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Why do reactionary comics always have such awful art

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Why do reactionary comics always have such awful art
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Same reason 99% of comics have such awful art, most artists are awful.
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Because the goal is to make a quick buck on inflammatory material, not quality material.
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I'm pretty sure Mystique counts as trans. That guy/girl/thing from Doom Patrol. The Skrull from Runaways. I'm sure I'm missing some.
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>>79095947
Regular capeshit have awful art and regular indie shit have awful art so i am guessing they just have no money to pay some good artist.
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>prose stories about a universe where superhumans are real
disgusting
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>>79096007
Mystique is a shapeshifter and therefore cannot be constrained with the our gender identity nomenclature.
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>>79095947
>The first Trans superhuman

That's a pretty big fuck you to Rebis.
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>>79095947
4chan, your assignment:

find the article,
proxy account,

troll the hell outta the comments with the truth


the future is in your hands, 4chan!
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>>79096131
and Coagula
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>>79095947
>Barely any reactionary shit in French comics
>quality of the illustrations are consistently very high

Hum
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>>79096198
barbwire.com/2016/01/18/first-transgender-superhuman/

>>79096131
>>79096225
>implying the author actually reads comics
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>>79096131
Literally who
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>>79095947

Didn't superman not change sex even once during the silver age?
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You guys are harsh, that art isn't that bad.
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>>79096198

They do it anyway you fucking idiot. Half the views on this article and 99% of the views on the sjw blogs praising it will be from /co/
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>>79096131
>>79096242
It's "first" in the story's universe, like how Linkara called Lightbringer "The First Superhero."
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>>79096256

Go back to your blackest wars and secret crisis bullshit, fucking casuals
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>>79096274
>You guys are harsh, that art isn't that bad.
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>>79095947
That's just the title of the fucking thing.
This article doesn't claim this is the actual first transgender cape character.
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>Superheroes who consider coming out as LGBT but need to tell the public that they exist at all before that
Is this just sloppy storytelling or a metaphor for the invisibility of LGBT people?
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>>79095947
There have been not-quite-trans characters since the 40's (Ultra-Humaite), but the first trans hero was Sir Tristan in Camelot 3000 in the early 1980's. First trans super human would have been Walter "Sasquatch" Langkowski from Alpha Flight who died and was reborn by magic as a woman in a stroryline in the mid 80's.

http://www.tgfa.org/

http://www.autostraddle.com/the-complete-history-of-transgender-characters-in-american-comic-books-316126/
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>>79096322
Eat a dick you pretentious shit
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>>79096259

It was a dream sequence I think.

Also Mantra from Malibu Comics.
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>>79096256
A legit cool character from a legit cool comic (Grant Morrison's Doom Patrol).

Read comics before coming on this board, noob.
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>>79095947
so... wait, the book is called first transgender superhuman? So this article isn't an article, it's an ad pimping his new book?
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>>79096347
>Men who magically reincarnate as women whether they want to or not
>Transgender
This meme has to stop.
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>first superhuman is named Adam White
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>>79096384
>pretentious drug induced morronson meta garbage
No thanks
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>>79096340
>that terrible Midnighter costume
Thank god they got rid of it now.
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>>79096443
Morrison didn't do drugs while writing Doom Patrol, he was still straight edge.

He just didn't sleep.
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>>79095947
How is this reactionany and not SJW?
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>>79096493
As far as I understand, SJW want to change existent content to adapt to their ideas, this, on the other hand, is something entirely new.
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>nobody ever says transgender, transsexual, or transvestite anymore
>now we just say trans and everyone is expected to know what it means
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>>79096465
I find that hard to believe. Dude is stone 24/7
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>>79096493
>How is this reactionany and not SJW?
Because the author doesn't like transgendered people.
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>>79096285
I understand, but that's still bullshit.

So does that make everything DC has done since Nu52 "The First" in comics now? Is Aquaman now "The First" aquatic superhero?

How fucking arbitrary.
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>>79096405
If they believe they are the opposite sex how does it not fall under the umbrella, other than it's not possible in real life.
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>>79096007
That guy from Youngblood who blew up Saddam Hussein's head
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>>79096631
He started when he did Invisibles, and then cut back a lot starting with the Filth.

