Why creators just doesn't make every character Bissexual?

Because not everyone is bisexual you faggot.

I don't read things without straight people being the main character

>>79125043
>tumb8

>>79125098
But comic and cartoons doesn't need to reflect real life. Do you see aliens or men dressed as bats on real life?

>>79125043
That is what fans are for.

>>79125165
No one wants to see gays tho.
Any comic featuring a gay
protagonist is always cancelled. They will never sell.

But I wouldn't mind reading lesbian stuff

>>79125165
>Do you see aliens or men dressed as bats on real life?
Yes, Juan and his gay lover like to dress up as bats for degenerate sex.

>>79125098
>Because not everyone is bisexual
True.

>I don't read things without straight people being the main character
Ha! How fucking sensitive are you? This reminds me of when I was a kid and didn't want anything to do with female protagonists.

>>79125043
They've already made every female character bisexual. Men generally seem to be off limits in the big comics lines unfortunately. Very few men are spontaneously into other men like they write women.

>>79125165
>Do you see aliens
Reptilians are amongst us. Hiliary Clinton is an Reptilian Alien. Cameras interfer with their cloacking devices because of the EMPs.

>or men dressed as bats on real life?
During Holloween.

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>>79125141
>tumblr

Hey, I found the guy who doesn't know what he is talking about!

Just look at the catalog.

Also, just check every male hero, and see if he isn't better with other male character. I challenge you.

Superman - Batman/Luthor
Batman - Superman/Dick/Joker
Hal - Sinestro/Flash
Booster Gold - Bllue Beetle

This is a fact ;)

Just give me a reason for why these pairings arent better than the canon vanilla.

>>79125043
>Everyone just care about shipping
What? No they don't.

Also because parents may forbid Timmy to buy his next Batman comic if Superman fucks him in it.

>>79125245
>Conspiracy theoriest
This way to >>>/pol/

>>79125283
>Two guys cant be friends/rivals
>They have to be lovers
>Idiots confuse brotherly bond for intimacy

>>79125283
>Superman - Luthor
>Batman - Joker
>Hal - Sinestro
Nigga come on.

>>79125283
>>>/lgbt/ is where you belong, you degenerate fuck. Get electroshock therapy to cure your degeneracy.

>>79125225
It just doesn't relate to me.
A gay protagonist is a no. A lesbian protagonist is more relatable

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>>79125283
>>79125340

>Two guys are rivals or enemies and hate each other
OMG I HAVE TO SHIP THEM!

>Two guys are best firends
OMG I HAVE TO SHIP THEM!

>Two guys are brothers/father-son
OMG I HAVE TO SHIP THEM!

>Two guys guys are in the same room together
OMG CAN'T YOU JUST FEEL THE SEXUAL CHEMISTRY? OMG I HAVE TO SHIP THEM!

Uusally I don't have a problem with gayfags, but they are starting to get annoying.

Fuck you OP.

>>79125283
Lmao look at this faggot
>Superman - Livewire
>Batman - Selina
>Hal - Carol


There's already a gay thread, stick to one.

>>79125356
>Being this insecure about your sexuality

>>79125422
>Two guys are rivals or enemies and hate each other
>hate
I can kinda understand that mentality: hate is another word for love.

>>79125478
Yeah, if you're insane.

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>>79125426
Are you seeing anyone image dump this with gay images? No? Its not that kind of thread, this is for discussion and about BI characters.

Being gay and bi are different things, making every character gay is just unrealistic. Being bi makes every ship possible, you can even use this mentalitty for Kamala Khan, Power Girl or She Hulk, if you want.

>>79125426
>livewire
Are you a cartoonfag?

>Selina
You talk like this ship went somewhere, after all these years.

>Carol
Ha! Hilarious!

>>79125426
>not Hal and Arisia

>>79125570
>Being bi makes every ship possible
Who cares. Like I want MORE terribly written relationships, gay or not, in my superhero funnies.

