>That episode where Finn gets cucked by Cinnamon Bun
I love this episode because of all of the fannyflame it caused
This was strike two. Strike one was Frost & Flame, and the out was Breezy. They murdered this show.
What's up with all you nerds pretending like Adventure Time isn't dope as shit?
I watched up until they fucked up the Lich's "Multiverse" arc up, and then everything was back to normal.
I saw this Ep and a couple others, then forgot about the show.
This was the episode that made me give up on AT entirely. Watching Finn be reduced to a total beta who can't accomplish shit while the literal retard suddenly becoming competent for a contrived reason was embarassing.
Finn's the most hilariously-pathetic cartoon protagonist running, it's kind of sad in a "wow, I'm glad I'm not that guy" way. Completely screwed out of a girlfriend by a literal retard, on top of turning the other two main women lesbian by just being around them, and being ignored by most other women. It takes a whole new, extradimensional level of being a complete bitch boy to get your girlfriend stolen away by a barely-functional retard, especially when most women would rather bathe in vomit than be touched by a mentally-deficient fucker.
As much as people give Steven from SU (well-deserved) shit for being a whiny, effeminate, useless piece of shit, in this context he's still less pathetic than Finn, which is just plain heartbreaking to think about as a concept. If an obese mongrel autist with as much knowledge of his nature as a straight boy as a gazelle has of advanced calculus is more manly than you, and has the undivided attention of the one girl he's ever felt his dick twitch over, you might as well give up, get a fake vagina cut into the smooth mound where your balls are supposed to be hanging from, and pretend you're a woman for pitybux.
If we ever had a Cuck Awards contest for The Most Pathetic Male Lead Character in Cartoons for CURRENT YEAR", Finn would be the undisputed winner, the miserable cunt.
I blame Rebecca sugar
I blame writers of the show
I blame artist that made this
I blame my dick for getting hard on
I blame creator of the show.
>They wrote him like absolute shit that episode
That's the problem though, it's not just one shit episode that ruined him and his chances at ever sharing a bed with anyone female; It's been an endless descent of shit episode, after shit episode, after shit episode, until Finn's a complete fucking wreck of a "man" whose entire life is a monument to how not to get laid/why not to care so much about trying.
>most pathetic lead character
>anyone but Mordecai
Regular Show is WAY worse when it comes to relationship writing, and is pretty much an unwatchable show after Exit 9B
the time Finn seemed his happiness was with ittle PB in Too Young, why doesn't Finn deserve happiness?
because the knight getting the princess is an overused trope no matter how you put it.
It's 2016. That fucker should be shamed and neutered at the thought of fucking a humanoid female.
Finn really turns around after episode 15 guys.
It's a nice change from being an incompitent, useless dillweed
>this whole thread
Oh americans and europeans, your NTR boogeyman never fails to amuse me
Most of the main male characters in 2010's are cucks/retards/weak.
>implying spider-man isn't fucking his wife.
>In Angel Face Finn knocks out MeMow who grew tall as fuck and Finn's still a manlet
>Finn offers wise words in Black Eyed Girl "I say we use creepy as a label to distance ourselves from things we don't understand or reminds us of ourselves."
>In Bad Jubies he builds a fort with BMO and chews out LSP and Jake for slacking off/eating the food meant to be rationed over a month
>Helps Ice King get Gunter back and doesn't treat him like an asshole in King's Ransom
>Helps Marshmallow delinquents back on track in Scamps[/spoiler]
If anything watch Scamps bro.
>literally live in a country where skin color, penis size and overral size isn't an issue
>no white guilt
>more women than men
>don't need to give a shit about Jamal stealing my unloyal girlfriend
Whatever floats your boat, John
>Finns getting good again
i knew they wouldn't let me down
but actually i thought i would be dissapointed, but i was actually surprised
Trust me, that's probably the best we'll get out of him. He's probably gonna accomplish fucking nothing and get kidnapped again before the season ends, mark my fucking words
I'm honestly all out of mad, OP. You can't trigger me with this show anymore. I no longer wish it any harm.
Not really, because it doesn't teach them what TO do. Don'ts are useless without do's. If you're actually trying to teach a child, that is, which AT has never tried to do. They were merely using Finn to recount their own pathetic experiences.
How can you even fucking work on something when you can't even do the protagonist right?
AT feels like a bunch of ego-inflated assholes fighting for dominance, no wonder episodes vary so much depending on the director.
It still baffles me Marcline got her entire special mini-arc while Finn's deal with his father and the comet was rushed and disjointed as all fuck.
Why do you keep him around at this point if you honestly don't give a fuck anymore.
I am not much fan of Steven Universe, yet somehow, they have still maintained more focus on their protagonist.
Don't count of it. In USA ratings are going down but in South America people still love AT (Despite the dub being an utter atrocity that completely changes characters' personalities just cause "The VA felt like it".)
It really shames me to be a Latinofag when our dumb brains somehow keep shit alive. For example, Ice Age movies sell like fucking hotcakes here just cause the dub so no wonder they still keep shitting them out.
Because some fuckwit didn't give him character dumbass.
He's not allowed to get pissed, so he has to just take abuse with a smile. At one time that would be a testament to how optimistic and strong he is, but now it's more like he's forced to be spineless because he's the good guy.
well, back then they wanted out of rpetentiousness but didn't have the balls to go for it.
Then Korra and Steven Universe happened and they realized "Fuck, we lost the chance to beat them to the punch" so yeah, they are practically carpet munches as far as one can see and say on actual tv.
