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Will Disney actually have the stones to kill off such a beloved character?
>Will Disney actually have the stones to kill off such a beloved character?
This is Disney man, they're known for killing of beloved characters and making children cry. Don't you remember Bambie's mom and Mufasa?
The question is: will Filoni be strong enough to kill the waifu of the decade... and his true love?
Yeah, sure. And when Chewie suddenly vanishes from the movie after shooting Kylo Ren all he did was run to the Falcon, warm it up, and change all the preset channels on the radio Han never let him touch.
Episode IX will have a darkest hour moment when Leia slips away to a dark room with Han's body suspended in bacta ever since Chewie saved him and she brings Han out in an homage to the carbonite scene in Return. Now light their darkest hour, smuggler man. Finish the fight and bring your sonny boy home.
Reposting just for that one anon who needs his MSW fix
>All you people claiming Ahsoka dies and all the Rebels cast too are so completely wrong. I'm from MSW and just back from a highly dangerous infiltration mission at Lucasfilm where I interrogated Dave Filoni's hat for secrets. THIS is the 100% accurate Rebels endgame. Spoilers ahead, so BEWARE!
>The very last episode is a Weisman inspired time skip to right before the events of ANH. The scene opens on Coruscant during Empire Day celebrations when something very strange happens during the parade...
>These events provide a timely distraction, tying up Imperial Forces over the capital so Rogue One can successfully steal the Death Star plans. Raw test footage below:
>*The Ghost is obviously disguised as a parade float
>*Zeb is riding atop the float dressed in what is basically the Slave Leia outfit. Disney doesn't care as long as it's a dude wearing it.
>*Kallus is confirmed to survive the show only to be fragged by his own troops at the Battle of Endor
>*Chopper absconds with the Betty Droid fluffer serving in Sheev's personal harem, current whereabouts unknown
>*Twenty year old Ezra rides atop the revealed Ghost, tells Hera to drive him closer to the marching AT-ATs so he can stab them with his sword
>Remember this is an MSW exclusive! MSW: Correct 100% of the time 78% of the time!
She'll die, Rex, Wolf, and Gregor will die, Kanan will die, Ezra will die, Sabine will go into hiding, Chopper will live, Zeb will die.
The whole cast will be killed off in the finale
Mufasa was a loved character. You need to understand Disney will kill the ones you love, they have no qualms about that. Saying 'hur dur its Disney, they're kiddie shit' is false. They will kill the ones you love and will kill beloved characters, like they've done in the past.
They might but I would be surprised if they did anything overt. They'll show Vader's shadow striking down her shadow as Ezra freaks out, or she'll fall off a "cliff" like the Grand Inquisitor.
Something emotional but not "graphic" (very relative when talking about the kinds of kids who like her).
Honestly though it's her connection to the kids that make her death unlikely. Seems far more probable that she's at the brink of death when Rex sacrifices himself to save her, something like that. All the emotional impact without Filoni actually having to kill his waifu.
Vader in this time, to me, is a pretty unrepentant person. He's aware of the guilt, but you have to remember that Anakin doesn't believe he did anything wrong, he believes everyone else betrayed him," Filoni explained. "Padme's death is a horrific side effect to what went down. I think he does feel responsibility there, because the Emperor made him believe it's his fault. But at the end of the day, as long as it's serving to consume him in anger and hate, and throw that out in the world, then I think it all works."
That's not the story he hopes to tell in Rebels, however.
"The story I want to tell is that there is this apprentice, the apprentice of Anakin Skywalker," he said referring to Ahsoka Tano. "'Anakin Skywalker taught her, and I need to destroy the memory of Anakin Skywalker' - that would be Vader's take on it. He doesn't want anyone to remember the good person that Anakin was, because 'that name no longer means anything to me.' That's where he's at." Don't expect any redeeming moment for Darth Vader if and when he and Ahsoka finally come face-to-face, though. "No one is going to turn Vader, except Luke. And even then, it almost doesn't happen. It's a tragic story at the end of the day, Darth Vader." - Filoni
Disney/Lucasfilm ordering the death of their kid tested and approved strong female character? I don't think so.
Ahsoka is more important to the overall saga than Han Solo, mate. She's Darth Vader's freakin' apprentice.
Some people have theorized Ahsoka/Ezra/Kanan surviving and meeting Luke, but that would be stupid and honestly a much worse fate, because of what we know happens to Luke's Jedi.
But yeah, all signs are pointing towards some Vader slaughter incoming.
Han Solo's death is way more tragic though, even if you didn't know him beforehand. Obi-Wan Kenobi's death seemed a lot more planned and ambiguous, and some first-time viewers didn't even realize he actually died at first.
>He was just some nice old guy who showed up and got stabbed
To be honest, if you DON'T know who han is, his death scene is a lot more gutwrenching, because in TFA, he really, really is a NICE GUY.
>What the fuck do you think this is all going to lead up to?
Some idiot is going to scream about waifufags in response to...oh, look, already happened.
The truth of the matter is everyone here expects her to die. What we would like and hope to see, instead, is some creativity in the fates of the characters. "Vader just ganks everyone" is very boring. Have Kalus get a frag, have someone sacrifice themselves for the team, have someone get shipped to Palpatine in person, hell, even have someone survive.
The point is more: Be nasty and creative, Darth Filoni.
That's cute. You sound like the anons who swore she had to die in TCWs because she didn't show up in Episode III and there is no way Sidious wouldn't have targeted her in Order 66. She's dead and anyone who thinks she's Fulcrum is just an Ahsokafag who can't accept reality.
Your tears are as delicious now as they were then and as they will be when Filoni starts his new show set in the Sequel Era that has Ahsoka show up as Old Master Tano to advise a new generation of scrappy young heroes with the Force.
I dunno, in the theater only children cheered when the MF and Han appeared. They also clapped in the end.
>The truth of the matter is everyone here expects her to die. What we would like and hope to see, instead, is some creativity in the fates of the characters.
Uh, the expected thing would be for her to live. Ahsoka dying would be a major step up
>She's dead and anyone who thinks she's Fulcrum is just an Ahsokafag who can't accept reality.
Everyone knew Fulcrum was Ahsoka, even me. Quit being the retard that doesn't understand what foreshadowing is. At this point it's becoming pathetic, and I like Ahsoka.
>Everyone knew Fulcrum was Ahsoka
There were anons who claimed Fulcrum was Padme.
Why? Because Leia in the OT said she remembered her mother so obviously Bail and Yoda faked Padme's death. Didn't matter that the actual lines included Leia's real mom dying when she was very young.
