Steven Universe: On Peridot,

>>79076552
It really depends. Jasper was able to create her helmet, so we at least know that Homeworld knows how to make constructs.

She probably needs to learn how. The rubies didn't all have the iron fist like ours did in the Homeworld flashback.

Yes

/thread

Now please stop with the Peridot threads

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>>79076959
I make literally 1-4 posts on 4chan a year. You've likely shitposted more this month than I have the last few years.

Fuck off.

>>79077067
Seems like you're upset. But still, I'm tired of threads about this bitch. She's probably the least interesting thing about this show ATM and only gets wanked about because she's a gen

>>79077288
Least interesting thing about the show is Amethyst if ya' ask me.
I appreciate her character but 'repressed-child' Ame' tantrum episodes are the most grueling, and are only paralleled by the frequent 'Pearl has a Rose Quartz PTSD breakdown' episodes we were seeing awhile back.

Given Peridot's proportions, her limbs just just inside the limb enhancers. Which means she has to shapeshift her self into an amputee when wearing them.

>>79076552
Gemlets, when will they learn?

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>>79077751
they're so cute though

>>79076552

Peridot is not a combat-task gem.
Her limb enhancers were tools for an engineer, to be upgraded and changed independently of her body.

Look at garnet. Her own weapon is a larger version of a Ruby's fists. So Sapphire doesn't seem to have a personal weapon either.
And Lapis doesn't have one either.

Not all gems have weapons. In fact they manufacture weapons that are independent of their bodies. Like the battle axe or Rose's sword.

Also, Peridot is curvier than that. Shortstacked.

>>79076552
Only soldiers can create weaponconstructs (Jasper, Rose, RWBY). Pearl stores her weapon in her head with other misc shit like police tape.

>>79077922
>Her own weapon is a larger version of a Ruby's fists.

Actually Ruby's weapon is an armored glove while Garnet's is Gauntlets. Its likely Sapphire has a component that makes them gauntlets

Just wait till she gets poofed and reforms herself as a naked woman after digging through Greg's skin mags

>>79078089
Are you sure about that? Pearl seems to be able to create any quantity of her spears as needed, and they look a hell of a lot more like they're distinctly a part of her than other stuff we've seen her fight with.

I'm confident that her gem weapon is either a drill or green glowy limb enhancers

>>79078346
Pearl can split and it but she always has to pull it out of storage first

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>>79078089
I'm pretty sure that they're constructs just like all the other gem weapons

>>79078631
Yeah, but so do Amythest and Garnet. That's a pretty flimsy line of reasoning.

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Peridot's weapon should be a dagger, because she's a little prick.

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>>79078816
She's Zim, I don't think she has a weapon at all. Remember Catch and Release.
>Is that a weapon?

>>79078346
>>79078631
I don't think it's so much storage, it might be just like the gem projects the construct of their body they need to 'produce' the construct of their weapon independent to their own shape-shifting ability. There's also an argument to be had about their weapon being preset as supposed to chosen as Pearl uses a spear but has the biggest boner for swords so that might mean even gems not built for combat always have their own weapon to call upon

Oh look, another SU thread with the exact samr topic.

>>79076552
That "without armor" pic is completely off model, her limbs are much shorter than that.

In fact, so much so that her arms must bend in a completely different place when she's in the limb enhancers.

>>79079381
That's actually a pic made before the reveal.

>>79079381
It was made during the time when it was still a theory that her limb enhancers were armor.

>>79079095
her gem weapon will be either a toothbrush or a wet towel.

>>79076552

Peridot was not originally made for combat, much like Pearl.

So she'll have to develop her own weapon(s).

>>79078816
that's more of a needle tho

>>79079586
A hypodermic needle

>>79076941
Jasper was also a veteran of the Earth rebellion, which may have factored into her ability to manifest her own weapon (such as it is). It's also probably the reason she was sent as P-dot's escort.

Come to think of it, we haven't seen any other HW gems actually summon their own weapon, but then, we haven't seen very HW gems so far.

>>79077782
thanks for the gif

Nothing so far has indicated that Peridot knows how to use her gem the way others do. It could even be that the idea has been suppressed and supplanted by Gem-Tek as a way to keep Gems in line by the Diamonds.

>>79079612
If only you could stop coming into threads about shows you don't like. Everybody would be better off.

>>79078694
>Drip-droppleganger Steven didn't crack his knuckles
I wish he did something.

>>79079676
Not sure how long Lapis was imprisoned in the mirror, but Ian has said her weapon is water control.
https://twitter.com/ianjq/status/620354802040463360

>>79079480
Theres nothing wrong with multiple SU threads, its just that people keep making threads about Peridot only

>>79076552
I believe that creating weapons is something that some Gems can do naturally and other Gems can learn to do.

In the first episode, when Steven was asking how the other Crystal Gems summoned their weapons, Amethyst said it just came naturally to her, while Garnet and Pearl gave complicated and cryptic explanations which involved deep focus the forces of the universe. Steven himself can also summon his shield without thinking, based on his emotional state.

Now, this is fitting to their personalities, but it's also notable that both Amethyst and Steven are Quartz-type Gems, who are a special elite warrior caste. It makes sense that they would naturally be able to create weapons much like all Gems can instinctively create bodies and clothing.

By contrast, Pearl was designed as a decorative slave who learned to be an effective warrior through sheer determination; it's plausible that she originally couldn't summon a weapon – and, in Garnet's origin flashback, she instead used physical swords – but could learn to create her spear as a variant of the standard Gem ability to create hard-light constructs.

As for Garnet, her situation is not entirely clear. Ruby is a warrior-class gem, so it would make sense for her to have a natural weapon, but she gave a confusing forces-of-the-universe explanation that's more like Pearl's than Amethyst's; it could be that Rubies can't do that normally because they're cheap cannon fodder, or it could be something else. In any case, it's also notable that Garnet's weapon is a variant of Ruby's, unlike the other fusion gems who summon their components' weapons before combining them into something unique; it's possible that Sapphire (a seer, not a warrior) has no weapon of her own, since she spends all her time as Garnet and wouldn't need to learn.

(cont.)

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>>79077922
>Peridot is curvier than that. Shortstacked.

