/swr/ - Star Wars: Rebels

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Never ever

best girl

less than 150 missions to go until I get that droid

>GoH
>Find myself trying to unlock quick and easy junk units for achievement purposes

So close to getting Vader, I can taste it.

>>79165151
>yfw everyone expects Kylo Ren and Rey to be Jacen and Jaina but they're really Ben and Vestara and we finally get a resolution to their love story in the films

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>>79165188
Oh fuck, thats brilliant

>>79165180
Good luck man, I gave up. Kinda' wish I didn't, but I just don't have the patience, and it's too late for me.

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>Are we streaming the new Rebels episode tonight?

Yes we are!

What better way to revisit Rebels after the holiday but by watching the S2 episodes again?

RIGHT NOW, we're streaming episodes 1-4, 7-9 until the premier of Episode 10: A Princess on Lothal.

>When does the stream start?
RIGHT NOW, IN PROGRESS, ETC. SEE ABOVE

>When will the new episode be streamed?
When it airs at 6 PM PST/ 9PM EST.

>Why are you skipping episodes 5-6?
They are IMO the most boring episodes, and also time reasons, I'd like to end the episodes close to the time of the premier. If I planned this earlier, I would have played everything..

>Where is this stream?
Trust your instincts.

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>>79165243
Reylo is the best

>>79165263
>someone post my pic of triumph
Feels good

>>79165263
I don't even want this stupid droid
but I have to get it
gotta collect them all

>>79165035
Thank you for reminding me! I would have missed it otherwise.

>>79165296

>im sorry i killed my dad
>im sorry i cut up ur face
>wanna make out?
>ok

Directed by Rian Johnson

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>>79165409
I saved the backstory stuff too

>>79165462
>stupid
I wouldn't call it stupid, this droid seems pretty damn cool to me.

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>>79165035
Oh boy I can't wait for more filler.

>>79165236
He's not that good. He would be good but its impossible to 7 star him.

>>79165559
>Leia
>Filler

>Episode 8 delayed 7 months
>being rewritten so filming is delayed
Really starting to worry about their choice of directors and writers without J.J. and Kasdan.

>>79165667
They don't know what the fuck they're doing. They're trying to turn this into another Marvel.

>>79165667
>J.J. and Kasdan

Their rewriting so they can get rid of those two brought to the table.

>>79165263
Never could get that game to work in Bluestacks. Just a solid black screen without even showing any logos or downloading the essential game assets not in the initial installation.

I'd play it on my kindle but the dumbass thing refuses to properly save it to the SD card meaning it just takes up way too much space on the device.

The pastebin link in the OP says TCW is being uploaded to mega. Any idea when that will be done? The torrent is downloading really slow for me

>>79165714
Except they were never involved with 8's story

>>79165697
No kidding. The implication that the original script for Episode 8 was going to be more about a pair of new characters instead of Rey, Finn, Poe, and Kylo Ren and they're only now refocusing on those TFA characters is troubling to say the least. That's not how you do a trilogy, that's for sure

>>79165667
It's for the best, as Rogue One would have been out-hyped.

>>79165697
>>79165714
>>79165793
LaughingPablo.gif

>>79165667
The explanation I've heard for why makes some sense. They want to focus on the characters already introduced rather than any new ones. Unfortunately whatever else TFA did for Star Wars, it really didn't do much to establish the new mains. At least Poe is getting a comic series about his past (and at least he's still alive to have a future, given he originally died in TFA's script). Rey's backstory is almost completely non-existent to the fact that they're still playing coy with her last name. Finn, well, more of a blank slate given he was a cookie cutter soldier of the Not!Empire who managed to break his "programming".

>>79165824

Is Pablo involved in the movies? Or can these directors do whatever the hell they want?

>>79165779
I think he meant undo the "damage" they made of the story in TFA?

>>79165851
So you're saying Finn is a black Rex?

>>79165873
He's only involved when they ask him if what they want to do will fit into the canon.

>>79165873
He was poking fun at people worried about the writing. It's a small part of the reasons why it was moved. Also Avatar 2 comes out two weeks later.

>>79165873
They all come together for the sake of brand consistency. Filoni even sat in on some of their story sessions (and stole, whoops, I mean borrowed some concept art that just happened to get misplaced under his cowboy hat).

And we've had at least some tweets from Pablo explaining (or rather hand waving) some of the movies issues.

>>79165880
More like Black Fives.

>>79165035
shit looking sabers desu

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>>79165824
>>79165793
>>79165697
>>79165667

The film delayed so they can edit the script is the best case outcome, the alternative is them rushing to production with an undercooked script, and having to chop up the film in the editing room or do reshoots.

>>79165880
No? At least not to the extent that anyone (that we know about) helped him become a real boy instead of just another child soldier. His backstory is more about not wanting to fight, at least for the side he was born to serve, and then falling in love at first sight.

Up to the individual to decide if that was at first sight of Poe or Rey.

>>79165938
>(and stole, whoops, I mean borrowed some concept art that just happened to get misplaced under his cowboy hat).
They weren't going to use it so he asked if he could re-purpose it for Rebels. Not quite the same thing as you said.

>battlefront 3 prototype leaked
>new episode today
feels good man

So how long until we get more Vader?

Only reason I'm watching at this point.

>>79165921
I will eat my hat if Avatar 2 actually comes out then. Or ever for that matter. There's no traction on that bejnv made at all aside from Cameron's assertion that he's written the scripts for 5 Avatar sequels.

>>79165962
What IS a bit odd is sure JJ and Kasden had to take over script writing after the original guy was removed from the project (or left?) but I wonder why they didn't remain on the same page.

Also a bit curious given JJ's friend, who had a part in the movie, is on record saying JJ read the script for VIII and supposedly fell in love so hard he's kicking himself for not directing the next movie.

>>79166018

Cameron has done stranger things. He really does have the money to start it whenever he wants.

The real test will be to see what Zoe Saldana's schedule is like.

>>79165992
And who told you that story? Oh, that's right, Filoni did.

And this is why you fail, young pad-anon. Turn in your braid.

