>completely indifferent to others' feelings
Is she /co/ ultimate waifu?
Add to that while Carla was being annoying, Mary wrecked her property and risked injuring Carla while also messing up the school's carpet by pouring glue on them thus negating any rrrrures high ground.
I'm confused. If she's a she, but she's also a car than she can't be trans because cars are always she, so she wouldn't have been a he before she was a she, and she obviously isn't a she who wants to be a she because then people wouldn't call her she. Also she, who would be he, would be Carl instead of Carla.
So we've established that Skater Girl's an asshole. At this point, I think punching her in the face is probably the right move for Christian Girl.
Are they gonna be the new progressive couple? What is it called when there is two girls but one of the girls is mentally sick?
Where is Joyce, I actually want her to interact with Joe like they were doing in that other page.
It bothers me she's skating on carpet at all. Even the commercial loop pile carpeting used in dorms would make skating difficult, unless this is some weird strength training thing.
She is wearing short as fuck shorts and jumping around.
He should had just drawed a flopping dick there and save time for the revelation.
Or is she just not trans in this universe? She doesn't look like an important character to the story to focus on her. But Becky wasn't neither.
Where is Becky? Btw
She was a car in the last universe but still trans I think.
I know that sentence makes no sense but I have no other way to write it to be more comprehensive.
Becky is still at Chick-fil-a I guess
So Ruth, the person who treats everyone like complete shit is going to suddenly be "Oh no you didn't, there are lines not meant to be crossed" even though she's physically assaulted at least five people in the span of a month?
I don't know why I expect anything different from Willis. It seemed like Mary was actually gonna' go to some people in charge, and then our spunky Carla would've had to learn how to calm the fuck down, but no. Mary is in fact a completely evil person who hates Carla because she's(don't fucking say it) trans and not because the bitch roller skates outside her door all the goddamn time.
Dina and Joyce are the only two people left on their entire dorm that aren't complete assholes.
Is this comic about complete assholes being justified? It's like, every arc is 'yeah, they were doing something bad, but you were a jerk about bringing it up, so you're the bad guy and they get a free pass'. It almost feels like Willis thinks that being anything less than super-duper kind when addressing criticism or problems is a sin...
...My God.... that's why there's no self insert in Dumbing of Age
The whole comic is a self-insert/Wish fulfillment piece
There was a Patreon Anon back during the Toedad saga that posted the strips early. We even got to see Willis change strips between Patreon posting and website posting.
All you have to do is pull back your pledge at the end of the month, before it's registered and sent off.
It's kind of weird that its been maybe three months story time and we've had an attempted shooting, various relationship dramas and various reveals of people being X Y and/or Z. You'd think after the fifth time revealing that someone's LBGT it'd be less of a dramatic sting.
I'm pretty sure there's a trope out there where everything that possibly could happen not only DOES happen, but it happens to a small group of people who just so happen to be the main cast.
At one point Joyce was going around drawing dicks on peoples white boards(I don't know), and Carla mentioned that it was a hate crime till she found out everybody else had one too.
It didn't take much to figure that out.
Asshole characters are fine, but it'd be an interesting thing to see a bigoted character not have to go through a character arc to become more accepting while still having the narrative not condone their behavior nor making them a "villain".
It'd be a hard line to walk to make it interesting and not frustrating.
As for Mary, she IS just pissed at Carla being annoying, but she's responding in unmeasured ways. Like reporting her would have been sensible, but instead she opted to wreck Carla's skates because Mary is NOT a mature person like she would like to be perceived, but a petty and spiteful person. Which is why she's now elevating it to very personal attacks.
And Ruth doesn't like Mary ANYWAY and being queer herself and attacking Carla's gender identity would likely be considered hatespeech, well she's got lots to get riled about. Predict that Mary will counter attack with her figuring out that Ruth and Billie are in a relationship.
Ruth's already been punched in the face.
By her now girlfriend.
Goddamn that relationship is unhealthy. But then, it's not like anyone is pretending it isn't.
Thinking about with how Carla is (or at least was in Shortpacked!), she probably would have become friends with Mary if they'd just kept pissing each other is silly childish ways...
He already did that in the last continuity.
>Dina has become Becky's pet
I know! It reminds me so much of my own relationship! IT'S GREAT!
They just need to add in bondage and orgasm denial and then I can sue Willis for publishing my life,
We don't yet know if Marcie is mute or voluntarily non-verbal. We know she did/could speak when she was a child.
And sign language is a versatile thing, so she totes could if she wanted.
Maybe this is all some meta kind of thing: The universe constantly being reset each time the Creator gets bored, and only a handful of characters are aware of what's going on. And together, they must punch the Creator in the junk and tell Him to knock that off.
It'll be when he gets caught with a young fan of his at a Con. She will be dressed up as Joyce and he won't be able to resist. His wife will leave him, take the kids, and all he'll be called a rapist by a very small group of idiots that believe anytime a man has sex with a woman it's rape.
There's a person stomping on roller skates outside your door because you two are currently in the middle of being assholes at each other. Do you:
>A: Call the RA or Residence Life to report the nuisance and let them deal with it
>B: Put on loud music and wait for the other students in your hall to get mad enough to tell her to fuck off
>C: Go for an uncalled for low-blow personal attack that has no bearing on anything.
Goddamn, Mary is a straight bitch. I'm not even going to say she's unrealistic because I've known people just like that; she's just a straight-up bad person.