>>79125570
>wanting relationshit drama in my stories about punching

>>79125718
>>79125733

Not him but if people didnt wanted it, the fandoms wouldnt make so much of it.

>>79125877
Obviously some people want it since they make fan art/fiction of it. Obviously some people don't since they're telling it to you right now. What now?

>>79126088
Have you com paredes the amount of same sex fapfic pairings with straight pairings?

Its obvios what the fans want.

>>79125043
In Japan, I think works without overt homosexuality are more popular among female audiences than ones that have it. Likewise, "moe" works popular with male audiences don't usually have explicit lesbianism, or it's one-sided.

It seems that people prefer to use their imaginations.

>>79125043
>t. tumblr

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>>79126173

Fans want wonder-woman to be fat because of their fan-fiction.

>>79126204

>>79099682

>>79111375

>>79123904

Fuck off.

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>There are poeple on this thread RIGHT NOW that think that a straight pairing can be better than homolust.

>>79125043
I kind of a agree OP. Just wait 30 years, it will happen.

>>79125043
It would be out of character for a moral person to engage in degeneracy. Why would you want to look up to a hero if he's just as bad as the people in real life?

>>79126173
It's obvious what the fans who write fanfictions want. They're no more valid as fans because they write fanfictions, and they're a pretty niche group, whatever you might think,

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>>79126795
>Why would you want to look up to a hero if he's just as bad as the people in real life?
Because depsite having the same flaws as real people, they can still outweight that by doing more good. In fact it's more admirable to do good when it's not the only option nor the most comfortable one.

For instance, courage is not having no fear, it's triumphinbg over your fear and doing what you have to do in spite of that obstacle.
What if they repress their homolust because they think that's the moral thing to do?

>>79126931
I'd read about a hero seeking to cure his homosexuality.
Especially if he succeeds in the end.

>>79127002
Fuck you.

>>79127090

Yeah, what if superman found the way to stopped homosexuality?

>>79127211

Not being homophobia, I am just saying random things.

>>79127211
That sounds interesting. People would get mad either way and he would have to make a tough choice.

>>79127211
>>79127238
Is 4chan getting shittier?
I bet that you have a huge homolust over Superman.

>>79127296
>>79127090
Girl don't get this defensive. Jesus you'd think by now you'd have learned to not take this shit personally, if even seriously.

Do you really think this thread was more interesting when it was OP lobbying to make everyone bi because then it wouldn't interfere with his favorite fanfic?

>>79125043
Actual faggots are ruining 4chan

>>79125043
Only retards and children care about shipping.

>>79125098
>being this autistic

>>79126173
The only people who write fan fiction are delusional, un-creative faggots that break down when writers stray from their headconon.

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>This entire thread.
Who gives a shit about sexuality? The first and foremost things a character needs are great characterization, room for development and a good writer to flesh them out.

Everything else relative to a character is secondary and not as important. Sexuality is one of those factors.

Let me spell it out for you in simple English OP.

A character can be Straight, Gay/Lesbain, or Bisexual - it doesn't matter.

But it should NEVER, EVER be the main fucking focus of the character!

> i.e. we'll make X character gay for the sake of media attention and support from the LGBT community.

So essentially, the opposite of pic related if you know the context of that and the comic it's from.

>>79125043
not everyone is a homo

not even 10% of the population are homo

>>79129345
There are less redheads than homossexuals, and still, there are much more redheads than homossexuals on comics.

Also, this is a fictional world, where people can play with things bigger and more interesting than realitty, so its easy to have 25 or 30% of the heroes,villains and support characters as non binary or LGBTQ.

>>79128046
Its not onlt a matter of representation, it would add something for boring characters as Green Lantern, and bring new facets to other heroes, like the gaybaiting that they always do with Dick with everyone, or Superman and Batman. Its awful, just go for it, you know that its what we like.

>>79129487
The red haired tone used in comics is not the "redhead ginger" usual. It's the hair tint one that a lot of women have.

That being said, redheads are a known attractive traits to straight males all around so one would understand why the editorials push redheads as a way to captivate their audience.