He doesn't do anything harder than pot now, and not that much at that.
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>>79096631

He hasn't done drugs in almost two decades. Stop listening to /co/ memes, the people on this board don't read comics.
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>>79096655
>Saddam Hussein
It was Hassan Kussein you pleb.
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>>79096650
Trans people are born with brain problens. These characters, don't.
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>>79096464
>not loving Chinspiker
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>>79096007
There was also a reformed superheroine from a recent Astro City. That story has a nice swerve to it, but I can't remember the details.

Why are modern journalists so quick to claim something as the first of its kind? Is there a rule against using Google Search that journos have to follow or something?
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bullshit marketing
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>>79095947
Wait, is this even a comic or it just prose? If it's just prose, then this belongs on /lit/ not /co/.
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>>79096719
>Trans people are born with brain problens.

source?
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>>79096634
And?
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>>79096736
hmmm.. then again, Mystique technically would be gender fluid
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>>79095947
ANAD Marvel beat them to it.
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>>79096719
Their brain doesn't match their bodies? How is that not a brain problem?
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>>79096747
Its the cause of dysphoria.
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>>79096723
Plebs anon, best to ignore them.
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>>79096749
>And?
And he made it as a reaction to perceived SJW overthrowing of society
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>>79095947
> First transgender Superhuman
What is a shapeshifter? for $500
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>>79096812

source?
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>>79096846
Genderfluid and magic since they don't have a set gender?
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>>79095947
> the leaders of the U.S. have used in their unrelenting jihad against America

stopped reading right there
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>>79096791
Their mind, not their brains. Of you are reborn as a woman, your brain is all configured to be like a woman brain.


Trans people have a small part of the brain,configured for the other sex, that keep telling them that they are e the opposite sex. Its a physical issue, a small part of the body that was configured as it was from the other sex. It woudn't be there if it is just transformation, or if the character is reborn.
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>>79096747
>>79096872
>Muh societal stressors
>Nut muh problem, it's muh society's problem
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>>79095947
jesus fucking christ that fucking first sentence, this is pure brain poison.
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>>79096907
You have TF fetish don't you?

Something about turning naughty men into docile women that serve you, I'm sure. How did they hurt you?
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been there, done that
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>>79096723
I want to hold him.
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>>79096884
>they don't have a set gender?
they have, though. Mystique is a woman by default.
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>>79096930

>meme arrowing when asked to provide proof
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>>79096959
What the hell?
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>>79096994
We all are, if you count fetus as it always starts as female.
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Yseult from Demon Knights.
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>>79097014
>we are all little girls inside
I knew it.
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>>79097004
>If they turn into women they get lady brains.
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>>79095947
Why are these kinds of articles always written by white guys with beards?
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Reminds me of when journalists claimed Bobby/Ice-Man was the first gay X-Man.
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>>79096907
>Their mind, not their brains

But mind = brain
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>>79097062
Is like I'm really are in /a/!
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>>79096007
>>79096131
>>79096962

Nice try, but all of those are either shapeshifters or the trans equivalent of the discount lesbians.
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>>79097081
Well yes. If you change the body and the chromossomes, the brain changes its configuration too.
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>>79097111
Or when Northstar/Kyle was the first gay marriage in comics ever.

Comic journalism is a joke.
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>>79097149
>everybody forgetting this badass mofo
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>>79096907
its magic. you don't know how their brain is configured. if they SAY they are, then they are.

Many of these characters go to great lengths to say how uncomfortable they are in the opposite sex's body. Magically trans, but still trans.
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>>79097125
Its get complicated when you starting to include body swap, reaincarnation and etc.
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>>79096650
They do not consciously self-identify as female prior to the transformation, their transformation is not a purposeful result of that identity.
If anything, they accept that they're female because they have female bodies, which is basically the opposite of what it actually means to be transgender.
They reinforce the ideas that it's not possible to change one's gender in real life, and that your gender is designated by your body, which are completely at odds with what it means to be transgender in real life.
The fact that it can't happen in real life really ought to be enough to disqualify comparing these characters to real people whose experiences only overlap in the most remote, abstract sense possible.
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>>79096285

what a weird yet oddly informative comparison
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>>79097187

It was handled to well to be controversial.
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>>79097249
>and that your gender is designated by your body,

But its true. Thats why you need doctors to be really diagnosied with dysphoria.
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>>79097331

>too well
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>>79097357
doctors diagnose you because they get mad money from the pill industry, why do you think 90% of the recent transgender people are american? Nothing is more profitable than selling a life long treatment to a white middle class man.
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>>79095947
>thread full of butthurt faggots.
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Reactionaries tend to be batshit crazy and have no talent except for their crazy, same for extreme radicals. With a few notable exceptions of course.

