So what's the deal with the Lion? Did Rose keep it a secret

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Lion is just Rose's car, and Bismuth is the key.
Note the lack of a steering wheel.

>>79152655
Steven is LITERALLY Rose reincarnated.
Are you proposing a scenario in which she somehow split her own essence in two, one being Steven and the other being Lion? That needs explaining.

I think he's a corrupted/mutated version of something. Pink Diamond perhaps.

If he isn't that, and there's no gem hidden in the mane/hair somewhere, then he's some non-gem creature we can't speculate on. Some "elemental" or "spirit" or magical construct or something.

>>79152938
>Are you proposing a scenario in which she somehow split her own essence in two, one being Steven and the other being Lion? That needs explaining.

Actually yes. I have nothing to back it up, just what my intuition of cliches tells me. There's a pink lion that seems to know all of Rose's secrets that Pearl didn't know about because it's as much Rose as Steven is. I think it's dumb too, but might actually be what they go with.

>>79152938
Voldemort did it. Lion is Rose's horcrux

>>79153262

This.

The Lion's a living phylactery made by Rose Quartz at some point for some purpose and she is survived by it, Pearl, and Stephen.

>>79152655
>My cliche-senses tell me this is going to wind up being Rose reincarnated
this is the dumbest idea i've ever heard

>>79152845
>Pearl only thought she was Rose's right hand gem because she got to sit shotgun in the car all the time
>Pearl doesn't realize she only sat shotgun because she was the only one who could fit next to Rose

>>79153664
Amethyst was pretty tiny back then. Look at her fitting snug on Garnet's tummy.

>>79152655
Its Pink Diamond

>>79152845
Bismuth always makes me yearn for the OC male CG versions, The Heavy Metals. Like gems but with metal. Bismuth "Biz", the muscle, black guy with swaggy pimp purple and green, Quicksilver (Mercury) the tech head and agile scout, then Tin or Copper, the leader/soldier/police.

If only I was a drawfag ;_;

>>79152655
My only guess is a familiar formed through the remains of Rose's energy or some magic thing

I do wish that Yellow Diamond makes her own after she sees Lion

Like a wolf, or a giraffe

Bad writing, just like everything else about this show.

>>79154673
I agree on the familiar thing.

>>79152845
>Lion is just Rose's car, and Bismuth is the key.
>tfw Hack Sugar is going rip the plot of the Utena movie the fuck off.

>>79154636
Nah, Bismith is just an edgy fuck

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>>79154636
>tfw the SU crew acknowledged The Heavy Metals and even liked the idea of male equivalent of gems being metals in the form of men but it will never be implemented in the show

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>>79154636
>>79155154
>something like The Metal Men in SU

I like it, but it'll never happen

>>79152655
Lion is a corrupted Pearl. Cap this.

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>>79154058
Amethyst is the same size. Her pecieved smaller statures is due to her short hair making her appear young, Greg being an unreliable narrator, and the animators steadfastly not standardizing character designs.

>>79154636
Home world is Forge

Instead of fusions, they have Alloys

The "diamonds" are Precious Metals, Gold, Silver, Platinum/Bronze

Also, copper/police force and tin/soldiers is a nice touch.

>>79155245
Even when corrupted, Pearl a cute.

>>79155266
>>79155266

First, Greg's narration doesn't matter because they were watching a video tape in the flashback episode. Second, Amethyst was clearly tinier back then. She had a little mini drum set that was her height and barely makes it past Pearl's waist.

>>79155283
>>79155245

Of all gem types, I don't there are any male Pearls. Unless the corruption really runs that deep.

>>79155441
See point 3.

Amethyst was the same size. The Crew has stated that gems don't age. Vidalia also commented on it in show if you are one of those autists that doesn't consider anything said by the people who make the show. That is not to say you are such a person, I'm just covering my bases.

>>79155461
It's not just a corrupted gem, it's a prototype gem-organic hybrid.

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>>79155493
>>79155266
>Amethyst is the same size

No she clearly isn't

>>79153588
its dumb enough that it will happen on this show

>>79155493
I never actively seek out creator input unless I think it's important, but I know Gems don't age. I just figured it's a gem reforming in whatever form they feel like thing: One day Amethyst decided to start manifesting her physical form more "grown" and has since met Vidalia.

>>79155521
Yes her human form clearly is. They've stressed how gems maintain the same approximate default size in several episodes. They don't grow, they don't age.

>>79155587
She changed her hair. That's about it. They keep the same size. They can't just choose to be bigger 24/7. They mentioned that in Reformed and Steven's Birthday.

>>79155603
does that mean stephen is a perma manlet?

>>79155670
don't project yourself onto steven

They're all small because Rose is huge compared to all of them.

>>79155461
There's no male gems, period, and it'd make no sense for there to be any. Gems have no concept of sex, and so multiple genders would be completely alien to them.

>>79155720
Steven could never maintain a default size larger than Rose. However Steven does age and will likely grow until he reaches Rose's size.

>>79155783
clearly you meant to reply the other guy

>>79155670
Nah, he's half human, so he can still grow.