The better for steven to mate with

>>79079574
She can already build robots, so she should be good. Now that she's a Crystal Gem, she should have more access to material.

Maybe she'll re-purpose the injectors in the Kindergarten into security drones.

>>79079918
>there are currently two Steven Universe threads in the catalog
>there are 150 active threads in the catalog
>half of 150 is 2

>>79079956

She could probably recover the robonoids and get them working again.

But that's not really the same as her developing a gem weapon, which I think she'll do at some point.

>>79079941
What the fuck....

>>79076552
>>79079905
(cont.)

The Homeworld Gems that we've seen also fit in with this. Jasper, another Quartz warrior-caste Gem, can summon a helmet easily. Peridot, a low-ranking technician, relies entirely on machines and gadgets to fight and has no powers without her limb enhancers. Lapis Lazuli is hard to classify, since we don't know what her purpose is; we do know, however, that she can control water on a planetary scale, and she seems to summon her water wings without using the surrounding water, so that might be a "backup" ability for when there's no water around.

In conclusion, the evidence seems to support that weapon summoning is a learnable skill for Gems, as a variant of their natural ability to create solid-seeming hard light constructs. Gems built for fighting are able to do so naturally, because it's a part of their assigned role, while other Gems cannot. The Crystal Gems, however, have a strong ideological focus on breaking out of Homeworld's strict class system, so they would likely help each other learn how to summon their own weapons, which would greatly increase their effective combat power and go a long way towards explaining how they were able to defeat what is likely a numerically superior foe.

>>79079826
I guess I could buy that, even if everyone else's weapons seem to be independent of the powers they also wield. But again, she was stranded on Earth for who knows how long. Was she also fighting for HW in the rebellion? She tells Steven the Crystal Gems can't be trusted, and she was the only one who knew of them besides Jasper.

It would be interesting if Lapis and/or Jasper could actually get a chance to give HW's version of the story, just to see how such an apparently rigid society tried to adapt to fighting radicals.

>>79080115
He's fourteen years old, dude. Fourteen-year-olds will stick their dicks in anything.

>>79080136
Seems legit enough. The Homeworld gems were after all terrified of Pearl, not Rose in the R&S flashback. Whether this was because she's a Pearl that can fight (and cuts through quartz like it's her job) or because she was manifesting a weapon at that point as well is up to debate.

>>79080114
Even counting the ones deleted, thats still like 5-6 threads. Half of 150 is 5?

>>79079772
If they are able to collect and seemingly use dissipated heat and transform it into energy, I don't see why they couldn't make a weapon out of their gemstone since they are able to have hard light bodies, or something of the sort. They would use the same mechanism to make a weapon, like their bodies. Why not?

>>79080136
I like to think Lapis uses the steam on the air for her wings.

>>79080304
Pearl wasn't summoning weapons in the flashback though, interestingly enough, during the Answer no gem is seen using the Gem Weapon at all, the only one even using weapons is Pearl and those were just swords that she carries around, not the spear that she later can summon

>>79079480
>If only there was some kind of thread for the show in general. A 'general thread'

how about no

what if the gems can actually choose what kind of weapon they want and go trough like a forge process of it or something like that

If that's the case then what kind of weapon would peri choose?

>>79080240
But he's not even 18 yet....

>>79076552
She's a fusion virgin.

She may very well be a youngin who hasn't even materialized her first weapon.

>>79080304
Pearl didn't actually summon her spear in that flashback, though. She used physical swords, similar to the ones she keeps in her room in modern times. It might have been before she learned to make a weapon.

Then again, none of the other Gems summoned their weapons either, even warrior-types like Ruby and Rose Quartz. Maybe it's just because it was a rather abstract scene.

Or, and this is just occurring to me now, Rose didn't summon her shield because she didn't think she'd need it? She seems to be a rather smug and self-assured person in general; it's possible she only brings out her shield for "important" or "major" threats (or to defend her allies, of course), and she thought she could easily beat a three-Ruby fusion with her bare hands (which she could, evidently).

I wonder if cross-gem fusion is considered acceptable in Homeworld now. Just as long as it's for practical purposes.

>>79080115
He's a growing boy. It's important that he gets a lot of green in his diet.

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>>79079941
>tfw u put on something romantic to get ur hunny in the mood
>tfw she turns out to be a massive fujoshit

>>79080867
laziness by the artists seems rather unlikely in a show that is often so diliberate about foreshadowing thing that will happen later.

Seems more likely to me that Gems didn't know how to summon weapons yet and that is why no one summons them. Its probably something that they discover during the course of the war, on both sides.

>>79080966
This ship exist?

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>>79081310
where have u been? Its sadly a rather common ship. Despite it clearly not being canon, also luckily western animation doesn't make harem shows

>>79081310
it's the number 1 and most likely to be true ship

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>>79081406
Unlike this.

>>79081406
>clearly not canon
explain

>>79081406
That's ok. But Steven X peridot...exist?

>>79081482
have you like ever watched an episode with Connie in it? like ever?

I understand not liking her or her episodes but if you seriously think she isn't gonna be the end game your delusional

>>79081310
Yes.

For once Steven is the senpai and has an itty bitty kouhai to mentor.

He's poured a lot of effort and love into her and that's not the only thing he's going to pour into her.

>>79081515
what do you mean?

like do people ship it? yes

does anything in the show really support it? not really unless you wanna read a romantic relationship into every friendship

>>79081515

Yes. Infact, /co/mrades form a large part of its crew.

I am not fond of shipping in general, but I love it when Tumblr goes fucking apeshit whenever someone tries to ship -any- Gem with a male character, be it fan character or character from the show. Like there is some unwritten rule that all Gems must be lesbians (they only make exception for Greg and Rose).

>>79081550
connie will sacrifice her stupid ass over some shit and will leave steven all to peridot, then the series will end happily ever after

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>>79081515
She's short and naive, he's short and naive; it works on a basic level.

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>>79081786
Nah bro, if anyone dies at the end of the show, its gonna be Steven

but its ok Peridot will be happy, with Amethyst

>>79081786
>anyone in the show
>dying

We don't even know what happens if you yank that gem off Stephen's belly button, Rose could still regain physical form.