Also once something exists just to support someone's psychotic ramblings about the government coming for their teeth it's not going to be good in a traditional sense anyway so why bother. Only other nutcases who want to circlejerk will buy it and don't give a shit about the quality.
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>>79096846

A shapshifter isn't necessarily transgender, not even necessarily "non-binary" or "genderfluid", because they might be quite confident in their gender identity despite their ability to change sex at will (alternatively, they might be totally confused about it for the same reason).

>>79096007

The Doom Patrol had a genuinely transgender member at one point, Coagula. You'd think DC would dredge her up for some diversity points. Maybe they just don't want to pay her creator.
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>>79097249
go away tumblr
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>>79095947
Where is my superhero with Downs?
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>>79095947
>Transgender Superhuman
>It's never a guy who used to be a woman
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>>79095947
When are transgenders gonna stop trying to make people think it's perfectly okay to mutilate yourself and live a lie? Shit man, just make the hero a trap.
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>>79097436
That was kind of the opposite of tumblr....or not... I am confused now.
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>>79096650
GambitXCourier is my OTP.
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>>79097462
Do you even Unbeatable Squirrel Girl, soldier?
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>>79096464
literally the only thing wrong with the costume is the stupid spikes

there's plenty ELSE wrong with that portrayal of Midnighter but the costume itself, aside from that one element, looks fine
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>>79097436

Brilliant comeback, only one steop beneath "BAWWWWW I'M OUT OF RATIONAL ARGUMENTATION I'LL USE TUMBLR AS A BUZZWORD AS A LAST DITCH ATTEMPT AT SUCCESSS BWAAAAAAA"
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>article writers constantly use "the first X" in their articles
>people have millions of examples proving them wrong
>they never admit they're wrong
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what about ultraverse 'MANTRA'??
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>>79096285
BIG
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>>79097249
Just chiming in to say I complete agree with you.
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Remember when we had the first Gay Superhuman?
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>>79097505
>shoulder plates
>no coat
>red eyes
>blue parts
Nah m8, it's shit. The writing was also shit, you're right.
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What about mighty man
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>>79097487
Are you alright with smokers?
If it's your own body and you're not bothering anyone else then do whatever you want.
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>>79097544

There's no money to be made in retractions. Even "legitimate" journalism publishes retractions only when they absolutely have to, and then only in small print somewhere people won't likely notice.
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How about Hughie's childhood friend from The Boys? He was a male>female transexual who fought off a very large woman with garden shears and, ironically, got his junk cut off in the struggle.
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Remember when we had the first Heterosexual Superhuman couple?
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>>79096285
So in other words it's deceptive marketing.
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>>79097756
Would Wonder Woman love her daughter more than her son?
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>>79095947
>No mention of Dial H
Absofuckinglutely disgusting.
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>>79097618

Don't forget Red Wolf the first Native American superhero.
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>>79097791
No. She cared for her brothers just as much as her sisters. She wouldn't love one any more than the other.
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>>79095947
>transgender hero/villain
>it is never a pre op tranny just a guy that got magic'd/scienced into a women
It completely defeats the purpose by making it an instant swap with no draw backs. Does earth X thor count as trans?
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Does Angela's girlfriend still have penis?
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>>79097480

Because men are evil remember!
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>>79097962
It would be more dumb in a setting with magic for a tranny to NOT use it.

The exception would be a street-level spidermanesque one with just as much teen drama as superheroics.

Honestly I'd read that.
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>>79095947
Lmao
>the first

God damn man i didnt want to believe that these people writing this shit don't read funny books but this is so far away from the truth

>The Invisibles
>Seven Soldiers

Shameful is what this is
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>ctrl+F
>No Xavin

Fuck you /co/, He/She fucked alien lesbians and doesn't afraid of anything.