>Trapping her on Ice
>The feathers doesn't get burned
The only reason /co/ like Marcy is because she gets 3/4 of the "is it a /co/ waifu" checklist.
Other than that all she has going for he is being a keystone in world building due to her age. Sadly the world and story progression takes back seat to the new show model of crap a ton of 11 min episodes out for cheap where you don't progress anything because you can milk the cow till it starts lactating blood. Even when they dedicate an entire week block to her, everything goes back to status quo and nothing really has been explained or advanced. Or are you thinking she is interesting because she is a queer? Well that's great and all but I don't think the show is called Faggot Time.
I have to admit, even though this show is mostly pc butt garbage now the last few episodes have been pretty good. I really liked the dark eyed girls one. I would also like to see them just fuck off with Marcy and PB. Even just having Iceking and B-mo was great. Maybe bring back Canyon and have some cool adventure with her?
I feel bad for any boys growing up on this.
>you are bad and will fail at every chance
>women will never need you and hate you
>women are better off without you in fact
Best male rolemodel is fucking Greg Universe. How fucked is that?
I find this hilarious.
Clearly the AT missed a big publicity boost there. They planetd the seeds way ebfore any of those other shows but decided not to go for it.
Now Korra and SU got a lot of attention and publicity for "breaking barriers" and shit (Sure that lead to a toxic viewership, but tv doesn't care about that they care people are watching.) and if the AT team would have done it they would have been marked as pioneers.
Way to miss the bus there.
I wonder if Finn and FP haven't interacted since Red Throne because the writers were embarrassed about how everyone hated Red Throne so much.
Is their plan really to just have those two do separate things for the rest of the series?
Meh. I don't think young boys would be that effected by this shit. Sure Finn gets fucked over quite a bit with the femmes but there's nothing "Winnie Cooper" tier in that shit. DESU personally i never really liked Finn with any of them beyond the /ss/ factor. I always thought that the Flame chick was gonna be end game, but then Adventurer x Princess thing probably wouldn't work.
Adventurer wants to adventure and Princess is in one place running her kingdom. Hell they should have made a female counterpart to Finn, a fellow adventurer or some shit, would be more interesting than a Princess.
Another thing is ...well i hate to be "that guy" but i have to wonder if the main show had Fionna as a MC as opposed to Finn, would it go down the same way. I think it wouldn't....
Yeah I genuinely worry about boys who're getting their first exposure to romance/sex issues from Adventure Time. The staff's attitude is poison and would create a whole new generation of helpless, listless betas.
Greg is decent but I think Steven is a good role model for boys too. People can bitch all day about how he's effeminate and such, but if he wants something, he has the determination to go get it, and that includes the girlfriend he currently has.
Tell me, why do these guys writing these shows feel the need to flagellate themselves over how they're worthless and can't touch a girl without turning her gay, whereas Sucrose gives her MC healthy self-esteem and lets him snag the first girl he was interested in?
i still think they are gonna crossover finn and fionna. i know they are gonna get desperate, and then, they are gonna let out the stops and do it. its gonna happen faggots, believe it
FP was a runaway princess, she didn't have to rule anything if she didn't want to. Could've easily been an adventurer along with him.
It's not like they couldn't pull the perfect girl for Finn out of thin air at any time, anyway. They just don't want him to date, so they don't.
>yfw that cuck episode was to teach boys that sometimes you will fuck up and a seemingly better man will take your girl
>yfw writers are secretly genius and not stupid
There is tough love and there is bad writing.I always hate when a writer comes into a show or comic and is all like "well i don't like this character, so i am going to write Him/her like total shit! Yeah!"
"Sorry asshole but i don't give a fuck about your hang ups with whatever character you aren't a fan of." If i had a show and a writer hated the MC of said show he wouldn't be fucking writing it.
That is exactly the kind of bullshit that got Thundercats to where it ended up after the first three episodes.
He admitted he was straight up uninterested in Finn, and didn't know what was wrong with himself.
And cool, he doesn't think that way anymore, but Finn is at his worst right now and season 7 was probably already boarded at the time of the interview. It isn't even only his episodes that portray Finn negatively.
Which they've been doing for at least two years now.
Ten seasons is likely a bit of a liberal estimate but I see it getting 9 at least. One extra on top of the confirmed ones seems likely to me.
>that cuck episode was to teach boys that sometimes you will fuck up and a seemingly better man will take your girl
But by that point Finn was already useless
He didn't have to even be in that episode
That and all the villains and the secret plot were thwarted by not really doing anything at all
Unless the point of that episode was that things will never make any sense ever, then the writers were just bullshitting
you could have prevented this
realistically, why the fuck is he so picky? he has no societal influences telling him "don't screw the lady made of breakfast foods", he was raised by dogs and they fuck anything warm.
on an unrelated note, breakfast princess best princess.
almost every single princess he has interacted with. Also every woman in "Breezy" (as fucking weird as that episode was)
>not wanting to fuck the slime princess
fucking pleb taste senpai
Well, how about an arc about Cinnabun The Terrible?
PB calls Finn and Jake to the castle for an important mission, and tells them that Flame Princess has begun invading other kingdoms, just to leave them smoldering pools of lava. Finn isn't sure how to feel about having to fight his ex, and Jake says something along the lines of "Don't imagine her as your ex dude, imagine her as a giant flame lady who is trying to kill you, that you used to really really like"
Finn and Jake interrupt Flame Princess who is attacking Racoon Kingdom who reverts back when she sees Finn for expositional plot before refuting him, continuing to attack Racoon Kingdom. Finn gets over himself and attacks her, which causes her to draw back in emotional pain and she retreats to the Fire Kingdom.