>>79155670
Like some fantasy races, he's slower to enter new age categories. Applying a strictly human timescale to him won't work.

>>79155804
Yes, yes I did.

>>79152655
If lion was literally Rose, you'd think he would give more of a shit in general, and especially about Steven. I don't think Rose can ever come back, it would ruin the dynamic if the show. It's all about Steven, Greg, and the gems all struggling without Rose but doing their best and trying to succeed as themselves outside of her shadow

>>79152655
They've been hitting pretty hard on the point that Steven is Rose, so it's doubtful that Lion is another incarnation of her.

The more curious aspect of Lion is the fact that he's basically an inter-dimensional gateway to both Rose's secret stash, as well as where ever the crew needs to go that doesn't have a warp pad nearby.

He's probably some sort of manifestation of Steven's power, or a guardian left by Rose to watch over the Desert Glass. He might be some sort of entity birthed by all the gems stored in the temple as a sort of gem tech output creature that handle basic functions like teleportation.

Come to think of it, that kind of puts the Desert Glass in to perspective. It's possible its another harvested Gem inserted in to an item to achieve some desired effect, much like Lapis was used to power a mirror that tells about gem history.

>>79156040
Problem is Gems tho Genderless never take on male form, Lion clearly takes on the Male form.


It'd be cool if we got another Alien race of "Males" so Steven would have some other kinds of role models.

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>>79155930
Sucks for Steven and Connie.

>>79155738
I'm aware, I was just saying "if there a were male Gems, it definitely wouldn't be a pearl." They're designed specifically to be attractive servants, kinda like a pretty office secretary.

That said, the problem with

>it'd make no sense for there to be any. Gems have no concept of sex, and so multiple genders would be completely alien to them.

then there'd be no reason for them all to be feminine either. Even the most masculine of gems like Jasper still have breasts and wide hips, which are functionally pointless on a species without sexual reproduction. If gems are sexless and their physical forms are entirely cosmetic, then there's no reason for gems NOT to appear male if they want to. (Amethyst sometimes shapeshifts into a man.)

At the end of the day, you have to accept that there being no male gems is entirely artistic license in extremely "soft" science fiction. Rebecca Sugar likes magical girls so gems are girls. It also doesn't make sense that a species without sexual reproduction would ever be capable of evolving stuff like romantic feelings. Or that all the ayy lmaos speak English.

>>79156222
Gems could appear male, but it'd make no sense for the pronouns to be any different.

>>79156216
If he's able to go a full day while being "stretched" I'm sure with time he'll be strong enough to do that more permanently.

It's clear the Gems can Reshape themselves, just doing it on the fly like that is considered hard.

But while being the weakest of the gems he managed to keep up this form all day, that's some power.

>>79155959
>you'd think he would give more of a shit in general, and especially about Steven

all the times Steven was in real danger Lion came to his rescue

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>>79156254
>If he's able to go a full day while being "stretched" I'm sure with time he'll be strong enough to do that more permanently.
That's not how it works. That was kind of the point of the episode. Steven has to let his aging happen naturally. You can't force puberty so don't try.

>>79156254
Yeah, I bet he'll come back older when he gets shattered eventually. And they'll make a big deal about it for one episode.

>>79156204
I think the show's just going to stick with Greg for that

>>79156254
He'll probably be able to maintain an adult height eventually. He'll just need to mature mentally and emotionally to do so.

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If Rose loved Earth so much, why didn't she marry it?

>>79156295
I guess this is the same avenue as make Peedle sexy.

>>79156295
That's uncomfortably hot.

>>79156301
I'm saying if his body really stops growing, It might be something he could become better at.

>>79156301
>>79156319
This does make the most sense tho.

>>79156314
This is the stupidest post in this thread.

>>79156326
because Greg killed her first

>>79156314
I highly doubt he can be shattered.

>>79156318
As cool as he can be, he's pretty lame In regards to everything besides taking care of a kid.

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>>79156326
She certainly tried fucking it.

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>>79156314
I think you mean poofed

>>79156367
I'm really surprised she is the one Joining the gems.

I really thought it would be Lapis.

Not complaining tho, the green imp is fine too.

>>79156364
He CAN be shattered, his Quartz's energy feeds his human counterpart. If someone breaks his gem then no more human Steven.

>>79156239
Well gendered pronouns are entirely an English convention. Not all languages have them. The Crystal Gems get a pass because they have always been called "she" by humans so that makes sense, they look like women so they go ahead and go by female pronouns because that's what humans assume they are. If Homeworld Gems didn't actually just speak English for plot convenience, then they probably wouldn't have gendered pronouns in their language. Actually their language would probably make implicit distinctions by class instead of gender.

>>79156415
I think all the Homeworld gems introduced are gonna be a CG later in the series, with maybe the exception of YD
We don't know what might happen later in the series

>>79156417
But I doubt it will result in his human body puffing into dust like the others, that's my point.

I'm pretty sure if his human part dies or his gem breaks beyond repair then he can't come back.