That was just one of the Fulcrum theories. There was no consensus. Even now we have anons who somehow don't know it was already revealed coming up with theories. An anon a few threads ago said it was Darth Maul.
anyone want this again
uploaded pics from it a few threads back
So many people were swearing it was Mon Mothma. Or Leia.
Theories that it was Ahsoka included the markings on the crate (which didn't match Ahsoka's old markings but do match her new ones), theories that it wasn't include Fulcrum's hood being unable to account for Ahsoka's horns. But obviously holograms can be faked, right? But why fake a hologram with a hood pulled over the face? Because it's part of the fake out! But Sidious didn't even bother with that level of shenanigans!
The debates consumed our threads at times.
She's showing up in Rebels, check the link.
Oh hell yeah, a lot of the "theories" were shits and giggles. I remember posting some but others claiming Fulcrum was Sheev or Mara Jade, stuff like that.
Reminder that the real Ahoska died before Episode III.
Fulcrum Ahsoka is actually a Guri-class combat sex droid commissioned by Sheev to fuck with the Rebels
yet she comes of much older...
part 1 of TFA art
That's not even the issue with this scene. It's that he can somehow effortlessly cut them up early on and 'somehow' has problems with the last handful. That's the pure, undiluted bullshit of prequel-era Darkhorse. This isn't a good representation of how the company did Vader, this is among the SHITTIEST art from the company and it exemplifies the really bad crap a la Nomi Sunrider.
>dougs art shit
>vader is challenged = horrible plot hole
Holy fuck could you be anymore a shill. I'm actually red in the face from embarrassment for you.
1/10 for making me reply
>>Why is he so misogynistic to Leia!
I have actually seen this. I saw someone on Twitter calling Empire Strikes Back the worst of the original trilogy because of the way Han makes advances on Leia against her will.
>Darth Talon could have been a villian but they removed her from the story.
Feelings this wrong can't be right but I love them.
We will never have a series or comic called Star Wars: Clones that deals with ex-Clone Troopers living as soldiers of fortune, hired to save various worlds and people from the naughty Stormtroopers of the Empire.
>implying that post implied anything of the kind
We already know Dave misappropriated funds from Rebels in the attempt to make his waifu real. Why do you think Maz wound up as CGI, the most impractical of effects JJ swore he'd never use? Because Dave stole the animatronic puppet body they'd originally made, then crammed a bunch of concept arts he turned into Inquisitors under his cowboy hat.
No biggie, I was just looking for an excuse to post a lame joke about why Maz was CG. The thought of Dave painting Maz orange and is making salty love to it right this moment is actually quite horrific.
Reminder that you're full of it.
Ahsoka actually offers herself to Maul body and soul in order to save Ezra. All ends in tears as Maul breaks down and admits that space legally he's actually married to pic related.
Please. Vader isn't "challenged" at all. The entire setup is horrendously aritficial and forced. He barely breaks a sweat killing half the room and then suddenly the writer realises "Oh fuck I derped" and shoehorns in that the final bosses are mysteriously more powerful than the rest of the jedi, whom they let get slaughtered earlier.
This is 100% crap, you inspid little troll. You can whine about "shilling" all you like, but this is literally on the level of Marvel. This is Dark Horse at its WORST.
Looks like the "stop liking what I don't like" brigade has arrived. If people happen to appreciate female Darth Maul and wouldn't mind spending seven minutes of non-canon sensuous tussling with her and then dealing with a lifetime of space STDs who are any of us to judge?
>"empire is xenophobic" thing come from anyway?
The EU. They saw that the Empire was human in the movies and decided they were all racist against aliens and created Human-High Culture. The funny part is when you see the rebellion is also mostly full of humans as well.
A combination of being generous and figuring most people's first time with a twi'lek female ends in the tragedy of trying to nuzzle the side of your heads together, taking her ear cone through your eye socket, and then she mistakes your twitching for the best foreplay of her life.
It's because the Empire like the First Order are all cats in disguise. MAUS was right!
>tfw they still haven't released the new cantina music
who are the biggest cucks in the Star wars "scene" and why is it the Star Wars HQ brothers?
No one cares about your vendetta against these two literally whos.
Hey, you end up surviving and she thinks you're some kind of god in the bedroom. That's a win win, mister, even if you have trouble remembering simple things like the alphabet and family members faces.
You are a fool. Death is part of the corporate process in Disney. The fact that you do not realize this is simply a subfact of your immaturity. One day, you will be an adult, and we will be having an adult conversation.
If he does his journey to the dark side will be complete.
He was seduced by the light once already, George wanted her dead in the clone wars but Filoni couldn't do it.
He's gonna have to make her death extra tragic now to get back in his masters good graces. Killing off the whole cast is probably how he plans to win back George's approval.
So what new bullshit are we going to get for VIII?
Novelty is important.
VII had Kylo's special sword and his blaster bolt freezing.
What're we going to see in VIII that's totally new?
I'm guessing a staff-saber for Rey and Luke doing something from TFU
Which was the position Anakin wanted to have in Ep 3? He was already a Jedi and was present in the circle reunion what there other position?
Luke fighting using only the force. Deflecting blaster fire and lightsaber attacks with his bare hands. I also want to see him as a pilot one more time.
You know nothing of the corporate world. Every last ounce of profit must be milked from this new acquisition, which will be thrown out onto the streets to whore if need be. Then, only when every last possible iota of value is milked, will Disney toss the shriveled husk into the gutter.
You, mere boy who pretends to be a man, know nothing. You mewl and whine because you need something you don't like destroyed. What a pointless waste. Disney, sitting in their fully armed and operational Epcot Center, have such grand plans for the largely untapped Grrl Power market.
Now get out of my site, you stunted slime. Back to reddit where you can fester and learn true hatred.
I just got home with pic related. Time to find out if buying it was worth it.
It probably wasn't.
Speaking of which, why the fuck did the council granted him a seat if they weren't about to give him the corresponding rank?
That seems so petty and intentionally spiteful.
Like, the PT gets shat on a lot for having so much pointless politics, but really, it needed a lot more if it was going to do what it seemed it wanted to do.
Like, they council was clearly against having Anakin be trained. If somehow we could see how they forced to accept him (like maybe there's a FAE that has an executive power) and then we could see how the council could be split enough to both grant him a seat and reject his ascension to Master.
Nope. Fully training a padawan isn't necessarily a guarantee of being elevated to Master either, though some people swear it is. It can be considered a sign you are ready but it's always the decision of the Council whether you advance or not.
>Luke fighting using only the force
You want another Yoda vs Dooku? besides Luke killing everyone with a lightsaber will be awesome
he'll probably jump and do backflips like in the PT
You think only that you are a part of the true whole. One day, as you fall, only then will you realize the true nets raveled around you soul. Maybe then will you understand the nature of profits, but I doubt it.