And to skip over the "shape-shifters don't count" Xavin's default form slowly changed from male to female over the course of the comic.
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>>79095947
Actually keked reading that desu, why is lib-/pol/ so much funnier than regular /pol/?
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>>79095947
You don't know what Reactionary means

Reactionaries are /pol/
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Not a super fan of white girls, but I'd hit it.
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Remember when we had the first Black Superhuman?
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>>79098145
>You don't know what Reactionary means
>Reactionaries are /pol/

http://www.breitbart.com/author/paul-hair/
So... just like the writer?
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>>79097014
>fetus as it always starts as female.
Absolutely bullshit.
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>LOOK AT THIS FANTASTIC CHARACTER
>What's great about them?
>THEY'RE BLACK/JEWISH/TRANSGENDER/MUSLIM/GAY/BI/ETC.
>Oh, no thanks
>WHAT ARE YOU A FUCKING BIGOT

Getting tired of this shit. If the main draw of your character is something like sexuality or race or religion then that tells me the character is boring and contrived.
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>>79096347
Oh, yeah, I wish there were more magically transformed characters like Walter so I could fap to the- I mean, for representation of course
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>>79098551
I know right? Its the current year! Why fans still have to come up with their own representation?
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>>79095947
>The first Transgender superhuman
I'm pretty sure Astro City already did that.
And it was good too.
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God this reminds me of that Dragon Age Dorian marketing
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>>79098944
he was the first "True Gay" character in gaming, afterall!.

let's forget all the japanese games that handled Gay characters so subtlety and so well!

my problem with all this is that it boils the character down to his "gayness" or "transness" Dorian didn't exist outside of the scope of how gay he was.
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>>79099019
I hated everything about Dorian
>Bioware hype up gay character
>Character is a snarky quip machine with a twirly mustache and his side quest is literally DADDY ISSUES

I fucking hate Bioware so goddamn much
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>>79096007
Nah, the dude is writing a story about a world where a superhuman comes out as trans for the first time
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>>79099019
THE FIRST FULLY GAY CHARACTER
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>>79099158
Sooooooo...its a story made about a trans hero....written by a reactionary?

I dont know what to expect.
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>>79096405
>female body
>identifies male

How are they not trans?
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DC needs to do a new Demon Knights book and whore out Sir Ystin

The old book would've lasted longer with better sales if they did that.
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When will the world be ready for a transgender character who looks like a 10/10 female in every way, except for the giant cock bulge in their skin tight costume?
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>>79096465
That's actually not true. He's specifically said that at least the insect mesh stuff in space was based on some drug experiences
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>>79098841
I also liked this.
>Looks like a woman while still looking different from most other people
>Extremely feminine but that's okay
>Men who desire her lose interest when she explains her genital situation
>Has a lot in common with gay men but can't completely relate to them
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>>79097249
You're missing the point. They aren't trans women, they're trans men
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>>79097357
No, you just need a doctor to prescribe you the hormones which some won't do if you don't fit their image of what transgender people are supposed to be like.
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>>79099240
Because the writers never get that these male characters who magically become female are more like transmen than transwomen.
They're portrayed more like women who just need to accept the fact that they're women.
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>>79099268
What's with straight guys and their obsession with cocks?
>inb4 they're actually full gay

Nah I don't buy that shit, no gay guy finds futa shit attractive.
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>>79099439
Let me gyess....you are a transtrender? You dont think that you need dysphoria to be trans?
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>>79097480
>trap fetish
>still a transphobe
I almost feel sorry for you
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>>79099409
see
>>79099457
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>>79097187
Sounds like garbage trying to get some controversy buzz. I genuinely want more diverse characters, but how about making something actually interesting about the character in the first fucking place? I'm not even going to Google this shit. Maybe if they described the character in any interesting fashion I'd care.

Wasn't there already a better character of this nature in Demon Knights, they just didn't make it the whole focal point of the character/book, just a solid element of the story?