>>79156271
True, but he seems to act more like it's his job than any outstanding love for Steven. He's more passionate for food than anything Steven is ever asking him to do. Just strikes me more as something tasked by Rose than Rose herself

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Was getting caught part of her plan?

>>79156439
You really think that brick head will join them? Lapis sure, heck even the goblin I can understand, but I don't see it working out when it comes to the mad machine.

>>79156222
I don't think Jasper has breasts though. She's has a more barrel-chested look.

>>79156468
If he ever gets poofed I assume his physical form won't retreat into his gem, kinda like a carcasse.
Then when he reforms his gem automatically creates his human form from scratch. That if Rose doesn't interfere with the process

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>>79156439
>Jasper will get her own mini arc

Yes

>>79152655
my guess is either corrupted gem or an alien, something from homeworld that isn't a gem

>>79156508
They expected one of them in the wreckage

>>79156556
I'm pretty sure he just dies.

>>79156547
She looks like a muscle girl

>>79156511
Steven will best her in single combat, Jasper becomes Steven's follower while they hunt for DIO

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>>79156556
I always figured Steven and Rose's existence worked like this.

>>79156595
What kind of muscle girl?

>>79156511
Sure. That's how redemption works, and Jasper doesn't deserve to be hated since she hasn't done anything wrong.

>>79156607
Steven's powers kinda work against the idea of signal combat.

But I'd be down for that

>>79156617
this shouldn't be this funny

>>79156617
Well the art is fantastic, I'm pretty sure she gave herself up to create him.

>>79156639
Yeah suuure.

>>79156629
the stereotypical kind

>>79156617
Hey, this is actually a very interesting idea. She is dormant after all, so it's only logical to assume she'll come back when Steven's physical form gives up.
Also what the fuck is Greg doing?

>>79156511
There is literally nothing that makes Jasper less redeemable than Peridot.

Fuck, even Lapis has done more wrong than Jasper has at this point.

>>79156686
>the stereotypical kind
There are many stereotypes. Give specific examples.

>>79156686
Tell me what she's done wrong besides obeying orders?
That's right. Nothing.

>>79156686
>I'm pretty sure she gave herself up to create him.
It's been hammered in that Gems are their gems, though, and Rose's Gem still exists.

Rose have up her physical form for Steven to be born, but as a Gem she still exists and is where Steven gets his powers from.

>>79156729
On that note everyone besides Yellow Diamond should be a gem soon.

>>79156718
Lapis was imprisoned, she was just fighting for her freedom. Jasper just want's to destroy.

>>79156720
She looks quite a bit like Sakrua from Danganronpa

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>>79156718
She was just following orders.

How long till Steven "Murdercock jr." Universe converts her?

>>79156780
But how in gods name would she create a physical form like that? He's clearly of a different makeup then the Gems so with 0 gem output why doesn't Rose just manifest herself at the same time.

I think it's highly unlikely she will be back.

>>79156802
>should be a gem soon.

I mean crystal gem.

>>79156338
Good.

>>79156713
>Also what the fuck is Greg doing?

He's spraying her with his magic life milk

>>79156809
>steven has disruptive powers to gems and their equipment
>literally murdercock
>or maybe they like how it feels and they all become slaves in his pleasuregem harem.

>>79156863
thought it was a spider web

>>79156841
Steven is an organic construct with a gem powering him, in a similar way like Lapis powered the mirror.

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>>79156809
Gems aren't mudercocks. Only full blodded humans have murdercocks.

Pic related.

>>79156802
>Lapis was imprisoned, she was just fighting for her freedom. Jasper just want's to destroy.
Lapis trapped Jasper in Malachite out of pure spite. She's not fighting for her freedom - She's willingly DENYING her own freedom to unleash her anger on Jasper. It's not necessary at all, given how powerful Lapis is when she has the ocean at her disposal.

Jasper isn't motivated by destruction. She's exactly like Peridot - Following the orders of Yellow Diamond. Heck, she's the only one of the HW Gems who DIDN'T try to kill Steven.

>>79156888
well it's certainly sticky

nice trips btw

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>>79156883

>>79156922
But this doesn't explain how he was created.

The Mirror was already there, there was no Steven for a gem to power before he was conceived.

>>79156954
It'd be pretty stupid if all the Home World Gems just convert because Steven is a good kid.

I have to assume Jasper is well liked on /co/ then?

>>79152655
lions are gem constructs used for storage and sexual satisfaction

>>79157006
those are the pearls

>>79157006
just like pearls
therefore lion is a pearl

>>79153052
>I have nothing to back it up
Fear not, anon, I will back you up. Google up "Rose's Metal" and check up what it consists of.
I cannot be the only one that made the connection?

>>79156978
>Pearl with boobs
Disgusting.

>>79157084
>I cannot be the only one that made the connection?

no you're the only idiot who keeps pushing this dumb headcanon

>>79157035
>>79157036
there is nothing sexy about a pearl

>>79157262
We need to see a space bounty hunter with a pearl necklaces.

