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>delete this general
What's the matter, don't like a strong empowered young woman who doesn't need her hand held?
I don't mind it. It's nice to know Yoda was doing something in all his time in exile. The Empire will logically not just hunt Jedi but anyone else with the Force. It's good to know Yoda is reaching out with his mind across the galaxy and trying to help where he can.
As for Leia, of course as she grew up she began helping her father in his work with the Rebellion. If she wasn't directly aiding the cause she was on missions of mercy to ease those suffering under Imperial rule, and sometimes using official missions of the latter as an excuse for the former.
Do we have any backstory information on Sabine yet? Or the condition of Mandalore since TCW for that matter?
>don't like a strong empowered young woman who doesn't need her hand held?
Chick that spent her entire life on a fucking desert planet because she was waiting for her parents to come back.
Chick that was totally flashed after a dude she just met asked if she was okay.
Chick that almost started to cry when told that 'we came back for you'.
>strong and empowered
Would you call an orphan that survived on it's own on shitty work and living in abysmal conditions also strong and empowered?
Some people throw their brains away in pursuit of some political agenda instead of enjoying a piece of entertainment for what it is.
Fuck. This clonks my bongles.
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It's coming up in the latter half of season 2. You can see some Mandalorian action via the trailer found in the OP.
There's also some small hints in upcoming episode titles but I don't have any of those handy at the moment.
You're replying to an anon who openly admits his autism is acting up. Egging him on won't help, just ignore/reply hide and if he gets too out of control report.
She has a sister that's also a Bounty Hunter. But it doesn't matter, she's a shit character and nothing can change that because she's ill conceived and doesn't belong in Star Wars.
>autism is acting up
you should find out who his doctor is, could help out a lot with your disability's
retards calling each other retards on the inter net jeez...
all hail mandalore!
The only autists I see in this thread are you and the other anon who are triggered hard over no one else liking Sabine. Your post is sperg as fuck. Calling anyone else a shitposter is rich, let alone trying to report someone simply for disagreeing with you.
>tfw we might get some good saber action
>IF YOU ONLY KNEW THE POWA OF THE DARK SIDE SNIPS!
Not one of the better deaths for Ahsoka the old TCW threads came up with.
>Same narrative purpose. And it's not interesting or important.
You could say the same of most expository media related to Star Wars.
>Hey Ben, did I ever tell you about the time that I Force choked my old apprentice to death while she wept and pleaded for me to return to the light? She was a good friend, might even have been your grandmother if she had been a few years older!
>You could say the same of Star Wars
>first episode has Kanan watch Obi-Wan's message to all surviving Jedi multiple times
>DURR HE PROBABLY JUST FORGOT
>shown Kanan watching the holocron Obi made.
>A New Dawn has him specifically talking to and about Kenobi.
Yeah nah, Kanan knows exactly who one of the most famous Jedi in the order was and would not "forget him."
>Star Wars was worthless and didn't make sense until 2008
Holy shit this is amazing fucking love Disney they aren't scared of making the villian a comedy relief.
>really struck a nerve with me
>especially since i killed him
At least once a thread when new episodes of TCWs were airing someone would ask if/how she died. Some of the answers were hilarious, but I don't know if anyone bothered to collect the actual posts. There were a few pics and edits, too, but I don't have any of those anymore.
>'...jumped down pit to evade pursuit, landed on Darth Maul's head spikes leaving him freaking out and running around with her still stuck to his head'
My sides are on the moon right now.
would you make sweet love to pic related even if she'll always, ALWAYS smell like swamp ass?
I'd say 5 years would be long enough, especially if after he leaves the Rebels Obi settles down on Tatooine to become a hermit
I don't know man, I can't shake the feeling of "we wanted it to look like Mark Hamill, but we also wanted to go home early on a Friday"
Yeah, they looked god awful. Rebels animation ONLY works for some of the less humanoid aliens and characters in armor like Vader and Stormtroopers. The humans especially just look like shit. No idea what they were thinking with Yoda.
They got better over time, though Obi-Wan's beard always looked kinda plastic.
I really wish Lego hadn't tried to make the faces show accurate. Fucking awful.
The Rebels Yoda does look god awful, like TPM puppet Yoda bad (if I'm allowed to drop that bomb). I'm really hoping it's just a placeholder but it won't be.
So it seems based on the trailer that Ezra can activate the ancient Sith weapon that's going to come into play in the next few episodes. Do you think that anybody with Dark Side powers can activate it or is Ezra special?
Yoda is meant to look like the old Kenner toys apparently
He's really not survived the translation into Rebels style well
>And here we see the change in the coloration of the bark of the Kenobi tree as it ages
It does look better but fuck does that beard still look sharp enough to kill
Yeah, they're sticking to it. Filoni's explanation is that we're seeing Yoda through the filter of Ezra's imagination and this is how he's imagining him. It's a weak excuse though, and I think this one is taking his devotion to the McQuarrie style a little to far.
>He's really not survived the translation into Rebels style well
I don't get how that even happened, the old Yoda toy looks pretty accurate compared to the on-screen puppet. The one in Rebels looks like... I don't even know where to begin.
ANH Ben was an old man who knew his time was nearly over. I wouldn't mind him being shown to have one adventure before ANH where he gets to settle his old business with Maul.
And in some ways it makes sense. Bail knows where Obi-Wan has gone and why. It would make sense that he'd try to recruit a Jedi Master as the rebellion, not yet the Alliance, starts to heat up. Of course Obi-Wan will turn it down in the end, even if he helps them briefly. The Death Star was such a big deal that the message was pretty much, "There's no more time, help now or never."
It does raise some curious possibilities. If you're Bail would you just want Obi-Wan to get his ass to Alderaan with Luke and train both kids? Thanks to Uncle Owen that's impossible, but as someone risking his own safety and his daughters, his world, isn't that something you'd consider?
Yep, it looks like they called it a night when they made his model. He's even wearing a different outfit that doesn't resemble his TCW or RotS look.
I think one of the problems is that he looks to big. He kinda reminds me of an old man wearing a Yoda costume.