>>79099078
I played as a gay dwarf in the first Dragon Age game (which was okay, I liked the dwarf noble shit, can't remember if you could have a gay character as a dwarf without mods), but I haven't touched Bioware since the various disasters that were Dragon Age 2/Mass Effect 3/SWOTOR/etc. That almost tokenism thing they have going is obnoxious and the writing is just cliche after cliche.
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>>79097665
They're not even close to similar because both neither HRT nor SRS are dangerous procedures.
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>>79098373

Look up androgen insensitivity syndrome, and then tell me why the end result skews toward female.
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>>79099600
The two are not related.
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>>79097962
Yes. Not all trans people identify as women. Earth X Thor is male identifying in a biologically female body
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>>79099457
I love these type of characters.
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>>79097962
>It completely defeats the purpose by making it an instant swap with no draw backs.
Especially when it's by people who don't want to swap to begin with.

It's like the exact opposite of what real life transsexuals go through. People who write these characters are just looking for a quick pat on the back.
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>>79095947
>that artcile
Wait what
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>>79099499
>straight guys
Anon, people so obsessed with cocks are at least bi.
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>>79099600

>Look up androgen insensitivity syndrome
This is something that affects male (androgen) sex hormones.
Of course it skews men having some physical secondary sexual characteristics of a female.
Because it pretty much exclusively effects men.
A woman is going to be unaffected.
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>>79095947
Nope.
That would be white Sasquatch
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>>79099712
Of course if you like futa that means you have to find men sexy.
I mean it's impossible to find just one sexy.
That would make your statement silly and stupid.
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I know I'm gonna regret asking but what's the difference between a transexual tranny and transgender tranny
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>>79099660
You are wrong on it tho.

Because in universe, tehse characters are NEVER treated as trans, or classified as such.

Its just fans that do this, even on thid thread there is discussion regarding if genderbending a character with magic makes them automatically trans.

Not all genderbend moment on a comic or cartoon need to have something related to trans people. Most writters arent thinking of it when they do this, it is mostly for gag because its funny or hot, or for the sake of playing with concepts.

Not everything needs to be related to identity politics.
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>>79099509
It's just a meaningless distinction. Dysphoria is just the feeling of your body not matching up to your brain. Like, if someone identified as female, but wanted a more masculine appearance, that's dysphoria on just a way smaller scale.
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>>79100013
This is not how this work.

People dont just change gender and sex like clothes.
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>>79100037
How offensive to genderfluids
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>>79100013
>Dysphoria is just the feeling of your body not matching up to your brain.

Does it go both ways? As in, a guy with a slender/petite frame wishing they were more masculine? Or a butch woman wishing to be more feminine? Or does that kind of thing not count because it's "re-enforcing socitial norms"?
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>>79100013
Dysphoria is an actual medical condition. It isn't a feeling. It's measurable and quantifiable.

Just wanting to be the opposite gender because "reasons" isn't gender dysphoria. It isn't a condition.

>>79100097
>genderfluid
That this is a thing is annoying.
"Today I don't feel like doing feminine things"
That's not what gender is you fucking clod.
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>>79099799
Nothing, some people prefer one or the other for various reasons though
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>>79099799
Transsexual refers to someone who has undergone the sex reassignment surgery. Transgender just wears the outward appearance. If it helps, gender is based on social understandings of sex where sex is biological.
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>>79100111
Nah that's an aspect of dysphoria. More just body dysphoria than gender dysphoria
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>>79095947
What the fuck.
I didn't watch it but I'm pretty sure Shezow! featured a boy who turned into a girl and later on a girl who turned into a boy.
Super-Transgender was the point of the show.
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>>79100172
I thought it was just the clothes.
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>>79100127
What are "reasons"? If someone is willing to take hormones or undergo surgery, clearly they feel strongly enough about it because of the dysphoria they're feeling. You're just not understanding the concept of gender as a spectrum and not a dichotomy.
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>>79100203
It is a dichotomy.
Feeling strongly is not the same as the actual condition that is quantifiable and measurable via brain chemicals and hormones and the like.
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>>79100186
Isn't that enough to be considered transgender?
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>>79099924
No in that case they're doing the whole "I can understand women too, see, I have written a story about a man who becomes a woman, hence putting myself in your pretty shoes". Fishing for feminists instead of trannies.
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>>79100251
No.
That's something else.
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>>79100251
That's a transvestite.
vest = clothes.
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>>79096324
I remember about 15 years ago there was tons of shitty "Christian" edutainment that was a cheap pastiche of whatever was in vogue with popular culture at the time. Now it's the nu-Left making all that stuff, except it's to promote progressive values instead of Christianity.
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>>79095947
I'm pretty sure that there was a trans hero before.