>>79157262
Aesthetics

>>79156978
where are my flat chested gems

>>79157262
I see your ploy, anon. You just want people to start dumping Pearl lewds! Well I'm not falling for it.

pearl is perfect

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>>79157373

>>79154636
Watch it's going to turn out that the creators of the gem race are a bunch of organic aliens that all look male and it's going to be used as a springboard for internet feminists to claim it's a metaphor for the patriarchy.

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>>79156216

They should've used this outfit for Steven.

I still think lion is a part of rose. Some mass that she let go in order to make a tiny baby. It has shapeshifting powers, like steven himself, and took form of a lion the moment steven said "I want to be a lion" at the beginning of 'cat fingers'.
[spoilers]nothing in this show is coincidence[/spoilers]

We also never saw steven shapeshifting near lion. I bet as he changes anything on his own body, lion changes a bit too.

>>79156997
>The Mirror was already there, there was no Steven for a gem to power before he was conceived.
The "Steven" in this situation was Greg's DNA sample.

Genuine question, in one of the episodes, we saw Steven rapidly age to teen, adult, old man, and such, so where did that whole thing go for when it was Steven's recent birthday?

That's been something that's been bothering me, was there a reason he won't age himself just a little bit or to whatever his respective age is?

>>79152938
>That needs explaining.
magic feminist space gems in a show by a tumblr artist

>>79158452
He doesn't consciously control it. His aging is involuntary and separate from shapeshifting, which is conscious but requires continuous effort to maintain.

>>79152655
Lion is.

>>79158492
Okay, that makes more sense.

>>79158452
he basically ages to how he feels

>>79158168
Gem physical forms are composed of light. No mass was lost when Rose became Steven, but somehow, due to Greg's sperm, mass was gained and Steven became an interstellar happa.

>>79152938
>>79153262
>>79153369
Alternatively it could be like how the God Emperor's soul was fragmented after the Horus Heresy.

Now Peridot just needs to install a text to speech device to Steven's navel.

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calling it now; rose is gonna be a powered up form when steven needs it to defeat yellow diamond in combat when the final invasion begins

>>79159030
so Gems have Saiyan levels?

>>79159030
Counter call: Steven will TRY to call on Rose...

But Rose can only give him encouragement and insight because the Rose Quartz is his and he must learn to face the trials of life on his own.

>>79159107
i'm getting an eva vibe but i like it

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I think lion is an early prototype hybrid of gem and organic life

you'd think Rose would be the one who not only wants to stop extermination of organic life, but also perpetuate gem life in a non-bellicous way

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>>79154777

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>>79159030
Calling it now: Steven is going to get poofed at the end of season 2. He will talk to Rose in his mind while poofed and then reform to help fight.

He will come back looking older like his birthday stretched form.

>tfw we will never have steven get poofed and Rose reform in his place.
>Tfw we will never have Rose working with the gems to "kill" herself again so that steven may live

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>>79159271
>Calling it now: Steven is going to get poofed at the end of season 2. He will talk to Rose in his mind while poofed and then reform to help fight.
So we Harry Potter now?

Also, side note:
It was confirmed that Steven does not naturally age, he ages with his emotions. As he matures he will gradually begin to look more mature, but he will never die from old age.

>>79159346
He will die when he feels he should die.

>>79159107
Raise: That advice and encouragement will be suggesting that Steven is stronger than she was because he's a fusion of human and gem, which will lead Steven to fuse with Connie to defeat YD with sword and shield.

>>79159271
>season 2 finale
>Steven and Connie doing their sword shield shit
>Steven is poofed in battle
>Connie is immediately killed

I dream about Connie dying sometimes. I don't dislike her, but I think she'd be way more interesting if she was dead

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>inb4 Connie dies so all of the superior ships can gain credibility.

>>79159271
>Steven
>poofed

I think he may be too organic to poof. Poofing works because gems are just light projections coming out of their gem stones. But Steven has flesh. He has to eat and sleep to maintain it, and he was growing like a regular child before he started to become stunted, and he has a set mass that gets floaty on the moon. I'm pretty sure he's got organs and a brain and all that stuff under his skin that people need to stay alive. Where would it all go if he poofed?

Have we ever seen him get hurt like even a papercut or bruise or something? I'm starting to wonder if he bleeds.

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>>79159449

>>79159508
the better question is how he can magically run around in flipflops but never trip or complain about sand in between his toes

>>79159386
Connie is le poor indian/asian overachiever child that has a shit social life trope, I swear sometimes I think Im watching Bobby Hill and Conny Sousanomonn.

Wait a second both of their names are connie well shit.

>>79159346
>he will never die from old age

I know gems seem to think that they are completely immortal, but I think even they corrupt or erode after enough hundreds of millennia.

>>79159550
Well he IS still magical.

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the more interesting question is when jasper came too earth

why did lion disappear?

everyone needed help even garnet got poofed shit got real and this dude just dipped

>>79156415
Lapis despises the CGs though except Steven

>>79159508

well in the episode where garnet and amy fused he was hit by a rock and shown to have a red mark on his head, and when jasper headbutted him he got a black eye. so its safe to say he bleeds and can bruise.

also pretty sure a crew member said Steven can't poof, just die.