There Cinnamon Bun comforts her and then asks her if she destroyed The Racoon Kingdom. She shakes her head no, and he pats her on the back. "That's okay Princess, you'll get em next time." Cinnamon Bun leaves and retreats to a dark room with a table full of miniature kingdoms and pieces of Adventure Time Characters positioned in certain areas.
"Next time." The episode ends with a shot of Cinnamon Buns eyes filled with fire.
If only a memory stealing gun existed...
For now, concussions and sniffing glue will do.
Next episode is something along the lines of Flame Princess sneaking out in the cover of darkness trying to talk to Finn. She throws a rock at his window, but when that doesn't wake him up she throws flames through the window onto his bed. Finn comes out and is akward and stuff, and she comes clean with him.
"I've only been doing what I've been doing to protect my kingdom Cinnamon Bun has been telling me that the kingdoms have been planning to attack the Flame Kingdom." Finn tries to talk her out of it, and she shakes her head saying "I was hoping you'd understand as a friend, but I guess if we need to be enemies, then so be it. I'll be attacking the Racoon Kingdom again tomorrow, don't stop me." Jake overhears the entire thing and he takes Finn to Princess Bubblegum to tell her the situation.
Finn says something along the lines of "Ever since Cinnamon Bun got full baked, he's been being a better champion than me." Princess Bubblegum spits out tea, Peppermint Butler drops a hot kettle. "Why didn't you tell me Cinnamon Bun was fully baked?" Finn and Jake make some excuse up, and Princess Bubblegum starts freaking out, explaining to them that Cinnamon Bun was purposely half baked to keep his tyrannical intellilect curbed, because at every possible moment, he tried to overthrow Princess Bubblegum in hilariously obvious ways. The Cinnamon Bun they once knew was literally 1% of his true intellilect, and she grabs Finn by the shoulders. "The entire WORLD is danger Finn"
Meanwhile back at the Flame Kingdom, Cinnamon Bun greets Flame Princess as she sneaks back into her room. "Hiya Princess, where were you?" She gets insulted and tells Cinnamon Bun to leave. "No, I'm afraid I can't do that Princess." Cinnamon Bun takes out a lantern and forces her into it. "You see, a Knight needs his Princess, and a Princess needs her Knight." Flame Princess slams against the walls of the Lamp. "But an Emperor rules alone my sweet." End of episode 2.
Last episode, Finn and Jake try to make it to the Flame Kingdom to confront Cinnamon Bun, however they notice that the Racoon Kingdom is in flames, so they stop there. There they see Cinnamon Bun using the Flame Princess Lamp as a Flamethrower to burn the kingdom to the ground. Finn and Jake try to attack him, but are stopped by flames. Cinnamon Bun looks at the flames as he looks down to Finn and Jake. "Isn't it beautiful? It's free, expressive, and dancing around like whimsical faires. Just like me Finn. Do you have any idea what its like being trapped in the body of an idiot? Do you know how much I wanted all those who laughed at me to feel my anger? Look at it boys. This is my anger. Isn't it beautiful?" Princess Bubblegum flies in on her swan and cries out "CINNAMON BUN" Cinnamon Bun drops the Flame Princess Lamp and looks at Princess Bubblegum walking in the flames. "You made me like this Princess, you did all of this. You really can't blame poor old Cinnamon Bun for any of this. I'm too stupid to know what I'm really doing."
Princess Bubblegum looks down and says "You're right."
But then she punches him and says "BUT YOU'RE NOT CINNAMON BUN!" Cinnamon Bun falls unto Flame Princesses Lamp and shatters it, she absorbs all the flames in the burning kingdom and launches them at Cinnamon Bun as Finn and Jake attack him. Cinnamon Bun melts and turns into a Cinnamon Roll, tiny and helpless, crying in the night sky. FP, PB, Finn and Jake all look down at Cinnamon Roll, Finn hands him to FP, who cries and flies back away to the Flame Kingdom.
PB says to Finn and Jake "I'm really sorry you had to see all of that."
Jake bumps Finns side "Dude, I think that means she's single now."
Finn looks on in the smoky ash background. "Not now dude. Not now."
>i think that means she's single now
If I had the authority to I would hire you to be a writer for the show for that line alone.
her husbando betrayed her, tricked her into being a genocidal bitch, then put her in a lamp and used her as a living weapon. All after she got pissed off at Finn and left him over a drastically more minor version of this problem.
I haven't seen the show in years but I accidentally caught that staked the movie thing because my TV was turned to it
>kills vampires to absorb their power and become the super whatevereline
>talk to the king of vampires
>"everything repeats because nobody lives long enough to see the pattern!!"
>giant fucking smoke monster thing like holy shit
>Marceline goes something that can literally only be described as super saiyan super nova
>absorbs giant smoke stack monster
I don't understand what the fuck was the point of that movie, it literally just went in a circle plot wise, its almost like they were making commentary on what they were doing, moving towards fixing it, then just went " nah just kidding we like the shit fest we got going "
>There hasn't been a single episode this season where Finn is portrayed negatively though
Care to watch Stakes again? Him being dumb and incompetent IS him being portrayed negatively.
