has many issues. It's little surprise, honestly, he's found himself lined up with groups that proclaim ever little disagreement, every little mistake, everything "wrong" people ever do as being so morally reprehensible that they deserve no charity, generosity, or consideration.
I can't tell if this comic is attacking willis or they're just friends self-depreciating and it just happens to look like an attack cause it fits so well to how horrible Willis is.
I can, but I grew up in an abusive household and analyzed my parents problems as stemming from coming from abusive households themselves and being stuck in a loveless marriage and came to terms with that. Willis can't or at least won't allow himself that kind of closure because he's made it his life's work to oppose everything his parents did for him and believe in.
He's a shit dude that won't move past his infantile mindset.
Pretty much every time she appeared she was bitchy about something. Either Joyce's choice of friends (as "a fellow Christian"), people having sex or something similar. So much like >>79176094 said, she was a bitch but all she wanted was being left alone.
Besides the "transphobia" shit going on right now, this comic is also an alt universe of a previous one. In that universe, Mary (brunette girl) was both an intolerant fundamentalist asshole and a hypocrite, who got knocked up and had an abortion in defiance of all her principles. Then she kept acting like a stuckup better-than-you Christian.
So that perception of her naturally drains into this comic. But entirely disconnected, the conflict seems more about Mary getting rightfully grumpy at dickgirl for being an annoying jackass.
Opinions aren't objective facts. If you said she was still genetically a guy, that would be an objective fact, as you can measure and test it beyond reasonable doubt.
Her being (socially) male is your opinion because if I ask a random person if that's a girl, assuming she's dressed like one, they would probably say yes. I would get a different answer from her conservative uncle than her liberal uncle. Neither is more right than the other unless one is secretly the king of gender.
It's like if everyone believes the world is flat. They are objectively wrong but if everyone is the same wrong and acts under the assumption that it is flat then the world being flat is a social fact. Reality is heavily subjective.
Mary is just generally a dick that enjoys causing misery to other people. She's basically Mike but without the veneer of ridiculous that dissociates him from reality.
She's not a great evil, but she's definitely one of those people who nobody they know would feel bad if she got punched in the face. I think most of us know something like that.
She's the only logical character I've seen so far. No room for any of this hippie degenerate bullshit and letting them use that as an excuse to get away with their ~ZANY HIJINKS~.
Of course Willis has to draw her practically foaming at the mouth.
I think it had something to do with his mindset back then. Consider: at the time, he was going through his "oh wait, Christianity can be sorta retarded" phase. Among other things, it allowed him to bleed his own conflict into the work, making the characters' conflicts (like Joyce's own struggles with breaking through her fundie upbringing) more realistic and relatable.
With that through, he's not got much to write about. With that personal conflict over with, the only thing left is a blinding hatred of anything related to what his parents taught him, including his parents themselves. If he ever got it in him to accept that they weren't perfect while acknowledging they just wanted to do the best they could with him, maybe it could lead to more interesting stories based off that, but...
It also doesn't help that his early comics centered around sci-fi conflicts like aliens and such. As a more down-to-earth college drama/comedy, this comic must rely on ramped-up everyday issues, like bigotry. Combined with him now making a living off of rabid SJWs... well, welcome to Dumbing of Age.
>Reality is heavily subjective.
But that doesn't mean I have to humor the kind of moron that dresses up like a girl and insists that you too have to treat them as one otherwise their feelings would be hurt.
Its a fucking cartoon, of course it looks like a girl, but the sort of real life situation its trying desperately to portray doesn't quite work that way.
"Gender" and "sex" are interchangeable and the only reason people are trying to make a distinction between the two is to sneak in stupid illogical crap like "a female can be born with a penis".
Its stupid bullshit that doesn't fit into objective reality and theres not a single thing you can do to get me to give heed to this insanity past throwing impotent tantrums.
Yeah, reality might be subjective to a lot of people, but that doesn't mean I have to respect your individual take or conform to it.
This will never happen, of course, because Willis is too much of a mental child to get over his parental issues and come to terms with his upbringing and the fact that people who hold different opinions aren't evil and that not all gays/trannies/non-whites/vagina-havers are good people.
>If I skin an orange, and glue the skin to an apple
It rubs the lotion on its peel.
>I like how he's writing her like a comic book villain ("vagrants"? Really?) even though she's absolutely in the right here.
To Willis, anyone who mentions reality is a comic book villain.
What is your problem? Seriously. Is it because the medium is "full of sjws" is that why? You realize not all transgender women even care or want to be "special snowflakes". So what transgender person killed your parents, because this crusade you have is tiring or old. The fuck is your problem? Even if you have beliefs contrary to what they do, keep it to yourself. You gain nothing by being a fucking ass hat. They aren't affecting you.