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>>79159449
nice edge bro

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>>79159271

I think the closest we'll ever get to Steven seeing his mom again will have something to do with Rose's room. Remember that the whale in there suddenly spoke in Rose's voice towards the end of that episode, and its been shown to be capable of creating constructs of individuals based on what it can gather of them.

I think that a pretty decent Rose-construct is somewhere in that room, seeing as how it had as long as Rose lived there to gather data of her. In fact I think that Rose's room has a lot of answers to the show, and Steven just has to come to certain realizations of his own before he goes there to find them out.

For example, Greg losing his cool and trailing off about the gem war "It's not like I was there", sweating bullets and everything, seems really uncharacteristic of him. I think that Rose used the room to show Greg what she was involved in, and that at some point Steven will use it to show him and us, the viewer, exactly what the war was like without the gems sugarcoating/refusing to talk about it.

Also think it's highly likely that more will be revealed about Lion and what's in his mane either through the room directly, or something in the room tipping Steven off to it.

>>79160167
speaking of lapis, there's an odd angle about their society that pops up. they live in castes and each classification/type of gem/stone has a personality

>>79159893
Lion knew that if he came in contact with a mighty maned beast like himself, he would not be able to control his primal urges.

Steven would be traumatized at such a sight, so Lion wisely held back.

>>79159893
Lion never dissapeared he just does jackshit because hes a selfish fucking animal.

Were there other Rose Quartzes? What happened to them?

>>79160464
Where are the other Saphires? Where are the other Lapises?

Probably just a rare type of quartz that isnt seen often.

>>79154777
Checked and keked

>>79160440
Jaspion is the most underrated ship.

>>79160464
There were probably other Rose Quartzes, but they were probably destroyed after the rebellion. You know, to make an example and to erase her from history.

That or Rose Quartz is part of Pink diamond, or some other conspiracy theory.

>>79157035
I really like '' dance of swords'' and I'm super obsessed with Steven Universe but it doesn't matter that I' m a girl I don't care what anyone says about it I will always love Steven Universe my sister is always saying it's bad but I don't care what ppl think Steven Universe is my life it is the only thing getting me thru it right now <:( my mom wont buy me the new iphone pearl is the best
t. average SU fan

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>>79160688

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Is this real?

>>79160751
no

>>79160751
Yeah. Since their fuck-up, CN seemingly decided to release a 2 second teaser to fuck us up even more.

>>79160751
wew lad

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>>79160751

>>79160751
Obvious fake. Peridot sticks out like a sore thumb

>>79160751
No. It's a bad Photoshop. The original image is real, however.

>>79160751
No retard, the fact that the show is on hiatus but the screen says "later - new Steven Universe" should be your first clue

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Thought for a second that there was a second Lapis leak

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>>79160751

Probably (though this part looks badly edited)

>>79160820
when is it coming back?

>>79160861
2018

>>79160820
How long will the hiatus be anyway? Did they ever say anything about it again?
I think I should just drop this show and pick it up in three years again. Those release schedules are fucking horrible.

>>79160871
dang

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>>79156565
yes Jasper, that is attractive.

>>79154636
This is fucking stupid. Adding a bunch of alien men would ruin the show. Go watch the avengers or some shit

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>>79155154
TFW the metal equivalent to the Diamond Authority ends up being metalloids named Metallica, Megadeth, Slayer and Anthrax

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>mfw male equivalent
No, i just want my gay space rocks to stay gay

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>>79160974

>They're not fighting literal metal people.
>They're fighting personifications of metal bands.

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>>79160974
WE JOJO NOW?

>>79161042
the metals would also be gay.

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>>79161230
WE JOJO NOW!?!?!?

>>79160974
>>79161177
>After defeating the Diamond Authority, the metals AWAKEN and become the new antagonists.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZDEbsZpweDo

>>79160873
The creators have claimed that they can't reveal the schedule ahead of time. However, Matt claims that he thinks the new one should be satisfying (but then again, he's not exactly going to say that he hates his boss's decision).

>>79159893
He was taking a nap.

>>79156938
>TFW you get to return to the beach city for DESIGNATED
she doesn't care about steven or the gems, only the beach

>>79161042
Who says the space rocks need to fuck the space ores?

Who says the space ores would be straight?

The space rocks are gay in human eyes because they have romantic relationships with what we consider other women. Would it not be the same when Titanium rubs down his bare chest with motor oil, while Iron watches from the shadows, stricken with a vast thirst.

>>79156222
nobody ever got this anal retentive over the namekins being all male instead of androgynous.

>>79161338
>the new one should be satisfying
So it will start next week with another bomb and then air weekly? Because that would be the only decision that would satisfy me.

>>79160951
Matt Burnett pls go

>>79160413
Did anyone else note that, in the Answer scene when Lapis appears, the other gems in the scene also share her gem?

It was clearly intentional.