>>79166018
Yeah, but it's still good to have a movie dominate the Christmas month that much. The original date was just there because 7 was supposed to be out in May 2015 as well.

>>79166059
"Don't worry, we'll just CG around her."

>>79165873
Pablo is part of the Lucasfilm Story Group, which oversee all Canon media, including the movies, to make sure it all fits.

Kathleen Kennedy and JJ are in charge of the general story, they and the directors have as much freedom as they need, UNLESS something contradicts Canon. Kathleen pretty much hired the LSG to make sure they don't fuck up. They're her nerdy safety net.

>>79166005
Season finale most likely

>>79165874
But Rian would've known the story since about when filming for TFA started.

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>>79166034
>What IS a bit odd is sure JJ and Kasden had to take over script writing after the original guy was removed from the project (or left?) but I wonder why they didn't remain on the same page.

Michael Arndt was adapting George Lucas's story.

Fin was Sam, the son of Han & Leia, a junker who crashes onto Jakku, meets, Kira (Rey), etc etc.

They were gonna fight the Jedi Killer, a star-eating sith who killed young Jedi and was looking for the secret Jedi training school.

JJ changed Sam into a deserting storm trooper and added John Doe (Poe Dameron)

>>79165243
>ben and vestara

As much as I want that resolution, and for Vestara to go out on a better note than "shot in the leg by her very own clone," that seems far-fetched.

>>79166018
Cameron's dumped too much time and money into the Avatar sequels to not release them, but I do think Avatar will move out of that spot.

But imagine if it doesn't

>>79166146
>>79165874
>>79165779
>>79165714
>>79165667

The basic outline for 7,8, and 9 has been around since 2012, before even JJ was onboard.

It's the specifics that are the hard part.

>>79166146
That's why it's odd.

>>79166237
We know it was before JJ, that's the thing. He and Kasden apparently made changes sufficient enough to justify a shift in the rest of the sequels. But why is it only happening now? Why didn't they know ahead of time and already have this worked out?

Interesting questions, and we may never know the real reason.

>>79166105
Well that sucks.

>>79166237
That's because it was George Lucas' outline and they had about a million people go through and make their own additions and changes over the years leading up to the finalized script for TFA. The fact that Episode 8 is just now getting rewrites and was delayed when they were supposed to start filming within the month is odd to say the least. Especially since both Rian and J.J. have talked at length about how they worked together closely to get the story to work for Episode 8 already.

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>>79166341
>But why is it only happening now?

Honestly? Their attention might have been on TFA and Rogue One.

>Why didn't they know ahead of time and already have this worked out?

It might have looked good on paper to expanded the cast even more, only to realize they needed to tighten up the script.

>>79166341
The simplest answer might be the closest one to the truth, which is that they saw how much money TFA made in December and will probably have all future Star Wars movies come out in December. Summer is getting crowded with a new blockbuster coming out every other week.

The only guy talking about the rewrites was Jeff Sneider from The Wrap and he's been wrong about stuff before. He was 95% sure the new Spiderman wouldn't be white.

http://comicbook.com/2015/02/21/rumor-spider-man-likely-wont-be-white-nor-will-he-be-peter-parke/

>>79166441
I wonder if maybe they wanted to see how the audience reacted to TFA before solidifying plans for Episode VIII.

What I mean is they wanted to see exactly how the public felt so they could focus on what people want to see or potentially damage control what didn't work. So far I don't think there is any major damage control. The worst is that it was a bit too much of a rehash of ANH. No clue if the whole Rey "mary sue" thing is a big deal as far as the public is concerned, but I doubt it. That sounds like something we deal with here and probably "the tumblrs". Can't say about the latter, never bothered to go there. Supposedly they have some decent pron at least?

>>79166398
>That's because it was George Lucas' outline and they had about a million people go through and make their own additions and changes over the years leading up to the finalized script for TFA.

The timeline provided suggests JJ was actually making relatively huge changes during production.

Both Maz Kanata and Kylo Ren's design were made relatively close to the movie starting.

>The fact that Episode 8 is just now getting rewrites and was delayed when they were supposed to start filming within the month is odd to say the least. Especially since both Rian and J.J. have talked at length about how they worked together closely to get the story to work for Episode 8 already

The average script for a movie will change by at least a third during shooting.

And for the sake of avoiding hysterics, the rumored rewrites involving cutting down secondary characters and developing main characters, all of which sounds like a good idea.

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Just found an eBay listing of bootleg Star Wars figures from China, these things are hilarious.

>>79166516
Did they managed to beat Avatar's worldwide record? Never really heard the outcome of that. Might as well google it, I guess.

>>79166618
Not worldwide. It could still be Titanic's worldwide and get the #2 spot.

>>79166586

The weirdest part is why they came to the problem of under-utilizing the main characters in the first place. The whole point of TFA was to introduce us to these new characters, why would they shove them to the side in Ep. VIII to focus on entirely different ones?

>>79166655
Yeah

http://www.hitfix.com/news/can-the-force-awakens-beat-avatars-global-box-office-record-the-experts-weigh-in

Looks like it's underperforming in China? Huh.

>>79166586
I definitely don't disagree that it's good that these rewrites are refocusing the story back on the main TFA characters, but I just find it baffling that they needed to make that change to begin with. It makes it sound like the film was going to be practically unrelated and doing its own thing, which makes no sense as part of a trilogy. And gives the impression that they were expecting Finn, Rey, Poe, and Kylo Ren to not be popular enough to keep using.

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>>79166580
>No clue if the whole Rey "mary sue" thing is a big deal as far as the public is concerned, but I doubt it.

The people complaining on news sites are like Return of Kings and Max Landis,nearly everyone else has a glowing love for Rey.

>That sounds like something we deal with here and probably "the tumblrs". Can't say about the latter, never bothered to go there. Supposedly they have some decent pron at least?

Oh there's porn.

anybody have the traitor trooper webm with sound?

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>>79166682
>>79166810

I'm guessing that since Poe was originally not intended to survive, he's been the big change.

The new female character certainly sounds like a pilot and love interest for Finn.