There's master and Master.
It's like how in the Navy, any one in control of a ship is called "Captain" by the crew, regardless of the actual rank of the officer.
So a Padawan always calls their instructor "master" even if that person is only a Knight.
Just like how the crew of a ship would call the officer in charge "Captain", even if that person is only a Lieutenant.
English is a fun language.
>Speaking of which, why the fuck did the council granted him a seat if they weren't about to give him the corresponding rank?
Because the Jedi were fucking idiots and I don't mean that to be insulting, I mean they were dumb as shit
>You want another Yoda vs Dooku
If that entire fight had been just them using the Force at each other, then yes
I expect to see some better choreography in the battles like in the PT. I prefer those better than the ones in the OT
It would be absolutely amazing if done right.
None of that bruteforce "I throw" stuff at you, and then we try to push each other down" stuff.
But like a martial artist flowing through combat.
Sliding around blaster bolts.
Giving a slight touch to knock them out.
Definetly. I don't get why so many people are down on the twirly lightsaber duels from the PT, they're fucking amazing. I mean, no, they're not realistic, but neither is shooting lightning out of your fingertips.
it always seemed weird to me, how the knights are still given the prefix 'master' regardless. Like a Padawan would be refered to as simply "Padawan _____" when being addressed, like Padawan Tano. But both Knights and Masters are given the title "Master ______" so you hear both "Master Windu" and "Master Skywalker" even though Skywalker is just a knight.
I think this might only go upwards though, like padawans, younglings, and outsiders from the order like clones would refer to a Knight like Anakin as Master, but actual Jedi Master might not? I don't recall. And I have no idea of a Knight would refer to another Knight as Master ______.
Any one else found retarded how the council gave Anakin a Padawan? All the Jedis except for Obi-Wan saw Anakin as a problem that didn't belong with them since the beginning in Ep1, Ep2 and Ep3. They never trusted him and they give him a Padawan? He was only 22 or younger. He wasn't wise as Obi-wan or the other Jedi members and was reckless and hotheaded. Lucas created Ashoka just to make a new Tv show, that Hack.
Ah, Ezra my dearest boy. You know absolutely nothing. For my ally is profit. And a powerful ally it is, ho-ho. Value creates it, makes it grow. Price tags surround us, bind us. Marketable beings are we, especially the crude matters! Just ask me about the Poor Little Sith Lord series sometime, lemme tell you. BUT...I digress. You must feel the profit around you. Here, between you, me, the tree, the rock, everywhere! Yes, even the land and the ship! My cousin owns a dealership and came make you quite the offer!
I like the twirly duels because it "accurately" represents a fight between two blades of no mass.
There is no weight to a lightsaber beyond the hilt.
For good or bad, twirly fights is something we need to accept.
It was one of the bad things about Jackson's Windu. He always swung that prop like it had weight. Which, if it was a real sword, would look fine. But it looked so out of place and clumsy compared to everyone else.
>The fight in TFA needed more crazy movements like in the PT
>Anakin must have known he needed to have trained a padawan to knighthood to become a Master
>still threw a hissyfit when he didnt get promoted
Anakin is a real little shit
Yoda hoped that it would teach Anakin a valuable lesson in letting go when his Padawan matured in the Force. This almost worked after Ahsoka was captured once and used her training to save herself (with some help from Chewbacca and friends). Then it boomeranged on them in the end, making Anakin even more clingier and emo that the galaxy wasn't treating him as he deserved to be.
Anakin was still a ridiculously advanced Jedi Knight. He had mastered lightsaber and force techniques in record time, and in terms of skill with the force and lightsaber he really was already at Jedi Master level by the time of TCW. They didn't trust him because they could sense that he was still spiritually incomplete and emotionally frustrated, and they were afraid of what he could do with his power. They gave him a padawan to try and calm him down, teach him responsibility and perhaps make him ultimately a wiser man.
Unfortunately, instead of Ahsoka's relatively more gentle, by-the-book nature rubbing off on Anakin, his reckless, brutal tactics rubbed off on her and then the whole ordeal with her leaving the Jedi order happened.
It was retarded, but so was many of the council's decisions (due to Sheev's literal retard field).
I think it was one of the things where everyone knows it's wrong but does it anyways because that's the "way it's done".
>Skywalker is a Knight in war time. He needs a Padawan to ensure that fallen Knights are replaced
>But he's a problem. We don't know if we can trust him.
>Is there any legitimate reason beyond emotion to why he shouldn't have a Padawan? No? Ok, assign Skywalker a Padawan.
I'm so glad George is spending some of his Disney billions to make pic related a reality.
>He had mastered lightsaber and force techniques in record time
None of that matters, you can suck at that and still be a Jedi Master. And Anakin was frequently put in his place by Masters throughout TCW.
>I like the twirly duels because it "accurately" represents a fight between two blades of no mass.
Not just that, but a fight between mildly precogniscent people. Jedi can see a few moments or so into the future, and a well trained Jedi knows how a move ends before it even actually starts. Every swing isn't necessarily an actual thrust at the enemy, it's like a rehearsed dance they have to get through, trying to plan enough moves ahead that they can trap their opponent with no way out, or surprise them. It's like speed chess.
It'll undo what how Lucas butchered Yoda.
A true master Jedi should see physical combat as distasteful and unnecessary.
Only beings are connected to the Force. To harm others is to farm yourself.
While sometimes violence serves a greater purpose and people sometimes need to die, but it should always be regretful.
They cut the part out about the Chancellor being granted some power directly over the Jedi which is how Sheev was able to even appoint Anakin as his "personal representative" in the first place. The Jedi, needless to say, were less than pleased.
The PT's style of lightsaber fights was liked up until AOTC. Along with everything else wrong with that movie, it has literally the worst fight with Obi and Anakin against Dooku. And after the Yoda thing, it started to get a little ridiculous. Then ROTS comes along and the fight that started out as a lightsaber fight becomes a spectacle of look how cool this lava is
Oh and Grievous. Obi vs. Grievous was good for its banter, not so much the fighting
MACE: Anakin Skywalker, we have approved your appointment to the Council as the Chancellor's personal representative.
ANAKIN: I will do my best to uphold the principles of the Jedi Order.
YODA: Allow this appointment lightly, the Council does not. Disturbing is this move by Chancellor Palpatine.
ANAKIN: I understand.
MACE: You are on this Council, but we do not grant you the rank of Master.
