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Nobody asked for this, but I'm doing it anyways
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>>79158410
You monster
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>>79158455
I sold my soul a long time ago for good looks and wisdom. I got gypped
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>>79158410
Thanks, anon. I like the art enough to read it but hate the writing too much to buy it. You're doing good work.
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thanks OP
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>>79158532
No problem. I like the art well enough it's just the writing is terrible
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This art is like a slightly better Squirrel Girl.
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>>79158642
It reminds me more of Batgirl than anything
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>>79158541
If they made this series to cash in on Jessica Jones, shouldn't they have made it more serious?
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>>79158642
>slightly better
At least everything is on-model when it's not filled with chibi outbursts
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>>79158753
I think this is trying to hit the same target audience that Batgirl is. Also this issue is surprisingly not that bad
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This is incredibly boring.
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>>79158780
Isn't Patsy in her 30s? At least Babs is still in college.
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>writing in the endemic new millennial style, with modern slang that'll be dated by next year shoved in at random to be trendy, and shoved words/assumptions into the reader's mouth just so the writers can shit on said assumptions/words openly for their own smug gratification
>buck-toothed black lady who's the main character's boss and effeminate gay man who's her friend shoved in for diversity points, since the star is a white straight(?) girl and that sets off all kinds of progressive alarm bells, and the only thing worse would be a straight white guy
>attractive/skimpy clothing immediately dismissed as "EWW GROSS GET IT AWAY", written in that special way which only a man who's deathly-afraid of offending women and has never touched a tit before in his life can write

This is definitely a modern Marvel comic made by a bunch of tumblrites hired because they work for peanuts, alright. Like the "let's just have Japan animate everything while sending them outlines" era of cartoons, except the result is boring crap rather than a mixed bag of good and bad.

On the bright side, at least someone held Kate Leth down by her filthy unkempt hair and forced her to practice anatomy, until she actually started drawing human faces and bodies which follow basic anatomy with stylization and don't look like complete shit, rather than horrible misshapen meat blobs. At least that's something good this has going for it.
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>Reading a comic written by someone that bragged about sexually molesting their underage sister

Nope.
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>>79158838
Leth isn't the artist bruv.
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>>79158829

That sums up Leth's writing to a T.

I'm not one of those people who'll dump on her personal life being a trainwreck, but her writing is such a bore.

Just an absolute bore.
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>>79158780
Well there's some actual conflict so that makes it significantly better than the first issue.

I like the art, and have nothing wrong with the premise. I even liked some of the jokes in the previous issue and this one.

My issue was that, in classic Leth fashion, there was no conflict or tension or anything. It was just a bunch of characters faffing about and being quirky around each other.
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>>79158829
It is, but at least things are actually happening, which is a step up from Leth's other work
>>79158838
>On the bright side, at least someone held Kate Leth down by her filthy unkempt hair and forced her to practice anatomy, until she actually started drawing human faces and bodies which follow basic anatomy with stylization and don't look like complete shit, rather than horrible misshapen meat blobs. At least that's something good this has going for it.
She's not on art though. That's Brittney Williams
>>79158868
You're mixing Leth up with Lena Dunham
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>>79158871

Well, saw her name and the pallet and made the assumption, my mistake. Just means they relegated her to coloring or some other shit and had an actual artist take over, which is still a huge improvement.
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>>79158838
>attractive/skimpy clothing immediately dismissed as "EWW GROSS GET IT AWAY", written in that special way which only a man who's deathly-afraid of offending women and has never touched a tit before in his life can write

I hate "defending" this book, but If you're refering to this scene >>79158504
I think the gross comment comes from the fact that the armpits on the dress are "stained", by what I assume should be sweat, but looks more like magical sparkling soda.
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>>79158829
I was chatting about this with a friend of mine who's very into progressive comics but isn't into this, and she made the point that Leth tends to substitute references to something suitably nerdy (but not too hard core) for actual humor. Also, cute isn't bad, but it's not a virtue in and of itself, it doesn't carry a plot or characterization.
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>>79158629
Happens to every super-hero who stays on long enough.
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I am not going to read it i will just reply to the page with most replies and say fuck marvel
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>>79158984
>Shitting on things you don't read
People like you are cancer
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>>79158980

>Linda's Burgers

lol

i like this book
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And that's it folks. I'm curious where the "Want to know what happens next?" page went, but none of the Cbrs I pulled had it
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>>79158980
>that tragic looking She Hulk
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>>79159022
>I'm curious where the "Want to know what happens next?" page went
They realized nobody wants to know.
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>>79159002
Wait, I can see why Jen and Patsy would know her since they were Defenders too, but when did Monica fight her?
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>>79159002
America and Chavez are drinking from the same shake.
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>cute book for little girls

Works for that angle, I suppose.
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>>79158629

this should be a webcomic, the artwork is good but too lazy at the same time.

nothing looks impressive
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>>79159002
Already read first issue, i dont expect anything good out of this.