That's not a horrible excuse, as such. I can see that being the truth given Ezra's training is still early and frankly projecting messages through the Force has never been shown to this extent either. It's probably a version of the ghost training Yoda is undergoing. Projecting his consciousness through the Force while still alive would certainly be good practice for doing it once he's dead.
But it will definitely come off clumsy in the show since that's a creator hand-wave explanation that I can't see them working into the actual episode without it seeming forced.
No pun intended.
I'm not really seeing the resemblance to the toy, either.
To be fair he does say he hasn't gone by Obi-Wan since before Luke was born.
Autists naturally cried foul when ROTS has him being called Obi-Wan in scenes after Luke had been born.
I'll give him the benefit of a doubt on this one. Five years living in the desert probably seems a lot longer than it is. Definitely a long time when you're an old man and you know your only purpose left, to train Luke, just isn't making any progress.
Maybe it's how round his head is? Something wrong with the eyes? The Mouth? It just seems very off.
But at least he combed his hair before hopping on the Forcephone. Calling up young boys.
What's wrong is they didn't go full McQuarrie. It's Ezra imagining Yoda through the Force, time to go full Papa Meebur Smurf!
Yeah, that's kind of why the "Ezra doesn't know what Yoda looks like" explanation falls flat. If he doesn't know how to imagine Yoda, you'd think he would imagine him very differently instead of "close to what he really looks like but just kind of off"
I don't understand how they fucked up this bad when regardless of the shit animation style, they still generally nail the look of everything else. This genuinely looks like a parody.
I think you are onto something.
Aside from the head looking rounder the face looks gaunter, cause he doesn't have the same kind of cheeks and his ears are smaller too.
All things together kind of move him closer to 'old human male' proportions instead of being alien. Makes him quite a bit more uncanny valley.
Yeah, there's a definite oversimplification to the lines on his face.
The ears thing I believe is a Prequels era thing. I'm probably misremembering some of this but when they went to CGI to puppet they changed some of his design. There was some controversy over, what was it, Yoda's feet? They also changed his ears a bit.
It's one of those things where since they were updating him Lucas ordered some cosmetic changes.
>There was some controversy over, what was it, Yoda's feet?
Yeah, in some version he's got bird feet with a toe facing backwards and in some he doesn't.
I think the version in EpIII where he's twirling around the air, while fighting Dooku is probably canon now.
Funny thing is we also don't know anything about Yoda's race aside from it being called Yoda's race and there being another Jedi Council member in Kotor called Yaddel iirc.
He's the original unique snowflake.
Maz Kantana was supposed to be a Yoda like mentor figure, but she just shows up to serve drinks and look concerned in the finished film.
Only other member of Yoda's species to show up, doesn't say a word, and vanishes. Nobody ever speaks of her again.
I wonder what the purpose of Yaddle even was?
imagine if he imagined yoda as some great, physically power conan warrior?
I wish they'd left in more of Maz, and at least give her a bigger role in the later films. She's arguably the most helpful person to Rey.
I mean after Finn is wounded Kylo Ren seems to struggle with the lightsaber which instead flies to the person it's been calling to earlier. Rey gets into a half-hearted combat stance and ignites the saber, then ends up in a constant retreat when fighting Kylo Ren until her back is to a cliff. When he tells Rey she needs training, someone to show her the ways of the Force, Rey suddenly mouths "The Force." She closes her eyes just as Maz told her to and after several seconds manages to connect with the Force. Definitely the deciding moment of the movie as far as Rey is concerned. After that Rey doesn't fight with much flair, no fancy movies, but she's definitely sensing Ren's attacks before he makes them and either blocking, dodging or counter-attacking until he's down. There's no real finesse, only raw Force. Too rough to rely on forever, definitely in need of actual training.
The connection between Rey and Maz is there but it's still a bit subtle. Some people aren't making any connection between the two moments. I missed Rey repeating "The Force" before she closed her eyes the first time I watched it. This seems to be Rey's, "Use the Force, Luke," moment but they didn't want to actually have Maz's voiceover. Understandable or people might assume she died since they cut her appearance at the Resistance base.
Considering Rey has Luke now I wonder what they'll do with Maz.
>Tfw Jakku could have been a cool water world with speedboat style speeder chases and Somalian pirates.
was captured by Darth Sidious because he always wanted to hatefuck Yoda but without the homo. He ends up seducing Yaddle to the Dark Side. After he died she took the reigns of the Imperial Remnant, crafting a holographic identity for herself known as Snoke. Endgame of the sequels is evil "Yoda" emperor.
>Considering Rey has Luke now I wonder what they'll do with Maz.
one of the is gonna get Kenobi'd.
Or they'll run a good cop/bad cop training regime on Rey to enable her to deal with her dark side impulses better.
Why do people like CGI Wars?
It's completely out of place and tone with ROTS and makes no sense, the original series made more sense and continuity. Plus it didn't have dumb shit like Force gods and Maul coming back or that they fought Grievous then though ROTS makes it clear that it was the first time they ever even saw him up close.
Also Anakin and Grevious never meet in TCW but you'd know that if you actually watched it.
>dumber than any of the high level bullshit Mace and Yoda pull in Genndy Wars.
They're both equally good shit bruh.
I wonder if it's possible Luke says, "Thanks for the saber, now GTFO."
Maz knows the Force but not from the Jedi perspective. Meanwhile Luke is apparently trying to find the first Jedi Temple, which suggests...what? Going back to a purer form or understanding of the Jedi? Something from before the wars with the Sith changed them? Something that maybe explores the schism that lead some Jedi to become the Sith?
Those could be interesting but I'm not sure how you'd make a movie out of them, unless Kylo Ren and/or Snoke are actually interested in unearthing ancient Sith secrets and restore them as well?
Hell, I've got no clues. Spinning the dark guessing and not accomplishing a damn thing.
Someone had a mega or a google drive or something with the cross section and visual reference books, canon and not, didnt they?
Can some decent and good anon
or based uploaderlink / repost ?
>Considering Rey has Luke now I wonder what they'll do with Maz.
Yeah, I don't know what more there is to do with Maz. She's kind of a superfluous character. Now that Luke's in the picture he fits the wise mentor role, and if they need an old and wiser one they can just have Yoda's spirit appear. So what can they even do with Maz that isn't already covered by other, more established characters?