Not that I'm a homophobe or anything, but I hope Poe and Rey becomes a thing for Tumblr's tears.

>>79166580
Quite a lot of people bitch about Rey being a Mary Sue, because well, she is and it doesn't escape notice. I've seen it all over. Also a lot of people hating on Kylo Ren because they didn't get the character and somehow missed how powerful and badass he is despite not being meant to be the second coming of Vader. Anybody who says he's "whiny" falls in this camp of idiots.

>>79166895
I hope Rey and Finn become a thing for 4chan's tears.

>>79166894
>Poe has entered the game grid and immediately signs off due to lack of space battles.jpg

>>79165236
Vader's ironically one of the worse Sith, I think Sheev and Dooku probs outclass him. Maybe Maul, dunno how broken his extra stats on death could be

>>79167021
4chan wouldn't cry. They have a meme for that.

Please don't even get them started.

I loved TFA and all but JJ's directing style leaves a lot of dirty fingerprints and garish workmarks. I lost count of the lens flares after the first sequence, and the editing/sound mix took a noticeable step down. Most people will remember that short film that went viral a while ago about the kid making a movie with Star Wars action figures in his backyard, and at the end the kid is revealed as a young JJ Abrams. I feel that portrayal is very close to the truth of what TFA felt like - action figures in a sandbox.

Storywise, I think it did both too much in some areas and not enough in others. On one hand, there's all kinds of stuff that happens offscreen that really should have just been the subject of the movie in the first place. On the other hand, the galactic conflict is virtually identical to the Rebels vs Empire situation with little justification. And I agree with the general consensus of the narrative being way too similar to A New Hope.

These things don't really bother me that much while I'm watching the movie. Honestly my least favorite aspect of TFA is the fact that over 30 years removed from Return of the Jedi and they're STILL flying X-Wings and TIE fighters.

Of course it's easier to pick out little things you didn't like when the rest of the movie was so enjoyable. Poe Dameron immediately cracked my Top 5 favorite characters list, and I never cared more about Luke Skywalker than I did when I saw him unhood himself at the end. But overall I'm glad JJ and Kasdan are taking a hike so that Episode 8 can delve into more original and lore-heavy territory.

>>79165035
Damn, those double ended lightsabers are powerfully retarded. They make Maul's look practical by comparison.

>>79166895
It is obviously Finn and Rey to the end. Neither he nor Poe are gay and the only interaction that Rey even has with Poe is in the book. Rey practically confesses her love to Finn in the book when they find each other on Starkiller.

>>79167062
Funny how you say "they" and not "we'.

I wonder why that is.

>>79166969
I've found that the people who believe Rey is a mary sue are hating because they didn't get the character and missed how the Force has always been pure hax.

But, you know, people are free to believe what they want. The only thing that was annoying about it is how we kept getting into the same arguments about it here for thread after thread.

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>>79165243
>>79166160
post yfw Christie Golden throws away seven books worth of character development so she can go "lol, once a villain always a villain, gotcha nerds!"

>>79167154
It's a /tv/ meme, who would be the primary people to freak out over a white female hooking up with a black male.

So yes it's a "they" thing.

>>79167154
He either means the real shit boards, or has enough sense to realize 4chan doesn't own him.

>>79166894

That makes sense, but it doesn't explain why they also mentioned Rey as well. It's as though they were going to establish her as the main character and end TFA with her, only to have her significance inexplicably drop in the next movie.

>>79165598
How much do stars give you edge-wise? Wanna know if I should spend all my warbux on buffing Luminara or getting the other cards in that set.

>>79167118
they're casting for Finn's love interest though

>>79166819
>nearly everyone else has a glowing love for Rey.
I don't particularly like her, either.

>>79166969
>Quite a lot of people bitch about Rey being a Mary Sue, because well, she is and it doesn't escape notice. I've seen it all over.

But none of it is legit to the producers, it's minuscule fan gripe.

so... is the new ep on yet?

>>79167189
And then she killed Ventress and made Quinlan Vos an emo edgelord again. Is she trying to become Karen Traviss?

Where is the download for today's episode?

I'm able to watch the new Rebels episode on a cable app already. Heads up for anyone who cares.

These generals are the worst? You all can't even provide a link to the new episode? Hasn't it been out for hours already?

>>79167407
you cant always get what you waaaant!
you cant always get whaaaat you waaaant

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>>79167189

>>79167407
No, it hasn't. Still roughly a half hour left to go

>>79167407
It hasnt even aired on TV yet.
Be patient for your hero.

>>79167407
you must be patient, the anon will deliver he always has

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>>79167339
>I don't particularly like her, either.

You're in like less than 5% of the audience that matters.

>>79167289
I don't know about on higher levels/tiers. But in the 50's, equipment tiers give a LOT more than extra stars.

>>79167407
You're a fool.

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>>79165035
How do you guys think will Rogue One deal with " A lot of Bothan's died to get this information". Personally i would prefer if they make 20 Bothan's with practical effects and put them all together in ship, then have a imperial ship blow them all up in the middle of the movie, that way we can concentrate with the main crew instead of those ugly wolf like aliens.

>>79167100
>I lost count of the lens flares after the first sequence
I honestly don't remember any JJ lens flares and I saw them all over star trek.

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>>79167610
>A lot of Bothan's died to get this information
That's for the second Death Star you illiterate memeing fuck

>>79167582
Nope. She's really not that well liked or popular. Get your head out of tumblr's ass.

Any link for a stream? Thanks!

>>79167610
Rogue One is about Death Star I.

Many Bothans died re: Death Star II.

>>79167582
Well, I'll like her more in the next movie if she gets skill-relatedly humbled.

>>79167373
Do you not know how to use time zone converters?

There gonna be a stream tonight?

My brother decided he wants the comfy TV room to watch Rachel Maddow and sleep tonight.

>>79167610
Is this bait, or are you genuinely confusing ANH and RotJ?

>>79167387
not enough mandoshit awkwardly shoehorned in

>>79167610
Lets play how to spot a casual.