That leads me to my next question: Why does Willis feel the need to make every antagonist in his comic a bigot again?
Not if you want them to suck your dick. One little letter is all you need to make them feel fluttery and willing to reinforce their role in life.
And let's face it, if you're posting on 4chan you want a redheaded boygirl to go down on you.
But he didn't even need to make her a bigot; she was already being an unrepentant asshole stick in the mud. He's writing a college-age webcomic; the no-fun-allowed fuddy-duddy is already an antagonist without needing to make them worse.
Yeah they do.
>>Not if you want them to suck your dick
Good thing I don't want that
If you're born with a dick, you're a guy.
Even if you get GRS surgery, you're still a guy. Just a mutilated one
What kind of faggot doesn't want a confused redheaded boygirl looking up at you through their bangs, sucking on your dick like your jizz is the secret to making their daddy love them again?
Does your gloryhole in the Castro district know you're missing?
I'm still surprised that Carla's stunned into silence by this.
I mean, Carla's an asshole. Less of an asshole than Mary, admittedly, but an asshole. She shouldn't need Ruth to cuss Mary out for her; she'd do it herself
"Faggot" would denote homosexual tendencies. Not wanting a guy to suck your dick would actually be the polar opposite of such.
>>Does your gloryhole in the Castro district know you're missing?
That would not be possible, as I do not make use of gloryholes, nor have I ever been to the Castro district. Don;t even know where that is to be honest.
By the way, I went back and found the pages where Sarah straight up admits that only ratted our her druggie roommate when her grades started to slip.
Which is fine, she's at college and she's there to learn, but before that and every strip afterwards she kept trying to make it sound like she was being blamed for doing the right thing.
I've never seen anyone redline this thing so hard. You're positively turgid with fagoscity.
American colleges use an alphabetical grading system, but they also do a 0-4 grading system in parallel. 4.0 = straight As, 3.0 straight Bs, etc. 3 As and 2 Bs would give you an overall 3.6 Grade Point Average for the semester.
America is dumb.
Honestly, I think people insist Toedad was sympathetic purely out of being contrary to whatever Willis wants to do. Even if you take out the bigotry, he was Standard Asshole Hyper-Controlling Parent #26.
It's just the standard Willis cycle of antagonists.
>Character does something
>Antagonist disagrees. May be blunt, but many times not completely unreasonable.
>People start saying "I like character, but antagonist may have a point there"
>Willis gets pissed, makes a few blogposts about how those people are closet bigots
>Next time antagonist shows up, s/he's all BOY HOWDY I SURE DO HATE THEM FAGS N' TRANNIES
>The audience now knows who's supposed to be right and we all move on to the next scene
Carla just being FREE and INDEPENDENT. Mary being annoyed that somebody's skating on the carpet outside her door while she's trying to study and sabotaging her skates is not enough, he has to show us that she's a damn dirty Christian bigot, so we'll all get the point about who's in the right here.
Naw, we've gone over this before. Willis legit has a backlog of up to four months worth of strips. It's obvious he posts strips to Patreon first so that if anything seems too problematic or sexist he can change them quick, like pic related, when he posts it to the actual site.
In the last universe it was established that Walky only gets with Dorothy in one other universe and shockingly it wasn't the DOA one, so I figured stuff like "Car = Trans" wasn't really important.
Yeah, Willis intended her to be a villain that everyone, including the readers, were supposed to hate. But he accidentally made her an interesting character and much more likeable than the designated "good" guys.
Sal dindu nuffin though.
Amber was already mentally unstable before the robbery and Sal repaid her debt to society. But now her dad is gone she needs a new scapegoat to justify playing hero.
>So Ruth, the person who treats everyone like complete shit is going to suddenly be "Oh no you didn't, there are lines not meant to be crossed" even though she's physically assaulted at least five people in the span of a month?
Don't forget her basically rapey advances towards Beth. Complete with negging and physical violence.
If Mary blurts out that freckles doesn't have her consent to speak to her, freckles has to just walk away, right? Respecting her boundaries and all that?
It's worth a try at least.
Which is a shame since i used to like him.
I loved It's Walky, Shortpacked and even early DoA. But then when he discovered that SJW liked his stuff instead of writing characters that happened to talk about that stuff occassionall he made them all cardboard hypocrites. at this point they are all as bad as mike who is supposed to be ann asshole.
>He's a man of limited life experience.
And most of that experience is either online Transformers fandom and his parents.
His primary MO is to be as much of a polar opposite of his parents as he can.
Granted he's now as big a zealot as he claims they are.
HAHAHAHAHAHA OH SHIT TRANNY BETTER HOP ON DOWN TO THE FUCKING BURN WARD
I don't follow this shit comic outside of occasionally looking at what's posted here but from what I gathered it's a comic where everyone is an asshole but the special snowflake assholes like trannies and dykes are "likeable" and justified in their assholery because they are special snowflakes.
I'm so glad I don't keep up with this train wreck on a regular basis. All I ever see are the strips posted here while browsing the catalog.
It seems like every character that is straight and Christian is instantly the villain, no matter what, where as anyone that is gay/trans/whatever is instantly the person to side with, despite how shallow or horrible Willis unintentionally makes them.
The guy's got problems is all I'm saying.
He's already done Dina in a sexy pose.
Nah. Some of his dialogue could read that his break only happened when his wife died, that he turned to religion for support in his time of crisis and fell in with bigots then. He was still an antagonist, but that would have made him much more of a realistic one.