I have been thinking in storytiming the mini of hellcat where she goes to Alaska because i dont want. /co/ to think that this is how hellcat always acted before this run
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>>79158780

so she can't beat some girl fighting with her bag?
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>>79158980
I like that Squirrel Girl.
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>>79159002
>Casiolena
Holy shit, can we get Ollerus too? Fucking hype.
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>>79159261
You mean female on female violence ?
On 2016?
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this second issue is much better than the first.

For better and worse, its main problem is being... boring.
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>>79159230
>/co/ to think that this is how hellcat always acted before this run
No we don't.
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>>79158980
everybody friends! happy times! no conflict! all the colors!
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>>79159400
Still is a good mini
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>>79159002
>You are the cancer
No, that would be this book.
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>>79159002
>America
>not being a giant bitchcunt
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>>79159464
But anon, her being a giant bitchcunt would conflict with "everyone is happy and nothing bad ever happens" setting that Leth revels in.
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>>79159503
>"everyone is happy and nothing bad ever happens"
Unless you're a male.
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How is it that a lifelong woman writes women like a man who's never spoken to a woman?
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I knew this would be uninteresting and full of "my special social problems". Thanks OP. Now I never have pay for an actual issue to confirm my initial assumptions on awful C-list characters
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>>79159549
Oh god if damian hellstorm ever appear Leth could say "men are Literally evil"
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>The only man with more than 5 boxes of dialogue is a bumbling homo-sexual

Can Leth at least make him somewhat competent instead of an indiscreet bimbo?
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>>79159577
Because Kath can't write anything but "super quirky girls that are happy lesbians"
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>>79159655
Nope.
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>>79159230
You could do it anyway
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>>79158980
Since when is Patsy friends with all of these people? Is it just because they're basically tumblr's favorite characters or something? I mean, I love me some Hawkeye and America but I had no clue Patsy even knew these two.
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>>79159877

She was on teams with half of them
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>>79158780
>light superheroics
I'm down. It's obvious that there is an audience for it.
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>>79159941
>>light superheroics

its that how you call lazy action scenes?
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>>79159664
I don't understand what conclusion this photo is trying to make.
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>>79160230
It's implying that she fucked a married man who had cancer and bragged about it.
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"Kamala, have you heard about this new movie, 'Carol'?"
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>>79160351
Top kek anon.

Notice how they're missing from the meeting.
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>>79160253
Wow. Why the fuck is this the first time I've heard of this? Why the fuck is marvel still employing her?
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>>79158980
Now Val, Shulkie, and Monica I get, Patsy's known them for years, but the other three make no sense.
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>>79160607
recent additions.

Most likely, Monica brought America who brought LadyHawk.

Squirrel Girl was probably passing through.
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>>79160411
Because shes so progressive.
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>>79158410
It...wasn't that painful, just bland and inoffensive.
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>>79160652
All of them were in Patsy's phone though so she must have gotten their numbers at some point.
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Issue #1 honestly wasn't that bad. Not really my cup of tea but entirely inoffensive.

Time to read this one!
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>>79159002
>Leth ships America and Kate
how surprising
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>>79159664
I have no words to describe my disgust
I just have no fucking words
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>>79161321
>Gillen confirms that that last scene was just America teasing Kate and Kate is straight
>people still ship them anyways
To what end?
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>>79161348
Man I feel it's inevitable that they get together now. No way does Gillen not know what he was doing either!
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>>79158780
This sequence feels very anime. Anyway this was pretty much like issue #1, IMO there's fuck-all wrong with it as a comic it's just solidly in that same cutesy territory as Batgirl.
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You made me want to kill myself, OP. Thanks.
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Ayy LMAO
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>>79158410
The story makes no sense, why would anyone make this be a thing? Why would ANYONE want this?
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>>79161449
>>79161507
>let's act like this comic is the greatest outrage ever perpetrated in print
>when CIVIL WAR 2 is coming down the pipeline, no less
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>>79161483
>put all your personal shit out there for the entire world to see
>recoil in horror when people talk about all your personal shit you put out there for the entire world to see