>>79167693
>>79167672
see: >>79165266

New episode in 30 minutes

>>79167207
Let's be honest...it owns us all.

And they're all kind of shit boards. Some just smell more like others.

>>79167629
They aren't nearly as bad in TFA as they are in Trek, but they're there.

Last time I saw the movie I tried counting them and gave up. They're all over that first sequence of the village massacre, I can tell you that much. Then there's a shitload while SKB is firing its weapon.

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>>79167664
>Nope. She's really not that well liked or popular. Get your head out of tumblr's ass.

Get your head out of the 4chan echo chamber.

cAnon, when you make the next version of the canon guide, would you consider switching the order of the "adult" novels from release to timeline?

>>79168058
Yeah, sounds good. Release is unimportant, and it would be baffling to anybody without prior info on the release of the books.

>>79166202
>But imagine if it doesn't
I seriously do not think Avatar 2 could ever stand a chance against Star Wars in the current environment

>>79168034
The hivemind is a myth. Else 4chan wouldn't spend most of it's time bickering with itself.

>>79168034
>4chan
>echo chamber
Pick one you fucking newfag.

>>79167113
it's like the double for casuals, ez mode

>>79168034
Not getting it from 4chan m8. Vast majority of normies think she's shit and almost ruins the film.

>>79168323

No, not really. The reaction to Landis should be indication enough how wrong you are.

>>79168323
>okay girl protagonist almost ruins film
>not the fuck-off big third death star that gets promptly blown up cause we need to have the death star blow up, right?

why are normies so terrible

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>>79165035
Why are Zeb and Sabine not given much to do?

>>79168446
poor planning

>>79167315
She clearly is Luke's daughter then. You know, Han stealing the girl back when Leia wasn't his sister and all.

>>79168431
Oh no, they hate that too.

>>79168446

Zeb has gotten more focus episodes than Hera.

>>79168446
They are busy jobbing.

>>79168446
Because they seem unable to decide what they even want Zeb to be as a character and Sabine only exists because of Disney meddling so they give her as little screen time as possible.

>Ezra has the power to connect
>Ezra's extra special power is that he makes people want to fuck him

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>>79168301
>>4chan
>>echo chamber
>Pick one you fucking newfag.

4chan is one of the biggest echo chambers on the internet.

People can convince themselves the craziest shit is real from listening to people here.

>>79168543
>The main character gets a lot of merch

I'm shocked. Next thing you'll tell me is that there were a lot of Luke figures in the 80s.

>>79168543
>wanting figures of a main character means you're an SJW
Literally what.

>>79168679
Leia is a little thirsty for him in the new episode.

>>79168543
See, people actually have to buy that shit, so when it all becomes peg warmers, Hasbro will realize they were right to begin with and go back to focusing on characters that appeal to boys. Appeasing SJW's is a dumb business decision and girls still don't care about Star Wars, no matter how hard Disney and that feminazi retard Kathleen Kennedy try to pretend otherwise.

>>79168323

Seriously dude, the people making noise about Rey are in the minority by far.

It's like 95 to 5 in favor of Rey.

>>79168694
>>79168705
don't give them their (You)s goddamnit, that's all they're here for.

>>79168543
The Rey toys were always coming. Also

>swapped Rey out for Darth Vader

yeah, no. for Finn.

I wonder if one of the reasons Kanan is dealing with those weird masked Jedi is he is getting his "test" to become a full Knight.

who here /comfy/?
>have oreos and cold milk
>doggo
>in my comfy pants under comfy blankets
>just had a pre-show fap

Did it start already?

>>79168705
Hell she's the only TFA character I bought figures for, but that was just the Lego version and the 3.5. I was reasonably pleased with how she was handled in the movie, though it's a tad annoying how they are handling her backstory - or lack of backstory.

>>79168834
Star Wars is literally Comfy: The Universe.

>literal boundaries between good and bad
>simple archetypes

You just sit back and relax.

FUCKING DISNEY JUST INTERUPTED THE SHOW WITH AN ADD

>>79168834
>first of two winter storms passing through the area
>first actual snow of the winter

>>79168943
No ads on the stream.

>>79168866
>I was reasonably pleased with how she was handled in the movie
Were you really?

I don't mean to meme when I say that she was a "Mary Sue", but she was.
She didn't have a flaw the entire movie.

Her mistake with the door controls actually saved Han.

Her rejection of the lightsaber actually let her help destroy Star Killer Base.

It was fine with her being 10X the most powerful Force user we've seen, but her never failing and Han loving her was too much

>>79168980
I'm watching it on the official website

what a giant sack of shit

Hah! They put a boot on her ride.

>>79168834
>just ate dinner after getting some shit done today
>have the night all to myself
>got my blankets and drinks ready for my space cartoons

we /comfy/ now

GIANT LOBSTER

>>79168034
>>79168693
You should get a trip.

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>>79168997
>I don't mean to meme when I say that she was a "Mary Sue", but she was.

She wasn't.

>She didn't have a flaw the entire movie.

Constantly wanted to go back to Jakku. Fled Maz Kanata's offer and get herself KO'd by Kylo Ren.

>Her mistake with the door controls actually saved Han.

Still a mistake, didn't explicitly save Han.

>Her rejection of the lightsaber actually let her help destroy Star Killer Base.

It did not. Her being captured was a massive problem.

>It was fine with her being 10X the most powerful Force user we've seen, but her never failing and Han loving her was too much

She was basically young Luke, a person Han had warmed up to.

>>79168997
>She didn't have a flaw the entire movie.

Didn't know her way around a gun, was obsessed with going back to Jakku, and refused to admit that whoever left her there wasn't coming back. Han would've been fine without her unleashing the rathtar on everybody and potentially getting Finn killed, and in general her approach to mechanical is to brute force it (which works with junk like the MF, but her aptitude with mechanics is clearly based around what you can find scavenging).

Choppin time

>>79169011
>What is Adblock

>>79168997
>She didn't have a flaw the entire movie.

Is denial a flaw.

