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Character misrepresentations and pandering

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It saddens that Injustice of all things understand Harley Quinn better than the Suicide Squad movie will ever do.

Because that's what this character needs. Another DUR HUR SO RANDUMB interpretation with zero depth.
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>>79161019
>muh daughter
>muh motherhood
>muh abusive boyfriend
Pandering comes in all shapes and sizes anon.
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>>79161019
So you've seen the movie? You can tell me her personality even though you've never seen it and that you're judging it off trailers? If you want to complain about Harley complain about the current main earth runs shes in because those are terrible.
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>>79161743
I'd rather take a human Harley versus ZOMG VOICES I'M SO RANDOM XD
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>>79161816
tru
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>>79161019
Harley's friendship with Dinah and Ollie was so good but it came and went so fast. I miss those three so much
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>>79161019
>yfw Harley defects during the climax and betrays everyone for Mistah J
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So this is going to be the new 'Man of Murder'...
You faggots are getting desperate.
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>>79161019
>It saddens that Injustice of all things understand Harley Quinn better than the Suicide Squad movie will ever do.

Nice b8. the idiots in this board will eat it.
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>>79161816
that's what she is
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>>79162000
Until she realize that nothing changed and she's better off without him and shipped him off to his universe, and that was the climax of the story. What happened when Harleen meet AltJoker was in the middle of the story
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>>79162145
>I prefer superficial one note stereotype characters

Your taste is shit.
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deadpool had a phase where he was "lel space pirate so ramdom" while Daniel Way was writing him.

Harley is in the same phase, the problem is that deadpool never got a movie at the time Way was writing him, so other writer could give him another personality.

The problem now is that harley is getting a movie where she is "ramdom" and since the movie will be a succes other writers will copy the same personality in the movie and put it in the comic, where she is still "ramdom".

TL;DR harley is fucked forever
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Has Harley gotten her just desserts for Her part to kick injustice off yet? Or should I just continue to ignore it?
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>>79162292
No one prefers it. That's simply all she is. Your waifu is shit. Deal with it.
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>>79162292
cartoon characters can be cartoon characters

it's like trying to give bugs bunny gravitas
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>>79162329
>>79162340
Writers have given Harley some depth and character beyond her Bugs Bunny antics.

I'd rather see stuff that does interesting things with the character. If I want Bugs Harley, I have BTAS.
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>>79162378
name ONE writer that did that well

I've seen it a billion times and it's all bad
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Literally
LITERALLY
only a problem with the Big 2 cape books. Every other form of fiction, every other type of comic, every other type of cape book can handle this shit better. The problem comes from a hamfisted string of creative staffs and a sycophantic fandom.
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>>79162430
Karl Kessel, Paul Dini, Tom Taylor
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>>79162430
Tom Taylor for one.
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>>79162309
No and she never will.
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>>79162512
Does this mean we should jump ship to Valiant?
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>>79162576
>>79162594
>muh poor genocidal maniac
Yeah fuck off
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>>79162751
see
>>79162292
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>>79161816
She's supposed to be fucking insane, why you newfags to Batman books can't understand this simple fucking concept?
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>>79161019
>It saddens that Injustice of all things understand Harley Quinn better than the Suicide Squad movie will ever do.
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>>79162730
Nah. The idea of reading a different line of books because they're easier to talk about seems silly.
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>>79161816
because that's what we got?
bitch do you even tea time
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>>79162000
I actually think the Joker is trying to save her/help in this movie
If only to get his girl back or whatever
Pic related joker on a chinook looking dapper
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>>79162673
Thank you for telling me

And fuck that bitch and everyone who helps her terrorist ass.
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>>79162295
Has she ever been anything but random crazy bitch?
I mean be objective here
Has she really been anything but that over her 20+ years as a character in the cartoons,games, or comics?
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>Harley
>Good character
>Ever
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>>79162815
>>79162770
>>79162751
>>79162905
>Original Harley was comic relief
>She must always be comic relief

Never change Batfags. Always keep beating that dead horse and cry foul when someone touches your poorly written mythos.
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>>79162815
Insane =/= randumb and voices in your head
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>>79163189
Hey I am >>79162770 and I am arguing at your favor (?). I am saying that a more human Harley is better
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>>79162770
>>79163189
More nuanced character =/= somehow ignoring everything bad the character has done
She helped nuke an entire motherfucking city. She deserves the exact same thing Joker got.
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>>79161019

John Barber writing IDW Prowl.