Everything has good and bad points. I can appreciate both.
One thing I love in TCWs is the near running gag that Anakin never actually runs into Grievous personally even though Obi-Wan and his own Padawan have had dealings with the general. This turns into a full blown joke during the unfinished Utapau episodes when Obi-Wan ends up captured by Grievous after landing on his ship while Anakin lands on a perfectly safe area with no one around him. Then while the two are using a giant kyber crystal that produces mini-Death Star style blasts to shoot THROUGH the walls of Grievous' ship for a quick escape Anakin rushes near Grievous without spotting him but Obi-Wan gives the general a cheeky little wave.
Shit was cash.
I want Luke to at least the a total BAMF in one film.
He should singlehandedly butcher the first order, Kylo in the next film. Keep Snoke for the 3rd one if you have to.
I think he deserved that.
You think we'll ever get a Star Wars movie without humans in prominent roles?
So, the green crossguard lightsaber in the trailer. We were told that Kylo's was poorly built, and required the quillions to stabilize the energy produced from the cracked crystal.
Is it likely that this was the case for this new iteration of the lightsabers of the Old Republic? In that the more contemporary single bladed hilts we have now are actually a relatively recent development in lightsaber design and that the old crossguard was due to a lack of efficient power regulation for stable crystals?
>Removing Starkiller from starwars fucked up the story a lot and now nothing makes sense. Starwars is now worthless.
This nigga for real? Is it already time to get the Death Scripts fully operational?
Okay, either I lost touch with the young people or your autocorrect acted up.
What the fuck are you talking about?
Doing a 911 call to have somebody's home invaded by swat teams?
>Then while the two are using a giant kyber crystal that produces mini-Death Star style blasts to shoot THROUGH the walls of Grievous' ship for a quick escape Anakin rushes near Grievous without spotting him but Obi-Wan gives the general a cheeky little wave.
All because they were only briefly obscured by a wall of smoke from the aforementioned blast
There was also a moment in the episodes prior where Obi-Wan and Anakin were being chased by Grievous through an Utapau cave network while hauling the giant crystal aboard a hoversled. Anakin was driving the sled while Obi-Wan was bringing up the rear, defending against Grievous and his MagnaGuards. The only thing preventing Anakin from getting a quick look at Grievous was Obi-Wan's shuffling from side to side in covering his blind spots
you misunderstood, the quillions were need to stabalize the sabre, not because of the crack crystal, but because that's the way the sabre was designed.
The cracked crystal only caused the saber to have ragged appearance.
I doubt they will let Luke do that though, from a story and character point of view.
Remember, Disney wants to put all the focus on the new characters, if they let Luke start wrecking shit, he might end up taking up too much of the spotlight.
So you know how the Katana-like darksaber and Ahsoka's white lightsabers are what were used in the Old Republic era? Do you think the crossguard lighsaber was the first incarnation of the Modern lighsaber we see in Star Wars? It is said to be ancient as well
So supposedly, as opposed to the cabled protosabers of the EU, we get crossguards. That or the crossguard evolves from the protosaber as the Jedi look to invest in less glaring design flaws. The crossguard is dangerous no doubt, but the fact that they knew how to use them should be testament enough to its usefulness.
Oh yeah, we had a fun little excited freak out here when we found out.
There's actually a funny thing in Siege of Lothal, when it comes back to commercial from Ezra getting his lightsaber held to his throat, a stormtrooper gets shot in the chest right before the TV-PG in the upper corner goes away.
I got a kick out of it.
I hope that they will go the route that he regrets trying to run.
It is essentially his fault that all the republic planets got destroyed since they didn't immediately got to Leia with that information.
There was no way he could ever find Leia considering she was on a secret Resistance base and he didn't have time to tell Poe anything. He spoke when he got the first chance after meeting Leia.
Not so much someone we've seen before, but Filoni said he technically appeared in an episode of TCW.
I still think it's more likely he was one of the random Utapau police forces. People seem to think he was a temple guard but I don't really see much to indicate that, especially since he implies the reason he knows about specific Jedi is because of the temple archives rather than because he had met them.
>but I don't really see much to indicate that
Preview pics of Kanans vision in the next episode and that parts of the Inquisitors outfit and the Temple Guards are identical
Shoulderpads and so on seem to be the same model.
>I guess TIE Fighters have an ejector seat afterall ;))))))
Jesus fucking christ.
Why is that Star Trek isn't as popular as Star Wars? They seem to be the same thing for except the lightsabers
That would be both funny and sad. His training wasn't even at their level and we never really saw those guys do anything other than look cool and point their yellow sabers dramatically.
So how bad is Aftermath actually? And is the same guy writing all the aftermath books?
one is science fiction, and attempts, in one way or another, to create a concrete world that might exist at some point.
the other is science fantasy, and has more in common with myths, legends and folklore.
Pretty damn bad with some tolerable moments, mostly some of the vague information on what the Republic is doing in it's formative days after Endor. However most of the book is a random bullshit adventure that doesn't really matter and few care about.
And yeah so far he still has a job finishing this trilogy.
>And is the same guy writing all the aftermath books?
Yes. The pre-release details say his next book is going to show how the Empire treats gays. We already found this out in Lords of the Sith with Moff Morrs. They don't care who you fuck
Its surprisingly tolerable if you listen to the audiobook. Its just riddled with bullshit like what was just described.
And yea, its the same hack for the whole trilogy. Unless he (hopefully) gets fired.
Been listening to a couple Star Wars audio books, just finished Tarkin a couple days ago and jumped right into Lords of the Sith. Both have been pretty enjoyable so far. Certainly makes my drive to work a little more interesting.
It's pretty bad. It's not "FULL SJW GAY PANDERING" like people keep saying, but the writing feels like it was done by a 15 year old. He also tries way too hard to make it feel like Star Wars by throwing in too many references.
It's like if you ever read a story where one character is from Texas and every other thing he says is "why that's as big as a Texas longhorn" or "squished 'em like an armadillo outside Amarillo" or "boy howdy I bet Sam Houston himself couldn't find a twister bigger than that one!" and just needlessly bludgeoning you over the head with the fact that this character is from Texas? Imagine the entire book being that, except Star Wars. The narrative is just obsessively trying to remind you that it's Star Wars.