>>79169174
not working on this site

>he said to make it look good

>>79169120
>>79169126
>this tumblr autism
She is a Mary Sue and you're the only ones who refuse to acknowledge the truth.

>>79169174
Some sites stop videos from actually playing if you have an adblock

>>79169250
>she's flawless
>but here's these flaws
>t-tumblr

I see it's about time for /tv/ to shit up these threads.

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Heh

i beseech thee with links for thine new ep

Fucking hell, Ezra. Just go right for the face.

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Just finished watching Season 1 to discuss the Series with you all. So far is a pretty good childrens cartoon honestly. The characters are funny and the plot good. I don't understand why some of you criticize it. Its good for what it is but if you want a serious plot for each episode then you are asking too much, this is a kids show after all, i'am not old so i can see why some Manchildren can get trigger with this show.

oh neat: AT-ATs can stand up on their own

>>79169285
Denial to the Call to Adventure isn't a flaw.
It's subservience to the Heroic Cycle.

Rey didn't do anything "Wrong" in the movie.

Every choice she made was beneficial.

Argue that, tumblrkin.
Did any of her decisions harm the movie?

>>79169524
Releasing those monsters was pretty dumb. As was running off and getting herself captured.

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MOTHERFUCKING

ANOTHER TIME, EPISODE CUT OUT FOR MICKEY MOUSE SHORTS

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>>79169524
>Denial to the Call to Adventure isn't a flaw.
>It's subservience to the Heroic Cycle.
>Rey didn't do anything "Wrong" in the movie.
>Every choice she made was beneficial.
>Argue that, tumblrkin.

Getting KO'd by Kylo Ren in the woods after fleeing Maz Kanata directly lead to Han Solo reuniting with Leia, and his decision to take the Falcon to Starkillerbase where he tried to reason with his son.

>Did any of her decisions harm the movie?

Rey killed Han.

7/10 episode

>Aldeeran had no weapons because they gave them all away to the rebels

>>79169642
And it makes sense

>>79169463

I think it's because some compare it to The Clone Wars series, which pushed a lot of boundaries in terms of content and violence.

Rebels plays it safe, probably due to some mandate by Disney, but it's still entertaining and spins a good yarn with Star Wars lore.

>>79169630
I like seeing the Rebellion get stronger with this show.

I hope we see other cells

>>79169626
But Star Killer Base had to be destroyed, regardless of Rey being captured.

Her emotional capture was moot.

>>79169594

work on that autism.

>>79169642
Great, more propaganda from the bleeding Senate

>>79168757
I havent met a single person that really liked her. Either they straight up think she was a detriment to the movie, or they just thought she was bland.

do you retards really need violence?

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>>79169692
I'm discussing cartoon with a bunch of neckbeards

The autism is non-negotiable

>>79169524
>Denial to the Call to Adventure isn't a flaw.
>It's subservience to the Heroic Cycle.
But it's a big thing that separates her from Luke and literally every bad thing that happens to the cast in the movie comes from her trying to go back to Jakku

>>79168980
I had some adds during it. Ze adblock does nuhzink. Bit annoying. If some people have better adblock, hell, guess I need to upgrade.

>>79169126
>>79169120
These...aren't really very much of character flaws. Luke and Anakin were whiny bitches who constantly needed help. In comparison, Rey is completely self sufficient with hardly any flaws. Being sad about family leaving isn't a flaw. There was literally one fucking moment of her hesitating in the hero's journey and it didn't even matter because Kylo showed up two seconds later and negated it.

>>79169686
>But Star Killer Base had to be destroyed, regardless of Rey being captured.
>Her emotional capture was moot.

Her exact choices lead to Han being in danger, and subsequently killed.

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>>79169730
>But [Denial to the Call to Adventure] is a big thing that separates her from Luke
AHAHAHAHA FAGGOT

whats this crap? gimme my darth maul ep so i can never watch this shit again

>>79169717
>I havent met a single person that really liked her. Either they straight up think she was a detriment to the movie, or they just thought she was bland.

Your anecdotal experiences are in the minority.

>some piece of star wars media actually has Leia looking like a complete qt.

>>79169816
>thinking the important plot is going to happen so soon
Get ready to stick around till the end of the season.

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>>79169692
you shouldn't call people mentally handicapped online, its offensive and your the only one who looked like a retard afterwards

I liked this episode. The only thing I can find worth criticizing was Leia's VA's performance. It was eh

>>79169626
She didn't really kill Han. Ren would have found a way to confront Han at some point because muh dark side.

>the protector of concord dawn is an imperial cuck

>>79169463
While I don't think it's terrible, it is a bit jarring jumping into this after The Clone Wars. Considering how a lot of people from that show are working on this one, I was kinda hoping Rebels would have found its stride by now, but instead it still feels like it's having identity issues.

Those Mando ships

fucking magnificent

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HERO

>>79169829
As opposed to your anectdotal experiences?

>>79169860
Who is her VA?

>>79169869
Just like TCW I think Rebels is gonna really get into it around the end of season 2

>>79169626
>>79169730
>>79169789
>these mental gymnastics
This is fucking pathetic. She's a Mary Sue, it's objective fact, let's just move past it already and hope they fix it in the rest of the trilogy (not likely with Kathleen Kennedy around though).
>>79169829
Got that wrong, yours are the minority tumblr

>Kevin Mckidd

>>79169895
Thank you reliable HERO.

>>79169869
I think the show is struggling to decide whether it is it's own thing or simply a sequel to The Clone Wars to carry over unfinished story arcs

>>79169788
>These...aren't really very much of character flaws.

She's desperately afraid of being abandoned. She cries about it. She runs away and gets caught.

>Luke and Anakin were whiny bitches who constantly needed help.

Luke is mostly a witness in ANH, its only his piloting skills that really save the day.

9-year-old Anakin Skywalker destroys a Droid Control Ship, killing thousands, and achieves a devastating military victory that saves all of Naboo, by accident.

>In comparison, Rey is completely self sufficient with hardly any flaws.

Hardly any is not an absence. And let's be real, TFA was not a character study for anybody except Kylo.

>Being sad about family leaving isn't a flaw.

