All talk, no substance. His own animations are topical stuff thats all dated now (fine bros, kony 2012) so the humor is diminished. And Hellbenders is so absurdly non existant for something he and Chris hyped up so much
>>79156577 This. Most of his animations have lost their comedic charm as time has gone on. Maybe it's because I got older, maybe it's because every single faggot on the Internet decided that repeating shit from his cartoons would be funny (STILL fucking happens to this day), maybe it's both... IDK. In all honesty I'd be cool with him except for the fact he is a major asshat. Constantly shits on people for their lack of creative talent, yet almost 75% of the stuff he has produced is complete garbage. Hell, the only reason he seems to have gained and maintained hos popularity was by deep throating his mic and screaming nigger. Even on SleepyCabin he still pulls the same, tired shtick we've seen a million times. If (and it's a very big if) he and Chris ever get a show on TV, I feel it will tank into the ground hard if Zach has his hands in it. Chris>>>>>>>>>>Zach every day of the week.
The 1 thing I will give him is that he proves that even if you're a loud, obnoxious, 6/10 or lower sperg, you can still get a gf by just being yourself.
>>79159059 Then why does he still do the same thing over and over and over again? Whether it be on SleepyCabin, JonTron, or whatever, his humor still seems to revolve around being a loud, obnoxious edge-lord.
>>79159152 It's improv. Take Egoraptor, for example, his cartoons are (were) hilarious but he fucking SUCKS at improv, and grumps is a testament to that. Zach is playing a character for whatever reason who I personally find funny.
I like Zach as a person but none of his animations have made me laugh. He's much better at improv than he is at actually writing something down. Also he usually cries about shows like Family Guy doing something and he's done the exact same thing himself that he's criticizing them of doing. For example shock humour. I don't understand this American shit talking culture where you make yourself to be this above all great content creator and yet you have very little to show for it.
>>79159165 I'd agree with you that moderates and neutrals are morons if this was any other issue, but when it comes to the #Gamergate vs SJW's thing I'd have to say that both sides truly are fucking retarded.
>>79160372 I feel like for all of it's faults Hellbenders never tried to disgust the audience. They're like "shit's fucked up in real life so let's put that in our cartoons" and then sped it up and threw in some unexpected twists for kids with ADD.
>>79161906 Oh yeah, definitely. I thought he must've did something like a video promoting it almost immediately after Edd's death, showing no respect for him or his other friends. It's great that people gave him shit for that, though. Makes you feel better about the people in the animation community.
>>79161973 Well that and his whole attitude just rubs people the wrong way. I used to like him myself but then he made that video where he called out Chris for using homophobic slurs out of nowhere, which started the twitter fight. E-drama is fun, like soap opera on the Internet.
>>79159583 >>79162061 I wish I was in the loop with E-drama. I've never even heard about this and I've listened to every sleepycast. Any details / other drama with these guys? I've heard about the AnimatedJames one already but that's pretty much it
I think it was because of Anita. She said something after some school shooting that really upset Zach, and he said something like "unfollow me if whatever" or some shit, I don't remember it very well. You could probably find it if you search his twitter.
>>79162969 >AnimatedJames has a fart fetish >people found out >he's being an embarrassed bitch about it >Psychicpebbles skype calls him >farts in the mic >"did that make your weiner hard? haha" >AnimatedJames spirals further into depression and uploads a weird drawing to deviantart
Not him, but all you need to do is skim through the video and the article to get an idea of the kind of person James is. He deserves so much more than a little prank done by one of the chillest dudes in the industry right now.
>>79169761 After Edds death, Tom slowly but surely ruined every relationship he had, first by having a nasty breakup with Bings sister, fighting with Bing, calling Chris out on twitter about saying "faggot" and never paying Zach for an animation he did. TLDR, Tom is an asshole and Edd was his only real friend.
>>79169934 >watch a podcast that happened to have Tom on as a guest one day >he just kept shit talking Edd's work and talking about him like a business partner he used to advance himself instead of a friend
I didnt know Tom was such a cunt until then, now I cant even go back and rewatch old Eddsworld videos. He also kept talking about that sex ed for kids video he mad and I swear to christ he was talking about it like it was man kind's greatest achievement and he was the best human to ever live. Fuck Tom.
>>79172136 he first starts talking about Edd at ~ 48:50
just listening for a minute, he says that Eddsworld looks like shit looking back on it and Edd had terrible pacing and made the stuff twice as long as it needed to be
A bit after that he also makes a sort of joke about taking Edd over in subscribers once he got cancer and calls him a "miserable man." They then ask him if he was best friend and he says "uh best friend is kind of strong, matt was his best friend I guess". Then he says "I moved in with him and we were going to become famous but then he died lol"
you'll have to listen to the rest after that cause I cant keep listening to this shit
>>79163187 >>79163094 >>79162991 Actually I think it was over their fight about racism unless they got in two big arguments. I remember reading on Twitter like twenty replies between him, Ukino, and some obnoxious fanboy about microaggressions. Also just found out that Google's autocorrect for microaggressions is "nonaggression".