I mean, he's always been kinda dumb, but in the earlier seasons he could still manage to come up with his own plans that actually worked, and could still take care of monsters without being completely reliant on Jake. Think the episode with the ghost Colosseum.
I think the main reason may be due to not only the good writers leaving but the writers taht remained trying to put themselves in finns shoes. Breezy for example was inspired by a writer who had the same experience
the experience of having a girl help him hook up with other girls because she got off on it, and him losing his virginity to a fat chick because of it, and then his arm grew back?
really irritated me
someday soon ill bet cucking is going to be seen as empowerment.
ill actually bet
>"we can write him like garbage because he was in his preteen stage!"
>chucklefuck hosts laugh it up when he says he wanted him to trip over himself all the time
Oh I wonder if it was Bubblegum or Marceline acting all fucked up and trying to get with multiple guys in the show. Would their fans really enjoy that?
Am I getting salty for no reason? Is puberty a valid excuse?
imao its just like real life interracial
>Is puberty a valid excuse?
there are real teens who basically act like that, but no it's not an excuse to make Finn act like that. this is what happens when people think "write from experience" means "dump everything that happened to me onto this character without regard for how the character would actually react"
It was either a REALLY mean joke or they haven't pulled his ass out of the fire that is his romantic interest toward them. Though, I don't think he ever had any with Marceline to begin with.
What I really can't fucking stand is that if they start to bolster and parade Bubbline around more, it would be at the expense of Finn's character.
>it wasn't even a romantic gesture
the way Finn "hits on" girls is vague and passive aggressive, so maybe they were implying it WAS romantic. I mean, if you were deeply in love with a girl at one point, you probably can't put your arm around her shoulder in a totally platonic way anymore. You're always kinda hoping she'll touch you back. I hate to go there because Finn deserves platonic friends with no weirdness, but this is the reality of betaness.
If you haven't noticed lesbians are the new "in" thing.
The creators hate Finn. If that wasn't obvious when Marceline got a special dedicated to her past and shit and Finn meeting his father was nothing but a bad joke then I don't know how much more obvious they have to be.
post YFw this was their exact plan but now that some guy on 4chan guessed it and ruined the surprise they're going to replace it with a three-parter about Cinnabun's tragic backstory and end it with transexual lesbians
>They they tell a story to Sweet Roll how she was made.
Oh how I can't wait to make a story about these two having hot sticky dirty nasty sex while PB is watching them for "research".
I see you're baiting Bunshitposter. fuck you still
If Cinnamon Bun was only retarted because he was half-baked, wouldn't he slowly become more powerful the more intimate he got with Flame Princess?
Would the flash fire from her orgasm unleash Cinnamon Bun's final form?
FP will show up again soon.
Are you guys ready?
I liked this show when finn was trying to get PB
now CN is trying to normalize cucking, lesbianism and womyn empowerment
this is why some boys from my family are growing up like complete betas and effeminate cunts.
fucking CN man
>Adventure Time Studios, 3:30 AM
>A dark corner
>Pendleton Ward is scribbling away
>He has finished, at long last, the full story for the Adventure Time movie
>It's not perfect, nothing ever is, but it's as close to the memories of his tabletop games and comic books that motivated him to make that fateful pilot episode years ago
>The story is simple enough, Finn fights the Ice King to save Peebles, and then contends with the Lich. The structure is effective, but it's in the humor where the film truly shines
>Suddenly, the door to Pen's office bursts open
>He is blinded as light fills the room
>Jesse Moynihan, Steve Little, Somvilay Xayaphone, and even Rebecca Sugar walk into the office
>Pen has not heard from them in months
>He hasn't seen Rebecca for years
>"W-what's up, guys?", he asks, a mix of fear and hope in his voice
>"We heard you finished the movie, Pen.", Little says, an eerie smile on his face
>"We wanted to offer feedback.", Moynihan chips in
>Ward clenches his teeth. "There's- there's no need for that, guys."
>"Oh, I insist.", Jesse says, and snatches the 500 storyboards from Pen's hand as he takes out a bright red sharpie.
>"This is no good at all", Little snorts, as he crosses off a picture of the Gumball Guardians and replaces them with Betty.
>"This plot point is too direct. You need to be more experimental and philisophical with your ending.", Moynihan mutters as he tears the final story board of Finn killing the Lich into pieces.
>"I like this panel.", Rebecca Sugar says, as she holds up a picture of Finn kissing Princess Bubblegum as Marceline cheers them all.
>"But it would work even better if you switched Finn with Marceline, don't you agree?"
>"N-no I- I don't agr-" Pen starts to mutter.
>He is met not with glares, but looks of incredulity.
>"Y-yes, you're right.", Pen says
>"I- I just wanted an Adventure, but maybe... maybe that's not what kids want. Go ahead and make the changes.
>AND YOU COULD HAVE IT ALL
>MY EMPIRE OF DIRT
4chan is largely made up angry male nerds who are overly sensitive so when the show has a teenage boy protagonist fail at a relationship it deeply offends them.
Their use to seeing fantasy relationships were the hero gets the girl so reality bites.
Fuck Cinnamon Bun. God I've never hated a fictional character so fucking much.
AU where Finn goes full genocide when, /co/?
Please make it happen.
>I don't understand what the fuck was the point of that movie
It was literally about how things in life repeat. Yes, it's gives a bit of an excuse for resetting the status quo, but that was kind of the point. Life repeats. Those who don't learn from the past are damned to repeat it, the Universe will expand, then it will collapse back on itself, then it will expand again. It will repeat this process forever.