I love both, but they're very different. Star Trek is for people who want actual science fiction, philosophy, politics, etc. It's got action and adventure, but it's more about the characters themselves and thoughtful storytelling. Star Wars is much more fantastical and bombastic.
It's pretty bad. The writing style is awful since it's all in present tense for some reason and riddled with sentence fragments, and none of the characters are likable. We also keep getting flashes to other unrelated characters whose stories go absolutely nowhere.
This is why Star Trek had a longstanding ban against having fans write the shows throughout the 1990s. And when I say fans, I mean people who are really devoted, not the folks who just watch the show, the ones who investigate every edge of it.
Star Wars is much more all-encompassing, covering a wide range of subjects of genres, with myth, legend and folklore as a driving force and light sci-fi as a backdrop. It has the potential to power and renew itself with the broad array of ground it can cover, keeping up with the times by blending the contemporary and the historical, making it much more organic compared to Star Trek.
Star Trek limits itself to being relatively hard sci-fi, injecting philosophical and social commentary to make up for the human element. While it does have its appeal, it's very niche as a result of defining and pigeonholing itself into its strengths. In addition, it attempts to create a concrete, perfect future world that might one day exist, but fails at making it tangible and dare I say relatable since its narratives focus only on the crew of some ship or other without really going out to develop the universe from the ground up.
What's funny about the author is how he was defending his writing style saying "this is how *I* write, and I won't let anyone else tell me what is right" and "I'd rather write a book in my own style than the style people say is correct".
That's like taking a shit on a plate and calling it a steak dinner, and when he's yelled at, he says "this is the steak *I* want to make and you can't tell me otherwise." It's a bullshit self-serving way of thinking.
Garbage. The worst thing to happen to Star Wars since Karen Traviss and from a technical standpoint the worst book I've ever read in my entire life. It is very, very badly written. It should never have made it to print.
>Its surprisingly tolerable if you listen to the audiobook.
I have not read it, but after reading what defenders say the reason seems to be because it written more like a script than a book.
Problem with that is, when you're commissioned to write a book... you're supposed to write a damn book.
Pretty much. It works in the audiobook because the style lends itself well to the format of a radio play, and the guy reading it takes full advantage of it.
That said, the audiobook improves the experience but it doesn't change the fact that this is poorly written or that the author has no idea how to build an actual story or develop characters. It's just much better than reading it.
You're wrong about it not being SJW pandering trash. There are multiple gay characters thrown about for no other reason than to mention that people in Star Wars can be gay and for the author to go "Look at me Tumblr, I'm so progressive like all of you! Now protect me from all the legitimate criticism about my shit writing on social media by calling the critics hateful bigots!". Which is exactly what he did. And has decided to double down on it for the sequel by forcing the story to focus on homosexuality as an issue in galactic politics. It's pure cancer and needs to be stopped.
Mandalore as a planet has been reduced to a single planet only habitable due to it's sealed dome. It's taken generations for the moon of Concordia to recover enough for the forests to return.
With no choice Mandalorians fought their greatest fight - against their own warrior impulses.
That is the in-universe reason.
Waging war on every planet you find may eventually rally other ones to bomb your homeworld into submission. At this point, I'd imagine any race would rethink their ways. Besides, it seems that because of Maul and Deathwatch and then the Empire, Mandalore was returned to it's warrior ways
>shitty CGI Kid's Cartoon about Rebels literally destined to fail since they ain't Luke, Leia, and Han and they're not even the Rogue One guys
>Not a shitty CGI Kid's Cartoon about the Exile chasing Revan to the outer rim of the galaxy for answers
I'm watching Star Wars Clone Wars now, I never watch all of it. I watched only the first season several years back and I do specifically leaving off when they introduced Cad Bane in TV promotions.
I've picked up again from Season 2 and this shit is really good. My question is, how do they allow this on modern TV?
>Threats of death all over the place
>Darth Sideous planning on doing a mind-altering slave surgery on babies and not caring if they all die in the process
>Dudes, albeit clones and sentient insect people, dying all over the place
This show is hardcore for a Cartoon Network series.
They're lucky they got to exist at all as a living culture. As much as people may think Lucas did Mandalore a disservice, the introduction of them showed that they weren't 100% pacifistic anyway. But Lucas could have just gone full steam with his original intent and have them extinct.
>always warlike all the time
>turn your own planet into a fucked up nuclear apocalypse desert because you're always warlike all the time.
>your kids think your entire generation was full of warmongering dickheads and they shun your honorabu warrior legacies. Become pacifists.
>Later generations think your generation was fucking awesome and want to become badass warlike terrorists.
>Pacifists tell them to look outside at the fucked up apocalypse desert planet you made for them by being a fuckup. Remain pacifists.
Same reason why the Japanese eschewed Empire, military power, and violence following World War II
The Mandalorians warred so much to the point of their nearly wiping themselves out, which is why Mandalore's surface is bleak and sunbleached safe for the living domes. Satine's faction eventually rose from the ashes of these wars to prompt a change in thinking lest the Mandalorian people completely wipe themselves out of the history books, and thus worked to create a new, peaceful society where people could thrive without having to fight, while exiling the warrior sects to Concordia.
The warriors didn't like this, believing Satine to have sullied the traditional name "Mandalorian", and fought to bring down Satine's rule for a return to old traditions and values while using the backdrop of the galactic Clone Wars as a rationale.
This indeed works for a while following Maul and Deathwatch's coup in Season 5, which unfortunately culminated in the Republic invasion and apparent occupation of Mandalore, whose aftermath and result we'll likely be seeing in the second half of Rebels Season 2 with the introduction of the Mandalorian Protectors
>shitty CGI Kid's Cartoon about Rebels literally destined to fail since they ain't Luke, Leia, and Han
But Anon, it was a huge success. Lids love Ahsoka, TCW, and Rebels just as they do our beloved OT cast.