Clinging to the past is.

>There was literally one fucking moment of her hesitating in the hero's journey and it didn't even matter because Kylo showed up two seconds later and negated it.

Negated? Her choices lead to Han being killed.

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>>79169858
>you shouldn't call people mentally handicapped online, its offensive

>>79168997
I'm not going to get into the whole Mary Sue argument because it will just devolve into shit flinging, but I'll say that people can like any character they want.
Shit, Kylo Ren was my favorite character in the movie and I bought an assload of his toys, but he was such a piece of shit.

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>>79169869
i cant get over the cgi graphics, they just look so shitty.

i know im just being petty, but count dookus beard set some standards.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bj0kFPpXJV4

New Recon

>>79169867
He's a Mando, they always go on their knees for the strongest person in charge, and right now it's the Empire.

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>>79169895
Thank you based HERO
Have a hungry hungry Nihilus

>>79169789

She didn't tell Han to get on that bridge.

>>79169909
No, most people like Rey. But that's because plebs always like boring characters. Particularly stronk women who have almost no flaws, which is what feminists want for some reason instead of complex, fleshed out characters.

Kylo and Finn were 20x more complex than Rey (not that that's saying much). But they were both relatively liked. Kylo surprisingly isn't full on panned by normies, which I wasn't expecting. He gets his share of hate but I was surprised at how many people seemed to like him in the end.

Maybe it's because it felt more like he put Han Solo out of his misery than murdered him. Glad Harrison Ford can finally wash his hands of all this, since he dislikes it so much.

>>79169861
>She didn't really kill Han.

If we're playing the blame game she shares some blame.

>Ren would have found a way to confront Han at some point because muh dark side.

But he didn't. You're getting into hypotheticals which are meaningless.

>>79169935
i used retard in there to fucktard, fucking retards gawd


oh wait damnit

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>>79169015
>It's a space-boot.

Is Lothal Atlanta?

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I still prefer this than rebels.

Everytime someone starts talking about how great the Clone Wars it's the same god damn thing.

>Muh violence
>Muh Darkness

I'm starting to think the Clone Wars fans were mainly just edgelords. I say that as a Clone Wars fan.

>>79169900
>As opposed to your anectdotal experiences?

Polls say otherwise.

>>79170012
andthenyouwilldie

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>>79170012
>liking TFU
What the fuck is wrong with you

>>79169932
Being afraid of being abandoned isn't really a character flaw, and it only serves to hurt others in that she ran away that one time. But Kylo probably would have gone after her anyways even if she hadn't, and likely succeeded.

Her getting KO'd was completely turned around when she managed to beat Kylo at his own game despite no training. Her flaws are already incredibly weak, but the few she displays are reversed to a crazy extent by all the things she can do.

I don't hate Rey, but there's a reason a lot of people are gunning for her to nearly go dark side. She needs a real struggle to be an interesting character.

Rip when?

>>79170012
That game was great. Pretty much anything is better than Rebels though.

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Over 100 people watched the stream today, thanks everyone!

It's great to have Rebels back. Join me again next week for the next episode: The Protector of Concord Dawn.

>>79169836
And she's totally in character this episode too. And we get yet another qt Imperial husband.

>>79170051
Thanks for a great stream.

>>79170040
>fear of abandonment isn't a character flaw
lolwut

>>79168997
>Were you really?
Yep.
>It was fine with her being 10X the most powerful Force user we've seen, but her never failing and Han loving her was too much
She really wasn't 10X the most powerful Force user in the least. After she acquires the saber at the end (it's not like the saber that was calling to her wasn't going to not choose her; how does a saber do that? Through the Force like everything else) her stance was half-hearted at best. Then we see her running like hell until cornered. It was only when Kylo Ren mentions showing her the ways of The Force that she mouths the words back at him. Then she closes her eyes like Maz told her to do and let the Force be her guide. It was her "Use the Force" Obi-Wan style moment. Afterward her attacks were hardly the most skillful we've ever seen. It was raw Force only. She predicted attacks and countered when she could. Given Kylo Ren was wounded and a conflicted mess after killing his dad he wasn't exactly the most challenging foe. He still requires training and he wasn't at his best.

As for Han's reaction to her, not sure why that would bother anyone. Han in this movie is a much kinder version. He doesn't snark at people too badly, and even took Finn a bit under his wing. He comes off as a fatherly figure to them both, but certainly more so to Rey. That's a major theme in the movie. Han is a wounded father. Was Rey a surrogate? Maybe. Or maybe he even knows who she really is, which is something they were very coy about. Especially when Maz asks who Rey is and they cut away. There is a very strong implication that there is more going on than the audience knows. Or maybe not. We'll find out next film, and if we don't that'll be some major bullshit.

Can I understand your view? Sure. I don't agree with it but I can understand people not liking her. We each have a different certain point of view on her. I just didn't see anything majorly movie breaking with her.

>>79169954
That beard looks like shit man.

>>79170002
>Is Lothal Atlanta?
No, it's Detroit.

>>79170082
It isn't.

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>>79169909
>She's a Mary Sue, it's objective fact

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>>79169968
aww yeah!

>>79170088
Plus Han's reaction to her at least makes sense given he was going to die. Him offering her a job and mentioning he appreciates someone who appreciates the Falcon is a stealth passing of the guard. A nod that he wouldn't mind her using it now he's gone

>>79169992
Ask any normal person if Rey led to Han being killed. They'll say no. Her flaws and the consequences of her actions are not focused on as if they are her fault or a problem in the least.

>>79170012
What I disliked the most about The Force unleashed is that Sheev was going to execute Bail Organa and Mon Mothma but they escape. Despite that, Leia is still allowed to run diplomatic missions from Alderaan for a few years after these events and Sheev doesn't bother to get rid of the Senate for a few years after as well

>>79170013
>>Muh violence
>>Muh Darkness
it gave us so much insight into the world sheev built, we always see so much of the jedi in the movies.

but TCW showed us ventress, greivous, hell they brought darth maul back with a brother.
TCW gave us an entire world of sith, show me another single star wars venture with that much sith in it.