Take your pick on these two concepts. The serialization that is inherent with this medium lends itself to these ideas, and further adds to the movie.
The Cuck is immunized against all dangers: one may call him a scoundrel, parasite, swindler, beta, it all runs off him like cum off his wife. But call him a Cuck and you will be astonished at how he recoils, how injured he is, how he suddenly shrinks back: “I’ve been found out.”
Mindfucked by that damn owl they were supposed to trust.
"Jake I had a weird dream."
"Pfft, dreams are weird, don't pay attention to them."
"Yea though the Cosmic Owl was in it."
"HOLY GLOB DO WHATEVER HE IMPLIED YOU SHOULD DO."
It was a shit cop out that make next to no damn sense.
Should write it in that PB was behind it all. Since she's a controlling bitch.
Morty and Finn have lots in common: they both are given magnificent possibilities for pussy, but both are thwarted by their own betaness and by the evil geniuses in their life.
Steven doesn't belong on that list, so far he's given every girl in his life the friendship cock and added them to his friend harem.
>Cinnamon Bun is completely retarded
>suddenly he's competent and Finn is completely retarded
>for one episode
>then we're back to Cinnamon Bun being retarded again, to the point where FP is clearly annoyed with his bullshit
How did they get away with this
I would be totally fine with Finn getting cucked if he was still an effective hero and warrior and stuff.
After all it's been a thing since the series began that Finn's awkward and bad with girls, so even though Red Throne was a flaming pile of shit that's at least sort of consistent with that.
There's no damn reason why 16 year old Finn is worse at fighting than his 12 year old self, unless he has super aging and in those 4 years he went from being 12 to being 60 or something.
I'm more insulted by how he just sucks in general now than him getting cucked, since at least the cucking had a reason for it to happen in the show.
>Steven is the most alpha male protagonist around right now
Finn is even the beta of the AU made just to have them all be less beta.
Some feminists already do, and their gutless husbands go along with it. Hollow-eyed and emasculated, they mutter about how they didn't really understand empowerment until their wife fucked another man.
Honestly, if there's any reason to build sex robots, this is it.
>Oh I wonder if it was Bubblegum or Marceline acting all fucked up and trying to get with multiple guys in the show. Would their fans really enjoy that?
Or if it were Fionna for that matter, you know that nothing close to that shit would happen.
I feel like the whole Cinnamon Bun shit with FP was made up on the fly because they had no idea what to do with him.
That and they could never continue the plot with Don John because Roddy Piper fucking died.
>use convoluted, invasively personal, creepy plan to keep Finn under control
>don't even attempt to talk him down like a human being
that was *especially* crazy. i don't get why people think that episode was sweet.
>Leaving out Mordecai.
He IS the the lamest beta cuck in animation. Nobody fucked up more than Mordecai.
The term "Betacai" exists for a reason. Not even Finn could fuck more than that fucking bluejay.
Don't hate the character, hate the writers.
Finn was on his way of being a truly great hero then they slammed him with puberty like that's an excuse to make him this bad.
He needs to not take their shit and tell them to fuck off every once in a while. I dunno, be more assertive.
If you read the post I was referring to, I am only addressing feminists. The "hotwives" you mention don't dress it in rhetoric, but it's still ultimately about gratification at the cost of their partner. Either way, I want my Panda Delgado sexbot with futanari.
If anything, we're watching the aftermath of a Harem show that starred Greg.
If the show gets better writer, then I wouldn't be fearful of the season going downhill again.
Honestly, I think Rebecca was the only writer/story boarder who never put her own personal issues onto a character.
Well that is what happens when you hire writers that dislike the MC. They should just write Finn out somehow. Have some weird shit happen where the Ice King fucks up with some magic artifact and while Finn and Jake are transported to Fionna's world and Fionna and Cake to Finn's. This way the new writers can have their empowered female hero they clearly want and Finn can get /ss/'d by the Ice Queen or some shit.
>The "hotwives" you mention don't dress it in rhetoric, but it's still ultimately about gratification at the cost of their partner.
Ah but that is the brilliance of it! Dressing in rhetoric is how they can disguise themselves as some sort of empowered woman as opposed to a plain ol slut and the husband can fool himself into thinking he is being progressive as opposed to a cuck beta faggot!
As for Sexbots you had better get rich then, anon! Those things are going to cost as much as a new Corvette!
>Remember when this show was all about a goofy kid having adventures with his magical dog?
still is, mostly. not the show's fault /co/ fixates on a small number of infamous, atypical episodes.
the execution of "goofy kid has adventures with magical dog" is just super lame and neutered now.
In fairness to the show that still happens quit a lot.
Only thing is it's nowhere near as funny or exciting as it used to be and gets in the way of the plot progression and lore, the only thing they have left that are nominally interesting.
Season 2 tha best though, just a notch above 1 and 2 notches above 3, and then there's the powergap where everything else falls.
I liked season 5.2 more than most anon it seems.
cause everyone was sperging out
>I both know that you'd get sick of Finn and Jake if they were around 24/7
only if they never changed. that's what character development is supposed to be for. making characters more interesting over time.
It was so jarring how Finn acted in that episode
Reminder that no matter what, fiction or not, nobody will ever be a more pathetic individual than Mordecai.