Toedad is an iredeemable asshole because that's how Willis wrote him. Some anons just wish he wasn't like that, you know? That's why people were making edits to at least attempt to give Toe-dad some depth. Plus, that "clever girl" joke was cute.
Wasn't her roommate just smoking a lot of pot? Like...that was her downward spiral, she became a stoner out of grief? That isn't even that bad.
But really, there's nothing wrong with reporting your stoner roommate if they won't cut it the fuck back. It's a little harsh when your roommate is a stoner because they're depressed, but taking as basic an act as reporting a stoner and turning it into a Before and After divisive character moment's kinda...dumb.
>Why does Willis feel the need to make every antagonist in his comic a bigot again?
Because with everyone being an asshole in some form or another we need a line for the BAD PEOPLE to cross.
I'd rather see children get stabbed to show the level of badness. But that requires drawing a new panel.
I guess "i hate homosexuals" is the way to go if youre on the go comic artist and dont have time to write your comic.
I don't think the weed was the problem, it was just what Sarah used to get rid of the girl. The problem was the roommate's nonstop breakdowns were fucking up Sarah's sleep and studies.
And yes, it's pretty dumb. But it's DoA. It's literally in the title.
If you keep growing your nose like that, Pinocchio, soon it'll be even bigger than the boner you have for gay men
>The Volvo YCC ("Your Concept Car") was a concept car made by Volvo Cars presented at the 2004 Geneva Motor Show, with the stated goal of meeting the particular needs of female drivers. In order to do so, Volvo assembled a design team entirely made up of women, around October 01. It was a major exercise in ergonomics from the perspective of a female driver.
>On the outside the car looked, at first glance, like a mildly futuristic 4-seat coupé. On closer inspection one could see that there was no hood, that is, no access panel permitting access to the car’s engine. Engine maintenance required taking out the whole front end of the car body, preferably in some establishment with the required space and equipment. This was not supposed to happen often, as the engine was designed to need an oil change only after 50,000 km (31,000 mi) and to automatically send a radio message to a garage a short time before any required maintenance.
>Filling the windshield washer tank was done by a capless ball valve, right next to the capless gas tank ball valve. Volvo surveys had found (among many other things) that female drivers considered caps to be a major nuisance. The car featured run-flat tires, like those of wheeled armoured vehicles, in order to be able to drive all the way to a garage after a puncture and thus avoid having to change a tire by the side of the road.
>Entry into the car was by the means of two gull-wing doors on the sides. The concept was a 3-door, 4-seat coupe design. It also had an upwards opening hatchback door giving access to the trunk and cargo area. All 3 doors were motorized for a sensor-based “keyless” entry. Pressing on a single button on the keychain automatically opened the nearest door, making it easy for somebody holding bags of groceries or other sundries to get the things in the car without putting anything down. The interior was maximized for easy storage and good looks.
>The headrests had indentations to accommodate pony tails.
>It's a "Willis needs to confront his parents through a comic because he doesn't have the guts to do it in real life" arc
How refreshing and totally not uncomfortable to read, I look forward to the massive blog post at the end where he shockingly reveal that this arc was based off stuff he wanted to confront his mother about but hasn't.
Considering the very next thing to happen after this will be Joyce visiting her parents for Thanksgiving, I can't wait to see how that goes.
Man, reading the wiki description it's half-forwarded-from-grandpa email joke about women, half-reality.
The run-flat tires, gull-wing doors, and door-opening keychain buttons actually sound kinda cool. But having no hood is so retarded as to beggar belief, and I say that as someone who pays 30 bucks to get his oil changed even though I know I could do it myself.
are there actually no administrators or any legitimate form of supervision in the college? I mean I wouldn't blame them if the actual explanation why shit in this comic is allowed to happen is because everyone in charge just decided to up and leave making this a college version of camp weedonwantcha but at least there should be someone these people can bring these petty grievances too before starting a pronoun war
I know Willis is an ignorant manchild who views everything in life through the lens of Transformers, but does equating a car who transforms into a robot with transgenderism actually go over well with the LGBT audience? Because if it was me I would be at best mildly offended.
it's more than that; tell someone Carla is skating down the halls and disrupting residents, tell someone Mary damaged personal property, tell someone Carla is flagrantly targeting a student with her behavior, tell someone Mary acted insensitively against someone's gender identity and that would actually be a better story, seeing how the administration would deal with verbal hate speech while the victim is a serial nuisance breaking dorm rules. Do you punish both accordingly and then do the other shitty characters get up in arms for the school punishing tran-tran because it's a victim?
>Sal hears Christian Gurl was mean to her car friend
>Beats the poopy out of her
>Amazigirl/Amber goes after her and gets her arrested because she assaulted someone and that's a crime
>This has consequences since Sal was in juvie or something I dunno
>Everyone turns on Amazigirl because they feel Sal was justified in what she did
>Amber has a breakdown because everyone is taking the side of her scapegoat for being this mentally unstable
>Gets hit by truck
>Danny and Ethan bang
Figured it all out, how do I set up a Patreon Account?
>Amazi-Girl/Amber goes after her and gets her arrested because she assaulted someone and that's a crime
You do realize she'll be arrested as well right? She's smacked around dozens of guys by this point and I'm betting none of the women they were harassing came forward or anything.
But then again this is Willis so he'll probably just have the cops(or the one black female cop on the force) totes be okay with her vigilantism for some bullshit reason.