Awwww, did someone get triggered that nobody wants to play along with your game of make-believe?
Trannies and SJWs clearly don't want to keep their bullshit to themselves so I won't either.
That is incredibly confrontational and it' not a fact. Gender is a social construct. Even if you do believe it's a fact, it is incredibly dickish and aggressive to be so disrespectful and call them that. If you don't see the problem, then you are a social retard.
If you mention it in the comments you get banned.
But! It's okay for the RA and Amber and the other main characters to hit people.
It's not okay for guys to hit anyone, and in fact doing so will result in someone else hitting them because of it.
>Even if you have beliefs contrary to what they do, keep it to yourself.
"If you disagree with my beliefs, shut the fuck up"? Even if your beliefs weren't directly counterfactual this would be retarded political bullying. "Oh, sure, you can BELIEVE whatever you want, but you can't ACT like it or even SAY it!"
But, as it happens, you're also provably wrong, so really you're identical to a screaming young-Earth creationist trying to close down his opponents.
Oh, and by the way, what he gains for standing up to the truth is that he avoids being a young-Earth creationist.
>Even if you do believe it's a fact, it is incredibly dickish and aggressive to be so disrespectful and call them that. If you don't see the problem, then you are a social retard.
You're arguing about the rights of comic book characters and defending them from disrespect. You are not in a position to call anyone a social retard.
because he IS a retarded manchild. He stalks transformer wiki for dissenting opinions to his entries, he locks down the comment section to what's usually his hug box of sycophants when he thinks the conflict might be too much for him to bare. He can't even handle conflict against his own fictional character whom's fate he can control on a whim. Something in Willis broke you are seeing literally half a man shamble through lfie for all the internet to see
Its not really pandering if you're an SJW yourself. Then its just self-indulgent tripe.
Most of the interesting bits come from his complete incompetence as a writer to properly communicate his points and the fact that a lot of the things he argues for or argues against are more nuanced than what he wants the reader to believe.
I mean, he was raised as a fundamentalist christian who's only other intellectual outlet was Transformers, its no wonder he's as stupid as he is.
>If you disagree with me about my clear falsehoods, you're a social retard
Politicize the right to expression harder, fuckballs. There will never be any backlash from that, so just keep on truckin'.
Wow holy false equivalency.
Let's take a more apt approach to this: Your mom is fat. Not super obese fat but definitely over weight. Do you approach her and say she is ugly despite the fact that she is? No, you loo at your horrendous mom and lovingly keep your mouth shut. Calling her fat makes you an ass hole.
my last visit with her
You were clearly talking about the comic, because talking about the issue in general on 4chan on the internet and resorting to getting butthurt over it is even more socially retarded.
OR, if you really cared about her well-being, you'd tell her she's unhealthy and if she acts like a cunt you call her a fat cow in the hopes of shocking her into a realization that yes, she is a fat cow.
In my house my parents didn't have any problems on calling me out on my bullshit,
regardless of whether it was real or imagined, and I did the same to them.
This obsession with being polite in civil society sort of falls short when you enter into the realm of shit that isn't casual business transactions or being in public with strangers.
>But, as it happens, you're also provably wrong
Nigga what? I don't really care if people call trans people >she on 4chan because honestly I can see where they're coming from with how it's been treated lately by the media as a trendy new fad. However I wanna know what proof you got though, cause there are a bunch of studies backing that gender dysphoria is a condition caused by neurological formation within the womb, and that transitioning for the moment is the best course of treatment for it. It's not like there isn't science backing transgender people, although some of the trans community isn't really helping that image since some of them seem to be very anti-psychology.
If you honestly think going up to someone and calling them he or whatever is okay then you are indeed a social retard. Your as bad as those people who try to "green text" in real life.
>Opinions aren't objective facts.
What I stated were not opinions. It really and truly is a fact that if you have a dick, you are male.
Putting lipstick on a pig doesn't change the fact that it's still a pig
>>Reality is heavily subjective.
I'm getting the idea that you and reality are not on familiar terms
It is though, and if you get offended by it, thats your own damn problem.
I can call out trannies on their bullshit all I want and call black people niggers all I want as well. Is it polite? No. Does that make it "wrong"? Not really.
The world doesn't have to be a safespace hugbox and the sooner mongs like you and the SJW crowd realize this the better off you'll be.