Was really done for no reason too. At least Frost and Fire was there to get the ball rolling on their excuse of an arc, Red Throne just jackknifed the story off a cliff for no reason.
Did they think it was a good idea to hijack the protagonists character development when he seemed to be making an improvement and make all the viewers hate him? I imagine that would be bad for ratings and stuff.
I still think Finn's got it worse, since while Mordecai is a pretty standard loser living in a normal world where he faces normal challenges (aside from being a bird-man and shit), Finn deals with much more strife day-to-day that requires him to be strong and successful, and yet he still always fails at love. He's the kind of guy who slays giant monsters, takes on entire armies, travels to hostile otherworldly places and has even taken on entropy personified several times with success where no one else can beat him, and yet he still can't get laid.
Farther heights to fall from and deeper depths to fall into, basically. I mean, logically speaking, a guy who regularly does and survives all the crazy shit Finn does which everyone knows about should be swimming in hot and bothered women, but because the writers need to retell their pathetic failures with women as general losers when young through him, he keeps losing out to retarded pastries and such.
I can see how someone like Mordecai would reasonably have as much trouble as he does getting/keeping a girl, but Finn's a case where all logic dictates that the only reason he shouldn't be swimming in pussy is due to being gay/in a place with no other living things, and yet he keeps getting kicked in the dick by the plot/writers regarding that.
no, them being gay means the possibility of love and happiness, it needs to be sad and pathetic. Two betas on the downlow fucking each other then pretending it didn't mean anything, desperate enough to have gay sex but still too obsessed with girls they fucking blew their chances with to admit what they are
No, that was after Finn was written by the writers to be an unlikable, pervy, beta bitch and as a result got dumped hard by FP.
Then that whole CB thing happened to put a nail on any chance of him getting back FP, which I support, such things kill shipping.
One would have to ask why the writer's hate Finn so much to drag his character through the mud like that.
I think Ice King is the only character I can tolerate nowadays. He's barely changed since the show started, albeit "muh fiancé from the past is in the future and has gone batshit insane"
I think Finn is legit going to be either gay or learn how to be more independent. Then someone will come around for him and he will ignore them. Thus making him a prick instead of a cuck. Either that or he just fucking dies.
he used to be, not anymore. Now he's teaching them "Be a little bitch and let people walk over you", he used to be "Be kind, be just, help the weak, it's okay to be scared, etc etc"
Its a term thats been used so much it really has very little meaning besides when its implied someone has left their partner for another. CB has never been shown to be in a relationship with Flame princess beyond being her champion. So calling finn a "cuck" is a little extreme.
Since children won't autistically analyze the show like people on 4chan they will just see Finn as a kind, brave, and caring hero and he's cool enough that they will likely try to aspire to be like him.
They may notice that he gets fucked on the romance aspect but since these are children who think girls have cooties they aren't gonna care.
It's not like kids even watch cartoons anymore though so whatever.
I actually found this episode funny. Despite getting angry that Flame Princess went nowhere, they way they tried to add insult to injury at the expense of Finn made me chuckle.
Breezy on the other hand pissed me of to no end and was the last straw for me. Seriously, fuck that episode.
I'm just explaining why "cuck isn't censored here". Its a term that has lost all meaning at this point. Kind of like autistic being used interchangeably with retarded.
>one male lead gets written shitty and /co/ whines it's pathetic heart out
cry me a fucking river
How does it feel to have a character you really like and think is strong end up being stupid and useless? How does it feel to see that character get ignored in favor of the opposite sex and need to be saved by them? How does it feel to see a role model you had lots of hope for get treated like shit by the narrative?
How does it fucking feel?
Feels like the industry has been taken over by misandrist feminists with a lesbian axe to grind and a plan to turn all little boys into spineless sissies and fuckboys.
Islam is starting to look like the better option at this point.
>if I cover my ears and yell "troll", different perspectives from mine won't exist
If you're so upset about Finn go find one of the bazillion other forms of media with cool male leads
So, does anyone else think Finn can still salvage this? Not a relationship with FP or anything I mean his character in general. Honestly I think what he needs right now is a brother/father figure type character (not Jake, Jake is fucking incompetent at relationship advice) to teach him not to be so reliant on romance, basically teach him to be chill with just being him.
He needs Kamina
12 year old Finn basically was. Kind and helpful but assertive. If it was time to set shit straight, he could. Remember that time he and his hero heart inspired Billy to live again?
Good thing this current trend of forced emasculation will be over as soon as decadent western countries get to experience war first hand and women will be reminded how incredibly extraordinary and unique their current egalitarian lifestyle really is. Nothing like the threat of being hunted, massraped and then sold to some fat old man with syphilis to be his fourth wife to remind a person that maybe castrating the ones in your tribe who are going to be sent to die for you isn't such a good idea after all.
>somehow beta just because he can't connect with women
>most of said women have 2-dimensional personalities, the rest are a fat whore, an edgy fuckstick with daddy issues, and a 1000+ year old girl with autism
Finn's got absolutely zero people he can connect with outside of Jake really. He barely has any friends that respect him on a personal level, let alone females that don't see him either as a tool to use or a 2-dimensional hero.
The series hasn't dealt with Finn's relationships in a long time by this point. I blame either the trolls that won't let it go because they know it gets to some people or the people who hate adventure time and just have to let you know in detail specifically why they dropped a show 2 or 3 years ago as if they know anything thats going on in the show currently.
If you really want to think that the current crisis in Europe isn't going to end in another pseudo-Crusade you're so far out of touch with reality its no wonder you're on the comics and cartoons board.