This is basically a Dobson comic.
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>>79159012
It took me a sec but ya, nice little nod to one of my favorite ongoing series.
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>>79158642
>slightly
Are you high. This is leaps and bounds beyond that chicken scratch
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>>79158642
The art is much better than Squirrel Girl IMO. I mean you can tell because they actually draw Squirrel Girl in this issue.
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>>79158980
How old actually are Patsy & Monica? I picture them in ther late 20s or early 30s.
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>>79161449
>>79161507

I know Gamergoobers and /Pol/ are already in the thread but I have to say THIS:
Honestly this comic looks pretty great and it's probably gonna be a lot of fun, and isn't that what we want with comic books?
To have fun?
Here are more fun comics by her
comicsalliance.com/author/kateleth/

Read them and remember she is called the female Frank Miller for a reason
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>>79160607
Well she can't call Felicia, what with her being a villain, and who knows where the hell Firestar is.
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>>79161659
I would put Patsy at late 20s/early 30s and Monica mid 30s.
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>>79161720
The comic is not that bad to be honest, it's not amazing but it's not terrible.

It's alright.
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>>79161720
Kate leth pls go
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>>79161720
Oh boy you almost got me.
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>>79161720
>she is called the female Frank Miller

JESUS FUCK
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>>79161720

"Fun" is a meaningless buzzword.
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I like it, it's fun.
Doreen is adorable.
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Kate Leth has a really nice voice. It has a good timbre and her words are clear, clipped and direct. Regardless of anything about her work or personal life I would definitely hire her to voice a commercial selling like, bleach or car seats or some shit.
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>>79161321
it's kind of hilarious how there's a subsection of marvel creators who keep trying to push this (leth, anka, mckelvie, etc) but editorial wants to keep kate straight as the arrows she shoots.
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>>79161720
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>>79158541
>This is what tumblrites think gay men dress like
Nowhere near as terrible as the first issue yet I still loathe this comic
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>>79161321
But doesn't America already have an unnamed girlfriend?
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>>79161720
>every thread
Anon, it's no use trying to false flag to get /co/ to hate Leth more. I don't think it's physically possible for us to hate her any more than we already do.
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>>79158429
Tom? Is that my man Tubs?
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I don't get it, what is this book? Why is it painful?
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>>79162174
Yeah. He's a bearmode guy now.
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>>79162307
Cool. I don't know why /co/ is so butthurt about this being a fluffy comedy book. It's Patsy Walker. She's a romance comic character.
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>>79159002
>people like you are cancer
At least he has a chance to fuck Kate Leth now.
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>>79162425
This is him I think!
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>>79158980
Is this new a costume for Valkyrie?
Looks different than her second one in Fearless Defenders. A lot less blue and black.
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>>79158980
Patsy, Jen, Monica and Valkyrie being friends who hang out like this isn't even new

They all showed up for Emma Frost's birthday party in Heralds
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It's just - eh.

Its not bad, its slightly cringe-worthy, the art is fine but lacks any sense of originality, and theres no tension or sense of conflict or any well developed characters. Ms Marvel manages to be progressive and still be really interesting to read.

There seems to be an audience for this kind of nice, safe, comic, - I'd say its sister comics are Howard the Duck and Squirrel Girl - but its not for me. I think sometimes people want safe representation over actual decent storytelling with interesting ideas. If Vision gets cancelled before this then fuck Marvel.
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>>79162522
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>>79158868
She didn't do that; she fucked a married man who later died of cancer
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>>79161538
Anon, it's about the fact that it exists and it gets treated like it's the next best thing when it does nothing and isn't even that fun or funny to read. Everyone already knows Civil War 2 is shit because we've had experience with the first one.
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>>79161720
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>>79163045
This is fine dude. You have brain problems if you think there is anything wrong, or this comic is unusually not-fun or not-funny, for comics.