>>79155441
Greg says himself that the gems haven't grown since he met them

>>79160464
Rubies and Pearls are the only gems we've seen multiple of so far.

Thats like 2 out of 7. Just wait

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>Tfw want to discuss the show while its airing but mods delete SU threads if /sug/ is up

Can /sug/ just stay in /trash/ when the show comes back?

>>79155670
watch Steven's Birthday

>>79160688
don't you ever reply to me again

>>79163261
>mods delete SU threads if /sug/ is up

There are 3 /sug/s up right now and this thread and the Peridot one are still up as well.
Shut the fuck up

>>79163306
Please show them to me anon

>>79163347
I'm not gonna spoonfeed you, fucking idiot

>>79155154
Fucking where/when did they acknowledge that shit?

>>79163377
Looks like you don't even know what spoonfeeding is. Anyway, burden of proof is on you.

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>>79160751
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mb_6UOAj_D0

>>79163398
What burden of proof you fucking retard?
How fucking hard is it for you to look for them yourself?

>>79163452
Because its not true anon. You can say something that doesn't make it true.

>>79152655
Lion is Rose's gemless body.

Calling it.

Rose could form a human womb in her body when she was anthropomorphic, there's no reason she couldn't form a lion's brain and program it with a few minor commands and her own memories:

If you find Steven
>Look after him
>Assist him if it's urgent
>Reveal important shit from time to time
Else:
>Be a lion

>>79155603
Except that time she turned into a fucking helicopter.

>>79155670
He's still a human, he will grow.

He grew from a baby to a teenager.

I really hope he has a growth spurt eventually though, Professional Beach Hunk Steven had better fucking happen eventually.

>>79157755
Little Gemperor Steven.

>>79163730
Are you serious?

>>79163730
No, Lion is probably around the same age as Steven. He's most likely a prototype of creating life from a gem without the use of a kindergarten, but required a part of a living gem to manifest (Rose's hair). This success gives the idea of reproduction a go ahead for Steven to be born, but with the expense of Rose' being.

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Hey, did anyone else notice that when two gems who love each other fuse they don't have any extra arms, and when they hate each other they have extra-extra arms?

>>79152655
Lion is pink diamond

>>79164195
the CGs dont hate eachother but Alexandrite has 8 limbs, so

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I love my insane water waifu

>>79164195
You misunderstood everything.
Clearly you don't understand metaphors and subtext at all.

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>>79164267

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>>79164287
>metaphors

>>79164235
I think it's a gradual scale of repationship quality. The better the relationship, the more humanoid the fusion.

It fits pretty well:
>Stevonnie is perfect
>Garnet is almost perfect
>Opal, RQ and Sardonyx are mostly normal
>Sugilite is a bit more monstrous
>Alexandrite is more monstrous still
>Malachite is the least humanoid of all

>>79163758
default size. as in, not shapeshifting.

>>79164235
I said arms, not limbs. Alexandrite has six arms because garnet, pearl, and amethyst aren't in love, but ruby and sapphire are, thus they contribute only a single pair of arms to the whole

>>79164304
Eh?

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>>79164267
Gem s have no nipples and they're all relatively flat.(Rose was a fatty)

>pic related

>>79164333
except they have 3 eyes and no, sapphire isn't an excuse

I wonder if garnet unfusing into ruby and sapphire, then all five of them fusing would create a different fusion.
This theory isn't based on anything, just being curious

>>79164404
No.
2+1+1 equals 1+1+1+1

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>>79155154
>>79155213
So... Transformers?

>side note
If they had all fused into Alexandrite the moment the handship landed at Beach City Jailbreak would have never happened because they'd have kicked Jasper/Peridot's ass.

>>79164341
>and they're all relatively flat
Drawings of Garnet by Becky depict her with huge boobs.

>>79154636
Anon, why are you such a raging misogynist?

>>79164454
Or they'd all just be poofed at once. We've never seen Alexandrite fight.

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>>79164437
I'd prefer these

>>79164480
Well she can outrun a bus, all Alexandrite would have to do is step on Jasper.

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>>79164341
Hm. Alrighty then.

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I expected more cute mildly lewd Lapis in this thread

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>>79154777
We have a winner

>>79164454
no, you're just retarded

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>>79164523
JUST.

>>79164487
But there were Pillar Women.

>>79164562
We already have the Gems

>>79164546
Eh?

>>79164587
So you want male Gems?

>>79164620
How about you read the conversation first, then ask questions?

You're the guy who asks for the time when there's a clock on the fucking wall.

>>79164661
I know that you're talking about Metal Men, but from what I gather, you just want them to be nothing more than Male Gems.

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>>79164195
The crew already said there are no rules for how fusions look except extra of something

>Garent: Extra eyes
>Opal: Extra arms
>Sugilite: Extra arms and eyes
>Alexandrite: Extra arms and eyes
>Malachite: ditto
>Rainbow Quartz: Extra eyes
>Sardonyx: Extra eyes and arms

The only outlier is Stevnonnie but shes not even a normal gem fusion

>>79164312
That doesn't make sense. Why would Stevonnie be more perfect than Garnet?