>Amazigirl confronts her in public
>Says some pseudo-bullshit to feel superior
>Sal turns around and Amazigirl is gone
>Something something anonymous tip something something
i said it before, this is the college version of Katie's camp comic, it's just a boat load of shitty kids no one wants dumped into this lord of the flies university where Social Justice is the pig head on a stick
>The problem was the roommate's nonstop breakdowns were fucking up Sarah's sleep and studies.
I'm still not seeing a problem here. If she won't get help and nobody else will back you up forcing her to get help, what the fuck are you supposed to do? Grin, bear it, and just martyr your life for her?
I know it sounds cold, but her mother just died. If she's THAT affected by it she shouldn't be in school. She should be at home with her family to help her through their mutual grief instead of away at college.
In any Sal/Amazi-girl conflict, Sal will ALWAYS come out on top, even if it's just a moral victory. Remember: Amazi-Girl had traumatic bullshit and an emotionally abusive father, and Sal had mumble mumble inter-racial couples can be racist according to this anecdotal evidence mumble mumble
She's violating school rules and violating her lease and involving the school threatens to bring that whole thorny issue along with legal consequences on top of getting her kicked out of school.
Neither of the choices are good or less than messy, it's Dobson's choice: no matter what she'd done things would have blown up for her in some way, so she chose the choice that allowed her to continue doing her studies, and which seemed to minimise the harm down to her room mate.
Hey, the couple that keeps a suicide pact together, stays together.
I'm not saying she has to bring up the pot thing, though, just that 1) she and her roommate are having issues and 2) She's worried about the emotional state of her roommate. She had this kind of attitude of "oh no one understands I'm all alone in this" while not using any of the support structures to help either herself or her roommate. This makes it worse when she tries to take the moral high ground when talking about it.
the school is powerless to help anyone. From penalizing someone skating down the halls to responding to an armed man firing a rifle on school grounds, authority is an illusion in that place
As much as I hate Jeph Jacques, Willis is so much worse.
Willis actually disgusts me.
Willis is basically his idea of his parents.
He's like a fundamentalist with Jesus replaced by Social Justice.
The worst part is that he thinks he's escaped his upbringing, when really their mindset controls him.
This is the father of twins. Those fucking kids are going to be skinheads if they break away from him like he did from his parents.
am i remembering wrong or does Willis really like to hit the alcohol hard during conventions? I might be basing this off his friend's comic strips that depict him that way but alcoholism is usually one of the coping mechanisms for that sort of thing
I dunno, man, but if half of what I've heard about him is true, he's one screwed up individual.
It sucks, I recall his It's Walky comics being rather enjoyable. Though maybe that's just in retrospect...
I'd like to say I'd be wholly against the idea even with that being said, but assuming Carla's at least a passable trans(as Willis' art seems to imply) and her wearing those thighhighs and absurdly short skirt, I'd probably have my dick out within a second of her blushing.
I'm beyond hope anyway.
Friendly reminder that
>Sal will never have to deal with any repercussions of her actions.
>Nobody will be able to tell that Amber is Amazi-Girl aside from the main cast.
>Joyce's rapist will never be caught.
>Willis will continue to try and force Becky into everything
>Ruth and Billie will never confront their problems and will continue to be the "lol we're drunk and fucked up" couple.
>Nobody will ever call out Willis for having the only two black characters hook up.
>Willis probably doesn't use coasters.
>Willis probably doesn't use coasters.
Well it was attempted rape. Joyce went to a party with Billie and what's her name, the one fucking the whiter twin, and apparently her Sprite was spiked? Some dude pretending to be super Christian(because of course), then tried to force her into the bathroom so he could stick his dick in her pooper.
Then Sarah showed up and beat the shit out of him with a bat.
Then Amazi-Girl showed up, got everyone distracted, and the rapist got away.
It was horrible.
So is this like a real life version of that car Homer built?
...is Willis that obsessed over his past or is he just a bad writer?
This man is going to be the father of twins, or despite the way he looks he might be actually a really butch lesbian.
I have no fucking idea. I mean there was one Christian dude who was wondering why there weren't any positive portrayals of Christians in DoA, Willis posted a picture of BECKY, and shit went downhill from there, but that was just one guy.
Only thing I can assume is that he anticipated people would call bullshit on this.
Maybe Jesus just likes dressing up as a fireman.
I'm guessing he's preemptively cutting off discussion before pulling the trans Drama Tag.
Being an online personality is easy when you have absolute control over the forums and discussion, and being able to ban on a lark.
Not that. That he'd make it very clear who is right and who is wrong in this argument.
Surprisingly his fans started pointing this shit out a little while ago when Amber flipped out on Danny for kissing HER in public, even though he's dating Amazi-Girl, and he made it seem like Danny was at fault for triggering her or some shit.
Then people in the comments didn't buy it, or at least not nearly as many as he's used to, and now Amber looks even more like a psychotic bitch than before.
Yeah, I noticed his Patreon cred has stayed pretty solid even after they revised totals. As opposed to Jeph Jacques, who lost like two grand.
noun big·ot \ˈbi-gət\
Simple Definition of bigot: a person who strongly and unfairly dislikes other people, ideas, etc. : a bigoted person; especially : a person who hates or refuses to accept the members of a particular group (such as a racial or religious group)
You know what would be interesting? A rape victim, so triggered by men, that she refuses to see a transexual woman as anything other than a potential rapist.
Well, not "interesting", in the sense that I'd want to read it, but more in the "how would Willis strawman one of them without losing SJW points" sense.