>>79081661
>that guy almost pulled a zami after people harassed him for liking the pewey ship

>>79078279
sapph's construct is the glasses.
>has to be summoned
>can be broken

>>7908187
Perihot

THAT'S NOT MY BABY!

>>79081901
that is suitable too, I wonder how long this shitty bomb format will go on

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>gay space rocks are appalled that a human fucked one of their kind to make an autistic abomination hybrid

>>79081936
Whatever came of that, anyways? Did he actually die?

>>79081612
Oh my god....

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>>79082108
really hope were done with it for now.

I don't mind bombs every now and then, i dont even mind the hiatus following them, but I only like bombs when they have 5 episodes that go really well put together.

I hope we go back to weekly for a little while, I would enjoy a bit of calming down plot wise just to let the characters breath and grow into the new status quo

>>79079905
>but she gave a confusing forces-of-the-universe explanation that's more like Pearl's than Amethyst's

Ruby has a weapon, the cestus (or whatever it was) ...but Garnet is not Ruby. Half of her is Sapphire, to whom Future Vision probably counts as a weapon (like Lapis controlling water).

So Garnet would actually have to focus and train herself to use the weapon that comes naturally to Ruby (and would be upgraded due to her status as a fusion).

>>79082148
Nah he never went ahead and did it, and it turned out he wasn't even contemplating it over the pewey nonsense but because some people in real life were bullying him over something.

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Was Rose a Quartz soldier for White Diamond?

>>79076552
Pretty cool theory on the soldier classes having to learn how to make their own weapon. Sounds like a Peridot arc.

>>79082278
Still, the tumblr people were cunts for harassing him over it.
Wasn't he like 15?

>>79082331
were on 4chan, are we really allowed to complain about internet bullying? I mean its bad and thats a stupid reason to do it, but its not like we're in a spot to talk to people about how they shouldn't bully people on the net or that their reasons are petty

>>79082289

What about anything you've seen would even begin to make you think that was a possibility?

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>>79082289
White Diamond is just a fusion of all three Diamonds, Blue, Pink and Yellow

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>>79082409
Quartz gems are high-ranking footsoldiers assigned as guards to a given Diamond. The question is: which Diamond did she "belong" to before defecting?

>>79082385
only 5 y/o from /b/ or the uninformed think this place is cool with random bullying. especially a hugbox like /co/

>>79082463
You would imagine, given her color scheme, clearly Pink.

What we don't know is anything about Pink Diamond, at all. Other than that she's apparently not counted among the Diamond Authority any more.

>>79082415
You mean Cyan, Magenta, and Yellow?

>>79082463
Well most of the things we have seen suggest that your color determines who you worked for, Sapphire worked for Blue Diamond, Jasper who is orange and Peridot who is green, both colors made from yellow, work for Yellow Diamond. Not to mention Blue Pearl and Yellow Pearl

So it seems likely that Rose would have worked for Pink Diamond, assuming theories about her being Pink Diamond somehow are wrong

>>79076552
i honestly would like to see her get her limb enhancers back or at least make a homebrew/patchwork version of them

>>79082559
Yes, Blue, Pink and Yellow.
>using fancy terminology

>>79082624
Or she could just like do some quick math on the local current action and go walk the ocean floor to go get them. Gems don't need to breathe yo.

>>79082669
What do you call that color in the top-right of >>79082415 then?

>>79082676
they threw them into the ocean at the Galaxy Warp which seems to be in the middle of the ocean, its highly possible they are too deep to retrieve now

unless your Lapis, it will be just like that time that Pierre swam to the bottom of the lake to get Paulette's friendship bracelet

>>79082676
>peri & garnet go to get her shit back
>have to fight a permafused, synced, extremely pissed off, malachite
>forced to fuse to stop them
10/10 episode in the making

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Creators confirmed that she's gonna get a weapon
>peri has been holding a drill in most latest episode
>they've been building a drill, a symbol of her newly found connection
>stevencrew are friends with Trigger

Post your face when it's a drill THAT WILL PIERCE THE HEAVENS

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>>79082971
The drill thing has been laid on pretty thick, but I wouldn't mind a swerve when it comes to Peridot's summoned weapon if she gets one.

>>79082572
the thing that bothers me about the rose being a diamond theory is that if they were gonna reveal that it would've been in "it could've been great" when peridot was talking shit about rose.

rose being a diamond sounds like something that pearl would've said to make peridot eat shit.

>>79083011
>>79082971
Doesnt sardonyx already have a drill/hammer though?

>>79083046
Isn't there a mural of rose literally holding pink diamond's gem in her hands?
Why are people still defending this?

>>79083052
She turned her warhammer into a drill to escape the crushing mechanism in Friend Ship, yeah

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>>79082971
actually sounds pretty legit, maybe have an episode about trying to teach to summon it before they go in and her finally being able to do it, using her drill to personally shatter the cluster

>>79083046
honestly at this point I highly doubt Rose is Pink Diamond, it just doesn't add up anymore, the only reasonable crack theory I have heard for it. is that Rose is basically Kami and Piccallo, and Bismuth the gem imprisoned in Lion is her other half needed to form Pink Diamond

>>79083052
Egh, whatever, it was one time gimmick, of a character that will probably don't even show up anymore

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LEAK

>>79082572
How can Rose be a diamond if she was a quartz? Shouldn't a diamond be, you know, a diamond?

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>>79082572
But Ruby is red and she was assigned to be Sapphire's bodyguards? And Jaspers are orange and have been seen under both Blue Diamond AND Yellow Diamond.

>>79083165
But what if Steven's penis gets in the way?

>>79082572

>assuming theories about her being Pink Diamond somehow are wrong

They ARE wrong.

1) She is a well documented Quartz, consistent with what we know about other quartz.

2) We see part of the Pink Diamond mural on moonbase, and PD had long, shapely legs.