Does Ultimate Spider Woman count?
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Fuck this thread. It's just hating on transpeople.

I came hoping to find some magically/scientifically male to female transformations to fap to.
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>>79096198
No you fucker, haven't you learned any thing.

Attacking just makes it stronger, gets them attention

This enemy can only be beaten by ignoring he fuck out of them
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>>79100252
Not really.

This story that I linked for example, Ranma, and Guy Gardner in the 90s, and Guy Gardner again - before the author changing some of his story because of backlash - were all example of doing it for the sake of humour, or at least avoiding identity discussion.

Hell, the poor writter of Justice League 3000 get shat on because people were saying that he was obligated to focus on trans drama regarding Gardner.
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>>79096007
Technically speaking, Color Kid was trans for at least a little while.
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>>79100478
>It's just hating on transpeople.

It is?
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>>79100478
There are a few. I can help a little tho.
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>>79100558
You were so out of examples that you had to grab at a straw from Japan.

Sorry man. I'm not wrong.
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>>79100589
What? I want to see your examples them, of it being done as some sort of political statement.

I can only think on Jonnhy Bravo, and maybe that episode with Timantha, but the last isnt quite feminism, and more regarding "you can like whatever you want".
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>>79098119
Actually, I think it was implied that Xavin actually identified as male. That he at first thought he could just become female permanently to be with Karolina, but later found out it wasn't actually that simple. Because of this he took every excuse to take his male form, for example to be intimidating. It got him into a bit of an identity crisis. Even Molly, normally naive about these thing, saw through this and confronted Xavin about it. I think deep down all of the main cast knew this, but were afraid to say it out loud, fearing that this might make them guilty of ending the relationship between Karolina and Xavin. In the end Xavin realised that while he really had come to love Karolina, he couldn't be with her forever as he couldn't be himself, so this made the decision to sacrifice himself and take her place easier, as this way Karolina would remember him fondly, and he could save his love.
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>>79100584
Yes, more of this representation pls
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>>79100231
I don't see what makes those mutually exclusive though. The strong feelings are the outward sign of the dysphoria. Gender also just isn't like that. Non-binary and genderfluid people are completely legitimate.
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>>79096727
Just reread that Astro City. Good stuff.

I can never remember any of the stories from Astro City, but they are all so good.
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>>79096109
>hasn't read "I AM TO BE INVINCIBLE"
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>>79100584
Why is art this bad ever posted?
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>>79100444
>Now it's the nu-Left making all that stuff, except it's to promote progressive values instead of Christianity.
The writer in the OP is a conservative.
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>>79100774
I dunno if that's how they localized the title wherever you're from, but are you talking about "Soon I Will Be Invincible", bu Austin Grossman?
If so, A+ post anon, that book was great.
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>>79098119
>>79100678
Also, it might be relevant that this was printed right before the Molly confrontation
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>>79100728
Tumblr, most of special snowflake genderswap aren't real.

Genderfluid os not a real thing. You are just a man that lhes to pretend to be a woman sometimes, or a woman who likes to act according to what she thinks is "manly". Usually I just seems people relroducing stereotypes.


>you can'tem be a tomboy! Youtudo gender must be a demiboy/girl!
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>>79099540
How about you go read Seven Soldiers instead of being a gigantic faggot.
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>>79096109
> I am this goddamn stupid
Go read pic related, pleb.
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>>79095947
>first
But that's blatantly false.
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>>79099540
>can't remember if you could have a gay character as a dwarf without mods

You could but the only character you could have a gay relationship with was Zevran. or be lesbians with Leliana and Isabela. You can also have a bi-orgy with these characters.

Then in Dragon Age 2 they made everyone be bi.
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>>79096340
Where the fuck is Swift?
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>>79098841
Well Kurt Busiek is a good writer. Whoever came up with this shit, is not.
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>>79101050
DA2 was a joke but still
>Hatefucking Fenris
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>>79100819
>shitting on Jams art

You has no hearth buddy.