>Watching the Clovis Arc again
>Always talked about how crazy the arc was for how quickly the Sith get things done when they take a more direct approach to matters
>It's still my favorite arc of Season 6 as a result, and I've since started writing a stupid fanfiction where the Core 5 were busted off Scipio and brought to Muunlinst by former Banking Clan Chariman San Hill to rally an alternative source of funding for the Separatist war effort, prompting the Republic to invade Muunilinst in order to bleed the CIS dry of any economic support
Would anyone want to read this? I'm mostly doing it because the Battle of Muunilinst was perhaps the best part of Genndy Wars, and with how Filoni Wars essentially remade Genndy's Battle of Mon Calamari, I'd do the same with Muunilinst. Probably won't feature Obi-Wan and Anakin like in Genndy Wars, but rather OCs if only to show that there were more Jedi and clone units active during the war than just the few we see in TCW
I like Starkiller. Thought Witwer handled the character very well and made him a likable person over the course of the game. Even if his role in the game is... eugh. I'd love to see him get recanonized as long as they rework the events of the game.
I wonder how viewed the OT is by the younger fans. Until recently it seemed like the cartoons and maybe Prequel movies were the most viewed, but with the sudden rise of Star Wars fever over the last few years I wonder how much this has changed.
The toy sales sadly aren't much of an indicator given there's no way to distinguish between no interest in, say, Luke sales versus or people not buying a figure they already have.
Might be interesting, I also thought the Battle of Muunilinst was the best part of that and I was hoping it would be re-introduced into TCW at some point.
Also I still want to know exactly where San Hill fits into the heirarchy since he's apparently not the actual leader of the IBC
The Force powers were absolutely crazy stupid, but if you're playing a game called The Force Unleashed you don't mind when it has crazy stupid Force powers. That's the fun, after all.
If my experiences are any indication, they think it's just another awesome movie with awesome characters.
My cousins like Luke a lot, but they also like Anakin, Ewan Obi-Wan, Dooku, etc...
My female cousins really love Ahsoka.
>My female cousins really love Ahsoka.
Then you male cousins are FUCKING FAGGOTS.
How do I deal with normie wageslaves making fun of my lightsaber?
In my personal opinion it, he shouldn't even be able to kill some of those Jedi, specifically Shaak Ti.
Or have been able to angle the Star Destroyer down.
Or have gone 1v1 against Sidious.
Nah, it's easy to look past as nothing more than a contained element of a video game. Fucking Kota summons a Force energy shield in his boss fight, Paratus can create junk golems all over Raxus' surface and Shaak Ti can manipulate a giant fucking saarlac. The whole game is supposed to be over-the-top for its own sake and I though it was a lot of fun. It just should never have been representative of actual events relating to canon, nor should any power levels presented in the game be taken into consideration by the rest of the universe.
>"only kids liked the dumb prequel":people who dislike 1-3
>"no kids liked the prequels":you
I mean I'm 90% sure this is bait, but even still I'm intrigued by the new direction being taken here.
Am I the only one who prefers the unofficial jedi-training? I really like the post-jedi purge society during the Empire era.
The fighting feels more intense and personal. I like seeing the jedis as wandering samurai rather than valiant paladins of a high-order comprised of tens of thousands.
Are you making fun of me because most star wars fans feel the same way I do probably?
I always thought of the jedi as rhonin travelling from planet to planet hiding in plain sight and only bringing out the saber when absolutely necessary.
But...the post you replied to said what you did, only in less detail.
For what it's worth the Force can do a lot of those things but in limited circumstances. Talzin can manifest energy blades and blaster reflecting energy shields. Nightsisters can also animate corpses and create working cyborg parts out of junk that leak the same "gas" that empowered Savage Opress, and which he leaked from his wounds.
You can, through the Force, manipulate/command creatures although nothing thus far the size of a sarlacc. Oh and Savage Opress once utilized that AOE Repulse power against a bunch of attacking droids, though that's just a slight variation on the usual TK abilities.
This isn't in any way meant to justify TFU or it's depiction of events or even how the powers worked, just pointing out that we've seen examples or similar abilities with the Force, even if they aren't powers used by the Jedi or Sith. Nightsisters, for instance, utilize a lot of ritualistic "magic" with the Force, especially utilizing multiple sisters at the same time. The rituals are usually shown as pretty extreme uses of the Force, especially when they are ways for multiple users to join powers.
That and Talzin is pretty bullshit in her own right, but since she's nearly on or at Yoda and Sheev's level for her faction you kind of give her a pass. Some of her powers seemed more advanced than the crone who raised the undead.
You mean Mark Hamill and his cousin Luke Skywalker
He's fun. His Sidious is a little off, but serviceable.
FWIW I'm pretty sure Filoni and the others on staff liked sneaking in elements from the games. Oh, and one of the main concept artists for Rebels/TCWs worked on TFU. The spinning lightsabers used by the Inquisition in Rebels was based on unused concept art. Probably just the general design, pretty sure it didn't actually spin. But maybe?
You gotta remember that a lot of the time the reason shit gets censored is because CN is scared it'll upset investors and the fuckers who make toys, those shits are are sensitive about their images. But as Lucas bankrolled the whole thing there was no fear of losing investors or advertisers so CN basically didn't give a shit and let them do whatever.
We got a glimpse of what we could have if advertisers didn't have the sway they have with almost every other show. And it was good.
That said their success with TCW regardless of content does seem to have made Disney pretty happy to let Rebels do whatever too.
We haven't had decapitations and burning geonosians yet, but a few people have been horribly spaced, civilians have been butchered by the Inquisitors and stormtroopers die by the bucket(head) load.
So I guess it's looking good.
What? No, that's just Luke Skywalker and Luuke Skywalker. Luuuke Skywalker is still in his dressing room. Let's just say Miss Piggy cornered him mid costume change creating a rather compromising situation.
Come Episode VIII they're using the same tech they did for Tron and de-aging Michael Douglas in Ant-Man to create an entire Luke based clone army. MSW said so.
Been there, done that. She likes new looks instead of reusing old.
That's not true but anyone that actually didn't enjoy Starkiller is both an idiot that can't understand the plot of his story and honestly? Not a real Star Wars fan for being so simpleminded.