I am a transphobe, but not a bigot. I disagree that they are the gender they claim to be. I do not believe gender is a social construct, or even distinct from sex. That does not make me a bigot. They are the bigots, because when I voice my opinion publicly, I'm compared to Adolf Hitler and reported for hate speech.
Why do you fags keep talking about this so much if you hate it and/or think it is terrible? You are just giving him the attention he wants and being the bully that he wants so he gets pity from his fans.
I'm here for the actual comic discussion that occasionally happens in these threads.
And for Patreon Anon.
WHO ISN'T DOING THEIR FUCKING JOB.
Willis posted in the alt text that he expected me to draw Leslie with the sandwich board and so I was tempted to draw this.
>I'm compared to Adolf Hitler and reported for hate speech.
You're not reported for hate speech, no one would seriously do that since Trans people aren't really protected by all that. I mean if you can't file for unlawful termination then you can't file for hate speech.
But then 2 days later I also felt tempted to draw this.
>You're not reported for hate speech, no one would seriously do that since Trans people aren't really protected by all that.
Where the fuck do you live?
Sounds like a shithole mate.
Banned from Facebook, suspended from college. Hate speech.
>Well, you're, ya know, scientifically wrong.
I'm scientifically wrong? Tell me more.
>And, by definition a bigot.
Notice I said "tell me more." I'm open to new ideas. I am not a bigot. Why do people keep equating transphobia with bigotry, even after the literal definition of bigorty was posted?
This is exactly what I'm talking about. I'm not saying transgender people are evil or stupid, I'm saying they're wrong, either because they've been misled by the people around them or because they're lying to themselves. So, when people tell me they disagree with me, are they bigots?
So your assertion is not that you hate, dislike or think ill of them but that they are so fundamentally incapable of either cognition or honesty that they are either wrong about their own gender or lying to you?
In large swathes of the US it is not illegal to fire/evict/not hire someone due to gender or sexual orientation. Fuck, last year Arkansas tried to pass to make it so cities could not prohibit it (an anti-anti-discrimination bill, if you will)
That fucking cunt? Mary didn't do shit.
And he also closed the comment's because he knows even his retard fans wouldn't hate anyone just for being Christian like he does
>So, when people tell me they disagree with me, are they bigots?
Depends on what they disagree about, with transgender people some of the people saying their transgender probably aren't and are just getting confused since Jenner turned it into a fad fashion statement.
However there is biological evidence that it's caused by neurological formation in the womb, and there's historical evidence that transgender people existed since ancient Greece. I mean that doesn't mean you have to agree with them on the semantics of the word gender, but at the same time society is incredibly gender rigid, so until someone displaying the behaviors of the opposite gender aren't told "That's not how your gender is supposed to act." then it's honestly just easier for them to transition genders.
It's a mental illness, like being bipolar or having chronic depression.
There's no reason to hate or dislike people who have those problems, you just wish psychiatry was advanced enough to actually help them accept themselves.
>There's no reason to hate or dislike people who have those problems, you just wish psychiatry was advanced enough to actually help them accept themselves.
Transitioning is the treatment. The only problem is that you're unwilling to accept the self that doesn't conform with your perception.
Everybody shut the fuck up for a moment.
Are we sure that Patreanon is still alive? How do we know that they haven't been kidnapped and/or accosted by Willis' goons from Slipshine?
We gotta get Patreanon back.
WE GOTTA GET PATREANON BACK
>you just wish psychiatry was advanced enough to actually help them accept themselves
This isn't on psychiatry this is on societal gender norms. There's not much to do to help a kid not dissociate from their gender during development when we treat generic behaviors in a very polarized way instead of a fluid way.
Transitioning is as much of a treatment as pouring drain cleaner in your eyes because you for some reason believe you're supposed to be blind WHICH MIGHT I ADD IS A THING THAT HAS ACTUALLY HAPPENED.
That's the joke idiot. I know that you're an idiot but since this is 4chan I misspell it to insult you even more. Because then it looks like an idiot is calling you an idiot. But you were too dumb to even get that so I have to spend time explaining to an idiot what an idiot he is. So thanks, idiot.
Dark brown hair, brown eyes.
No really, I would date this girl if I was in college.
She seems like the bitchy type also.
Dammit Willis, why do you hate her? You already make Joyce a bitch also
>Transitioning is as much of a treatment as pouring drain cleaner in your eyes because you for some reason believe you're supposed to be blind WHICH MIGHT I ADD IS A THING THAT HAS ACTUALLY HAPPENED.
it's easier and healthier to change the body, than the mind.
I don't care that that's a thing that happened.
Someone, maybe you, even admitted that the care to correct the brain plainly doesn't exist yet and may never exist. If the problem is a mismatch and you can't fix one half, you fix the other. Simple.
Those aren't really comparable because for the most part to transition you need to go to doctor's and psychiatrists who make sure you are trans and then they give you hormones, and surgery is wanted
I don't fucking know, man. All I know is that when I was growing up, "gender" was what people said when "sex" made them feel dirty. Now, sex doesn't exist and everything's all about gender. I never signed up for this "gender" thing. I just said I was a boy because I had a penis. I feel no attachment to masculinity or whatever it entails.
SO YOU'RE SAYING YOU EITHER DIE A HERO OR LIVE LONG ENOUGH TO SEE YOURSELF BECOME A VILLAIN?
Not so much death, and not really a villain role either.