Making 30% of characters gay (one out of three would have to be gay) would only serve as temporal PR and would eventually flop sales since a lot of comics nowadays are still being sold to straight white males not hordes of homosexuals that don't even exist.

Also you are saying that homosexuality is a new facet? Really? New facets to heroes should come from character development not from who they decide to fuck. Good stories are made by good writing not from sexual allignment. Gay characters aren't interesting because they are gay they are interesting because you want to know more about them.


You are just whining you wish that a demographic should be over represented just because you want to fap to male on male action.

That isn't only a hypocritic thing to do, but also a discriminating one. Gay people aren't interesting because they are gay or because they are pushed into your face Borderlands style. They are interesting (when they are) because they are people with interesting traits other than homosexuality. But of course you wouldn't care about good writing or representation or characterization you just want to fap to fanfics and whine on tumblr about how there's no "accurate" 50% representation of all people on movies

>>79129679
That's a lot of projection for one post buddy

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>>79125165

>But comic and cartoons doesn't need to reflect real life.

They do if they're cape comics. That's why nothing significant is ever actually allowed to change. It's why 9/11 somehow still occurred despite there being so many fucking heroes that routinely stop planes from crashing into buildings. It's why super scientist philanthropists never cure cancer, all genetic diseases, and supply high grade prosthetics to all people who need them, or better yet let them regrow limbs.

You can have space aliens, immortal magicians, extradimensional gods, and guys in bat costumes jumping off rooftops, but there will still be war in the Middle East, there will still be people suffering from disease and hunger, and street gangs will still be a thing even if the Punisher kills more thugs and crime lords than China has people living in it.

>>79129704
Fine job anon you just invalidated every single thing I said in my post with your cynical one liner here's your "cool 4chan reply" tag

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>>79129704
>Dat reply.

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>>79129487
>boring characters
>Green Lantern
This is what you degenerates killed. And you laugh and brag about it, as if it were an achievement.

>>79129679
>>79129828
>>79129907

You just dont got it.

By making them bi we would not remove ANYTHING from them, we aould ADD. Now the characters are open to way more interactions with each other than just the usual. You dont need to remove friendship or other relationships, you just have now the possibility of shipping Dick and Midnighter. You now has some validation to ship Bruce and Superman or Tim and Kon.

Hell, just look at the Tim x Kon threads and see if the ship doesnt make both more interesting. Why you think its popular? Seriously?

>>79130082
Damn....stop confusing what people like, with the right thing to do. People don't know shit about what they like.

>>79130082

I guess Superman needs to fuck his sister because it is what the fans wanted for the long time.

>>79130553
Anon pls his cousin

>>79130082
>you just have now the possibility of shipping Dick and Midnighter
But you already do, you autist. Do you really need a word of God tap on the head to imagine something that isn't canon anyway happening just because the official stance is Dick isn't bi?

I'll never understand shippers.

>>79130553
Ok them.

>>79130617
But now it would BE canon. Its not us just pretending that he is doing that.

>>79125508
Hate isn't anti love, not caring/indiffrence is anti love

>>79130771
Yeah it is still you pretending. Dick being bi wouldn't mean he would canonically be fucking everyone.
Besides as you've stated there's already more gay shipping than straight, so it seems shippers who are less autistic than you can deal just fine with their ship being explicitely non-canon.

>>79130830
Nobody said it was the opposite of love either, but words don't work in 2 dimensions anon.

>>79125043

Goddamn, how many containment boards is going to take before you just fucking go there?

Seriously, it's hard supporting gay people's rights when they're so incredible self-serving all the time. OP's question is basically "why can't artists and writers spend more time getting my boner up instead?" That's what it boils down to.

Plus if everyone was gay than you're not a special, protected minority class anymore are you? You seem to want both, you seem to want to be the disenfranchised minority who's underrepresented and needs more characters like you... but you want EVERY character to be like you. So you're the majority now? Which one is it?