>>79100718
Representation!
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>>79099457
some do. some don't. its not consistent.
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>>79095947
>draw a woman
>call it a man
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>>79101107
I frankly, hated Fenris that much I forgot he existed.

I had lesbianism with Merril instead.
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>>79095947
God fucking damn. It's 2016, there's no hoverboards and people are arguing about what dangles between the legs of fictional characters. There's not even the option to freeze myself to skip this stupidity.
YOU GUYS SUCK, THE FUTURE FUCKING SUCKS.
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>>79095947
>evildoers
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>>79101414
You did it wrong.

Merril is for the D

Isabella is for lesbians
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>>79095947

Looks like the last boss in resident evil dead aim, right down to the electrical powers.
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>>79096493
Reactionaries are just the SJWs of the other side of the political spectrum.
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>>79101667
Who's Isabella? Actually, I know who she is, I just didn't find her.

I really wish we could have some angsty secretive lesbian relationship except of this tackled-on stuff.
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Why is it always MtF? Why do women want to emasculate men as much as possible?
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>>79101739
Reactionaries are just the SJW of some time ago.

In some years, people will call SJW reactionaries too.

And reactionaries are always wrong for reasons.
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>>79100444

Hey! Nobleman was awesome!
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>>79101834
>Why is it always MtF? Why do women want to emasculate men as much as possible?
Can you explain what you mean by this without telling anyone to go back to tumblr?
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As a member of the quoisexual community, I am irate that there are no superheroes whom can't distinguish sexual feelings from other ones and this triggers me!
>or turns me on, I think...
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>>79101850
you just described Tango by Sławomir Mrożek
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>>79101929
What is there to explain? Why is the vast majority of transgender cases MtF? Why is the rhetoric in western countries that straight white men are evil and any straight white men who choose to become women are now "absolved" of all sin like a religious person.
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>>79102011
It's like that transman that got taken out of some minority committee or something at an university because she became a straight white male.
I really wish I saved that article.
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>>79100889
You just don't seem to be grasping the idea of gender as an identity and not a physical trait
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>>79102166
Not him, but I don't either. Could you explain what the difference is between a man and a woman on a non-physical level? Is there any kind of definition for what exactly makes you a man or woman?
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>>79102247
It's how you identify. For example, is a muscular guy with a beard more of a man than someone without those traits? No, because your identity isn't tied to your outward traits. Gender exists as a social construct and not a biologic definition. However, aspects of your biology tend to influence your identity one way or the other generally through brain chemistry.
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>>79102761
But what makes you identify one way or another? If I were to say "I am a woman", does that actually make me a woman? I mean, do we know that people who identify as a man and a woman feel different in any way? There must be some kind of difference other than just people saying they have a gut feeling about something that isn't even defined? There must be some agreed upon way in which a man and a woman universally differ psychologically, right?
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>>79097722
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>>79095947
>a weapon that the leaders of the U.S. have used in their unrelenting jihad against America as they seek to wipe out the nation and culture
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>>79102011
>What is there to explain?
How "Why is it always MtF?" relates to "Why do women want to emasculate men as much as possible?"

I don't understand how the second question follows the first.
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>>79095947
Wouldn't sir Tristan in Camelot 3000 be considered transgender? I guess they were superheroes.
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>>79102907
You just discovered why "it feel like I am other gender without having dysphoria" is bulshit, and not different than being a otherkin that thinks that he is a hamster or cartoon character.
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>>79102907
There are certain brain structures that appear more or less depending on whether you identify as a man vs a woman. Truth is that there's a lot of shit we don't understand about the brain, but we do have the evidence that transitioning does help people who are feeling dysphoria. The problem is equating "feel" with "passive whim" when it's really a foundation of your being and identity.
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>>79098145
>>79100444
It amazes me how /v/ermin don't read the articles they get mad over.
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>>79095947
WHAT?