>>79170112
That's Concord Dawn I thought.

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>>79169968
There he is

>>79170112
Its not called the Protector of Mandalore senpai

>>79170082
It isn't. It's a normal human emotion. Emotions aren't inherently flaws.

>>79170108
Then what would you call it? A trait? A trait that happens to negatively affect someone and the people around them at inopportune times? Kind of, kind of like...a flaw?

>>79170067
>And we get yet another qt Imperial husband
That's Yogar Lyste, he's been around a while and has been in episodes before. He' now just in charge of Lothal, which is a death sentence.

>>79170112
That's not Mandalore.

>>79169973
This.

It's actually pretty disgusting how many fanboys these worthless thugs get. They immediately bend over for the biggest bully on the playground and as soon as the Republic gets it's shit together they get their ass beat. They suck.

>>79170019
You have betrayed yo masta!

>>79170051
It's good to be back into the routine.

>>79169981
>plebs
>normies

Are you a patrician abnormie?

>>79170116
Obviously Han feels a connection with her because she's likely connected to or related to Luke. I thought this was obvious. Same with Kylo, who clearly knew her at some point. I wouldn't count their loving her as a Mary Sue trait so much as a product of plot convenience and hinting at her past.

Still think she's too close to a Mary Sue for comfort, though. Just not in that aspect.

>>79169954
I honestly wish they'd put more money into the show just to improve the CGI. It's not horrible but damn, every time I see something from TCW I wish Rebels had a bit more style to it.

>>79170034
its a pretty good game actually, TFU 2 is the shit that you are talking about

episode download?

>>79170127
This. The narrative has to acknowledge a flaw for it to really be a flaw. Rey was the golden girl the whole time with a sympathetic fear of abandonment.

>>79170157
>Alright, this latte is going straight into your eyes if you as me another question.

>>79170242
It's apparently coming

>>79170242
Read the thread before posting this shit

stop fucking calling palatine fucking sheev Internet your abusing the fuck out of it no one ever called him that before and we have only heard it once in star wars canon so fuck off you're really grinding my gears

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>>79170277

>>79170224
Depends. Sometimes I align with pleb tastes and other times I just can't. Loving Rey is one of those times.

Ripbroooo

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>>79170040
>Being afraid of being abandoned isn't really a character flaw,

Except it is. Your mental gymanistics won't save you.

>and it only serves to hurt others in that she ran away that one time.

It only had to happen once.

>But Kylo probably would have gone after her anyways even if she hadn't, and likely succeeded.

You're arguing a hypothetical, which is meaningless. What if Han & Chewie stopped by earth and smoked weed? What is Finn shit on the floor? What if Poe kissed Kylo full on the mouth?

>Her getting KO'd was completely turned around when she managed to beat Kylo at his own game despite no training. Her flaws are already incredibly weak, but the few she displays are reversed to a crazy extent by all the things she can do.

She uses the Force. She literally used the Force. She learned the mind trick from Kylo's weakass mindprobe.

>I don't hate Rey, but there's a reason a lot of people are gunning for her to nearly go dark side. She needs a real struggle to be an interesting character.

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>>79170277
He's a person and his name is Sheev.

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I just watched the Mortis episodes for the first time.
What the fuck did I just see

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>>79170277
r u peeved anon

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>>79170277
Let the hate flow through you

>>79170112
>my birthday
Thanks Filoni

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>>79170277
>Stop using his canon name!

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>>79170277
Chancellor Sheev Palpatine

>>79170112
Looks like someone shot the thing with a prototype Death Star Laser and it didn't completely destroy the planet, which makes sense, in about four years the Death Star will be full operational.

>>79170127
>>79170260
These. If it's a technicality that you have to do a thread's worth of mental gymnastics to call a flaw, then it isn't one. Pretty simple.

i really hope rey is no way connected to any current character.

im hoping sheev left a massive power vacuum in the force from killing most of the jedi and then him self getting canned.

so force users are popping up every where, new born babies, adults, children and the old are getting random force powers.

The Force Awakens

>>79170317
Non-canon.

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>>79170127
>Ask any normal person if Rey led to Han being killed. They'll say no. Her flaws and the consequences of her actions are not focused on as if they are her fault or a problem in the least.

But normies are plebs with bad opinions. I know because 4chan told me.

All my friends hated Rey and hate all star wars.

>>79170315
Rey was presented as a victim all along, not a flawed character. Her convenient incredible force power surpasses even Luke and Anakin. She was too strong too quickly. Maybe it would have been better if Kylo had been portrayed as weak in the Force but he wasn't. The opposite, in fact, until the end of the movie.

The reverse mind probe I actually didn't mind. I figure Kylo wasn't used to having someone be able to push back. Her getting that mind trick down on James Bond stormtrooper so fast was going too far.

>>79170387
I really, really, love this helmet.

>>79170345
>prototype Death Star Laser
that would awesome

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>>79170379
I like it!

>>79170387
Does he sound like Schwarzenegger to anyone else?

no one in the canon of star wars ever called him sheev except tarkin and that was only once...in a book.. everyone else calls him palpatine or sidious show the man some respect

>>79170379
>"it's a series about families"
>doesn't think Rey should be related to anyone.

She's going to be related to someone. There's no going around that.

>>79170228
>I thought this was obvious.
It is, which may be why it is misdirection.

Unlikely misdirection but sometimes they do stupid things while trying to be clever. For myself I think they need a new generation of heroic Skywalkers. But maybe those two female roles are Luke's kids? Twin girls? If they ever were, which might be why they had a bigger part, that's likely changing with the rewrite.

>>79170317
Dagobah cave, now in planet version

>>79170361
>These. If it's a technicality that you have to do a thread's worth of mental gymnastics to call a flaw, then it isn't one. Pretty simple.

An unbiased observation of what Rey does in the film is not mental gymanstics.

/co/ntrarian as usual.