>>79164755
Because they're a better couple.

>>79164755
The same reason why three Rubies make a bigger Ruby.

Guys, c'mon, he's obviously her familiar.
They already brought up the concept in-show with Connie's books, basically a checkov's gun at this point.

>>79164776
1. How?
2. How is Garnet as a fusion more perfect than Opal and Rainbow Quartz when they have as much extra as she does.

>>79164789
Why don't other gems have familiars then?

>>79164810
Garnet has only one extra eye, RQ has two.

Garnet's not a 100% perfect couple, they still fight sometimes. Garnet was so excited about Stevonnie because of how perfect a maych Steven and Connie were.

>>79164857
>Garnet has only one extra eye, RQ has two.

Because Sapphire only has one. Why would Garnet have four eyes? Not only that, its not like Steven and Connie never had problems and plus they're not in a relationship. Also, we've only seen R&S fight once. To say Steven and Connie have a better relationship than them is ludicrous.

>>79164836

So far, there are no sightings or implications of non-gem lifeforms on Homeworld. Meaning that, if lion WAS Rose's familiar, that didn't happen until after she arrived on Earth and took an active interest in the planet's natural state. So, the ability to have familiars is likely a power that gems haven't discovered or explored, due to aforementioned lack of resources.
Or, since Rose's powers seem to be largely rooted in nature, having a familiar is something unique to her/other nature-themed gems.

>inb4 why is he pink
Part of the show's aesthetic. Amass familiars, they get color-coded.

>>79152655
It's a bit of a stretch, but maybe Lion was a mortally-wounded lion that Rose happened upon one day, hundreds of years ago. Feeling bad for the poor creature, she was able to heal him, as well as grant him magical powers (warping, pocket-dimension in his mane, etc.), and immortality.

Rose was not able to do this with her own powers alone though. When she found Lion, she was possession of something that had extraordinary magical power: The Bismuth stone. It has such incredible magic infused in it, she feared that keeping it, uncontained, would bring chaos, and/or attract more attention from Homeworld. So, she bubbled it and stored it in Lion's mane.

>>79164777
Theres no such thing as "perfect fusion" as the fans put it. Sardonyx is just as "perfect" of a fusion as Mega Ruby

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>Rose wears the dress in all flashbacks and even murals

So it's pretty much confirmed that we'll never see her in any other outfit, right?

>>79164350
>>79164312
I should clarify: the love-arm connection so far seem to be an isolated ratio. Eyes are a different matter that lacks a solid rule. honesty is the closest guess, since with the exception of garnet, all multi-eyed fusions have ulterior motives. Garnet can be explained by Ruby not being able to access future-vision, but that doesnt explain why sardonyx has four eyes when she has thee components with three different things going on in her head

>>79165331
>but that doesnt explain why sardonyx has four eyes when she has thee components with three different things going on in her head
see>>79164722

>>79165153
calm the fuck down we're barely at s2

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>>79156216
That single face hair!

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Lion is Pink Pearl.

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Her drills will pierce the heavens

>>79152655
Seeing as rose could bring life to certain objects, it may have been a dying or dead lion cub that she healed/brought to life with either her healing ability or the ability to make 'slaves' as seen in watermelon steven

>>79165411
can you show me where they said that?

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>>79165773

>>79165819
Note how the blog name has been carefully edited out to hide the fact that it's not a writer tumblr

>>79165479
It's weird that Crystal Gems didn't know about the Lion

Seems like Rose kept some secrets even from them, and Lion might be a link to some bigger plot

Although, judging by the way she acted, I wouldn't really call her a tactician, since it seems that she only succeeded thanks to luck and sex drive

>>79165862
cant find the exact post but here

http://fairymascot.tumblr.com/post/124560226565/why-does-sardonyx-have-four-eyes

>>79165862
>>79165907
also

http://web.archive.org/web/20150907095724/http://joethejohnston.tumblr.com/page/2

>>79165907
If you just clicked the link, it would lead to the original blog of one of the storyboard artists who apparrently deleted the question. Either his answer wasn't the definitive one, or it's a fake quote.

Note that he didn't mention anything about there not being a rule for fusion parts, and the it does leave out the fact that the Rube Cube had no extras.

Admittedly, my theory doesn't cover same-gem fusion but they dont have any distinction between different rubies

I reall hate it when fanartists draw Jasper essentially as a man instead of just a muscular woman.

>>79166122
Looking at the archive, he deleted most of his post pertaining to fan questions. I assume it was a way to show that his blog isn't for asking questions and that he's not really going to do much of that anymore.

>>79164404
>>79164435

But it's been shown that Ruby+Ruby=Stronger Ruby, and according to Garnet the other fusions make a different being that's stronger the both of the materials strength.

Thus, it would make the most sense for each fusion to fuse with another fusion, as the fusion would be stronger that way.

>>79166122
I belive fusion designs are made with looks and symbology in mind, rather than some concrete mechanics
There are some general rules obviously but I personally glad that they make every fusion rather unic.