>>79083103
i think you need to read the post. i was explaining why i think it's bunk

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>>79083046
>>79083103
>Rose actually defeated a diamond in the war
>It was HER diamond
>It is the reason the HM gems retreated, nobody ever defeated a diamond before

>>79083196
It won't

>>79083202
>>79083171
why are you people arguing with me, I was assuming that theories about Pink Diamond being Rose Quartz were wrong, I don't need to be told why they are wrong when I already know this

>>79083165
That Steven is from when he kisses the Cookie Cat fridge in The Big Donut

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>>79083165
come one anon, you can try harder than that

>>79083212
Yeah, I know, I'm just adding to your statement anon SHEESH
>>79083216
Probably something like that. Maybe PD was a bro and sacrificed herself or something but that's doesn't really matter for now

I do wonder why they specifically don't show PD mural in the moon base? Do they just want the design to be more surprising? Or do they just keep mystery for mystery sake?

>>79079826
>>79082256
I don't think that's an accurate statement. Gem weapons, in this context, refers to the solid light constructs that some Gems can materialize from their gemstones, similar to how they create their clothes and bodies. You can't really say, for example, that Sapphire's weapon is future vision; it's something she uses in battle, yes, but she doesn't materialize solid future vision using light from her gemstone. Same with Lapis Lazuli and her water control powers, or Peridot's limb enhancers; they're "weapons" used by Gems, but they're not "Gem weapons".

I think this is what some call the Four Terms Fallacy: using a word to mean one thing in one context and a very different thing in another context, then treating the two meanings as equivalent even when they're not.

>>79083361
I always kinda assumed her weapon was her wings, she didn't take water and form them, they came out of her gem

>>79083345
>Or do they just keep mystery for mystery sake?
I'm betting it's this. It's the easiest way to avoid writing yourself into a corner, just leave a loose end here and there so later you can splice them together.
They could always have PD show up as Steven's grandmother or something. One day she just wanders out of Rose's room or some shit.

>>79083325
>That bulging belly
Stevonie wasn't fat and Pearl is like 100 times slimmer than Connie
STOP FORCE FEEDING THESE INNOCENT CARTOON CHARACTERS TUMBLR

Nah, seriously, even Rose isn't actually fat

>>79083325
Way would thay be fat

>>79083448
>>79083477
Is that fat for you? Thats like thick

>>79083448
>>79083477
why are people in this fan based so obsessed with if characters are fat or not?

I would call that chubby at best.

Personally I think this is one of the better attempts I have seen at designing a fusion we haven't seen before

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>>79083525
Its the belly anon
Buldging belly disproportionate to the rest of body is the line between thick and fat

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>>79083632
I'll stop being obsessed once I get my Thick Rose fan art, instead of rolls of fat every body adds to her

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>>79083325

>>79083448

Really, considering how both Opal and Sardonyx are totally hot, there's no way a Pearl/Steven fusion wouldn't be a sun.

>>79083813
I do hope Rainbow Quartz 2.0 is presented as not-Rainbow Quartz 1.0

While we don't know RQ, Garnet and Amethyst will constantly be confused on his/her alleged different personality

>>79083179
>Ruby is red

If Pink Diamond is dead/missing/whatever by this point, then it makes sense that her troops (which red Rubies would likely be) would probably be divided up among the remaining Diamonds.

>Jaspers are orange
Jaspers come in a variety of colors, even blue. Yellow, red, and orange are just the most common.

>>79083911
I'm half expecting that if RQ 2.0 happens, Pearl will be totally disgusted by all the fluids moving around the part-human body. If she hates eating, that's got to be even worse.

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>>79084042
>you television prlvilleges
ENGLISH MOTHERFUCKER
DO
YOU
SPEAK IT

>>79084064
nah she will be way too happy about getting to fuse with "Rose" again, also she might not freak out about them because they will just naturally be there as opposed to having to actively create and maintain working organs within her physical form

>>79084082
Hey, man, I just added the 2 logos. Not the text.

>>79083361
>Same with Lapis Lazuli and her water control powers

Except that the Crewniverse has explicitly stated that Lapis Lazuli's weapon is her water control.

The problem is on your end; you assume that a Gem's weapon has to be something materialized using light from her gem, when in fact it doesn't.

>>79084157
Even so, Lapis still materializes water wings out of her gemstone.

>>79083813
That's a bit too femenine, not even Stevonnie looks that femenine.

Actually this makes me think, Stevonnie looks more like a girl because Steven is still barely a teenager and looks more like a girl but how will Stevonnie look when Steven gets older, a beard and much more manly?

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>You will never see another episode like jailbreak again.
Why live

>>79084157
The problem is that they're using the term "weapon" to mean something entirely different, leaving the question of "What is Lapis Lazuli's Gem weapon?" unaddressed. Her water control isn't her weapon because it's something completely different from a Gem weapon.

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>>79076552
so this is literally the exact same topic as yesterday

>I'm not sure if this has been answered/speculated in previous SU generals
stop lying

>>79084175

Yes, and? That's entirely irrelevant. She doesn't need her wings to control water.

WHERE IS SHE GOING TO PUT THE STAR, ANONS?

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>>79079897
>>79080603
>Mods actually deleted the post because they knew it was right and they're the reason SU is split into multiple threads that leave /co/ even worse off than with the general

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>>79084207

>>79084211
>Peridot will never get her artificial limbs back
>She'll be stuck being a Zim clone for the rest of the series.

>>79084213

No. You are wrong.

Ian literally said that Lapis Lazuli's weapon is water control. That is her weapon. It is directly addressed.

It is the exact same thing as every other Gem weapon: using her energy to manipulate something into a functional form. Except instead of manipulating light to form a spear, she's manipulating water for form giant hands and shit.

>>79084211
If the crew is to be believed, the last few episodes of S2 are supposed to be fucking spectacular. I'm moderately excited.

>>79084339
I can't wait for when CN actually airs them in 2019.

>>79084339
Matt said the rest of the season is the best run of episodes yet, and Joe said what he believes to be his best and favorite episode (and song) have yet to air so i'm pretty stoked.

Peridot Mechanist update to Attack the Light when

>>79084338
>No. You are wrong.
It's entirely true that water control is not the same thing as creating matter from light. Equating the two is wrong, not pointing out the differences.