Yes I'm implying it happens to female characters all the time. All the fucking god damn time all my fucking life
But it's not "revenge", it's just balancing things out, because people are finally realizing girls characters can be cool too. It's unfortunate if male characters get shafted in the process because the writers don't care as much about them, but again, deal with it crybabies now you know how it feels
I admit I don't actually know much about the current state of AT though, I'm just going off the complaints I've seen ITT
I'd be more okay with Finn not being cool if he'd always been uncool, like >>79127419 said.
Bottom line, they took a naturally cool and strong person and let a single flaw totally overwhelm him and alter his personality forever, even though, given his character, it probably shouldn't have. That's my main problem. Nerfing/Betafication of Finn doesn't make sense as development, it's derailment so the writers can jerk themselves off about how flawed their characters are.
After Stakes,I entirely believe his character can finally be redeemed. Even if i'm still salty about the shitshow they dragged him through there's still a glimmer of hope.
That is until the next Tom episode comes out and he's an idiot again outta nowhere.
who is that semen demon
>That hand scene in Stakes
>That Scene in Ghost Fly where he draws a woman subconsciously on the floor
>Pajama War is iffy
>The Comet with Phoebe as "Love"
>Could possibly be an infatuation
Yes its brought up from time to time but I mean it hasn't been the focus of an episode in ages. Which is fine. The kid had his heart broken but I think its good that its not being dwelled upon like it was up until breezy. I think thats why it left such a bad taste in nearly everyone's mouths and that leads to today where people are still talking about a show they supposedly stopped watch years ago.
I think you misunderstand how important romance is to some people.
Finn's basically going through some half-written form of depression because he's been constantly rejected by the women he loves and wants to love further, but because of his lack of education and experience with anything other than being a hero, and the fact that he's a pubescent boy, this shit is getting to him a lot deeper than it should be.
If you want to get a glimpse of how important social connections and romance are to humans, just take a glimpse at how shit /r9k/ is.
>because people are finally realizing girls characters can be cool too
desu only whiny feminists claim there's a shortage of cool female characters in media.
the staff of modern Adventure Time included, so PB got turned into a bonafide Strong Female Character who's better than Finn at everything.
You really, really have a weird view of life and a lack of reading if all of this boils down to a "HA" moment for you just because the characters that are decent don't have a vagina.
None of the characters in AT are decent people.
Marceline is LITERALLY "daddy issues"
PB is a collectivist autist with no respect for anybody else except her 1000 year old vampire "friend" that she kind of wants to fuck because she has nobody else she's gotten to know on a personal level
LSP is a fat, shallow whore
and every other female has no personality past being a plot device
None of the females in AT are positive role models.
Yeah, women can be "cool" in media, but that doesn't mean shit if it doesn't match up with real life.
>I think you misunderstand how important romance is to some people.
well, getting love/sex is important to any human. but based on Finn's original personality, he shouldn't be the /r9k/ type. he is now but only because he got squished into a badly-fitting mold until it stuck.
he should have bounced back and found somebody out there to be happy with, by now.
>Female characters stronk and male characters shit = good
>implying this even works with the genders flipped
Stay the fuck away from a writing room. Even moreso from most of the anons in this thread IMO
He doesn't want to settle down with a generic princess and from what we've seen there's no other female adventurer or even a female period that wants to be with him past a one night stand.
Its partially the writers fault and partially because this IS the current character art for him.
The dude's all alone. He has nobody to look up to because they're all dead, nobody to relate to because he's practically the lands only hero adventurer, and nobody thats worth fucking because they're all shit and the ones that aren't don't want to fuck him.
That shit will wear you down eventually. And we call that "depression". The writers will either see fit to make him go full crazy augur of justice or finally write in a love interest, but /co/ will shit on either or.
Anyone who gives any more than a passing fuck about female characters aside from waifu material will say that. It's better these days, but only recently.
If you consider the handful of characters (mostly side characters too) that get posted over and over again in "strong female character" threads to be proof that they're abundant, then just, nah. 1/10th of media is not a big portion
It's a silly cartoon, I really don't care that much about the specific details of their morals and values. Most characters in AT are extravagant dicks. I'm just happy that a couple of the girls are interesting to a lot of people and can handle themselves without just being an accessory to the male lead
but that's besides the point, I'm not defending any character in AT here, I just wanted to let the posters who were saying stuff like "Finn's a beta, the girls are so much better than him wah" know that that's the exact same thing that happens to girl characters all the time only reversed. So stop acting like it's the end of the world and deal with it like we've always had to. There's plenty more strong male leads in the sea and there always will be
>Yeah, women can be "cool" in media, but that doesn't mean shit if it doesn't match up with real life.
I can say the same for male characters, ain't no dude as cool as the star of an action movie or whatever
He barely even ventures out from the house, I'm sure if he traveled a little farther and longer and saved some more villages, he'd snag a goodun. A chick with a nice enough rack would sway him from that princess fetish of his.
There's a whole world out there and Finn is still supposed to be a roaming adventurer. It doesn't make sense that his options would be this limited, the writers are just forcing it to keep status quo.
>I'm just happy that a couple of the girls are interesting to a lot of people and can handle themselves without just being an accessory to the male lead
This pisses me off because classic AT didn't think it was shameful for Bubblegum to need Finn's help sometimes. She was still strong anyway. Fucking hell AT used to be on top of this PC bullshit.