It's literally said
You misread the post which was about why the Chancellor even had the authority to appoint anyone in the first place. This, as well as the other political maneuvering such as the formation of the regional governors, was cut.
Why does Sheev get a "personal representative"?
Why not before?
The war was winding down then.
Did Valorum have a "personal representative"?
What power did the Senate even have over the Jedi?
The whole Jedi Civil War came down to the Jedi Council saying "No" to helping the Republic
The whole thing was Palpatine fucking with the Jedi right before his endgame. Technically the Jedi had involved themselves in Republic affairs since they were generals, why shouldn't it go both ways? If the Jedi had tried to fight it, well, they didn't want the showdown, not when they felt the war was so near it's end. It was also his way of goading them into what they did, which was send Jedi to make him give up those powers his office had been acquiring.
Basically boils down to "sheev schemes" and him being a bitch for shits and giggles but also furthering his endgame.
Because he's the fucking Supreme Leader of the Galactic army and most powerful person in the galaxy
And also, I think the Jedi still had the last say in it
>MACE: ... we have approved
This would imply that the Supreme Chancellor could not simply appoint a Jedi to the Council without the Council's consent. A lot of the relationships between the Chancellor's Office, the Senate and the Jedi Order was unprecedented during the Clone Wars. They had never had to work together so closely before - they had to be united against a (perceived) exterior enemy, the Separatists, so much of what happened was unorthodox but all taken in the name of security.
The Council only "allowed" it in order to try to figure out Palpatines plans. They didn't like Anakins relationship with the Chancellor but they assumed Anakin would remain loyal to the Jedi and report on anything suspicious.
Because the Jedi were serving as generals and commanders in the army of the Republic so Palp and would need to be kept on the up-and-up about their decisions and movements concerning the war. I don't know what his excuse was for waiting for so late into the war to try to get one but I'd say it was due to the failings of the Jedi so many times and the attack on Coruscant was the last straw.
Indeed. Very crucial moment, this is where Palpatine really takes it up a level.
- Firstly, as a direct representative of Palpatine, Anakin is his right-hand man, and one step closer to being Palpatine’s apprentice.
- Secondly, it drives a much intended wedge between Anakin/Palpatine and the Jedi, who are already rightfully suspicious. Psychologically, the Jedi are going to further see Anakin as not truly one of them, and Anakin will sense this, adding to his feeling of isolation.
- Thirdly, he is conveniently using Anakin to spy on his sworn enemy, and knows the Jedi will ask the same of Anakin in return – “I think they will (accept Anakin onto the Council)...”.
- And finally, even though he is asking Anakin to do exactly the same thing as the Jedi will from the other side, Palpatine’s actions comes across as generous and fatherly - seeming to grant Anakin Mastership - which he probably knew the Jedi wouldn’t give Anakin anyway. With the Jedi on the other hand, asking him to spy (through Obi-Wan) is seen as a betrayal and an insult. They appear colder than Palpatine, even though Palpatine is creating this situation on purpose, and the Jedi actually care about Anakin more than Palpatine does – OBI-WAN: “Anakin, I am on your side, I didn’t want to put you in this situation.”
Palpatine’s final line is quite ominous... “They need you... more than you know.” A hint at Palpatine’s true opinion... of course foreshadowing that the Jedi’s own chosen one will tragically become their greatest enemy. The musical transition to the Council spire scene is done perfectly.
If you'd watched the movies and tv show you'd know that Jedi affairs are separate. They have autonomy. This power grab over them troubled them deeply, they say so. Windu's approval is about Anakin specifically and says nothing about whether they could resist having a personal representative appointed at all. We don't know what a confrontation over rejection would have been like since they capitulated.
This is an interesting scene because we don't know who's morally right.
The Jedi mean well but are wrong in their dogmatism. Anakin is right on the issue, but wrong in meaning.
He's right in that he's overdue for praise. He's a volunteer who is one of the most skilled Jedi.
The Jedi are right in putting this egomaniac in check, but that's ALL they do. They never point out they're in his debt.
Anakin basically has no honor given. He's told to sit like a little puppy, and Anakin just bullshits them right back. Instead of venting his frustration out in the open, the Jedi preferred fake courtesy. So Anakin gives it to them, seethes in the background with his grievances, and then goes AWOL.
That do-gooder society really fucked up on his issues.
It's just a fiction full of plot holes, but you can see the basic dynamics. It's basic negotiation. Anakin has really simple and meetable demands.
1. His mother safe, free and protected.
2. A relationship with Padme.
3. A title befitting his skills and contributions.
Have him dishonorably discharged from the Jedi order. Give him the rank of "knight". In the same way Boba Fett works freelance for the empire on occasion without being an imperial soldier, Anakin could be likewise.
Maintaining a relationship with non-Jedi is important.
The way Anakin was handled was one monumental fuck-up due to their "one size fits all" approach. The "no attachment" philosophy clearly isn't for him.
Do you guys hope that the RPG, possibly open world "Star Wars" game will be any good? I would love to have the option to choose to be a jedi, sith, smuggler, or a bounty hunter and follow your own path and also create a legacy with your own character.
What happened to her? Was she executed by the Republic? Did she escape? Did she die in Order 66? Will we ever know?
>Anakin has really simple and meetable demands.
>1. His mother safe, free and protected.
>2. A relationship with Padme.
>3. A title befitting his skills and contributions.
>Have him dishonorably discharged from the Jedi order. Give him the rank of "knight". In the same way Boba Fett works freelance for the empire on occasion without being an imperial soldier, Anakin could be likewise.
But see, this misses a key point for Anakin. Anakin wasn't content to just be happy and left to his own devices. It wasn't just about pride. Anakin was obsessed with helping people and solving problems, and truly believed himself to be the chosen one, that it was his destiny, his birthright, to save the entire Galaxy. In his eyes, he should be powerful enough to save absolutely anyone from anything, and the council was holding him back and not letting him reach his full potential because they were scared of him and what he could do, which was, well, true.
If Qui-Gon had been able to teach him, or the council just had as much faith in Anakin as Qui-Gon had, that whole ordeal might have been averted. Really Sheev's plan hinged on driving mistrust between the council and Anakin, so that they wouldn't let him reach the full potential he so desperately craved, and he would be forced to seek power elsewhere.
>which was, well, true.
Absolutely not. No one was holding Anakin back, there was no mysterious knowledge that the council was shielding from him. And it would be years before Anakin would be at Yoda or even Mace Windu's level.
Did Anakin know about the prophecy? Seems like if he did, the council should have realised that raising him with that knowledge is a surefire way to give him a raging superiority complex.
>Qui-Gon doesn't show up as a physical being as a ghost because he's unable to not look like this
You mean Jade Raymond, right?