>Post made to show what a hack Willis is
>Every valid point will be disregarded because of all the "eww ladyboys" talk
Anyway, turns out he did draw /co/'s new Christian-fu slightly lewd once.
for me, the problem is the double standards; in most civilized countries you can't just ask for a doctor to cut off your arm, for example. Why can you make a doctor cut your dick? it doesn't make sense no matter how you look at it.
When you fuck off back to tumblr.
I'm not even /pol/, I'm just someone that doesn't believe in this fake social contract bullshit. The SJW crowd is so intent on tearing at the social norms of society at large but doesn't realize that theres not a single damn thing they can do to get people to respect the norms they want to enforce themselves.
It doesn't have to make sense, it's just the best thing they can come up with short of just throwing you on SSRIs and therapy.
Actually I think the latter is promoted over transitioning, but I'm not a doctor so I don't know. In any case, it just goes back to the medical industries concerns with pushing expensive treatments and getting the patient to agree to them to make money over what is best for the patient.
>e.g. fixing their brain chemistry.
It's not chemistry, this isn't depression or anxiety this is a different issue if it was chemistry it'd be easier. It's not this is about the way the hypothalmus develops within the womb and how that effects behavioral patterns, which lead these people to have body dysmorphia.
After you fuck off back to /pol/ you goddamn falseflagger tinfoil hat paranoid consipiraist. They aren't enforcing anything on anyone.
Respect trannies for who they are, if they identify as female then call them female not *male.*
>daily bitching about media pandering to the SJW crowd
>somehow doesn't mean they're influencing waking life
And thats just a /co/ example.
Its not that these people are making a change in and of themselves, its just that other people are conforming to them to snap up their money because most of these SJW types are the kind of tool that "votes with their wallet".
Its not about whats right, its about whats profitable.
>I'd go further and say that it's clear at this point that transition, despite being the best treatment taken in a vacuum, can't be allowed because the social costs of using it are greater than the cost to the effected individuals of not using it.
How so? People getting frustrated and annoyed isn't a greater cost than people killing themselves, so what's the greater cost here?
Who they are is a mentally ill, mutilated individual and there's not a single fucking thing you can do to get me to call an apple an orange just because it desperately wants to be called one and the fact you have no other reason to justify doing so other than "its polite".
Fuck being polite. I'm not supporting your mental illness just because its more comfortable for you.
If someone has their wires crossed and mentally feels a disconnect with their body and simply tries to emulate what they feel they are. I get that you might not believe it. But what alternative would you suggest. Just be miserable all their life and then die?
The hypothalamus is a structure in the brain that affects brain chemistry and thus behavioral patterns, so yes, while it isn't exactly like depression due to science-y particulars I can't name because I'm not a neuroscientist, its still similar.
I'm not saying transitioning and crossdressing is wrong, I'm saying that forcing other people to treat you like a woman is. Thats spreading your delusion to other people, which you have no right or entitlement to. You can play pretend all you want, I just want no part of it.
This is why letting trannies use the gender of the bathroom they "identify" with is discourteous and insane. So what if you're uncomfortable, what about the people who AREN'T batshit insane?
Its trampling one individual's rights in favor of another.
Unisex bathrooms are a decent compromise.
Aren't we all forgetting that these people who you hate so much are probably just a vocal minority?
Granted, I live in a small town in Italy, not really the most progressive country in Europe, but I've never seen anybody battling for trans rights and whatnot.
how dare you, I'm a normie and I've got actual friends in the outernet
nobody is saying anyone should be forced to do anything. It's just rude, wrong, and super socially backwards to try and call someone out on the life they chose. Just fucking be respectful. That's it.
No one cares as long as you don't actively harass someone. They'll judge you, sure, but you're not going to go to jail, so I have no idea why you're bringing up rights.
Regarding bathrooms I couldn't give less of a fuck. If the law says that a tranny can go in the bathroom of their choice then they can do it.
So what do you propose. Burn them? Cuz psychiatry ain't work. And fuckin' with their brain is risky. They just wanna do the thing that makes them happy. And I get if you don't actually believe it's a thing but there's pretty much no advantage to resisting it. It just makes transitioning people feel shittier, makes people who are sensetive to trans issues not like you and like it or not, this sort of thing is gonna become more and more prevalent in the future so if you're ever gonna have a job where you have to work with people you're probably gonna have to swallow your pride unless you'd rather be right than employed.
So, which one would you
join in holy matrimony and go to church with every Sunday?
Did you literally just compare rape to transgender people? You realize how much of a false equivalency this is right? You're not only a shitty person, you're a deplorable one. Congrats, now nobody likes you.