Lucky Pie!!!! That shit is amazing!
Perhaps mentioning gender wasn't a good idea. Fuck you still buddy.
Have a Fionna and ice Queen to calm your triggeredness
>Your entire complaint stems from the idea that positive role models in media somehow will affect real life, at least subconsciously. And thats fucking stupid thoughtpolice bullshit that statists/feminists ascribe to.
Not that poster, but literally all this thread, people have been complaining about how boys don't have a positive role model to look up to because of Finn's betafication. I'm not saying you're wrong, I'm just pointing out that it seems okay when Finn's the subject of this phenomena.
I meant tame as in "dissenting opinions won't be shitposted into oblivion with the most offensive bullshit". /tg/ actually has rational discourse about things. /v/ USED to be good but the /b/ shitposting/le epic culture took over. /co/ is getting to be about the same way.
I'm >>79138654 and >>79137949 and i don't really have a problem with Finn's current arc.
Its a problem with both sexes honestly, because ignorant plebes don't fucking read about the waking world and see theres a lot more shit out there besides cartoons.
I generally agree with your opinion on him. It bothers me that they've even let his puberty-induced incompetence last so long. I expected one arch, and then he's back to how he was. But maybe other guys really are realistically that hung up on women or the lack of gf, so Finn could be "realistic" (I read further up that his wrist episodes were based on the writer's actual experiences, so i guess that answers that). But it's getting in the way of the plot. And the way they treated Finn meeting his father as basically a joke... It's exhausting. He's basically been a side character the last few episodes.
His incompetence a la Stakes isn't even related to girls. He's more of a general bumblefuck and I can't think of any explanation except maybe hormones slowly fried his brain and took his agility.
As a viewer who found CB's out of nowhere transformation and a bunch of the Simon/Marceline backstory and story building boring, I think that the recent episodes have so far been a return to form. The Marceline 8 parter was entertaining in its own way but seemed pointless by the end.
I hate nearly everyone in this thread, and >>79113028 best exemplifies why. The show was finally giving me exactly what I wanted, and you guys were too dense to understand why it was a good thing. "Shipping time!" my ass. Finn got into a relationship, fucked it up, fucked up his chance to patch things up.. this wasn't romance at all. This was Finn making mistakes and growing as a character. This is the "character development" we used to say we wanted. And Breezy was a great episode, too. It's too bad the arc was dropped after that because of fucking whiners like you.
>Finn gets raped
>reachest lowest point in the Flame Princess arc yet
Fuck you. That was anything but "status quo." What was status quo was when they didn't actually continue the arc, presumably because of people like you flipping your shit.
I use to get that response in the Adventure Time generals too. This is why post-Frost and Fire Adventure Time threads were the worst this board has ever seen. Even worse than the MLP generals. And yes, I've been here that long.
Breezy was fucking garbage, literally reset everything back to the status quo.
We could have had actual, relatable character trauma with Finn learning to cope with a missing arm and being a complete badass regardless of his handicap.
But no, we got a fucking friendzoned bee sing a little song and his arm grew back.
I will say that the whole grass-arm thing they're trying to do now is interesting but seeing as it only happens once in a fucking blue moon it hardly makes up for the potential one-armed Finn could have had going for him.
I think Finn having sex with a girl he isn't into, possibly nonconsentually, trumps the arm thing. I really wanted to see where they were going with that, and they didn't go anywhere.
Guess I'll repost the theory I always post in threads about Cinnamoncuck to give anons hope/despair.
I'm almost certain they had originally planned to take CB and Phoebe's relationship a different way.
I think Flame Lord didn't "fully bake" CB with that last move, but instead used his mind magic on him to switch bodies.
>FL wanted FP to love him
>FP told him she couldn't love someone she doesn't know
>That weird final attack from FL goes through CB's shield
>Afterwards, FL acts weird and confused and doesn't say a word
>Meanwhile, CB is suddenly all over shit and getting a lot closer to FP
>Most damning of all, CB LIED, claiming Flame King was the one that did the mind magic instead of Flame Lord
I think the way it was supposed to go was that they switched minds and FL would later be found out, meaning Phoebe was literally betrayed by everyone she's ever trusted, even the guy she thought couldn't lie.
Then she either goes full evil or comes to understand that everyone can be jerks and forgive Finn a bit.
>What was status quo was when they didn't actually continue the arc
exactly. the point of the arc was to restore status quo.
>presumably because of people like you flipping your shit.
anon, the episodes are made like a year before we see them and conceived even before that.
>a kingdom made of salt
Remember when AT threads were fun and not rage? We should make a monthly comical Finn boner thread to remember the good times.
I remember him cracking the shits every time he posted. Called it a 'Witch Hunt' when people were annoyed Lemon Hope got two episodes while Betty only got one.
Guy needs to stop projecting
Yeah. /co/ actually convinced me to watch AT a few years ago. I still enjoy it to pieces. Discussing it on /co/ not so much. I've read the phrase "LSP raped Finn" one too many times and I don't even know if they actually think that happened or they're just fucking around anymore.
Honestly when I realised the princess was just leading him on so she could keep him as her little errand boy, that she basically saw him as nothing better than a tool to be used, and finn doing absolutely nothing about it the realisation was so depressing I couldn't bear to keep watching it
that was a few seasons back now though, what's it on now? 7? I wish it would die already.
You don't even fuckin watch it? What the fuck do you care? Goddamn people like you sometimes