>>79169905

Julie Dolan

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>>79170449
Because Tarkin was the only one who could say it and get away with it

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>>79170386
>Non-canon.
people who use that word should be dragged into the street and shot

>>79170461
I'm not 100% on her being related to Luke but her being a former student of his is a given at this point. The novelization all but confirms that Kylo knew her. Mindwipe seems to be pretty much canon too, considering how the novel describes the barrier Kylo runs into when trying to mind probe her.

Did anyone else notice the looks of Kanan and Leia's faces when Ezra beat the shit out of that stormtrooper.

I pretty sure that was foreshadowing for his turn to the darkside.

>>79170051
I noticed the streams dont feature heavy negativity or criticism. Everyone gets along well

>>79168446
Because they are necessary but "static" archetypes.

>>79170449
Who Sheev Palpatine, that loser that was killed by his own Apprentice and his Empire fell apart after about 25+ years instead of lasting over a thousand years? No, I won't respect that piece of shit. Fuck him.

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>>79170277
They call him Sheev because he's a clone of Shev.

>>79170473
Everyone who loves Rey would say she did nothing wrong. The flaw wasn't presented enough as a flaw. You were supposed to feel sorry for her and that's it.

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>>79170277

>>79170523
Yeah, I saw it too, he's starting to let violence and anger get a hold of him.

>>79169968
As much as people complained about Kanan cutting the walker legs, I think they stood up rather well.

Okay bad joke. But yeah definitely made a good showing for themselves. The armor for the upper body is insanely strong, but the legs were always the weak point. From tripping over tow cables to slipping on logs.

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>>79170277
>palatine

Palatine?

>>79170400
>Rey was presented as a victim all along, not a flawed character.

The fuck are you talking about? Finn is baffled why she wants to return to Jakku, and Han is disappointed she won't join him.

Maz pleads with her and is rejected.

When Finn leaves her she is crushed and her vision further propels her to reject her force destiny.

>Her convenient incredible force power surpasses even Luke and Anakin.

It's the fucking Force. It once made a person!

>She was too strong too quickly. Maybe it would have been better if Kylo had been portrayed as weak in the Force but he wasn't. The opposite, in fact, until the end of the movie.

And this is where you're in the realm of opinion.

>>79170473
You can stop shitposting any time now.

This animation makes me want to vomit. I want to like this show but damn.

>>79170542
>Hammerhead corvette
CONFIRMED
UPDATE THE WOOK

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>>79170542
Mmmmm yessssss....

any links?

>>79170611
Kylo stopping a blaster laser in mid air was supposed to be a display of weakness, then? What do you think was the point of that scene, if not to establish his power?

Still not seeing anything that suggests she wasn't presented as a victim to feel sorry for.

>>79170615
i just want to see some sith lore

>>79170379
So Legend of Korra?

>>79170551
9/10 anon, this never crossed my mind before

>>79170557
>Everyone who loves Rey would say she did nothing wrong.

I love Rey and she did some things wrong.

>The flaw wasn't presented enough as a flaw. You were supposed to feel sorry for her and that's it.

That's your opinion.

>>79167603
Good to know. Currently got most of my team on tier 4 equipment wise.

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People will assume that new characters is referring to Rey, Finn, and Poe.

Actually, it is referring to Captain Ithano, Teedo, and TR-8R. They will be the new leads.

>>79170611
That was actually some enjoyable irony. When Finn wants to get the hell out she tries to pull him back, not wanting to see him leave.

Then she does the exact same fucking thing to Maz and resists people telling her almost exactly what she said to Finn, to the extent that Maz sort of rolls her sunken eyes.

Is that an inconsistency? Bad writing? People can say so, but it's very much a human reaction. We're often pretty hypocritical without realizing it, especially once we get emotional.

>>79170611
I've seen everyone in this thread name literally one flaw of Rey's. One. One that's more of an understandable emotion than a flaw at that. Don't you think that's not enough to create a compelling character?

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>>79170614
>You can stop shitposting any time now.

I am a light in the dark.

>>79170542
>Date: 11.11.2014
Was this really decided on that long ago?

>>79170667
mmm more like old republic, a fresh start in a wild new galaxy.

before the jedi hunted down and killed every sith, then sheev turned shit around and murders every jedi he can find.

now... no jedi council no all powerful sith empire. just the new republic, theres no one to govern how they use the force any more.

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I'm no animation expert

would Maya be a typical program to use for this type of show?

>>79170698
Tell that to Kanjiklub.

>>79170689
They really shine at Tier 7

>>79170702
The conclusion is simple. Rey isn't a Mary Sue. She's just boring as fuck.

>>79170731
Yeah, they're probably working on season 4 right now (if there is one)

>>79170711
Awesome

>>79170711
You are, as always, our hero. Thank you for your efforts.

We promise not to spend more than a year after Disney bounty hunters freeze you in carbonite to find you in Jabba's palace and thaw you out.

>>79170750
Yes, Maya is pretty much industry standard for animated shows and films.

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>>79170659
>Kylo stopping a blaster laser in mid air was supposed to be a display of weakness, then? What do you think was the point of that scene, if not to establish his power?

His tirades in Starkilled base showed he was prone to outburts. And Rey was shown to be able to intimidate him in metal battles.

>Still not seeing anything that suggests she wasn't presented as a victim to feel sorry for.

Pay attention to the other characters and how they react to Rey?

Poe is the only Gary Stu in TFA as presented thus far. He didn't have enough screen time to have flaws.

>>79169670

Has anyone actually been directly killed by a lightsaber yet? It seems they go out of their way to avoid it.

>>79165667
>Episode 8 delayed 7 months
>being rewritten so filming is delayed

Honestly, it doesn't look like a filming delay to me. It's that they realized the five months they'd given themselves between Rogue One and Episode VIII were just too short for proper turnaround time in marketing and merchandising. Why? Because they'd have to start marketing for Episode VIII essentially simultaneously with final push for Rogue One and confuse the audience. Factor in a two month theatrical run and you'd be left with barely three months between movies. Disney can do that with Marvel movies, but they have a much, much smaller marketing push than Star Wars. The change in schedule gives added time to the production, yes (and I do think they were cutting that a little close), but it's mostly marketing that's the concern.

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