It's more like "You either get forgotten about, or you end up being a 'multi-faceted' strawman for whatever case Willis feels like shitting on this month."
Or something like that.
This is actually a lot better than what I expected. Good art and good humor -- better than what Willis has been shilling, desu
you need to draw more lewds though. maybe us looking up Carla's skirt
Having had a best friend who out of the blue decided he wanted to be a girl instead, I have reason to believe that gender dysphoria is pretty closely linked to a plethora of other mental disorders, since he'd been fucked up in the head in several other ways- compulsive liar, attention-deficit, histrionic, etc.. Basically, I consider it taking the easy way out to just get surgery to turn yourself into a girl with non-working girl parts, as a means to fix a more underlying problem. It would be one thing if suicide rates weren't astronomically high for post-ops, but they are.
The comparison I was trying to make is that one of those things is a clearly insane and damaging procedure for a problem that only exists within the sufferer's mind, that any reputable doctor would NOT allow under any circumstances. The other thing is an insane and damaging procedure for a problem that only exists within the sufferer's mind that is apparently encouraged and celebrated.
I guess a better comparison to make would be in regards to that guy who believed he was a cat and got countless plastic surgery operations to appear that way; but then, that's all it is, plastic surgery, not 6 months to a few years of total hormone imbalancement followed by genital surgery.
Not that anon, but I simply don't understand why it has to be complicated. I guess it just doesn't really make sense to me why it has to be such a distinguished thing. If anything the only reason that it's such an issue is because people put limits onto what is "boy stuff" and "girl stuff" in the first place.
Dunno about Blaine nor the attempted rape. Tell me more.
But I was totes there for Toedad. That's the only reason these threads are still around; inside, we're all hoping for a new Toedad.
Like I said before, what Willis needs to do is have more guns pulled on people.
>Having had a best friend who out of the blue decided he wanted to be a girl instead, I have reason to believe that gender dysphoria is pretty closely linked to a plethora of other mental disorders, since he'd been fucked up in the head in several other ways- compulsive liar, attention-deficit, histrionic, etc.. Basically, I consider it taking the easy way out to just get surgery to turn yourself into a girl with non-working girl parts, as a means to fix a more underlying problem. It would be one thing if suicide rates weren't astronomically high for post-ops, but they are.
I'm glad we had this talk about applying your anecdotal perspective to a percentage point of the population.
Suicide rates are a thing, but they're also prevalent with those who can't transition and usually come along with unsupportive or outright abusive surroundings. It's not hard to see how living some or even most of your life with almost every single action being colored in a sense of "I don't feel like I am who I am." Fucks you up.
>just get surgery
It's not like the majority fly to Thailand and get it in an alley- part of the process is a shit-ton of consultation and psychiatric evaluation.
I mean I'm sure some people buy cow hormones or whatever, but it's not the norm.
>The comparison I was trying to make is that one of those things is a clearly insane and damaging procedure for a problem that only exists within the sufferer's mind, that any reputable doctor would NOT allow under any circumstances.
The... wide majority of the medical community does though. It's the on the books treatment. There are programs and everything for it at this point.
If that's your standard for reputable then we're deep in the shitter because at this point there have to be more who are going to advise starting the checking procedures for transitional treatment than there are ones who are just going to say "It's in your head." and go golfing.
Joyce's attempted rapist is explained here >>79146237
Blaine is Amazi-Girl/Amber's dad, who was established in Shortpacked as an abusive criminal. In DoA, he shows up on the college's parent-visitation day, Amber and Ruth kick him off-campus for being an abusive shit, he lures Amber away from campus using Danny as bait, only for Amazi-Girl to kick his ass.
It's basically Toedad with a lot of things fixed. No wonky chase physics (besides the usual 'how can Amber/Amazi-Girl pull that off without doing any exercise' bit), Blaine's characterization is more ironclad than Toedad's, no extraneous characters getting involved for no reason.
It still baffles me that he managed to fuck up the Toedad arc so badly when he could have just basically done Blaine again and no one would have complained.
I mean, he did basically copy the Blaine plot, but then he added all the really stupid bits.
I also wish it were less complicated and that there were no divides, but but there's not actually a way to fix that as far as I can see. In the meantime there's a reason it's called "Dysphoria" and not slight discomfort syndrome, Shit fucking sucks in a big way. Especially when you're being attacked (Up to and including physical assaults and murders for it) on top of the either perpetual or periodic physical and mental feeling of wrong that your subconscious screams at you. Everything I've heard from actual, informed people with the best interests of trans people at heart is that in some cases transitioning really is the best solution while most of what I hear out of the other side tends to switch between Satan did it or electroshock should have never gone out of style, which don't seem to be practical solutions to the problem.
I agree with you about the comic, although lately he's gotten even more heavy handed usual. But if we're talking in terms of best girl, Sierra's got her beat.
You know, I was going to say that it is stupid to hate Mary for bitching about this car-fag not letting her study when Joyce rommie got a girl expelled for that.
But then I went back to that page where she delivers the absolute truth to Dina and saw that everybody hates her also, so yeah anyway...
Oh, I don't got any issue with trans people. Do what you gotta do to be happy. It currently doesn't effect me at all. My only issue is when people jump down my throat for saying I don't agree with their principle of Gender vs. sex. I get that YOU don't feel comfortable in your body and identify as a girl, but why am I a bad person if I just don't adhere to that same belief. If I don't think you're a girl and you're just a guy with a mental disconnect that causes you to have sexual phantom limb syndrome, that doesn't make me right or a bigot or something. It can be annoying and turns me off of all trans people cuz of how demanding the vocal minority seem to be about how to speak to them.