Nick Roche and James Roberts....even Simon Furman does a better job with him.

though Mike Costa fucked his shit up most.
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Batman villain henchmen are for cannon fodder and nothing more.
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>>79161019
I would take Harley that is actually being punished for her crimes rather than one who able to blow up a city and kill millions just after tricking a man to kill his pregnant wife and was able to get away with it.
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>>79163369
And she almost got it when Supes send Lobo after her, but she go away with that becuase she meseed up with Lobo's head (with help of Ollie and Dinah and Superpills) after that Supes didn't care because the whole GLC was after him and then the Magic shit happened then the Gods wanted a piece of the pie and now the villain are loose. And for the most part Harley is out of Supes sight and only is present when Bats and/or his teamates call her
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>>79163189
Isn't this thread about misrepresentations?
If SS Harley is a crazy bitch it really isn't a misinterpretation it's just basing the character on an earlier version.
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>>79162974
She's not random, she's a screwball. Like a psychotic Lucy Ricardo.
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>>79163222
I'm not talking about her shitty dialogues on SS. It'll be pain every time she speaks. But making her a hero with drama, babies and shit when it's absolutely polarizing with everything she is?
If she had a baby she would raise him like her and the Joker fucked up Tim trying to make a kid Joker.
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>>79162905
What book is she reading? I can't make it out.
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You know who else had daughters and sisters?

Metropolis citizens.

Who she nuked.
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>>79165530
That was all just a dream anon, didn't you hear? Anytime Harley does anything that shows how much of a rotten evil fucking monster she is, it's swept under the rug.
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>>79165264
Looks like a cheesy romance novel.

Fucking perfect
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>>79165690
>rectoned
please be lying
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>Mfw no one ever talks about Harley's solo run by Karl Kessel
I can understand why, but it's the best Harley Quinn related thing I've read that shows her in a position that isn't as the Joker's partner for most of the run. Or at least where I'm at with it. Well that and I don't like nuHarley or anything about her, so I might be a biased fuckwit about all of this.
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>>79161743
>leave it to /co/ to try to turn "family" into pandering.
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>>79161019
Man imagine the amount of stories they could do in Main DC if they brought this over...
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>>79166466
I have all 3 trades sitting in my bathroom right now, anon. Whenever some fuckwit tries to tell me that Harley is a bad character, that run is the first thing I tell them to read.
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>>79165690

>Literally a mass murderer of innocent children.
>"Better market her to the teenage girl audience!"
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>>79162815
Harley is only insane when it comes to her relationship with Joker.

The further and longer she is away from the Joker. The more sane and hyper competent she gets.
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>>79166121
Author seems to be Molly O'Keefe, so bang on
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>>79161019
You've seen Suicide Squad already? Is there a post-credits scene?
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>>79162000
Joker's probably gonna reveal how he knew about their daughter and that'll win Harley over.
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Injustice Harley is the worst handling of Harley. She had a direct part in destroying Metropolis but everyone treats her like the victim and that she's the good guy.
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>>79162815
So haven't you actually watched btas
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>>79161816

I dont think she actually hears voices, I took that as her just being a sociopath saying things to mess with people
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>>79166248
>>79169694
Didn't you guys know that DC stands for Damage Control?
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>>79161019

>Implying this is good

I really hope Superman kills her daughter. Harley deserves to suffer for what shes done
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>>79161019

The movie is going to be pandering to pseudo-nerds and girls who discovered Harley Quinn on a wallet at Spencer's. What else did you expect?
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>>79172018
Finally, somebody gets it!
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>>79172301

Everybody who isn't an autist got it
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>>79165530
Right? I mean i get you can enjoy a bad guy for their character, but idolizing her?

Harley is a murderer, a psycho and a thief. And before you go "hurr durr Joker did that to her", that doesn't exclude her from the fact that she committed all those crimes quite willingly for her "puddin'"
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>>79165690
>That was all just a dream anon, didn't you hear?

No.

Cause that didn't happen, nothing anywhere has said it was a dream besides some delusional fags and faggets who hate that they like a mass murderer.
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>>79172018
Yeah this is how I understood it. She wasn't hearing voices, she was just fucking around.
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>These people that changed a character into one that I like more absolutely understand the character that they are only using the name and likeness of

It's okay to admit that Harley is a shit character.
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>>79161977
This
Comic was shit when GA was kill
These three had a special chemestry
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>People constantly arguing over whether Harley should be a maniacal bitch suffering from Stockholm Syndrome or a Deadpool-lite who is strong and her own woman

If Batman can be both Adam West and Christian Bale, why can't Harley be both?
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>>79172432
There will always be people angry about versions of a character they don't like.
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>>79170084
Batman had better treats to deal than her. Also she was sent to prision, just escaped.
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>>79172635
Bale was the worst Batman senpai.
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>>79161019
No, I don't like that version of Harley Quinn. Instead of being a good cartoon character, they make her into a bad soap opera character.
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>>79172635
I don't know, if I had to choose, I think I'd go with the latter.

I'm not sure there's much you can do with the former, before it just gets genuinely unpleasant.
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>>79172992
Yeah, I don't really like the movie Harley either. Although I don't think she's trying to do the accent.
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>>79172756
and not put pack and is one of the top guys in his insurrection for someone who has strong moral compass so strong that it he go against his best friend instead of ruling besides him and telling him when goes to far its real surprising he would let someone who cause the the whole thing to start in the first place to roam free
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