Literally EVERYTHING he does through the first game makes complete sense and fits with the lore PERFECTLY
Yeah, posts on here convinced me that it all made sense. I was just a dumb kid when I first played it. Someone pointed out to me that when they saw Starkiller at the end stay back to allow them time to escape they thought they were witnessing the death of the last Jedi and that totally justified why they used his family crest for the Republic.
>That's not true but anyone that actually didn't enjoy Starkiller is both an idiot that can't understand the plot of his story and honestly? Not a real Star Wars fan for being so simpleminded.
>Literally EVERYTHING he does through the first game makes complete sense and fits with the lore PERFECTLY
I really loved the Force Unleashed but you're pretentious and trying too hard to seem profound.
I'm being dead serious. Everything in that game makes sense and only dummies didn't understand it.
>HURR WHY VADER MAKE REBELLION MAKE NO SENSE HURR
He's doing exactly what Palpatine did, creating a civil war so that he can maneuver himself into position to kill Palpatine. HE TELLS YOU THIS
>HURR WHY HE SO POWERFUL
Before the game was even released the devs explained that it was cranked up to 11 so that you, the player, can have fun and that you weren't supposed to take the power levels seriously. The events were meant to be canon, just not the game's interpretation of them.
>HURRDDURRRHURRGGG WHY HE DEFEAT VADER1111
He was trained by Vader himself in true Sith fashion, if anyone is going to defeat Vader other than Luke it's going to be an apprentice he trained himself.
>AHURRRRRR HIS FAMILY CREST USED FOR REBEL ALLIANCE AHDDURRAGGGG1111
Because the founders of the Rebel Alliance saw him fucking die for them and as mentioned saw his death as the last light of the Jedi going out of the galaxy forever.
I really wish they would reboot Monkey island. That game was sick.
>mohawk or sidecut
i'm betting bald with a little bit of stubble, and some piercings of course
>just because i'm a pacifist doesn't mean I won't defend myself
>refuses to kill someone threatening to blow her and everyone else up
obi-wan needs to fuck the stupid out of her
I remember there was that arc dedicated to slavery and I thought to myself, "How the hell did this get on a kids network?". Obi-Wan and Rex were slaves and you'd see the shit like them whipping slaves, killing slaves, and slaves committing suicide.
I also noticed Clones dying got turned up to be more brutal as seasons went on. Usually they'd die immediately by blaster bolt but then you'd see things like Cutup dying to that worm, Clones getting eaten by animals during the Ryloth episode, or some of the deaths during the Citadel. Umbara also stood out a lot. Clones got smashed all over the place and you'd hear the moaning and groaning all over the place.
>Nah, it's easy to look past as nothing more than a contained element of a video game. Fucking Kota summons a Force energy shield in his boss fight
That's a canon thing they can do though.
>Paratus can create junk golems all over Raxus' surface
Seems like a stretch, but I'm willing to bet making one is actually possible. We've seen golem legs...sort of
>and Shaak Ti can manipulate a giant fucking saarlac
Which is perfectly within canon.
Too bad she's dead, Obi-Wan now has to settle for her less stupid and less pacifist sister.
I think the worst for me was in one of the Mandalore arcs when those little spider droids get into a clone's suit and shred him. He just kind of flails around screaming and then goes limp.
>You can pinpoint exactly moment when the lightsaber bit into his neck
Ouch. You deserved better my pale husbando.
>I wish we had an episode focusing on them
It would have been fun. Maybe make the Rebels UK comic into an episode? It would have worked. Seeing Aresko throw another Imp under the bus would have been funny. Seeing his smug face one more time without being beheaded would have been nice.
But Filoni doesn't do nice.
Don't cry. He is in space heaven fucking Twi'Leks forever. Pic related.
>not liking the dignified look of Satine
>not wanting to help her let her hair down out of that headdress thing
Mfw she joins the dark side
I think we'll probably see Obi-Wan, and if Luke appears he'll probably be a cameo rather than someone who has some adventure with the crew.
Honestly at this point it's probably easier to guess who ISN'T going to show up.
Pretty sure Luke never goes off Tatooine until ANH, and Obi-wan can't afford to leave the planet either. Ghost crew has no reason to go to Tatooine, unless they want to get friendly with Jabba.
I wonder if any jedi lusted after obi-wan's big
Will Dave Filone be strong enough to kill his waifu AND the waifu of the century?
>Will Dave Filone be strong enough to kill his waifu AND the waifu of the century?
He's been gathering strength for years anon, why do you think he kills so many beloved characters. He's killing them to gather the collective pain of others and using it to give him the strength to kill the one he loves the most.
Season 2 is actually 4 years before ANH begins, Season 1 being 5 years before it. It's definitely possible given that much time. I mean look at all that happened during The Clone Wars, that was over the course of 3 years and the show only over the course of a year and a half or so.
>It's an "Obi-Wan hides the body" episode
The amount of asspain that it would cause would be astronomical.
Pic related might be the smallest estimate that could me measured.
>Ahsoka manages to get away injured but still alive
>Finds Ezra and starts making a plan to get away
>Suddenly pauses when she feels something wrong
>Lightsaber through the back
>"Good my young apprentice"
If Ahsoka really does get murdered, it might be the biggest moment in all of Star Wars for me. Bigger than Han, possibly bigger than anything in the future movies. Unlike the movie characters, we've had an entire 6-season tv show to bond with Ahsoka, and she is recurring in this newer one. We've seen her bond with Anakin (Lets face it, the franchises primary character) more than any other character. If Vader really does kill her, it will be the biggest moment in all of Star Wars for me.
I understand its controversial, and some people may be like "b-but she's not a movie character!" or "how can you like her more than Han!?!" but it's just how I feel.
Especially for the younger generation that grew up with her. She was designed initially a self-insert, a way for kids and teens to be introduced to the Star Wars universe, to learn as she learned, and seeing her all grown up, and then killed by her master?
It's such a bold move, I am wondering if Filoni even has it in him.
But if he does...
Rollin, here's a rebel to be thread-relevant.
>does so through Vader
>forever haunts his dreams
And like all teens and young kids, the brutal harsh world of adulthood comes crashing down and chokes the life out of you.
