You know, he's actually kind of a shitty villain. There's

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>>79040200
>Look at me! I'm a retard who's never read Kirby's Fourth World material OR Morrison's Final Crisis!

Darkseid is the God of Totalitarian Dictators

>>79040200
his only problem is that he is doomed to failure

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You know, he's actually kind of a shitty villain. There's nothing interesting or memorable about him aside from "HE'S A BIG FAT MEANIE!"

>>79040200
Kill yourself

>>79040298

He's come really damn close to success though. The only reason he loses is because he's in the DCU, a universe that literally runs off of heroism and happy endings. In fact the only way to stop that is for the readers themselves to stop wanting to see heroism and happy endings (see Multiversity).

>>79040200
>I know nothing interesting or memorable about him aside from "HE'S A BIG FAT MEANIE!"

ftfy

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>>79040309
You know, he's actually kind of a shitty villain. There's nothing interesting or memorable about him aside from "HE'S A BIG FAT MEANIE!"

>>79040200
Darkseid is a shitty boring villain, not sure why he shows up so often in DC stuff

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>>79040390
You know, he's actually kind of a shitty villain. There's nothing interesting or memorable about him aside from "HE'S A BIG FAT MEANIE!"

He's one of those villains who can't really win without fucking the entire world/setting/status-quo up, the poor bastard. Can't even kill off some of the heroes, because money of course.

The big two could really benefit from having their stories progress naturally from a fixed point in time, really. Then you could have villains like this act more effectively, with the consequence spanning indefinitely.

Jesus the retarded casuals are out in full fucking force today.

I just dislike how so many stories that involve the New Gods feel the need to have a Darkseid endgame. Can't we just have, say, GG without having to build up to "the big guy"?

>>79040200
Dont try and understand the methods of a god you fucking peasant.

>>79040239
>Darkseid is the God of Totalitarian Dictators

This, the guy is not about conquering, is about destroying free will, controlling life it self, he would never be happy with something as shitty as reality bending.
>>79040571
Read what this guy said
>>79040353

Thats the thing, Big DC stories are usually fables, they are about light and shit, they are not humanistic stories. Take Final crisis as an example and the journey of batman and superman, their stories are about how the very idea of a superhero (superman) or the idea of heroism (batman) can face a situation that is impossible to win, they keep being heroes and their will and the meaning of being superman and batman end up reshaping the events, Superman literally goes outside the multiverse using a fictional suit to face the darkness that feeds on stories. Batman totally outmatched Facing a god, condemned to die refuses to kill darkseid and tries to save Turpin by shooting darkseid at the shoulder, his journey is to go back in time, as a plan of DS to end all heroes, turning Batman will to live in a weapon, infecting him, and yet he, a human can have a happy ending, he uses his friends to save himself.
That's why Darkseid sucks as a villian in stories like JL origins, he is not just a brute, he needs to be a god, a ultimate challange to the heroes, not just someone to punch but someone that puts the very notion of heroes winning in danger.

>>79040200
He's grrreat.

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>>79040604
You know, he's actually kind of a shitty villain. There's nothing interesting or memorable about him aside from "HE'S A BIG FAT MEANIE!"

>>79040200
It's his ambitions that make him interesting.

What was his plan in Final Crisis again?

>inb4 crashing this plane

>>79040200
>jobseid

He has literally never won a fight, ever

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>>79041218
>What was his plan in Final Crisis again?

The part of the story that shows Earth after its been exposed to the Anti-Life Equation fucking terrified me. Dante, eat your heart out, that's probably the best depiction of Hell I've seen in fiction.

>>79041279
Does anyone have this scene?It should explain the true terror of Darkseid's endgame.

I'd love a Darkseid series about managing the shitbirds on Apokolips, conducting experiments in psychology, philosophy, economics that the Nazis couldn't begin to dream of, mercilessly crushing would-be superheroes and rebellions and publicly executing their leaders (even though he organized their whole shtick behind the scenes), and deftly outmaneuvering New Genesis attempts at diplomacy/subterfuge.

brb new fanfic idea

>>79041419
Scene with three billions hands?

>>79041195
Nice.

>>79041195
>they are not humanistic stories

Bull shit they're not. The further you go out in scope in DC crises and events, the more human-centric the themes are. Superman is able to punch out a vampire feeding on the Multiverse because WE are behind him rooting to win. Ultimately the things that determine how the universe runs are not impersonal physical laws of nature, but very human-centric, intimate truths about the nature of humanity and our place in its story.

Compare it to Marvel, where the bigger in scope you go, the more nihilistic and uncaring towards humanity the universe tends to get.

>>79041584
That's the one.

>>79041195
I don't think Darkseid really has the scope to be the big bad tonthe entore DC universe tho.

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>>79042334
>god of despotism
>his adopted son is god of freedom
Pottery? Pottery.

So is Darkseid, Morgoth or Sauron?

>>79040200
This is what and asspained Shistain Jewniverse fan looks like.

>>79042588
Darkseid is Morgoth.