>>79125422

This.

Enough with the homo-projecting. Gay people want respect for their relationships but they don't seem to respect an ounce of respect for non-gay relationships.

Lets end this.

1. No one wants to see gays in comics, literally no one but gays.

2. Sales would drop

3. Only the LGBTGTAQ+ can relate to the LGBTGTAQ+.


So no. We will never and there should be never a time where everyone is bi.

>>79125043
>>79125165
>>79125283
>>79125478
>>79125570
>>79126173
>>79126572
>>79126931
>>79129487
>>79129704
>>79130082
No one who matters gives a shit about shipping. Your fanfics do not matter. If you want there to be gay superheroes, GO MAKE ONE and get him published, write a hole cast of faggot faeries for him to jump into bed with, so you can ship him with all kinds of people. Go for it. If there really is mass appeal in that kind of character, it WOULD HAVE HAPPENED BY NOW. We have a gay Superman/Batman couple, they're called Apollo and Midnighter and there's a reason most people have never heard of them. Sorry tumblr, but it's just not working. You try it with comics, you try it with vidya, you try it with a lot of things. You want to make one small change, something most people wouldn't notice or care all that much about. But that's your toehold, your beachhead. You use it as a justification to ask for more changes, then more, until you've turned something good into another Liberal faggot mouthpiece. And the worst part is, you never cared. You don't actually care if they make Superman a fag, you just want the satisfaction of knowing you got them to change something by nagging it to death.

>>79128046
>sexuality doesn't matter if it's well written!
>s-so you can't say my faggot fapfics are bad, right?
Fuck. You.

>>79129345
It's more like 2%

>>79130082

No it does change. Everything! If Superman has feelings for Bruce and Bruce fucks Dick instead, Superman gets jealous and doesn't want to be Batman's friend. Drama happens.

This happens in real life all the fucking time. I get the feeling you're one of those gay kids who's never actually had a real relationship enough to know or realize how much sex and lust destroy social interactions more than help bolster them.

I've seen it happen to many times. Two people rub their genitals together. Now they want to rub other people's genitals instead. Then two groups of people can't talk to each other because two people in the groups decided that their genitals were far more important than everyone else's desires or relationships.

This is petty, human, never ending bullshit every time sex is involved. And what do you want? More sex, more smut, more porn.

>>79132168
>No one wants to see gays in comics, literally no one but gays.

kek

>>79132233
It's true is it not?

I'd rather buy a lesbian comic, wouldn't you

>>79132288
Have bad news for you, my autistic friend: people often like things we don't like.

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>>79132169
>sexuality doesn't matter if it's well written!
>s-so you can't say my faggot fapfics are bad, right?
>Fuck. You.

Holy Shit. You're a fucking idiot who can't read.

My point is that sexuality shouldn't be the defining aspect of any comic characters. It's a footnote at best.

>>79132587

>My point is that sexuality shouldn't be the defining aspect of any comic characters. It's a footnote at best.

That's a shifty non-argument at best.

Look at Lois and Clark. Two random names but you know exactly who I'm talking about because of their RELATIONSHIP which implies SEXUALITY and their sexual orientation has become very much a part of their character.

Your argument is a backdoor argument for shipping whatever you want. That's all you just said -- a self-serving platitude.

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>>79132695
Oh my fucking god. I'm not a shipping fag.

I was replying AGAINST the OP who felt that Sexuality needed to be constantly pressed on characters.

His desire for needless sexuality changes is a damaging notion.

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>>79132752
Cont.
Which is something you'd realize if you actually read my first reply here >>79128046 more thoroughly.

>>79132587

Also if sexuality is non-important then we don't need ANY gay people then do we? What's the difference between a gay guy and straight guy? According to everyone, NOTHING but their sexuality. So if they're sexuality is a footnote and shouldn't matter, why make them gay at all? If not to draw special attention their non-important or relevant sexuality that's still important enough to warrant copious amounts of gay sex scenes instead of plot.

>>79132169

Straight truth.