>>79169088 So... what exactly am I supposed to be seeing here? All I got from that vid was an autistic sperg criticize AnimatedJames for everything he has ever done. yeah, I'll admit that the fart fetish thing is fucking creepy and not my thing, but with James lashing out at his fans, I can see where the negative viewpoints come from.
I feel this vid does a much better job explaining the whoel situation: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T-Hlj7e4Rag
For Zach to act like a major cunt towards James when he his friends with Spazkid and Shadman (FUCKING SHADMAN) is some of the most hypocritical shit I have ever seen and has pretty much solidified my views on how much of a major cunt he is. Zach is a little prick and I guarantee that he wouldn't be nearly as mouthy as he is if it wasn't for his E-celeb status. In fact, a major criticism of James is that he took a bunch of people's money and kinda screwed them over, yet SleepyCabin is on it's last leg. Not to mention how many people are financially supporting Zach, yet he hasn't made shit in years and acts like an entitled fuckboy whenever someone calls him out.
In all honesty, fuck Zach. He's a hypocritical piece of shit and a major douche.
>>79156577 >>79158954 >>79174406 Fucking these. Zach is a little prick and can pretty much say and do anything and all he has to say is that he's psychicpebbles. Not to mention his rabid, meme-spouting fan base will suck his cock and defend him no matter what
>>79156412 Was recently browsing his How to be a Vlogger vid and saw this comment. Feel like it sums up my view perfectly:
How to be a youtube famous animator:
Step 1: Throw random bullshit on the screen to see what sticks. Remember, humor has absolutely jackshit to do with clever writing or timing, just draw "crazy" faces and yell a whole a lot and watch those views pour in.
Step 2: Do not be original. Why establish your own style when you can just copy what chris o'n- I mean everyone else has been doing.
Step 3: Be a total fucking hypocrite. In your " Hilarious" "animations", make sure to mock others relentlessly while simultaneously being a talentless fuckwit cuntlick of human shit yourself.
Step 4: Be a total prick to your fans. Keep in mind to always treat your supporters (the people who create your success by paying attention to your shitty videos) like the most vile of crocodile taint.
Step 5: Only update every 3 centuries. Oh and also make bullshit excuses for why you making mediocre (at best) videos is sooooo hard and why you haven't been doing it recently.
Step 6: Never take criticism into consideration. If anyone attempts to criticize your suicide-inspiring content, just ignore them! They are obviously just jealous of your immense comedic talent. I maw who else could have thought of a pig farting while the camera spins violently and some fucktard (you) breaks your own voicebox into the microphone.
Well there you have it. Remember you half assed Egoraptor clones, animation is a wonderful art form where anything can happen. Make sure to squander your coveted skills on non-memorable internet "comedy".
>>79173050 Chris said 'nigga' on the podcast. Prikle, one of Joe's friends, an animation student best known for 2 shows (a ripoff of eddsworld and a ripoff of hellbenders). She became a SJW stereotype in college and developed a massive victim complex about being asian, and called Chris out. She said she quit working on Hellbenders even though she never worked on it, and when Chris and Zach called her out on taking her grievances public and making a scene she deleted her tweets and claimed "omg, I don't care anymore." I think she got fired from Yotta over it. Anyway, Joe picked her side and Zach was upset.
>>79175567 no, they're both idiots and assholes. i'll side with james simply because he's trying to seek help. zach on the other hand, as it has been shown in previous posts, is a hypocritical, edgy little snot who has a complete lack of self-awareness to realize how much of a bitch he is.
>>79174406 Do you even watch their shit, they've mellowed since becoming popular to avoid drama, all the shit in this thread is stuff they don't want to talk about. You even have to prod Cory for the people he hates now, and he was the most notorious troll on Newgrounds at one stage.
>>79176000 you're acting like /v/ has never sent death threats before >>79176050 Cringe channel was the guy who kept saying 'just fuck already' every time Nicky and Zack harassed eachother on twitter. This was before they were dating.
>>79174406 He wasn't ripping on James for having a fart fetish, he was ripping on James for how he handles his fart fetish and that's hilarious. If you tell Shadman his mole fetish is weird he won't care.
>>79176097 James handled his fart fetish by trying to hide it for years, then coming out publicly after there's too much evidence to deny it. Then, he makes fart comics under his main handle, and still can't deal with the stress, then finally quits animation entirely and is likely on track to become the next Jewario. So, he's clearly not right in the head and doesn't know how to handle the attention. I think he shouldn't be held to the same standard as everyone else.
>>79176268 >It's not like they made an announcement post. Nikki made one, but I don't feel like digging it up. >I wonder if Zach would even feel bad if this happened? Yes, it would destroy him. However he's fairly rational and would realise that there were other factors and that if ultimately James pulled the trigger it'd be his own fault.
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