>It is the exact same thing as every other Gem weapon: using her energy to manipulate something into a functional form. Except instead of manipulating light to form a spear, she's manipulating water for form giant hands and shit.
It's exactly like the other Gems' ability to project matter from their gems, except that instead of projecting matter from her gem, she's making water move on its own.

That's a fairly significant difference. Her ability to control water is separate from, and irrelevant to, the question of what sort of weapon she can create from her gem.

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>>79084297
This is better than having a general because people who actually want to discuss the show can instead of being drowned out by post like "I WANT TO LICK JASPER'S BICEPS"

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>>79084309
>zim clone
>implying

She's way more understanding/passionate than zim.

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>>79084442
>socks
So Peridot is wearing pajamas?

>>79084453
Well that might as well be her skin considering they said its melded to their bodies.

>>79082217
>Oh my god....

The fuck are you on about? It is one of the least weird Steven ships.

Peridot wasn't there to raise him, she doesn't have any emotional connection to Rose, emotionally she is as immature as he is, they are close to the same height, they get along really well, she is capable of matching his extended lifespan, etc.

Second to Connie she is the closest to a kid his own age that Steven actually hangs out with.

It is one of the least weird Steven ships. It is just cute.

>>79084425
we've had plenty, PLENTY of discussion while there was loud shitposting in the background
are you saying you can't keep on topic if people spam images?

>>79084509
Given this fact and Peridot's interest in human clothing, how likely would it be for Peridot to shapeshift nude or get poofed and reform herself without clothes?

>>79084207
Well, Connie is also will become more womanly. If Beach Hunk Steven is canon, then grown up Stevonie will be just more muscular and with bigger tits
And also giant

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>>79084453

It is called a speedsuit.

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Midget Peridot is worst Peridot, I want the fucking limb enhancers back.

>>79084595

I'm certain they'll give them back to her eventually.
The look was just too cool with the arms.

>>79084509
>>79084544

The clothes are part of their bodies in the sense that they are part of their projected selves.

They can shapeshift to have seven vajaynas and shitting dicknipples. At least temporarily.

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Who is the most underrated gem and why is it Water bear?

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>>79084595
me too

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>>79084510
This. Nothing wrong with cuteness.

>>79084632
But they can make their "projected selves" naked, can't they?

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>>79084295
Anything but the hair

>>79084626
she won't
only Homeworld's technology would be able to make the limb enhancers but she's a traitor so no deal for her

>>79084567
Soooo... a hot jasper?

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>>79084295

the only logical place.

>>79084650
No. if she short, it feels better to give her a good ol dicking

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>>79084677
I don't really care one way or the other about thick or thin Rose, but dear god that art style is ugly

Its the mostly lazy and painfully generic thing I have ever seen

>>79084681
Sure. They changed into sexy swimsuits once.
I remember because Pearl's feet caused a ruckus.

>>79084681

Almost certainly they can look naked, yes. At least temporarily.

Mr. Universe had to be able to stick it in something, at least.

>>79084715

You can't imagine a season finale where shit starts hitting the fan and she grabs a new pair?

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>>79084797
>she grabs a new pair

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>>79084677
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sqfe7wgy_z0
There was this really surreal Cn ad a while back

>>79084793
>Almost certainly they can look naked, yes. At least temporarily.
But what I'm asking is if they could or would do so as their default form.

>>79084797
I doubt were gonna see much of Homeworld this season anymore, we are probably going to resolve the Cluster and Malachite, I don't expect whoever Yellow Diamond is sending to arrive until season 3

>>79084855
the heck does that have to do with anything

>>79081872
That reminds me did Connie formally meet Peridot? I don't recall them talking or anything during the birthday.

>>79084878
This
The plot is gonna go Cluster>Malachite >Lapis >Jasper> Yd> Other Diamonds

>>79084956
The birthday was THE moment for them to meet each other. So probably never.

>>79084967
please be joking

>>79084956
They didn't but I bet that's because they will be leaving for another episode, maybe an episode focused on both knowing each other and Peridot appreciating a human or something like that

>>79084974
Peri would've just pushed her

>>79085016
>Connie could have die during that episode

It could have been great

>>79084979
sound about right, although other diamonds could probably be broken down more, but we have no info yet on how it will be broken up

also thats probably like the rest of the show, so like 5-6 seasons and like an ending movie probably

>>79084715
Couldn't she just learn to materialize them? Like how Garnet materializes her gauntlets?

>>79085048
That would've been a REAL Peridemption

>>79084979
Nah, I'm just taking out of my ass
I still remember then I though that this is gonna be a cutesy cartoon with no plot, and that time I thought that Peridot is gonna be a villain
I trust this show to surprise me

>>79085065
her limb enhancers are artificial
the gems' weapons aren't "materialized" but rather summoned from their gem, made of their same light
that's why when Peri got poofed her limb enhancers didn't

>>79076941
There are two things I'm guessing at;
Summoning a weapon has more to do with the caste system perhaps. Everyone could do it, but rules say no. Jasper's a warrior, she's allowed to pull a helmet out of her face. Peridot's not a warrior, therefore she was either not allowed to try, or aware she even could try.

Otherwise I'm guessing gem construct weapons might've been something that came about from the war. Pearl and Rose both used non construct weapons in their attack on the Sky Arena. And this sort of supports the idea >>79079676 said about Jasper.
And even then, that might've become factored into the caste system after the fact.

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Guys, so when the main plot is resolved and the series comes to an end, do you think it's possible, if the demand is still will be there, for them to do a classic anime move and do a time jump to more grown up Steven, with new main plot?
The show is much like Dragon Ball after all

>>79085114
Fair enough. How about this: They just poof her and when she's regenerating she just takes some extra time to grow bigger.

>>79085214
it doesn't work like that, gems can't get bigger, they are the size that they are. If they try and maintain a larger form they will over stress there gem and the form will collapse. This has been shown twice, in Reformed with Amethyst and in Steven's Birthday with Steven

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>>79085214
so that Steven's Birthday or Reformed happens all over again?

>>79085255
God damn it. I feel like there should be a simpler solution to all this. Oh well. I for one don't mind short Peridot so there's that.

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since sug is taboo and i don't feel like waiting around for an appropriate thread have some shit i did because boredom. i dunno if there were better versions of these floating around already or not

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>>79085311

>>79085189

The show would have to be rebranded á la Ben 10. American cartoons don't do timeskips like that.