What about that transgender street on Teen Titans?
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>>79103597
>we do have the evidence that transitioning does help people who are feeling dysphoria.
I haven't seen it. I've heard of massive suicide rates even after transitioning.
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>>79103635
I am assuming that the hero is the first transgender superhero story wise. Still, it is a nice jumping off point for discussion of different comic book characters.
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>>79101638
>there's no hoverboards
That's patently false,anon.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HSheVhmcYLA
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>>79095947
>Shining Knight

Come on that comic didn't even come a FUCKING DECADE AGO.
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>>79103663
There's a reason the hospital that invented reassignment surgery refuses to do it anymore
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>>79103597
But the other anon said that you didn't need that structures and that gender isn't physical, that its a feeling.
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>>79103663
20% down from 70%. Still massive. but, also progress.
Its actually dropping as well, as procedures are improving, and treatment is improving.

much of the high rates post transition was from inferior srs, hormones, and "too late" transitions in the 70's.

suicide rate post transition for NEW transitioning is pretty stable.
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>>79103663
Unfortunately that's not the case. After transitioning, suicide rates for trans people fall to the same as cis people of the same gender. Also, an overwhelming majority of people who undergo hrt or srs report an increase in their quality of life
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>>79098119
I miss xer so fucking much but comic limbo xe wil remain. Fucking SUCKS.
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>>79103751
It's not physically detectable. Those brain structures don't define your gender as far as we know, they just tend to appear more/less in one gender or another, but that isn't a rule.
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>>79098166
Simon is Arab, Lebanese to be precise. There's already a black Green Lantern, stop calling non-black heroes black just because they aren't white.
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>>79095947
Star hawk can be a man one day and a woman the next, that's the type of shit these people love. I hate this click bait shit, when will it end
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>>79103851
But he is wrong. The only way to tell that if someone is trans is because of diagnosed dysphoria.
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>>79098373
Eh, sorta. It's a mix.
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>>79103971
The diagnosis terms for dysphoria aren't as strict as you think
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>>79104190
But science doesn'tem suporte shit likeep gender fluid, demiboy/girl and other bulshit.

Dysphoria is caused because of brain chemistry, and you aren't trans if you don't have it.
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>>79104086
BLUE BOARD
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>>79099457
That just means they need to be better written. Not that they never existed.
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>>79102011
>Why is the vast majority of transgender cases MtF?

It's just that you read more about MfF than FtM. Go to an actual trans group meeting and you'll see the truth.
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>>79103121
At least in that issue the dude isn't in her body. They did fuck though.
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>>79105516
Did that wizard impregnate his former female host?
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>>79105563
I have no idea.
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>>79105513
I don't know if that is really the truth either. You know it seems a lot more girls pretend to be boys in their youth. Not that they don't exist at all but that's probably not an accurate measure.
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>>79105563

Of course!
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>>79099750
Anon, just accept your rampant cocklust and go find some big burly bear to pound your boihole. You'll be happier for it.
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>>79103856
the joke is that they made a big deal about him
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>>79105782
Outstanding. That is the sort of groundbreaking examination of sexual issues and gender that I want to see explored in my comics.
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For the same reason that most progressive art is terrible. They're so busy pushing their shitty radical agendas that they don't care about bettering themselves as artists and writers. They prefer shouting at other people and calling them shitty human beings instead of turning their criticisms inward in productive ways.

>>79100444
>nu-left
That guy in the OP is far-right, you idiot.
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>>79097505
The chinspike is literally the only good thing about it.
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>Trans superhuman
>Looks like generic hot comic book bimbo.
Not only is it decades too late as many people in this thread have pointed out but I doubt whoever is writing it will do anything interesting with the concept.

Just a cheap marketing gimmick to appeal to the tumblr-set.
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>>79099409
But they're really shitty representations of trans-men, since none of them actually acknowledge that they're trans. Instead, they pretty much all just decide "Well, I've got boobs now, guess I'm a girl".
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>>79099540
Sir Ystin WAS that character in Demon Knights.
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>>79107683
I know you're joking, but I really would have loved for Marvel to use Ultimate Jessica to explore gender and sexual identity issues stemming from being a different sex than what you've been identifying as for all of your life. There was a lot of interesting shit they could have done with Peter in a girl's body, and they just ignored all of it to make her completely comfortable in her new body.
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>>79098166
why would he need a gun?
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congratulations,expect your gift of fucks to come in the next 6 to 8 nevers.
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>>79095947
But sasquatch was Transgender. When he was brought back and put into snow birds sasquatch form.
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