Also, we're in the Star Wars game Dark Ages.
All games will be as accessible to as many people as possible due to Star Wars fever.
Look at poor Battlefront
Some people at the time held out hope that basically Palpatine gave her an ultimatum: do what he says or Ahsoka dies. It's why she does some of the stupid shit like keep the sabers and also why she gives this speech that basically can be used to ruin the Jedi after Order 66.
Of course the problem with the theory is Ahoska was being put on trial for her life. A fix for this is Sidious promised that he would commute her sentence and present it as an "act of good faith" to the Jedi. Some people were expecting he was going to pardon her anyway as a means to ingratiate himself to Anakin but that didn't happen either.
Basically it was just the usual fan talk. Interesting, but nothing concrete.
I just want an open world sandbox action/RPG with lots of exploration, several diverse playable races (including droids), and the ability to work for either the Rebels or the Empire. Stealth/subterfuge options a plus. Preferably little-to-no space combat, leave that to the proper flight sims.
The council openly said numerous times that they didn't trust Anakin and were afraid of what he could do with his power from day 1, constantly resisted his training and advancement, going so far as to refuse to grant him the rank of master and it's privileges despite putting him on the council, and essentially giving him no actual authority, using him only as a spy who answered to them.
I'll check it out later. I hope that if there are multiple playable races, you aren't restricted to humans and near-humans like twi'leks and such, and can choose things like Trandoshans and Ithorians.
Obi-Wan and Yoda hoped having a student would help Anakin become more responsible and learn to let go. When Ahsoka was believed to be dead in that Trandoshan hunters arc, Anakin grieved but tried to move on so it almost worked. The issues with Padme were way more complicated and Palpatine playing the devil on Anakin's shoulder didn't help.
Mechanically, it's pretty close, yes. But I want a more "modern" Star Wars. Clone Wars, Imperial Era, New Republic...
Preferably something with proper astromechs to sate my obsession.
>The council openly said numerous times that they didn't trust Anakin and were afraid of what he could do with his power from day 1
They never said they were afraid of his powers. That's not how the Force works. They were distrustful of him, though. And they resisted his training because he was older than usual was REALLY a knucklehead.
It has some pretty cool stuff in it. It's split up into sections that cover characters, locations, technology, and vehicles so it's nice for what I'm planning on using it for
to help my friend DM Star Wars themed D&Dbut you can find most of this stuff on Wookiepedia without spending $40. Still, some of the behind the scenes stuff and pictures are nice.
This, the only way Anakin was "damgerous" when he was younger was in the risk of training him.
Since he was so old, and had such a connection to his mother, he was less capable of being molded by Jedi teachings.
Not that getting kids younger had helped them in the past from stopping them from going to the dark side.
what planets do you want to see more of in Rebels and the upcoming movies?
and why is it Quarzite?
Just had a minor bit of a realization.
Hera and her team have been going by codenames on missions, to avoid letting the enemy know their actual identities. The code names they use are Specter, with a number for each member. The ship is The Ghost, with the smaller ship being The Phantom.
Now, they've joined up with a larger rebel group. Things are more than just their little cell. A new life and greater cause.
And Hera becomes the leader of Phoenix Squadron.
Just a nifty little death-to-life cycle there...
Thanks anon. I was playing SWTOR just the other day hoping for something like this.
Hollowed it out and turned it into
>Why there are so many people talking about Maul being in season 2?
Because he's in the trailer.
>Can rebels even do justice to him? I think the whole show is too light toned for Maul's edge.
Can't stall the Maul.
Starkiller Base is located deep within the Unknown Regions. The Unknown Regions IS also where Ilum is located, but we don't really know where.
Really makes you wonder why they're called the Unknown Regions at all.
I always thought they were called the unknown regions since they're probably the least explored region of space in the galaxy. Especially since it's a pretty large area of space and the most we know about it is enough planets to count on one hand
Core Worlds, Hutt Space, and the Outer Rim everybody knows about and what planets lie within those regions. But barely anyone explores, let alone goes, to the Unknown Regions
Even in myth there's always a core of truth that instigated people creating the myth in the first place. A big flood happens, for example, and so people start telling stories about that flood, until it reaches mythical proportions.
Which in this case is probably referring to myths regarding wherever the sith holocron is located.
Well, they're probably going to show him as a withered, half-mad bionic old fool, the Nightsister magic keeping him alive, healthy and sane having lone vanished leaving him almost as atrophied and weary as he was when he had spider legs. Worst case scenario is he's only in one episode before he dies and just comes off as a crazy fool whose best days are 30 years and an organic lower body behind him. Best case is he becomes the show's littlefinger, manipulating the rebels and the Inquisitors from the shadows, building his own little dark side faction to undermine Sheev and potentially heave him. Maybe insert himself as a secret trickster mentor to the Inquisitors outside of Vader's notice, and try to pull Ezra away from the light. There's a lot of potential to make him interesting without making him edgy, but given the show's track record I'm not entirely sure they'll do him justice.
But look at it this way, he's already on borrowed time since Phantom Menace. Anything they do with him at this point will probably be watchable.
Even more pottery:
S1 finale is called "Fire Across the Galaxy". Phoenixes die in a burst of flames and are reborn in the ashes.
The Ghost crew had to rescue Kanan and damaged a Star Destroyer, causing it to explode and engulf in flames.
They escaped the ship as it began turning to ashes, but would've been shot and killed by the other Star Desteoyers, but were rescued. They then were "reborn" when they joined the larger Rebel Cell with a "Phoenix Squadron".
It's not its just a dumb theory since SB is close to where Ilum was on the old, noncanon galaxy maps. Ilum doesn't look like SB other than being a snow/ice world.
Ilum is a vegetation free frozen wasteland with huge ice spikes jutting out and snow everywhere.
Starkiller base is a foresty taiga wih mountains.
>Why there are so many people talking about Maul being in season 2?
Because hes in the new trailer for the second half.
>Can rebels even do justice to him? I think the whole show is too light tond for Maul's edge.
Like the time they showed a dead Jedi Master from TCW as a dried out corpse, or the time Tarkin beheaded the bumbling, lovable imperials, or the time Tua got exploded in a shuttle, or when Tarkintown was given the scorched earth treatment and its citizens enslaved(unless Kanan was just lying to Ezra to hide the truth). Or the time Vader nearly made Ezra decapitate himself. Or how the rebels have lost most of their ships and fighters.
Because they're uncharted and dangerous.
>Stormtrooper kit won't ship until March
Almost a year after I pre-ordered it
Knowing the location of one planet in one system in one cluster does not make the space "charted."
