>>79020623 >What are some of the biggest problems you have with todays cartoons that you don't want to see in the future? I want all the whiny douchebags on 4chan who are literally unpleaseable and define themselves by "opposing" other websites to go away. Anything you can do about that?
Bill Cipher was good unless he had more than 2 minutes of screen time then he suddenly turn into shit. Pretty hard to make someone seem mysterious when he is just another stereotypical villain all of the way to the point where he shout out his plans like as if he was a Saturday morning cartoon villain of the week on Power Rangers or something.
Adventure Time was good until they kept on undoing anything that was interesting. How long did Finn went armless? Like 5 episodes max? That should been a whole season thing at the least. Even the Grass Sword went to shit as soon it appear.
Basically don't drop the fucking ball. If you going to do something then fucking do it.
>>79020623 Too much innovation on television and not enough innovation on the web. Look, I get it. You need to eat. But you have downtime. We all have downtime. Where's this generation's Homestar Runner?
Except new artists who aren't total enigmas that don't care about fame have every reason to be scared of trying to make gay characters.
Why? Because making any kind of character that isn't a standard straight white man/woman is a goddamn minefield of opinionated screechers who will claw your fucking face off if one iota of detail isn't to their liking.
If you make a gay character that's a flamboyant, prancing rainbow-emblazoned cock connoisseur/carpet muncher with no other character traits besides being homosexual, you piss off the actual gays who hate getting stereotyped so incorrectly, the same way black people hate white people dressing in all black, putting on big red false lips and talking in a retarded accent.
If you make a gay character that's subtle, which is nearly-impossible to pull off unless you make their sexuality as in-the-background as that of a straight character who isn't sex-obsessed, you get hordes of fat straight college girls from tumblr who've never even met a gay person screaming that you didn't make a "REAL" gay character, while also threatening you, doing their best to spread your personal information online and trying to get you fired from any job you have.
And if you somehow find a midpoint, either both groups will come down on you in rage for "doing it wrong", or no one will notice your comic/story/movie/series/whatever exists because it isn't extreme/controversial enough to garner mass attention.
None of this is all that bad if you're used to places like this and being called every insult and slur under the sun every hour or so, and thus are used to replying to such vitriol with "lol fuck off, my art, I do what I want", but the typical artist has never been hardened to shit-flinging by being in such an environment for even small periods let alone extended periods, and the sudden wave of angry faceless assholes will tear them apart inside and out.
Forgot to contribute my own ideas, to actually be on-topic in here lest the designated shit-scrapers come for my soul:
>interesting morality that isn't just flat "genuine good vs. indisputable evil"
Not necessarily any edgy and overdone shit like "THE BAD GUY WAS GOOD AND GOOD GUYS SCREWED UP, PLOT TWIST", but something where it was more of a neutral "ideology vs. ideology with no concrete morals" thing could be neat.
Maybe follow a stylized version of U.S. politics in terms of basic structure, where both sides think they know what's best and are at odds due to different methods and ideologies, rather than just "YAY I'M GOOD" and "MWAHAHA I'M EVIL".
>female slapstick/expense jokes and female character development that are just as in-depth as male equivalents
It would be amazing to see a cartoon/comic/etc. that actually had female characters take as much shit for the sake of jokes and grow as much as characters as the male ones, a massive break from the usual "no making fun of or hurting women/forcing them to struggle" rule of modern entertainment.
Personally, every obnoxious woman I've ever met in my life was that way because she was coddled into thinking she was a perfect little princess who'd never ever be laughed at or have to improve as a person to succeed in life. Not that your art would rectify that, but it'd be nice to see a positive change that both made sense and infuriated tumblr-browsing, safe space-dwelling fat girls who think they're infallible just because they have a cooch.
>violence depicted in a manner that isn't "OH MY GOD, SO WRONG YOU SICK BASTARD, YOU KILLED A MAN AND NOW YOU'RE EVIL" horseshit
It'd be nice to see actual distinctions made in how violence is used and for what reasons in the story, i.e. having the hero hurting bad people for good reasons not be shat-upon as him going evil/nuts or some other nonsense. Doesn't matter if it's good old fashioned PG K.O. kung fu or plain old guns and blades that kill people.
Oh no, I actually bothered to go in-depth on what I meant rather than just posting two or three lines and/or "moar waifus", since I figured someone actually looking for ideas would like detail to build upon/use in their own shit. Boo-fucking-hoo.
>>79020623 The lack of people willing to strike out on their own and work on independent features instead of corporate work is really a big problem for the art. Really try to emulate Ralph Bakshi as near as you can.
Just do what feels right for you, dude Use your voice and you'll attract people who enjoy what you're dishing out Art is a conversation and in both, you can easily tell when someone is just putting on a facade to appeal to a certain demographic
>>79035680 Have you watched anything that isn't a cartoon? They're definitely over-represented in live-action. The only difference is that we have male gay couples scattered about to try and balance it. Cartoons on
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