Make him Sherlock meets Batman and have him take the mantle for a year or so, just long enough for people to like him when they throw him back into Red Robin again, (or change his mantle to Redwing, which is a lot cooler.)
>>79122576 >he doesn't need to be punching things Or at least, he doesn't need to open with punching things. There had better be a damn good reason for three issues to go by without Tim decking some criminal in the face.
>>79123292 OH, I gotchu now, senpai. I really like that idea. It's actually not that far off from Snyder's vision of Batman and Gotham. yfw Snyder writes a new Red Robin ongoing starring Tim and Cass. The main villain is the Joker.
>>79123378 If it were Tim, Cass, Steph, some of the cast of We Are Robin, Damian, Harper, and maybe a rotating member or two, then have stories referencing things in Gotham Academy we could have a pretty fun Bat Titans type book.
>>79124089 A lot of this. Tim was best when he was fun, mostly cheery, and a little bit awkward about his position as Robin. He knew he was doing the right thing, but he didn't want to be in those shoes forever. That's not to say that he shouldn't have matured with time, but the direction he went was a bad one. A direction Willingham started and Beechen solidified.
>>79122252 Well Dick, Damian, and Babs and their books can survive without needing Batman to hold their hand. So get rid of those, and let Tim, Jason, and one of the three teenage girls they just let into the batfamily take their places.
>>79122252 Make him the star of Detective Comics and permanently remove him from the Teen Titans.
Firmly ground him as a detective with excellent analytical skills and a total Batman fanboy, but make clear he isn't a tech genius and a subpar fighter by Robin standards, using his staff to pick up the slack.
Give him Kon as his only superhero supporting cast, and move him to a town far away from Gotham.
Reestablish contact with his parents and make them a part of his life instead of backstory.
Make his comics about him developing as a hero and becoming the world's next great detective. Team-up issues with other DC detectives like Detective Chimp, The Question, and so on.
Give him his own rogues gallery instead of just Batman's, or worse, fucking Harvest.
Move him out of Gotham. Maybe to not-San Fran so he can explore his bisexuality. Establish a new supporting cast for him that includes a not shit Kon Have him open a detective agency while maybe also working as a computer tech as a side gig Make him a general superhero fanboy, think Prodigy from X-Men in that regard, except without the learning by seeing
>>79125194 I think the timeline needs to move past it's current point to be significant, in times of Bruce's absence Tim becomes much more prominent and a better character typically. Tim is going to make a good mentor one day when Bruce isn't around. I've always favored the idea of Tim being Carrie's Batman when she's Robin in the main continuity. Tim should be Obi-Wan levels of pure.
>>79125370 This so much. DC shoul just have a book called "Batfamily" where they put all the Bat related who can't carry their own ongoing. Also considering these characters have different backgrounds and skills the book would grant a lot of freedom to the writer, allowing for detective stories, supernatural or simply slice of life. The only problem would be finding someone good at dialogue and who knows the Batfamily interactions history, but this shouldn't be too hard
>>79123462 >>79125586 Tim and Babs training Bluebird, some of the WaR crew, Spoiler, Cass, and occasionally someone like Gordon or Bruce or Jason or Supes shows up for the new guys to fawn over and be a substitute teacher, each substitute teaching a new crucial lesson ala Avengers Academy.
I honestly don't know what Lobdell fully did to Tim's character, as I dropped Teen Titans very fast. I heard he became a jerk Olympic athlete who got his parents into witness protection and that he lost his virginity. All I know about Tim is from the other Batbooks. He doesn't show up much but I like that he became bros with Jason.
I thought he was really annoying before the reboot. Things like Ra's ordering his sister to rape him to get Drakebabies (Anyone remember how the artist advertised this issue as "a little something for the fangirls"?), or how he was to pure to get hurt by Azrael. He was such a Gary Stu. Constantly called the second best detective, many girls wanted to make out with him even during combat, and he was so incredibly smug about everything.
I did like his earlier runs where he was the Robin with a relatively normal childhood and a life outside of being Robin.
No, really. It could work. After being beaten within an inch of his life, he can do some soul searching onscreen and off. Keep him to, at most, occasional sidepanels or lending assistance while he recovers. The writer spins it as a humbling that lets him find his path, instead of walking in the shadows of Robins forever. His awful Nu52 personality traits can get a partial reset with a reason that way.
I do like the detective followup idea, hanging up the cape. The trouble with detective stories is finding a writer that can: 1) Not make the mysteries too convoluted 2) Still make them interesting enough to follow 3) Build an area/rogues gallery that isn't just Batman's existing one or a facsimile
Ever since he lost the actual Robin position, he's been floundering (and he'd gone to shit even before that). I don't see him ever finding a firm masked identity of his own like Dick and Jason have, so maybe the mask just isn't for him anymore.
>>79127066 Jason's book wouldn't be able to survive without crossovers and crossovers can't happen if everyone in the batfamily hates him. He also wouldn't be able to show up in things like Batman Eternal where people who don't care about Jason still have to read about him if they want the rest of the story.
>>79128254 >when they have enough development to fulfill their own roles in the batfam You do realize any development would be undone so Tim would be the smart one and Jason the quirky alcoholic bad boy, right
>>79122252 Centre him on being primarily tech and detective-based who develops his fighting skills slowly. Have him take the Batmantle for a period, then when Bruce comes back he fucks off to somewhere like Houston or somewhere nearer the West Coast and away from Gotham. There he becomes Redwing, more tech and detective skills-based, give him more a brawler sidekick/companion and interaction with Question, Chimp and Constantine. With him periodically showing up in Bat titles and Titans books every now and then.
>>79128820 Jason was never good. He always was a failure both as Robin and Red Hood. Tim was a good character in his own title and YJ until Identity Crisis. After that he started losing his supporting cast and became even more bland. Morrison made the right decision when he created a new Robin, because now the other writers could have given Tim a new direction. Instead they opted for Batman Jr and here we are, with a redundant character, unable to have anything to make him shine. The mercy kill for Tim is really the best option right now, while Jason can stay alive, but should be kept away from Gotham and Lobdell
>>79129662 He needs to get Scarlet Spider treatment or let him go back to being fucking wingman for fucks sake. If you're not going to let him get proper fucking development , the fucking make the ending of UTRH movie canon and make him dissappear. You can make him an on and off netutral figure that appears once in a while. But whatever they do they should just fucking take him out of gotham and lobdell because that's not only constant murder to his character but also to the batman books as a whole
>>79127066 You can still easily work with that by flipping the conflict. After his initial attempts Jason has given up on convincing Bruce that his methods are flawed and has come to peace with the incompatibility between their reasoning. Bruce isn't going to change and neither is Jason. But that doesn't mean he hates him or wishes ill upon him. He still shows up everytime because no matter how strained their relations the Batfamily is still his family and he's not going to abandon them, even if they're a bunch of self-righteous idiots.
At this point, Tim should just be removed. The batfamily is already getting cluttered with Bluebird and BlackRobin, along with Spoiler and Cass who are back. Most of Tim's original personality is distributed among Dick, Harper, BlackRobin, and Damian so doing anything new with him is pointless since it will just be more shit. Do the character some justice and remove him.
>>79130156 >Most of Tim's original personality is distributed among Dick, Harper, BlackRobin, and Damian Don't exaggerate, Harper is the only one who got part of Tim's personality, but in their current state they are both superflous
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