Especially how they keep demanding more and more changes to turn their favorite characters they don't actually read to fit them more and more, first their non-important sexual footnote, then their clothes, then their political views. It never ends, these people are unpleasable.

>>79132752
>>79132695

Guys! GUYS! We all against OP!

Changing a character sexuality is fucking stupid.

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>>79125043

>>79132752

But you replied to someone who essentially agreed with you but you called them a "fucking idiot that can't read"

So what does that make you if you agree with them?

>>79132587
What's the matter, did I strike a nerve? If sexuality doesn't matter, why have any at all? Sorry, but I can read. Unfortunately for you, that includes BETWEEN THE LINES.

>>79132288
>lesbians aren't gays

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>>79132860
Wait, are you telling me that:

">sexuality doesn't matter if it's well written!
>s-so you can't say my faggot fapfics are bad, right?
Fuck. You."

Is what someone says if they AGREE with someone? Needless shittalking is friendly now?

Well, shit.

>>79132803
When did I ever explicitly say that it was completely unimportant and worthless?

All I said was that it wasn't as important as the fundamental factors that are narratively driven.

Don't put words in my mouth to reinforce your points.

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>>79132963
>sexuality doesn't matter
See >>79133041

I'm not the one that said sexuality doesn't matter. It's just not the most important.

Find someone else to crucify in this personal war of yours.

>>79132169
Hey man, my post >>79126931 was just trying to show that flawed characters are interesting, and then some memeing. You're taking this shit way too seriously.

>>79133041
Asshole, your opening line was "who gives a shit about sexuality." You try to find an excuse to worm your bullshit into something, by making it seem like your bullshit worming in isn't even a problem.

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>>79133151
You know what asshole? You win.
I'll try not to be a prick, and I'll change my perspective now.
Sexuality should be a little more important to characters.

>>79133132
No, you're as bad as the guy saying sexuality doesn't matter. Change one little thing, something seemingly inconsequential. But that only makes it easier to get another little change, and another, until you've essentially taken control.

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>>79133151
I think what anon is saying is he doesn't care if someone wants to worm their thing in, not that it's his own worm.
Yeah you're getting angry about something anon never suggested: that is that it's good to make characters gay.

>>79133222
Waste of a trip tbqhwy.
Neither that anon nor I are suggesting any change.
>you've essentially taken control.
>you
Yeah alright buddy.

>>79131899
Every word of this.

>>79125422
>making foes into tsun-tsun moe crap, never seen outside of how pre-school girls act around boys they like

I never got this for gay, OR straight pairings, and I think I never will.

Hell, even the IRL version of it I've seen, haven't been to the point that you could mistake LITERALLY TRYING TO KILL THE PERSON, for trying to fuck 'em.

Hell, for that matter, the only IRL types I'd seen, were people too fucked in the head to get in a sane relationship, in the first place, and they usually drive their s.o. to abuse, unlike the fantasy hate-ship bullshit.

WHY is this the shipping option of choice?

>>79132387
>autism
>clearly not looking at the thread

Not saying >>79132168's right that no one wants to see it, but seriously, why do gays NEVER see the autism in their OWN groups, as well?

Like >>79125442' who is ONLY secure in his sexuality, with constant reinforcement of it, through outside means. If there was sexual security in this, then the sexual preferences of a character wouldn't fucking matter to him, any more than it should've mattered to >>79125356.

But like so many homo = identity types, it's literally "okay when WE do it", as this whole thread shows.

So no John, you ARE the autism.

>>79133369
>WHY is this the shipping option of choice?
>>79125478
>>79125508

>>79125043
They pretty much do this in anime. A character will almost never be explicitly straight and because relationships in anime are always in the 'building' stage, where it takes forever just for them to kiss it's very easy to imagine them as being gay but also very easy to deny it.

>>79125043
Because being gay is sinful and evil and by having a main character living in flagrant sin like homosexuality without a chance of them being brought out of it nobody will enjoy it.

>>79125283
This.