It's Unknown Space because, like our own Ocean, only a fraction of it is charted or explored.
>Ilum is a vegetation free frozen wasteland with huge ice spikes jutting out and snow everywhere.
Well obviously the parts of Starkiller Base explored in the movie were the Canada Region. If Stargate has taught me anything it's that all planets have a Canada. Well known fact, eh?
Yeah, it's very good. I enjoyed it alot. The Vader and Sheev scenes are brilliant. BUT, the main focus is actually about the Twilek resistance hunting them. So they are more frequent in the chapters, but don't let that put you off.
I loved it, one of my favorite Star Wars books. And there's plenty of Vader/Sheev action. And a lot of sweating Imperials and Twi'leks having nervous breakdowns.
The entire situation is a complete mess, the only person enjoying himself is Sheev.
Assuming that the Jedi just happened to luck into their most sacred world in the Unknown Region and decided, "Whelp, no need to look around any more," is not only naive but asinine.
>he's already on borrowed time since Phantom Menace
While this is true it doesn't mean his stories can't be good. IMO his shenanigans with the madalorians on TCW were far more interesting than anything else they ever did with him.
Yeah definitely. Was the point I was trying to make. He had no real importance in Phantom Menace, and while I'm still not 100% happy that he came back at all, his stories have finally given him an actual character, so anything more they do with him at this point will probably be interesting.
Oh, well that's why I asked. Anyway, if you're the type of person that can focus on your workout and watch TV at the same time, it's worth giving it a shot. Seasons 1 and 2 have some decent episodes in them, but Season 3 is where it gets going.
>Love the Jedi Starfighter from The Clone Wars Movie
>Watch the show recently and feel like nabbing a toy of that version of the Starfighter
>The toy looks like a completely different Starfighter
What the hell? The toy based on the movie version looks the same, even with the proportion changes, yet the tv show version looks so different that it makes you wonder if they even tried.
The Jedi of old were explorers and travelled the entire galaxy, spending ages away from their primary temple. It's why they maintained satellite temples on worlds like Lothal. This is canon, btw, not speculation. The Jedi kept extensive records that were stored back in their Archives. This is why Jocasta Nu believed that if a world did not appear in their records it did not exist.
Jedi records, however, were obviously not for the mundanes of the galaxy. What is the Unknown Region to them very likely actually contains the first Jedi Temple, after all.
Pictures? There's different versions of the Starfighters depending which part of the war is taking place, and each Jedi may have a slightly different design and paintjob.
I personally love Plo Koons.
>Trust Nobody, Not Even Yourself - Season 7, Episode 1
I'm afraid they will make him like a whole new character, a calm and calculating sith master, so we will have three completely different personalities for Maul in the new canon, the silent assassin on TPM, the rage powered beast with a hate boner for Obi Wan on TCW and whatever Rebels will do with him. Poor Maul can't settle for anything
I can see that for the others, but for Ahsoka, yeah, at Vader's hand. It's star wars and it's pottery. He kills both his master and his apprentice and thus thinks he's finally done with Anakin Skywalker, except, oops, suddenly Luke.
Characters can't change over time? He was trying to be a calculating master like Sheev in TCW already, until the real Sheev to him back in his place that is.
Maul is to Sheev as Kylo is to Vader, he trys his best to be like his hero but he just can't pull it off.
Did Maul know who Sheev really was btw? Dooku did so I would think so. He may not know Sheev's plan worked though and he's Emporer now, if he's been hanging out in an old temple all this time I wouldn't expect him to get much news.
Honestly, that's a good thing. It can trick the audience into thinking he's getting real character development and learning lessons. He starts off the dutiful, obedient assassin in TPM, then immediately gets tossed in the garbage and hates Obi-Wan with a passion while trying to undermine Sheev and/or get back in his good graces. He's become aimless and savage, and almost knowingly allows Talzin to manipulate him for her own ends as long as he gets to kill Kenobi and become powerful again. Now, we might get him as a cold, calculating schemer, having learned his lesson from TCW that Sheev is too powerful to take on, especially without Talzin helping him, and that if he wants to feel powerful again, he'll have to make it on his own instead of inheriting it from Sheev. But who knows, Rebels might just be jerking us around and we might see the big red machine from TCW again.
Because the Jedi are under the jurisdiction of the Senate, whose leader is the Supreme Chancellor, who at the time was Palpatine. The Jedi Order was only relatively autonomous. When it came down to hirarchy, the Order answered to the Senate.
And Palpatine -was- the Senate. He remarks upon this to Mace in the recent first issue to Obi-Wan & Anakin, where he offers to take Anakin under his wing, very snidely insisting and pulling rank on Mace in the process. Mace relents and allows it.
Yep. Knew all about the coming plan, too, and was obviously instructed in the craft of empire building. He wasn't a dupe or a stupid animal/attack dog, he was all part of the plan
until he failed. Then Sheev merely schemed supreme to replace him. Dooku wasn't a bad choice.
>And Palpatine -was- the Senate.
Mace Windu: "Not yet."
The Jedi serve the Senate by choice, not by charter or decree. They placed themselves as humble servants, but it's a different matter. Sheev's intrusion into their internal politics was neither routine business or appreciated, but fighting it would have been a distraction just as they were nearly done with the war. As for Anakin and Obi-Wan issue, Mace turned down the offer. There was no "pulling rank".
Took a bit since I wanted to find them in similar angles. Here's the first version, and the first Hasbro toy.
Obviously Sheev's schemes were too supreme to be stopped by a little thing like a dead apprentice, but I do wonder did he always intend to get rid of Maul?
I'm sure at the very least he was always very much aware of the possibility of needing a replacement I mean when you're Sheev you probably get used to everyone around you being disappointing incompetent fools, you know you're gonna need replacements.
Dooku was the perfect choice, being a statesman and all. Maul would have been not much different from how we saw him in TCW, the tall, dark and intimidating enforcer and shadow government. He wasn't much for political saavy and didn't have nearly thevsilver tongue of Dooku, but he knew the ropes.
he kind of does? The Jedi pick their battles.
I would like to learn more about this.
Does the Jedi order predate the republic? How exactly did they're clone wars era relationship come about? What exactly were the terms of their relationship?
Couldn't find them in the same angle, but here's a comparison.
Is it wrong for me to want to see Luke use his lightsaber?
I mean, of course I want to see him show his absolute mastery of the Force, but I REALLY want to see him slice a few guys with that.
Yeah, there was. Mace objected to it at first, but Palpatine did point out that the Jedi were under the jurisdiction of the Senate, and given Palpatine was its leader, he had a bit more clout in making personal requests of the Order. Only after that did Mace submit to the "offer".