Also he definitely has it in it, everyone is expecting it to happen and it has to happen. He's already mentioned that Vader has no love for her anymore and that it's more of a twisted hatred.
He might keep her alive initially though to try and find out where Obi-Wan is though.
>HURR WHY VADER MAKE REBELLION MAKE NO SENSE HURR
>HURR WHY HE SO POWERFUL
>HURRDDURRRHURRGGG WHY HE DEFEAT VADER1111
>AHURRRRRR HIS FAMILY CREST USED FOR REBEL ALLIANCE AHDDURRAGGGG1111
You sure showed those dummies that you're an adult.
>No I am no longer Anakin Skywalkayadayadaydada [generic Sithspeak]
>No, you're Anakin
>[Something something dark side] [something something power]
>You sure you're not Anakin?
>Bitch, the sequel to this series is already out. I'm in it. You're not.
>Alas. Alack. A plague on both you houses. [ded]
>[Someone shows up for the sole purpose of calling Vader a monster]
>Vader leaves and reports to Sheev from the kneepad
They COULD get really creative, given the depth of their relationship. But this is Disney we're talking about so they ARE going to use this cookie-cutter formula.
She's going to die Anon. It's already been foreseen by the Force, just like Rex and friends will die too.
You can't fight fate Anon. You don't know the power of the dark side.
I honestly feel the same way. Growing up with the prequels and the Clone Wars has made me more attached to characters from those periods than I do for those from the OT. As you said, all that development we get from Ahsoka throughout the 6 seasons of Clone Wars helped us bond more with the character and will definitely hurt if she does die.
>But this is Disney we're talking about
It's not though
Disney is just the channel
Rebels is made by the same team that was on TCW and are given a lot of freedoms due to the success of it
>And has decided to double down on it for the sequel by forcing the story to focus on homosexuality as an issue in galactic politics
Fucking shit, how? I didn't care about gay characters until this, no matter how shoehorned. I just assumed nobody in Star Wars gave a fuck. Hell, nobody in Warhammer 40 fucking K gives a fuck IIRC. How stupid.
I was going to at least try to read through Aftermath. Maybe I can still get a laugh from it.
Unfortunately they don't have the same freedoms when it comes to the violence. The deaths in this show might not be fewer, but they will be tamer. My main beef with this is that we'll never learn the specifics of what's happening to the force sensitive children the Empire is hoarding.
Theres something that has me bothering since i watch ANH. In a scene one of the generals says to Vader that he is the oy one who still talks like a crazy guy about the power of the Force. How is that possible if the emperor uses the Force too and the Inquisitors are present.
>Ah the Apprentice.
>Ahsoka makes a snarky ass remark about him being Lord Vader now
>Vader turns a corner and tries to slice her with his lightsaber in this dark labrynth they're fighting in
>She keeps making snarky comments and mentioning Anakin Skywalker, Obi-Wan, and Padme
>Vader starts to get angry and begins Force Crushing things before she leaps out with a sneak attack
>Only to be caught mid-air in a Force Choke as Vader turns around
>Vader scoffs at her and the Jedi
>"Anakin fight it, I know there is still good in you"
>"That name no longer has any meaning for me"
>"We can fight the Emperor together, like old time's"
>Vader gets ready to kill her before she manages to escape thanks to Rex
>"You have learned much young one"
>"You'll find I'm full of surprises"
>Ahsoka and Rex begin their escape before the Clones stay behind to hold Vader off
>Episode ends with Vader catching back up to Ahsoka who has now rendezvoused with Ezra and company
>They both draw their lightsabers as the blaster doors shut and Ezra and the crew fly off
There, that is what is going to happen, it'll be left open ended until Season 3, when we find out she's being interrogated to find out Obi-Wan and other Jedi locations.
>tfw the superior version of ashoka's going to get fucked soon
what do i have to sacrifice to darth filoni to keep him from killing her?
She doesn't have to die.
Just write her out of the story.
Maybe she just abandons everything out of disgust or maybe she falls into a sarlacc. You don't have to kill her just because she isn't in the OT
Well it's possible he didn't know. I'm sure on the whole inquisitors were very rare in the empire, and its not like palpatine was cutting down people with lighting and blades every day, he's busy running an empire.
>What if they make Kanan and Ezra blatantly stronger than Luke
They are. At least, stronger than OT Luke, we don't know what he has become since then.
>What if they even beat Vader in a fight?
That is never EVER going to happen.
This, if I recall even the RotS novel goes into it, with him cutting up the security film to only show Mace trying to kill him and himself not using a Lightsaber or the Force, to prove the Jedi are a threat.
Feloni and co won't do that, especially since in this show Vader is supposed to represent absolute despair and they've confirmed that the gang will never make a major victory over the Empire until the series finale so the show won't contradict the films.
What if Kanan and Ezra fail at trying to be Jedi again and they just give up and fight like normal soldiers? I don't want to be attached to a bunch of walking dead, I don't want them to die.
That seems stupid and a complete waste of a useful resource. The most common theory is that they're trained to become specialized tools for the Empire that use the force. The Inquisitors would only be one such tool, and the reason this can't be shown is because it likely involves a lot of abuse and literal brainwashing.
Honestly I figure that the best way to do it would be to have Ahsoka come closer than anyone in the series except Luke in Return of the Jedi to killing Vader, but Vader stabs her before she can finish the job.
Like maybe she cuts off a limb, damages his helmet, gives him what would be a fatal blow if he wasn't already a cyborg.
Disney IS Star Wars now.
It is too late for them.
No. Luke just gets angry, channels the dark side, and beats him down. Vader's legs couldn't really take the amount of force being throw at him and they collapsed because they're mechanical.
I mean he probably resigned himself to death at that moment and was fine with it considering how much everything about Vader mentions how much he hates himself, what he's done, the Emperor, everything, but it's all he has left.
Now whether Vader was truly trying or not because it was Luke he was fighting or toying around with him is a different story. But that isn't the same as giving up, it's just fucking around.
Why not a duel on the Death Star being completed? She's just not able to get the information on it back to them, only that exists.