>If I don't think you're a girl and you're just a guy with a mental disconnect that causes you to have sexual phantom limb syndrome, that doesn't make me right or a bigot or something.
Because at it's core transitioned or not acceptance of that identity is one of the things that helps Dysphoria to not have a negative impact on your life, and the people who you're telling this to probably hear it a lot. From friends, family, strangers, and it beats down on you and tells you you're fucked no matter what you do.
The list of emotional responses they can have to that is pretty short, and none of them are very good.
Your comment made me realize why society sucks shit at gradual social changes. It's because there's no room for things to be 50-50 in the public mind, everything has to be DECIDED and fuck you if your side is losing.
(Sorry it took so long to respond. I had to go take care of some things.)
Maybe I am just lashing out because the world has changed. That raises a question, though. Why HAS the world changed? Where was the trans* movement a decade ago? Remember Mr. Garrison's Fancy New Vagina? That was the extent of cultural awareness. It didn't even confront the idea that sex and gender were two different things, but it acknowledged that some people might want to have their genitals altered. That was a reality I could live with.
Mary is the hero we need but not the one we deserve.
Likes been said earlier trans people have been around, but not given publicity or attention. Oftentimes in our history being gay or transsexual meant you were going to be beaten to death, so obviously there wasn't huge appeal in being out.
The internet causing an increase in how quickly information is disseminated, various governmental fuck-ups post-WWII causing people to trust less in the mainstream and looking for alternative ideas, milestones like the civil rights movement and the Stonewall Riots giving the marginalized more hope about changing their situation.
That's just three. Long story short, we're in the golden age of getting ideas out into the world
Now there's an interesting thought. A few decades from now, young people might be referring to their "SJW parents" the way that current young people refer to their "fundie parents".
Ohh, that's why Ruth was shoehorned into this conversation.
Goddammit, Willis, was it really necessary to bring in the trans joke? Ruth could have been called in when A. Carla was making a ruckus; B. When Mary screwed up her skates. You just threw in the transphobic bit to codify Mary as the 'bad guy' when most of your fans already think she's an asshole.
Also, note that Mary's dipping into old-timey religious language ('Defiling'? Really?), just like Toedad did when Willis double-downed on how terrible he is
>Long story short, we're in the golden age of getting ideas out into the world
And unfortunately also in an age where certain ideas are considered "correct" and anything arguing against that is immediately shunned and rebuked. Basically, we've completely flipped around; like >>79148951
said, in the past coming out might mean getting beaten to death- in the world we live in now, stating any opinion on trans people that doesn't align with the "right" idea essentially means the death of your internet personality, which all of a sudden means a hell of a lot.
>Implying they would have time to have a Boring hederonormaltive He/she baby making relationships when Trans-black xirs are being oppress raped by the white man's police.
I expect SJW Aunt/Uncle to replace Spinster/Creepy Aunt/Uncle.
Everyone is horrible but the villain is a bigot so nothing they do has a point ever.
It's like those romance comics where the love interest is such an asshole that to make the audience like him the author brings in a guy that's even more of an asshole instead of making the love interest just not so fucking terrible.
>being gay or transsexual
And this is another gripe I have. The LGBTQ stuff. Why is being transgender or "queer" (that's just the special snowflake "look at me, I'm using a slur ironically" version of trans*) associated with homosexuality? They're two totally separate things. Homosexuality is reasonable and understandable to me.
You're okay with one and not the other but a lot of people sectioned them off as equally evil/stonable/what have you.
It's common sense for marginalized groups to associate their advocacy with one another and to support one another.
There were actually at least three subtle hints to it so far. One was when Carla said there was a reason for why she's so tall, and another was when she initially thought the dick drawn on her whiteboard was a hate crime. It's also been mentioned that she has "a single room all to herself for some reason". I don't think it's been made explicitly clear until now though.
God damn that chick is stone cold.
I think the author fucked up somewhere - you're not supposed to root for the villain in these stories and yet this chick is 100% right and justified in her actions.
People generally associate gender role orientation with nonhetero sexuality. Like how gay guys are stereotyped into loving fashion and lesbians are stereotyped into being jocks. Blame mainstream society, not LGBT people
And I've heard queer more often in the context of sexual orientation, desu. I mean, genderqueer's a thing, but that's different
So it looks like that last panel takes place indoor. I'm guessing it's the mother's garage?
So Malaya is breaking and entering now if that's the case
Also, working off the presumptions that it's the mother's car and it's inside a garage, it's parked inside diagonally
>I think the author fucked up somewhere - you're not supposed to root for the villain in these stories and yet this chick is 100% right and justified in her actions.
That's the best strength of his writing though. Despite Willis having his own views that he believes very strongly in, the comic doesn't force them down readers' throats. Mary (or any other character) can be a hero or a villain, and it all depends on the reader's point of view, as is the case with people and situations in the real world.
I want to hate Mary here, but if you erase the transphobic remark and the Toedadish religious undertones, she's totally in the right here. And the sad thing is, knowing how Willis is and knowing that Ruth gets away with terrorizing freshman specifically because her bosses like her, this will probably go nowhere in the end.
Dammit, Willis, I liked not liking Mary.
>the comic doesn't force them down readers' throats
Yeah, that's only because Willis does the throat-stuffing outside the comic more often than inside these days.