In the old canon, the Ruusan Reformation was a major political event that dicated the relationship of the jedi with the republic.
>the Jedi Order underwent a significant adjustment. In symbolic measures, largely to convince the Republic that they would not become a conquering army, the Jedi abandoned their battle armor, renounced all military ranks (such as "Jedi Lord"), dissolved their commander-in-chief, disbanded their army, naval and starfighter forces, and placed themselves under the supervision of the Supreme Chancellor and the Judicial Department, effectively dissolving the Military. In order to lessen the chance of a Sith resurgence, the Order began training children from birth. In addition, the training of Padawans was centralized on Coruscant, to remove the danger of unsupervised students delving into forbidden Sith knowledge.
Short Answer: We don't know yet since the Nucanon.
Long Answer: The Jedi almost certainly predate the Republic, as the Republic as only been around for 1000 years, and before that there was a "Sith Empire" that the Jedi had fought.
I was honestly expecting a cool flashback scene at Luke's academy where he's running around slashing the Knights of Ren down trying to save his students. It would have been cool as fuck.
There was an Old Republic before the Galactic Republic, anon. The Galactic Republic is a recent development, hence its being in existence a thousand years. Canon history goes back much further than the Galactic Republic's instatement.
Good question. Probably? They certainly predate the incarnation that existed during the Prequels, which was a reformation after the end of the Sith/Jedi conflicts when the Sith were perceived as dead.
As for pic related >>79131113 it's a good question how autonomous the Jedi are, as we see them countermand the Chancellor before. They recalled Sifo-Dyas from a mission given to him by Chancellor Vallorum personally (with the Chancellor's personal aide present no less!) and diverted them from the Pike Syndicate to Felucia (although Sifo-Dyas was Dooku'd before he got there). The Jedi also ignored the order to first bring Tup's chip to the Chancellor before shenanigans interceded. Palpatine also relents to the Jedi at several points when Yoda tells them their mind is made up on certain matters. The Jedi Temple bombing shows some of the issues between them as well. The Jedi police their own membership, even over the Senate, and tend to handle their own internal matters without Senate oversight or bothering to report matters. They also withhold information, but that can be considered non-official decisions between Yoda and Mace whether to tell the Senate their powers were diminished.
Frankly it's never well defined, and that's probably for the best. Palpatine does love pushing buttons and they have to be careful how much friction they have with the Chancellor. If they ever say "no" they better have a damn good reason then Mace saying he found the request "cheeky" or something else to that effect of course.
Ki-Adi Mundi: Alright guys, we've just got a little more to go!
Clones: We're with you all the way general!
[Order 66 intensifies]
If you look closely you can see the exact moment his heart rips in half
I mean the Galactic Republic, as I assumed the anon I was responding to. Anything older than that is, for the purposes of their question, a different government entity.
Again, we don't know. The Sith Empire, The Old Republic, The Hutt Cartels, The Mandolorians, all probably had huge chunks of the galaxy under their control at some point, but all we know is 1000 years before the movies the Galactic Republic we know was formed.
It was The Old Republic. The biggest difference is that the Jedi underwent a sort of disarmament after the end of the last Sith war
the one bane survivedBefore the Reformations Jedi could hold office and in-fact there had been Jedi supreme chancellors. They also had a standing independent army (The Army of light) which had to be disbanded to comply with the reformations.
I'd be surprised if he didn't. Hamill had been saying he was a little jealous of the Prequel Jedi and how they were trained to an extent as to wield the lightsaber as virtually weightless.
Though I personally would like to see them accomodate Hamill's age and Luke's stature by giving him a really advanced form of Kendo or Iaido. I love Prequel fights, but just ss the fights we saw in Episode VII were very different and rough around the edges compared to the two trilogies before it, Luke should ideally bring something new to the table. Kendi/Iaijutsu would be perfect in its being the ultimate expression of restraint and perfection of form especially for one trained in a relativelyvunorthodox way as Luke. Perfect development from what wesee him do in V and VI
>They recalled Sifo-Dyas from a mission given to him by Chancellor Vallorum personally (with the Chancellor's personal aide present no less!) and diverted them from the Pike Syndicate to Felucia (although Sifo-Dyas was Dooku'd before he got there).
It's also possible that Vallorum knew about and agreed to that shift in mission, since he was aware of it.
They had a good artist working on the issue.
It still bothers me he got shot down so easily when every other media tells us he's the best pilot in the order, and he's using a very fast interceptor while the guys behind him were using bombers.
Maybe their like the CIA. I always thought it was weird hearing that the Senate was investigating the CIA and they were interfering with the investigation.
Then I read more about it and found out they're pretty much an independent organization. All they have to do is "advise senior policy makers of forigen threats to the US" but its totally up to them what constitutes a threat and who they feel is a senior policy maker. They can pretty much say or not say whatever they want.
The Jedi are probably technically part of the republic but with considerable independence. Its probably like a "hey we're not evil so we won't hurt you but don't fuck with our stuff, we were here before you and we're magic" kind of relationship.
It'll be three years in a month.
It still hurts, /swr/.
Well, there's the stipulations about the CIA not engaging in activities on US soil, but those have gotten...very grey area after the War on Terror. After that, yeah, the CIA could do what they wanted. US law tends to stop at the borders, after all. Who cares what they do to foreigners, even allies?
Different anon. I recommend downloading Tarkin and going through it. I use Calibre, handy for searching the document without having to read it all. Anyway the novel details SOME of the reformation of the Republic and how things were at that time. As for TOR or any of that, I really have no clue. As far as I know the Tarkin novel is as far back as anyone has bothered to officially go beyond the minor references to the dark saber and Ahsoka's gear, etc. Oh, and the old Mandalorian crusader helmet that appeared.
Exactly. Which has nothing to do with older governments, the Jedi, or any of the Ruuson story.
One ship (thats not even the actual hammerhead from the era) does not validate anything else.
Again thats my point. That other anon's using legends stuff and saying its still canon...when it isn't.
Speaking of the old republic and canon stuff, an anon said in an older thread that the republic from the clone wars era is only around 1000 years old in nucanon compared to the 25000 from legends. Before that there was a seperate old republic entity. Whats the diference?
>The Mandalorian wars
>Sacking of corsuscant
the list goes on...
Who is looking foward to tomorrows episode?
Finally we'll bicth about something else instead of TFA or the Prequels.
Sheev tends not to waste resources. A potential Dark Jedi recruit is useful. Her testimony sure as hell was.