I know /co/ really, really, really fucking hates Kate Leth but Hellcat qua Hellcat is really just an inoffensive Batgirl-style thing, or a much better drawn Squirrel Girl.
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>>79161720

Here's a (You).
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>>79163045
>it gets treated like it's the next best thing
I haven't seen anyone treat it like that, not even the CA crew.
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>>79163059

/co/ pretends it's not copy pasta so that they can get mad
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>>79158541
I have to agree. Williams is entirely carrying this book.
Cover is adorable.
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>>79159002
I just want Val to rescue Flash from space so they can have passionate make-up sex and fight Hellstrom or Jack. JUST GET HIM OUT OF SPACE
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>>79163080
It's worse than Batgirl. That, at least, has some level of conflict.
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>>79162049
Then why do you read it?
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get out of here kate
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>>79159909
Yeah. She obviously knows Monica and Jennifer. But how does she know squirrel girl, america, and kate?
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>>79162522
ICEEEEEEEEE
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>>79163287
To bitch about it and make sales go up, of course!
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>>79163610
forgot to mention that she obviously knows Valk.
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>>79158943
>Nobody picked up on this
I'm honestly surprised at you, /co/.
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>>79163832
>Whedon comes back to Marvel.png
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>>79160351
Because that American cow is harassing that lovely Muslim girl?
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>this will sell more and for longer than Prez
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>>79164444
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>>79161720
>remember she is called the female Frank Miller for a reason
because she's cancerous?
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Well, the art is really cute. I'll give it that
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>>79164609
I would a Patsy
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>>79162522
S
ABSOLUTELY
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>>79161483
Why is she stealing from Ronnie
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>>79164668
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>>79164609
Why is this face so extremely lewd
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>>79158504
>TRUE?
I'd wear that croptop
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>>79158618
this is such a great source of reaction images
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>>79158717
SOFT & WET
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>>79158780
>clickety clack, get in the sack
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>>79158955
I wonder if the massive amounts of cash Doreen is getting as a high ranking member of the A.I.M.vengers is gonna get brought up in future
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>>79158980
why does Chavez look like a weary middle-aged mother?
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>>79158980
in a better world, Black Cat would be there too
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>>79159139
you mean America and Kate
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>>79165758
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>>79159002
D'aw, that's one adorable five year old dressed as Squirrel Girl.
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>>79163059
I did wonder what the deal was with those sites
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>>79158980
>>79159002
>>Kate, Squirrel Girl and Chavez
Why would you invite teenagers to your hangouts?!
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>>79158980
>I was in the midst of handling a precarious political situation in the middle east when I got your call. What's the emergency?! You just wanted some burgers? Oh you lovable scamp. You can go down on me later! Also your hair and skin look so great today, you must tell your secrets. I'm glad I get to be your bestest friend. It's truly an honor.
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>>79166052
SG and Chavez are two of the most powerful beings on Earth. Why wouldn't you invite them?
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>that terrible art style
>that girrrrrl power
Make it stop!
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Between this and Marvel Vixens, patsy is growing on me
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>>79158943
How can this comic acknowledge Patty is middle aged and ignore it completely at the same time?
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>>79158980
That is a really cute Squirrel Girl.
And this issue was loads better than the first.
Thanks for sharing.
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>>79166052
I only know America Chavez through memes, what's a good place to actually read her shenanigans?
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>>79166568
There is no good place, because the character itself is pretty shit beyond creamy thighs.
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>>79166052
p. sure SG's in her 20s by now
>>79166568
Read Ultimates, regardless of her presence.
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>>79166991
She's 19 in her book I think.
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>>79158410
wasn't there a panel where avengers are blaming Tony Stark for sleeping with Hellcat and Thor says "I may have"?
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>>79166360
My writing her as incompitent
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Remember the good old days when comics weren't filled with homosexuals and hastags?
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>>79170384
Yes, in that time only fox and sony made superhero movies
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How exactly is writing female superheroes as quirky incompetent millennials "progressive" while the men in comics take care of actual villains and threats to society and the world?
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>>79158642
This what Squirrel Girl is trying to be.
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>>79158980
>>79159002
These two pages are just so boring. I mean, the whole book is boring, but these even more so. It's like, who could possibly get excited about this comic? There's no substance. It's nothing.
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>>79164642
More like batshit insane.
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>>79158642
I don't really understand any of this. "They" want women to be separate but equal to men. So why the cutesy art and cheesy dialogue?
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You told me the writing was bad, anon.

It's not, it's just boring. Which might be worse.
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>>79161321

I figured everyone did.
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>>79158980
Hawkgirl's hair is all one flat blob. Also, the mouths all look like they're painted on and not actual mouths. I think it's because everything is outlined with black lines except the mouths.
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