>>79085311
>waiting around for an appropriate thread
We still have
>>>/trash/sug

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>>79081406
>also luckily western animation doesn't make harem shows
u fuckin wot m8

>>79085282
But Perishort is the worst thing to ever happen in SU

is Beach City in perpetual summer?

>>79085366
It really is

>>79085392
No, we've actually seen the seasons change. They even had a blizzard.

>>79085392
According to Ian, the show always takes place in the summer months at all times unless it is convenient for the crew to have a few episodes at some other point, like for Winter Forecast and Maximum Capacity.

>>79080782
So? I wasn't 18 the first time I had sex. what were your teen years like anon?

>>79085392
of course not, we had a snow-in episode. also the real Rehoboth/Dewey/Lewis/Betheny beach area is actually really pretty and quiet in the winter when there're no tourists and there's snow on the ground. You can walk on the beach for miles with nothing ahead but the unbroken snow and the waves

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>>79081406
>Despite it clearly not being canon

it's SUBTEXT, anon

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>>79085437
>According to Ian

Well, his opinion is almost as reliable as Matt's

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>>79085451
No, Amedot is subtext

shall we agree to disagree or shall a break out the fast forwarded long rant about Amedot subtext?

>>79082289
what are people's theories on pink diamond now that we've seen yellow and blue and seen that they're HUGE? I know the assumption for a while had been that the convenient defacing of the pink diamond statue in the arena was that it was probably rose, but she's not nearly big enough to match blue and yellow.

>>79085451
is subtext subtext for sex?

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>>79085508
I don't really care I just wanted to make the reference

>>79084207
Pearl is more feminine than Connie.

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Behold. Peridot's Weapon!

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>>79085311
>>79085333

Nice work anon, made some transparent versions of yours without white backgrounds, using my shit-tier GIMP skills.

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Soon.

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>>79085625

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RIP David Bowie

>>79085637
Isn't his dad going around have inter dimensional adventures with his other family and grandson?

>>79085610
Cute

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>>79085625
Your skills aren't shit but GIMP is

Did Zone do an actual SU flash or just make a few pics?

>>79085637
I'm pretty hype for this, my personal guess is that Marty ends up becoming Sour Cream's manager without realizing Sour Cream is his son

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>>79085677
Horrifying

>>79085766
she did a short flash a bit ago with pearl. it wasn't anything too lewd though, no rock tiddies.

>>79077922
I think Lapis's weapon is her wings, or to be specifc, a small supply of water (or a watery substitute) that she can use as an escape method, or as a weapon in a dry enviornment.

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>>79085637
Solid 10/10 episode incoming, I can feel it.

>>79085311
>>79085333

>Yellow Diamond has 9 planets
>Blue Diamond has 9 planets
>White Diamond's relief shows that she has at least 15

>>79085637

"How come he don't want me, man?"

>>79085862
>relief

>>79085828
did Amethyst ever summon her whip while her gem was cracked?

Because Lapis couldn't form her wings while her gem was cracked.

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So who's going to take Peri's fusion virginity? (fuginity?)

a) Garnet
b) Amethyst
c) Pearl
d) Steven

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>>79085945

>>79086026
Steven.

>>79085963

>Relief is a sculptural technique where the sculpted elements remain attached to a solid background of the same material. The term relief is from the Latin verb relevo, "to raise." To create a sculpture in relief is to give the impression that the sculpted material has been raised above the background plane.

>>79084513
These threads are still better than generals. Theres a better ratio of discussion to shitposting in these

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>>79086026
Amethyst

>>79085979
nope
and she barely could reflect her form correctly

>>79085979
I don't think she did? It makes sense, since the weapon literally comes out of the gemstone, so that'd be hard to do when the gem is cracked.

I imagine fusion would also be difficult or impossible?

>>79086026
Lapis
see >>79081462

>>79086026

Steven or Lapis.

Or Steven, Lapis, and two really big bottles of coconut flavored lube. While Pearl watches and simmers with jealousy.

I wonder if they'll include this in a flashback. Probably not.

http://chicas-pizza.tumblr.com/post/136955833863/cut-scene-of-peridot-eating-for-the-first-time

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>>79086082
Thanks for bearing with me

>>79086217
Nope

>>79086220

No sweat. You learned something, so it wasn't a bust.

>>79086245
Oh well. Would've been funny.

>>79086405
toilet humor is never funny

>>79086217

If they can create a digestive system they can create any kind of genitals they want.

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>>79076955
Our Ruby's weapon is a single armored bracer with a non armored glove.

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>>79086445
Damn it looks like she's gonna smash me

>>79086445
to be fair, we have seen garnet only summon a single glove at a time and we have seen both Pearl and Amethyst summon 2 of their weapon

I don't know why we would think that Ruby could only ever summon just one

So is Greg homeless other than his van?

>>79086527
Could Steven summon two shields?

>>79086626
Duh, he's a fucking hobo, remember?

>>79086626
Greg isn't homeless. His home is with Rose and Steven. As for living quarters, Greg built the house, he just doesn't live in it. What a guy, build a house for his son but doesn't stay so his son can learn all the things that he cannot give. True sacrifice, right there.

>>79086628
Didn't he summon his Bubble and Shield at the same time when he and Connie fought the fusion monsters?

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>>79086673
>His home is with Rose and Steven

Anon shut the fuck up

>>79086626
He owns the car wash.

He lives in his van because it was part of his musician lifestyle.

Or he has gypsy blood.

>>79086673
to be fair, I'm pretty sure the Gems own the land and not Greg, so even if he helped build the house its theirs not his, but he also owns the barn anyway

>>79086724
No, he lives in a van because he's piss poor and can not afford a decent house. He couldn't offer Steven a decent home to raise him in.
He's useless and a loser.
His only chance at success was Marty and he bailed out on him.

>>79083179
You're assuming that the different Diamonds don't collaborate and that their provinces never overlap in any way. Yes, BD got pissed off when Ruby fused with "a member of her court", but we were also told Sapphire was Gem nobility. A royal court typically doesn't include rank and file soldiers even thought they also serve their king/queen/tsar/whatever. So it's sort of like a chamber guard fucking a duchess right in your throne room, the act of which also happens to fuck your war campaign all to hell.