I think it was more Vader realized how bad getting Force Lightning fucking sucks and that it was his son getting it like he once did too. I mean Luke did toss his lightsaber away and stop himself from killing Vader when he realized that Vader was also missing his right arm too.
I'm pretty sure Sheev was just doing it slowly to torture Luke because Sheev figured Vader was too much of a pussy to do anything, and Sheev wanted to enjoy every second of both of their pain.
From a story telling perspective though its boring if they don't do something big.
This is kind of a problem with the series as a whole really. If you hold the OT as sacred then you can't ever make more powerful villains than Vader and Sheev and all sorts of other limiting factors.
George didn't give a shit. That's why he didn't try to make the PT look older even though its set before, he just wanted to do new stuff and really that's understandable but sometimes it fucks with continuity, like why was Grevious so advanced? Makes Vader's cybernetics seem shitty. Explanations for this have been concocted after the fact but the real reason is George didn't care about making sure he didn't seem more advanced than Vader he just wanted to do something new.
What do you guys prefer? Originality even if it steps on parts of the OT or continuity above all else?
I think it was pretty obvious that Vader wanted Luke to defeat him rather than killing his son. It's why he baited him by mentioning Leia.
When he finally gets Luke to commit to killing him I think he was ready to die.
Well Vader is pretty advanced honestly. I mean he does still get to keep his body and force powers. If he had been like Grievous he likely wouldn't have been able to use the force at all, only a lightsaber and Sheev knows that the force is better than a lightsaber as evident with his duel against Yoda.
I mean hell, even Vader's cybernetics are more advanced than Luke's, granted Luke's was hastily put together with some scrap on the Falcon, but still. And most of the tech, weapons, ships, etc. were put out of commission by the Senate due to there not being a need for it anymore now that war is over and by the time the Rebel Alliance started picking up, Palpatine was trying to dismantle the Imperial Senate.
Either way, I'd imagine if Lucas had been given the opportunity he'd have remade the original trilogy with up to date stuff and absolutely ruined it.
But honestly, I don't particularly care, I just like Star Wars. The PT is the PT, the OT is the OT, and the ST will be the ST, and Legends will be Legends, so on and so on, etc. blah blah blah. Star Wars never had much continuity and shit to begin with, I mean there is a 3 year gap between ANH and ESB of just blank nothing.
Depending on how much is filmed before December, during Rogue One. We already got trailers for Civil War and Apocalypse in December and attached to TFA, which are coming out in May like 8 is.
>George didn't give a shit. That's why he didn't try to make the PT look older even though its set before, he just wanted to do new stuff and really that's understandable but sometimes it fucks with continuity, like why was Grevious so advanced? Makes Vader's cybernetics seem shitty.
This isn't true at all.
Most of the OT is set in outer rim shitholes. The PT showcased the beautiful advanced core worlds.
As for the cybernetics, I'll point you towards Luke's hand in episode 5. Synthetic flesh, something Vader/Anakin couldn't get at the time of the PT.
Plus Bespin showcased advanced tech and aesthetics in the OT.
Anyways, I am definitely on the side of keeping Vader/Sheev unbeatable. And nothing should trump Luke's achievements in the OT. But everything else is fair game, Rebels should have the freedom to tell big stories if it wants. Clone Wars sure did.
for a story, it's not really about making the villain bigger than Vader, or the Emperor. They're too big, too impersonal (for the Ghost crew) instead you have more personal villains which is why they made the Inquisitors. From this things can be "big" based on how close to our characters they are. The attack on the broadcaster station was a big moment for the crew, and Ezra especially, because the show took the time to show how involved he was with the idea and what it meant to him.
>Lucas would update the OT with new stuff
I think that's absolutely what he would have done. He would have probably given Vader 8 arms or something since Grevious had 4.
I understand there are many in universe explanations but I feel these all reek of after the fact rationalization.
Gerore made Grevious cause he wanted a 4 armed robot and now he could have one. The man did not care how it would compare with Vader. He even says in that recent Charlie Rose interview that he always just wanted to do new things in Star Wars.
>i killed 500 million droids i can take this giant cat piece of shit
Oh, Gregor seems to be pretty familiar with the... particulars of Lasats
>coming out in May like 8 is.
Holy shit, all this time I thought Episode VIII was a December 2017 release, but no, you're right, it's in May.
>Gerore made Grevious cause he wanted a 4 armed robot and now he could have one
This is true but you also missed in numerous interviews how disappointed Lucas was with the technology of the time. That's why he became such an innovator with special effects. Modern CGI and technological innovation mostly stems from this vision.
He wanted massive sprawling cities and vast cantinas filled with strange and magnificent aliens with incomprehensible terrains. Instead he got suits of rubber masks and matte paintings. It's amusing people got attached to the bad effects and insist they're better than modern technology.
>I understand there are many in universe explanations but I feel these all reek of after the fact rationalization.
These things are quite clear if you bother to watch the films. You don't have to read anything to know this, you just need to use your brain.
>George made Grievous cause he wanted a 4 armed robot and now he could have one.
Actually, George made Grievous because he wanted a leader of the droid armies. All he specified is that he needed to look scary. He could be a droid himself, but didn't have to be. It just so happened that the design he chose was a four-armed one. The designs for Magna Guards were from the first batch of potential designs for him.
> The man did not care how it would compare with Vader.
Yes he did. He also specified that he didn't want them to be creating another Darth Vader.
I suggest watching the featurette on the designing of Grievous
>He even says in that recent Charlie Rose interview that he always just wanted to do new things in Star Wars.
I don't see how that's a bad thing. He doesn't want things to look stagnant. He doesn't want to do something simply because it'll appease the nostalgia of fans, which is why the PT tell the story of a Shakespearean Tragedy instead of simply retelling the Hero's Journey with Anakin.
I'm not saying I'm attached just saying that it does present an issue.
And yea I know George wanted to more in the OT I'm sure he wanted to do more in the PT but the point is for him fulfilling the vision of vast sprawling incomprehensible alien worlds and tech was more important than absolute continuity with the OT. In fact its quite clear he was more than happy to just change the OT rather than tone down the things were supposed to be older in universe.
This is a stance many fans seem to disagree with but really George's position isn't without merit.