People have been wanting her to show up as an Inquisitor so damn bad, which IS a big odd given she's far more trained than they are. Letting her run around with guys not meant to be fully versed in the Force could be dangerous if she gets ambitious, but it's possible. Some people think the new mystery Inquisitor is her.
Personally the Emperor's Hand program makes more sense if they ever decide to reinstate it. Those were pretty much Imperial versions of Ventress.
Whatever they decide I can imagine Filoni bringing her back and revealing that she is the one who personally caught Luminara and was present at her execution. Twisting the knife handle long after he's already stabbed people in the heart would be just like him.
>Its Ashokas fault that he never became a Master.
yeah, but from the cinematics on the utapau arc, we saw that Anakin blamed the council for her leaving. So in turn, when they screw him out of the title of master, he can look back at the idea that they drove his padawan away before she could achieve knighthood, thus screwing him over.
>Again thats my point. That other anon's using legends stuff and saying its still canon...when it isn't
You were talking about canon as if you didn't know the time period, I was just offering the most complete source I was aware of. Trying to be helpful.
What I read is basically that certain things are discouraged like operations on US soil but its largely left to their discretion.
The only thing they explicitly cannot do is make an arrest or charge someone with a crime. They have 0 police authority.
They can kidnap though, just no arrests.
A lot of the limitations on organizational jurisdiction, which lead to squabbling between the FBI, local law enforcement, the CIA, the DEA, etc etc, were removed. It was supposed to allow them to share information better and catch those nasty trrists, but has, people being people, lead to abuses of power. Crap like the stingray machines, etc.
Pretty off topic except for how some of this interestingly mirrors the rise of the Empire.
The risk/reward ratio probably isn't enough for Sheev to bother with her. While she represents a useful asset, she's by no means a unique one and is definitely unstable.
Sheev uses the tools in front of him, but he's well aware that she's a potential spanner in his works; not a threat, but still enough to seriously annoy him if she went off the rails.
She's well trained enough that individual Inquisitors wouldn't be enough to bring her in, meaning that he'd have to risk a group of them getting wiped out, send Vader or go himself if she went rogue.
Of course he is! And also new canon. Just like TCWs is Legends too! But also new canon. They are but they aren't. It's all a certain point of view.
Not -totally- being cheeky, in some ways TCWs is Legends, or rather still build into their canon. Just like how Legends also shares the movie canon events.
Sounds more like anything Star Wars in general, not just Rebels.
>So all things EU are non-canon until we are told otherwise.
From a certain point of view
Not really seeing eye to eye with you at all. He has no problem saving things and doing risky shit, like engineering Bane invading the Jedi Temple for a holocron. Steals some babies for brain experimentation but if he has to dump them into lava who cares? No real loss to him.
Similarly the Zilllo Beast being moved to Coruscant was a huge risk (and an excuse plot for King Kong/Godzilla in the capital of the Republic) but even after it dies he wants to CLONE it.
Keeping her in jail until after he declares Empire and then breaking her as a pet project is pure Sheev. As far as her training goes Inquisitors can kill Jedi. They just don't have all the tricks and certainly not the secrets, which limits their danger potential.
At any rate recall that the Emperor has no problem with Dark Jedi allies. This surely isn't referring to Vader who stopped being a Jedi and became full Sith. They don't consider Dooku a Dark Jedi either.
>From the only point of view that matters.
The rule of Two was in TPM later attributed to him by the EU.
And? He still has stories about him which are Legends only. There's huge swaths of overlap between them.
No huge surprise. Recall that Legends canon is like a goddamn onion. It even has it's own apocrypha.
Thing is though that he no longer has a reason to risk things for a greater reward; he's already won.
During other times he's pulled things like that, he tends to at least have a rapid contingency plan to cover any fallout. If Bariss got recruited, she has every opportunity to go on an irritating rampage unless watched over constantly, which would defeat the point of having her
Not fully. Plus he still has no problem experimenting for shits and giggles. That's the whole thing with Doctor Cylo and his quirky cyborg faux Force squad. Then there are all the crazy things he had in that ship full of Sith artifacts complete with mutant red guard and some kind of mind control device.
Then there's gambits like what they pulled with Luminara's corpse, the whole traitorous Senator-in-Exile, letting that Hutt keep a vast collection of Jedi relics and inserting an agent as his slave gladiator. Oh, and the secret deal to buy banned weaponry behind the Senate's back.
Sheev does all kinds of risky shit of varying usefulness.It's his most consistent trait in a way. He's just as much a gambler as Lando but typically even better at manipulating the game.
I wouldn't really call any of those risks; It may have looked like they could go wrong, but Sheev had stacked the deck from the start.
No matter what happened in any of those scenarios, he either won or lost nothing.
Though I suppose the snowflake brigade in the Vader comic could have simply gone batshit insane and wrecked the place, but they're still confined to one area if they had
Its been a long time since i got Hype for a Cartoon series. I think the last one was Korra and it ended bad.
>"Never give up hope, no matter how dark things seem."
This is a great quote to go by, so is this one.
>"The first step in fixing a mistake, is admitting you made one in the first place."
The problem is you're assuming she just becomes a risk or goes rogue. That's possible you act like it's a given when it's hardly that. They could easily just have her be full evil and totally loyal to Sheev.
Because they can do anything with her they want. They can make her an Inquisitor, an Emperor Hand, a Sith Assassin, or even go pic related. Assuming she'll for some reason go rogue is just as silly as someone swearing Barriss meeting Ahsoka has to end in redemption and lesbian sex. It could, but it could not.
You don't see those things as risks because you assume Sheev has control over the situation. Why would you then assume he couldn't have a handle on Barriss? They know how to break Jedi, after all. What makes her special? Why assume he can't sense when she's going to do what he says or if she goes rogue he won't just hop in a shuttle and do to her something that makes what he did to Maul and Savage look like a love tap?
They control the plot. They control the horizontal and the vertical. They can do whatever they want. Assuming any plot is off the table is a mistake, just as bad as assuming you know exactly what they'll do. That's a general "you" that applies to all of us.
Master Filoni and his team are fully capable of surprising us and have a proven track record of making even improbable plots acceptable. Recall how people recoiled at the thought of Maul surviving. The end result seems generally acceptable.
Because Bariss is legitimately unhinged, has a history of wild personality changes and hasn't the anchor that other characters have in order to be loyal.
The Inquisitors were given everything they have by Vader, Vader himself has good reasons for Sheev to take his loyalty for granted, but Bariss doesn't.
Though I suppose he could pull the old Sheev Squeeze and convinces her that it's all thanks to him that the war ended, and that he's the reason she's got a second chance at it all
>every other media tells us he's the best pilot in the order
Except that Anakin is the best pilot in the history of the galaxy.