You should have seen him in Shortpacked, AKA the Strawman Days
HOLY SHIT MARY JUST MADE RUTH SUCK HER DICK
This is genuinely the most interesting thing that's happen in the entire 5.33 years this comics been around for.
Finally an actual antagonist/not laughably evil character.
This will be Mary in next week's comics.
ONE HUNDRED PER-CENT
Get that bitch a towel, shes out of there!
>in the past coming out might mean getting beaten to death
It still kinda means that now, people like Caitlyn Jenner aren't gonna get beat to death obviously, because they're a rich celebrity. However the people who are struggling and not that well off still get killed quite often. Just not the same white suburban yahoos who yell at people on the internet.
Why is everyone saying she got schooled? This girl is just bringing up sex and the fact that the Trans-Am is there. Colleges don't care if kids have sex, and if the Car is already there then they must have had some sort of okay and special situation set up. Is this like some sort of Jesuit College or something where that stuff is illegal?
BEHOLD! THE NEXT COMIC!
(willis has turned comments on today's comic off btw)
Yeah, but if they're still people suffering from gender dysphoria and trying their hardest to live the way they want with what they can, do they not count as trans? I mean yes there's a difference between drag hobbyists and trans people, but it's not surgery, if someone is trying to pass in everyday life they're trans.
>been fucking around instead of doing her job
>letting a man in a dress live in the girls dorm
I mean its not rocket science why shes up shit creek without a paddle
I'm sure the dumbass who writes this fucking crap will make it so Mary is somehow in the wrong, but I literally spent a semester dorming with a tranny because no amount of gender crisis means you get to dorm with the actual opposite sex. And I went to a liberal college.
Private rooms often have their own bathrooms in my experience, and I'm saying if she's assigned to a private room there it means she probably already worked something out with the school and already went through all the proper channels.
Mary is most likely about to march ruthless over to Joyce's room to reveal that becky lives there when she's already moved to sleeping in Sal's room, and from there Ruthless points out that unless Mary has actual proof that she fraternised with asianface she's not actually got anything on her that she can take to campus authorities that Ruthless can't just deny.
And then Amazigirl and Sal descend from the ceiling on wires and proceed to beat on mary for 20 strips because willis has no sense of subtly.
decades of research, centuries of mentions, along with transition being the only treatment that actually works
doctors don't care about your discomfort, they care about keeping their patients alive
>this personal is ill, and we have the brainscans showing their symptoms
>of all the treatments we've tried, gender reassignment has the best success in cases that meet certain criteria
>until we find a better solution we are going to keep treating people with what we have
In that case, furries and diaper fetishists should join LGBTQ, because getting found out can easily cost you your job. No, seriously. I'm not being sarcastic. Oh, and don't forget people with fringe political views, like.. uhhh, I dunno, holocaust denial?
When did Mary learn Becky, the perverted vagrant, move in?
Like I checked the archive and as far as I can see, she never learned that.
As far as can I recall all she knows is that Ruth and Billie are fucking.
What was the entire point of the trans insult? To just further hammer in that Mary is evil and therefore wrong?
Willis did this before where people asked if maybe Sal had misinterpreted her parents and was simply using them as a scapegoat, and he got buttmad and went off about how no they were racist and therefore their opinion is invalidated.
Same with Toedad, he got pissy and claimed people were making "Hallmark shit" when he saw the edits to the Toedad ending.
For him there's no grey area, there's only good and bad.
Remember, you always have two options:
-- A line which is leading and lets the reader understand where it's going on their own
-- "On the nose"
Always choose the second.
>It's common sense for marginalized groups to associate their advocacy with one another and to support one another.
Spoken like a millennial who doesn't know how much drama was involved with L and G coming together never mind B.
> b-b-but it sounds right in my head so it must be right
read a book nigger
>I like dicks and I have a dick
OK, homosexual behavior isn't unfounded in animals, and its not like it affects other people
>I have a dick but I believe I'm a woman, you must respect my "right" to use the women's bathroom and treat me as a woman legally because if you don't you'll hurt my feelings and I'll sue you
Do you not see the problem? Its a bunch of loonies trying to get the world to bend to their insanity, but wait, its somehow okay because gays are accepted.
It's pretty obvious this will only be short lived.
Mary just wants some peace and quiet so she can study, like a good Christian girl.
It's not her fault her roommate is some loud, obnoxious sicko, that probably insults her faith daily. She's simply at her limit.
>Despite Willis having his own views that he believes very strongly in, the comic doesn't force them down readers' throats.
What the fuck is this? Who are these retards and why are they posting in /co?
wait... Shes supposed to be a villain? Not seeing anything villainous in her actions either, fag wouldnt stop skating in the dmn halls while tryin to study, personally woulda choked out a sumbitch fer that.
you forgot pablo
everyone forgets Pablo because no one cares about Pablo even with all the tits he draws
I kinda had a similar experience as that guy, though my friend just turned out to be gay.
Basically had a bunch of issues, then came out and said "I'm gay" and decided to marry some kid from across the country who he'd never met. It was pretty clear to everyone who knew about the affair that the guy was likely just luring him away to become a sex slave or something but he was so desperate for pooper love that he stole his mother's car and flew off anyway.
Which, among a couple other examples I've come across, leads me to agree that something like that is probably a disorder to be worked on.
Oh man, remember how much black people hate LGBT groups comparing themselves to civil rights?
Like, old black people especially, the ones who went on marches and were attacked by dogs and riot cops and shit.