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>>79160401
Though some anons wanna claim it's some kind of computer shit, I do believe that Rose's will still resides in the Gem somewhat and it came out in those moments in the Room.

But as for Steven meeting Rose, I'm still banking on him getting hurt badly (like broken arm/leg) and knocked out, then finding Rose in a dream where she heals him.

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So, It's obviously very really for that, but what would you expect from the series finale?

I know stevencrew is anime fans, and Trigger in particular so I'm really hoping for something big and emotional

Like a PG13 version of the moment in Pic from KLK finale

Well, there is a bit of symbology at least to the hand-rule. Holding hands is considered a romantic gesture.

As for eyes, they represent two different identities sharing a body... usually. I don't remember sardonyx's eyes moving independently, she was just monstrous.

I think since Garnet kind of insists on the whole fusion=relationship connection, it would make sense if their bodies reflected their relationship

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>>79158168
>>79158862
I do think that Rose split off some of her base energy to form Lion.
I don't remember that line from cat fingers, but the whole episode was basically Steven making sentient cat life from his body, not normal transformation.

Imagine Rose doing that, on purpose, and with her skill. She could have split off/made Lion prior to giving birth to Steven in order to leave him some latent power/gifts that he'd only retake when old enough.

>>79159030
Jeez man, spoilers
I could see Stevonnie maybe channeling Rose for a momentary power up. She's the right scale already.

>>79166570
Garent is pretty much the only one who said this though.

Why are people so opposed to Lion being Pink Diamond? I mean come on, how can you look at this pic and think "nah": >>79164195

>>79166822
Rose said it too, and the story always frames garnet as correct about this sort of thing

>>79155280
>Gold, Silver, Platinum/Bronze
>Gold, Silver
Electrum for best fusion.

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>>79166427
>pic

>>79166824
It could be, or he got Pink Diamond gem stored up somewhere on him

The space warping stuff that he does seems really powerful for what supposed to be just a familiar

But then again, every random artifact of gems have some Jojo level world breaking powers so Lion doesn't seem that out of place

does anyone have any headcanons about gem vaginas?

My headcanon is that imperfect fusions can get multiple vaginas or really fucked up ones if they're more monstrous. Sugilite has 3 vaginas like a kangaroo, and each one is filled with teeth

>>79167073
Technically they can get as many vaginas as you want anon
But they have zero by default
Except for Amethyst probably

>>79166927
So, what if interracial fusions are possible? Would Iron plus a diamond (carbon) make them steel?

Why does everyone assume bismuth isn't a gem? It's a decorative crystalline solid that isn't smelted or shaped but grown as crystals

>>79160553
Sometimes I think the fandom isn't that bad, and then I see shit like this and know that it is

>>79167213
Well, because bismuth is a metal. Albeit a post transitional metal.

While gems also contain metallic elements in them, I believe non metals like carbon make the bulk of their forms.

>>79167277
actually, most of them are based on silicon and oxygen. Pearl isn't even a stone, and to be honest, we don't even have proof that bismuth is really bismuth. Rose quartz also forms hopper crystals you know

>>79156222
Literally only Rose has breasts and that's due to her fetishizing humans. While Garnet, Jasper, and Amethyst have curves in approximately the right places, that just means that their torso is spherical.

They'd look weird as fuck naked.

>>79152655
Guy has a good theory

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MSybwZTNbUw

>>79167604
They'd look like knock-off Babries.

>>79167686
Nope

>>79167686
No.
Think for yourself

>>79152655
Its probably just a fuckin lion. Its there cuz having a pink lion with magic powers is cool.

>>79164722
Stevonnie has an extra dick

>>79166475
I'm hoping the CG and any remnants of the gem culture will leave Earth and fly away like angels as Steven looks up towards them and plays his ukelele for one last song.

Maybe the final fight will have a bunch of gems fusing together, possibly with the humans as well for a big End of Evangelion style climax.

>>79156556
I believe i read that crewniverse themselves said that if steven poofs, he dies and that he can't regen like the crystal gems. same with his gem getting cracked i think.

>>79168726
good boy

>>79168287
All I can come up with is that is was just some earlier episode shenanigan that stuck around and now Sugar might try to write into the story.

>>79159508
He will.

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>>79168386

This isn't post-season 4 AT brosef, shit like this actually leads somewhere.

>>79154636
If you want a show about a group of male-identifying inorganic aliens that can change shape, combine with each other, and have a long history of civil wars that take place on earth, with an underdog faction that decides to vouch for humans, warp points that connect certain intergalactic points, etc etc.....

watch transformers

>>79164722
Maybe Stevonnie has no extra parts because it's a human + human.
If Steven fuses with another Rose Quartz it'd be the same.

>>79168726
But would Rose come back?

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>>79168527
>extra


Oh boy, this just gets better and better.

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>metal men

Why would anyone wants this is beyond me.
The concept itself is literally sonic oc tier bullshit.

>>79177033
It's not even OC that's the problem.