The bathroom thing is kinda weird to me cuz everyone brings it up. Like is that really the big thing? You can't pee near the opposite gender? Is it even like a law? Or is it just social norm.
The chill one who goes to church occasionally and doesn't wear shoes.
$10 say he's going to change it next day
>I would prefer that, too, desu, but only because messing with the brain is way more complicated than cutting up the rest of the body.
The brain is the issue, though. It's literally a matter of your brain not getting the right hormones. Changing your genitals doesn't fix the problem.
People who treat gender as a choice are just re-enforcing inequality and restrictive gender roles.
Let's see. One is a good, cheerful person that would love you, the other is a raging asshole who only seems to get wet by demeaning other people. Seems like a difficult decision, here.
I doubt there's going to be enough trannies to go around for that sort of thing to happen and I doubt the sort of weird, insecure person that is the typical transfag is going to make it in my line of work. I'm not in politics, business, or the entertainment industry, so that sort of shit doesn't fly far. And even in this imaginary scenario, instead of firing a decent employee they bothered to hire in the first place, I'm pretty sure they'd separate the two so they both could have their own safespaces.
>No one cares as long as you don't actively harass someone.
Then we have no issue. I don't have to pretend a man's a woman and we're all happy.
Did we skip part of the conversation? I don't fully understand how we got here.
>Respect trannies for who they are
I do, it's them that can't respect who they are.
>They aren't enforcing anything on anyone.
>if they identify as female then call them female not *male.*
Self-contradiction within one post, nice.
Anyway, how you define yourself is literally the least important factor here. I'll stick to actual reality.
She's conflicted about her parents and probably on the road to being more assertive, but she's still Joyce. If anything, she'd be more inclined to stand up for the people she cares about now.
The bathroom thing is just propaganda against transgender people, saying that men are "transitioning" just to get in the bathroom to see women peeing. Which is an absurd claim. The pain, medication, and lack social acceptance that comes with being transgender is not worth a peep show. Regardless of your beliefs, this is just a stupid claim. No one in their right(or even semi-delusional) mind would go through all that just for access to see a girl pee.
I'm pretty sure a man going in to the women's restroom and peeing falls under "indecent exposure" depending on whether or not someone sees them, otherwise I'm pretty sure there's some trespassing or anti-perversion laws.
You can't piss in public or in front of kids dude.
Its a social norm that got codified into law as lets face it most laws are social norms made EXTRA enforceable, hence the big stink about shit like anti-sodomy laws a couple decades back once fags got declared good people.
Do women not have the right to pee in peace without some creepy dude sneaking into the bathroom to watch or listen to them? One of the strikes against it is how subjective the entire gender argument is and how easily it could be abused.
Raping and transitioning are not even the same fucking thing. Rape is an active conscious crime against some one else. Transitioning is a personal thing that affects no one. Are you that fucking dense? Are you that fucking socially retarded? Fuck back off to /pol/ you piece of shit.
Hermaphrodites exist, in natural birth, in the human population. Chromosome abnormalities can result in people exhibiting qualities of the opposite gender (Klinefelter syndrome). After surgery you have the situation where "if it looks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, it's a duck." Nothing is simple and our perception of things is often more important than the actual objective fact of the matter.
What you are saying is an opinion because you are asserting as fact something which is disputed by at least a portion of the population. That portion has their own arguments and examples as to why you are wrong. In the end it will boil down to 'They feel like having a penis doesn't equate to gender'. Your argument, as far as I can tell, is that you 'feel' like something with a penis is male. You've offered up no facts or arguments otherwise, just more subjective opinions. Asserting that you are right doesn't make you right, being right makes you right. Socially this usually means that the majority is right. If everyone thinks the world is flat then it is flat for most intents and purposes. You have to prove otherwise and even then most people won't believe you. Thats how people work.
Joyce. If it were the biblical end of the world and God were gathering up the sheep and casting the goats into the fire, Joyce would be the one still trying to grab as many goats as she could because she believes there's still good in them and they're worth saving.
You do realize women dont have urinals right? They arent exposed to fucking anyone, they are in stalls you fucking idiot. You wouldn't say that to a mom going into the bathroom with her son. You wouldn't say that to a girl using the men's room because theirs is full. It's a petty argument that doesn't stand.
>It's just that Mary is exactly as much of one if not more
Carla was being inconsiderate.
Mary politely asked her to stop. She refused in a dickish way.
Mary tried to peacefully impede her. Didn't work.
She stuck glue to Carla's skates. Carla became intentionally harassing Mary, insulting her and following her around.
Mary gets pissed and calls Carla a man.
Carla is way more in the wrong here.