>>79086628
He could summon two shields - we've seen Gems create multiple weapons all the time. He just doesn't do it because for him, making a weapon is hard - he was visibly tired after making three shields in one day.

>>79086037
JUST LET HIM BE A DJ

>>79079095
Maybe her Gem weapon will be the PAK

>>79086759
he literally paid for the construction of the beach house where Steven lives out of his own pocket, and pays for all Steven's food, too.

>>79086908
>making shit up

>>79079941
>Steven becomes rowdy teen
>keeps trying to fuck Peridot
>they just keep accidentally fusing right before he gets to the pussy every time
>become frustrated screaming stevidot
>explode back into base elements
>repeat

>>79086908
I hadn't thought about it until I saw the extended opening but at the time I had thought the gems had built it for him.

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>>79086826

He would be such a great DJ....

>>79086089
Honestly, I don't mind either way as long as we can actually have threads. I'm just a little chafed because mods went back on their word about keeping a general on /co/.

>>79084994
Peridot already appreciated Greg right off a roof.

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>>79085637
God I really hope we get to see something like this in the Drop beat dad episode but I'm pretty sure the whole "steven's perspective" thing is gonna ruin it

>>79087086
I thought only flashbacks were seen in Steven's POV?

>>79085767
That...would actually be pretty cool.

>>79087123
The entire series is Steven's POV. There's never a scene where he isn't around, and the audience never sees things that Steven couldn't see himself. The only exceptions are flashback episodes, where we see what he's imagining happened.

>>79087208
>>79087123
fuck, basically what this anon said
there are some exceptions, like the strong in the real way and yellow diamond's room according to what Ian said

>>79087208
>>79087123
It's the only way the show stays a children's cartoon. An actual unfiltered portrayal of the events as they're happening would be a Saga-tier space opera.

>>79079095
We've been told to "watch and find out!" what Peri's weapon is.

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>>79085767
God please let this happen
LET THIS HAPPEN PLEASE SUGAR
Also I reimagine this scene with Vidalia, Marty and Sour Cream

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>>79085862
are you refering to the white diamond gif thing on the wikia? that's like 60% arbitrary work on that artist's part. even when piecing together little glances we got there's not enough to get quite a working model of whitediamonds wall, and nothing to help fill in the blanks with the planets

>>79086026
Lapis or Amethyst. She and Pearl get along the best, but a fusion between them would have way too much sexual tension, just due to their personalities and how they act towards each other, and I don't think the writers are going for a Pearidot ship.

Amethyst would be the only Crystal Gem that Peri could fuse with without it being particularly awkward.

With Lapis, I could see a situation where they're both in trouble and the best solution is to fuse. Lapis already knows how, and Peridot mostly understands it, even if she hasn't done it yet.

>>79087441
>Lapis

you don't seriously believe this, do you?

>>79087461
Its like fujoshits.
They see one relating thing and suddenly they are writing fapfics.

>>79086026
steven or ame

>>79087461
Not as a shipping thing, but yeah, I think it's likely that they'll fuse. They've still eventually gotta deal with Malachite, and when they do, it would not surprise me at all if Lapis and Peridot, as Jasper's former underlings, wound up in a situation of peril together.

>>79087516
Hey, that's not
I guess it is kind of exactly like that.

>>79087441

>Peridot is uncomfortable with it
>Lapis hates it after Malachite
>Steven is in danger or w/e, forcing them to fuse
>Peridot gains an understanding she never imagined
>Lapis knows what it's like to be fused peacefully

Plus, it would be a huge trust thing. I mean, look what Lapis was able to do to Jasper; Peridot doesn't have that kind of will. She's basically giving herself to Lapis and trusting her with her entire being.

>>79079095
>Peridot's gem weapon turns out to be her old limb attachments

>>79086026
I feel like it'll be Garnet in a tutorial capacity, but that Amethyst will be the first stable fusion and first to actually see any action. Darkhorse bet here is that we symultaneously get peri's first and confirmation that Steven can fuse with gems at the same time.

I just saw episode 27-28, and Peridots monologue in the moon base control room, about how Rose Quarts didn't save earth and just doomed it further, was almost word for word an Issue I brought up 2 months ago, and yellow diamonds desire to destroy earth.

It basically confirms that Rose making Steven was the stupidest possible move on her part.
Earth wasn't safe as Homeworld was still a threat, because 6000 years is a weekend to gems.

AND it confirmed my operating sequence of events, which another anon was arguing against with poor rationalizations

Basically the issues are thus:
If only 4 crystal gems remained, why did home-world not just overpower them with focused shock troops?
They claimed that Home-world didn't think that the crystal gems existed anymore, or where no threat in military combat, especially after being that cut off for that long from home-world development of tech, AND that the cluster birth was more desirable than the re-ignitions of the kinder-gardens

If Gems have long life, bordering on technical immortality, why god why are they expansionist and willing to demolish entire life sustaining worlds, making them sterile even for the gems own reproduction purposes, and in the process making enemies of every other race in the local universe?

Sentient Immortal Holograms, who don't have to eat HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO NATURAL EXTERNAL MOTIVATING FACTOR for this behavior
And as Sugar has said "there are no villains" in SU, this is the biggest Issue the central driving factor has

>>79087551
That does sound pretty good, but now that you mention it, Lapis being afraid to fuse again after the nightmare of being Malachite makes a lot of sense, which means we'd probably have a shit ton of episodes between her revealing her phobia and her getting over it. And at SU's glacier pace, I'm expecting to see the next Lapis fusion in 2021.

>>79086026
More importantly, how terrible will that little sperg be at dancing?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DY_DF2Af3LM

>>79087592
this is a children's show, anon

>>79086197
>>79086080
>>79087526
Steven hasn't fused with anyone besides Connie. We don't even know if he CAN fuse with the Gems.

>>79087625
Ian get out

>>79084677
this is basically like drawing a cartoon of prophet muhammad

>>79087625
That is not an excuse when the fucking Creator says "No villains" and then they have Evil Stupid Villains

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>>79087622
Like this

>>79087592
didn't even bother reading the rest of your post because I already know Rose is a fucking retard
I mean, look at her in The Answer

>>79084635
Hey, speaking of. Are there still gem monsters around? Do they just clean those up off-screen now?

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>>79087678

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Dancing Peridot is best Peridot.

>>79087592
My good friend, you are blessed with the gift of patience, if you have waited for so long before seeing your marvelous analysis confirmed. Why not further your efforts, and wait until all, and not only a part, of your clever assumptions, are proven true, before passing such a severe judgement on the whole logic of the series?
Certainly it would be much more satisfying for you, and more of a pleasure for us, if you could show us once again an example of your strong phlegm and restraint, by waiting until all factors and plans are clearly revealed before sharing your views.

>>79087592
Honestly my assumption is that either they already have a really big enemy and they need all the gems they can make to fight it, or they're driven by a pre-programmed directive that the Diamonds haven't really had sufficient reason to ignore since, aside from the Earth (which was a minor hiccup) doing what they've been doing has been working out pretty well for them.

As for Rose, some may say that she made Steven as part of a keikaku to change Homeworld and save Earth, but I don't really believe it. For starters, why make Steven now and not earlier? And secondly Homeworld isn't really invading for the most part, they just need to wait for the clock to run out, Yellow Diamond pretty much won six thousand years ago. Honestly I suspect that Rose making Steven was due to both a longstanding desire on Rose's part to not be anymore, and Greg being exactly the right kind of person.

>>79087705
I just wanted validation, that Rose was retarded, after some other anon tried to defend her in my previous argument

>>79087592
Maybe they need something from the planets to sustain themselves. They could have another wars going on, and they need more gems to fight.

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>going through the wiki
>find this
DEEPEST LORE!

But seriously, that's pretty cool.

>>79087716
They are all still bubbled, and waiting to be fixed

AND I AM STILL WAITING FOR AN EXPLANATION FOR THEM

>>79087626
well, peridot's as good a choice as any to find out

>>79087626
first off, it would be extremely retarded if he couldnt fuse with gems if he could with a human
second, it just makes sense that the first gem that they would fuse with would be with eachother

>>79087705
While admittedly her assault on the sky arena while only bringing Pearl with her (or alternatively, starting a rebellion against an intergalactic empire with literally only one person on your side, and 'person' could be considered arguable on a societal level) IS pretty dumb, the way she treated Garnet when they met the second time showed passable skill at manipulation.

>>79087803
Yeah, but in the early episodes new ones showed up all the time. It would be shockingly convenient if, after thousands of years, they just happened to find the very last wayward broken gems just in time for Homeworld shenanigans.

>>79087757
What the fuck is your problem you thesaurus-swallowing motherfucker? What are you even here to talk about?

>>79087733
I think it fits with this
http://vocaroo.com/i/s04LFx0frS21

>>79081406
thanks doc

>>79087847
Which of the characters is the most attractive. Why? What did you think we were going to talk about?

>>79087847
He's trying to say "Wait for five minutes, we don't know most of what's going on so making such a sweeping judgment is kinda premature."

>>79082289
Do you see her colour? Also did you see the symbol on Pearl's spacesuit in the robolympics episode?

She served under Pink Diamond. She wasn't one, because she's nowhere near large enough to be a diamond herself.

>>79087757
The fuck?

if you had any reading comprehension at all you would see the argument puts ANY attempted explanation into contradiction with itself, or doesn't explain any of the issues

I don't have to wait for an explanation that won't fix anything

Also I know your being an ass, because if i waited till after it was explained and the series concluded you wouldn't think I had come to that conclusion before, and would ignore Plot holes that would NEVER be resolved

For example

My best friend made me read Watchmen long before it was ever going to be a movie
I told him flatly that the ending with the giant monster was stupid, and It would make more sense with Ozy using the Duplicated powers of Dr. Manhattan to cause the distaster, and for the world to blame Dr. Manhattan

When it was announced to be a movie I told him this again, and he still didn't believe me

When we saw the movie he was pissed he didn't get the stupid monster

>>79083813
that backwards hand

>>79082547
>Other than that she's apparently not counted among the Diamond Authority any more.
wheres that from? there are hints of that, like the destroyed pink diamond statue in Sworn to the Sword, but nothing canonical to swear to to my knowledge

>>79087917
In the hand-ship and I think pyramid (which is weird) the Homeworld logo changed to be three triangles instead of four diamonds.

>>79087906
Ah, so you're an idiot, then. Everything's coming together.

>>79087825
To be fair with you, she did manipulate Greg like a puppet.
But then again, it's Greg we're talking about.

>>79087917
The Diamond logo is three triangles instead of four diamonds, one of the statues is broken, and on a few older emblems, we can see the Pink part of the emblem is defaced. We don't know the circumstances, but all that together points to Pink being persona non grata.

>>79087953
It kind of does seem a lot easier than what Ozymandias did in the comics, though in the movie he should have taken more steps to hide it than he did.

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>>79085637
Can't fucking wait for more Cool Kids & Farty Marty. Bound to be based

>>79086037
holy fucking kek

>>79079279
Agreed.

They have a massive boner for Peridot, to the point that /sug/s were essentially Peridot generals.

>>79087771
>r they already have a really big enemy and they need all the gems they can make to fight it,
that literally only pushes the Stupid Evil Motivation one step further, and still contradicts Sugar about "no villains"

>or they're driven by a pre-programmed directive that the Diamonds haven't really had sufficient reason to ignore
So you are saying "why not burn down the forest after your camp fire has been so useful"?
Real smart there

Yes, rose is stupid
Leave earth unprotected
Leave all the corrupt gems unfixed
Leave my loyal supporters to fix my mess

>>79087784
This is not an explaination
What reason do they have to fight wars? land? from the people they are killing? from other gems?
That is circular, and Stupid Evil

>>79087836
Writer Convince is a synonym for Stupid

>>79087898
>5 min
>gem corruption unexplained
>central issue of season 1
>70+ episodes gone, and no explanation in sight, few to No gem monsters after season 1
>5 min

fuck you