The only way shitposting will stop is if they both average the exact same Rotten Tomatoes/Cinemscore score, make the exact same in the domestic and worldwide box office, and if Zack Snyder and Kevin Feige get married with their respective actors, writers, directors and producers as bridesmais and groomsmen.
If they're both great, then each camp will launch into shit talking about which one read better then the other, the printed versions of each well be affected to the point that Juggalo Joker and Harley will be canonized, Friday we be retconned into virtual Pepper, SWORD will be called Hammer now, to reflect the government having bought Hammer industries.
>>79019580 >objective indicators of quality. lol like that's a thing
I mean, I don't think a movie can be "objectively" good or bad, but there are more compelling and profound criteria to rate films on than others.
I find that so many people on this board (and in general) don't rate films on very compelling criteria, but on how closely the film aligns to the very specific vision in there head that they think is the One and Only™ correct version.
Like, sometimes I see reviews of Nolan's Batman stuff that don't talk about anything like the themes or dialogue or character development or cinematography. Instead, it's "NOLAN DID IT WRONG BECAUSE HE MADE GOTHAM A REGULAR CITY AND EVERYBODY KNOWS IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE A GOTHIC CITY LIKE TIM BURTON'S WHY IS NOLAN EMBARRASSED OF COMICS."
As if Nolan thinking that, for his purposes, doing a plausible Batman in a plausible world, and tailoring everything to fit that idea, was a repudiation of ALL OTHER interpretations of Batman, and Nolan's declaration that the creative avenue he chose for his project was the only right one. As if a film can only be a good adaptation if it takes EVERY SINGLE element from the comics that you think is supposed to be there, regardless of whether that makes the specific project at hand cohesive. As if Nolan not using something like the Lazarus Pits made his movie worse, or was any kind of condemnation of the concept of the Lazarus Pits.
>>79019375 We'll still argue over which one was better. Inevitably the arguments will reach the hyperbole of calling the other movie shit, which will cause the anons who rely on /co/ to make up their mind for them to parrot this, eventually leading to the board narrative calling both movies shit
>>79020651 Yeah I don't get OP at all. Two competitive movies can't be good. It's like magnets. If one is slightly better, the other must be shit, by definition. You can't like both things, that's preposterous, this is not reddit.
>>79020710 You can actually measure a movie's quality by how long it takes for /co/ to retroactively hate it all along.
"Captain America: The Winter Soldier" remains high tier, took /co/ two years to hate it all along. "Guardians of the Galaxy" took roughly a year. "The Avengers" took roughly two. "Age of Ultron", "Man of Steel" and the "Amazing Spider-Man" movies were instantaneus. "Iron Man 3", roughly three months. "Thor: The Dark World", two months. "X-Men: First Class", six months. "The Dark Knight", three years. "The Dark Knight Rises", at about 10 months.
It's also starting with "X-Men: Days of Future Past".
>>79020800 When it comes to memes. Marvel just can't compete. The only notable maymays they spawned are whoreposting and "I don't see how that's a party". Meanwhile DC gets atleast 2 solid memes per trailer.
>>79020853 You're absolutely right, I actually started thinking about what /co/ does with bad movies and they just skip the praise it stage, then a year or so later we get shit post threads saying it wasn't that bad
>>79021096 I think what happened with DoFP is that Matthew Vaughn wasn't returning and a lot of the costumes looked awful (especially Quicksilver) so most of /co/ (including myself) wanted it to fail, all of that on top of the Bryan Singer sex scandal
>>79019375 Then we as comics fans win. /co will not agree to this and the heating bickering and shit slinging will continue unabated for a year, all the while being oblivious to the fact that it's a hell of a time to be alive.
I...I just want all companies to have good cape movies. Why is /co/ so damn obsessed with company wars?
Other than AoU and Iron Man 3, I've enjoyed every MCU movie more or less. Thought Nolanbats was good, MoS was ok, most X-Men movies are enjoyable. Only ones I couldn't finish were shit like F4 or ASM2. I can't possibly be the only one who still enjoys most of these movies, right? They're not perfect, but they're still pretty entertaining to see in cinemas.
>>79020664 >As if Nolan thinking that, for his purposes, doing a plausible Batman in a plausible world, and tailoring everything to fit that idea, was a repudiation of ALL OTHER interpretations of Batman, and Nolan's declaration that the creative avenue he chose for his project was the only right one
>>79020885 Does SLUT really count since it was through interviews and the the movie itself? MCU memes are all short lived, while DC has big guy 4 u, CIA, and MAN OF MURDER. I mean shit, with the first SS trailer we got NOW HOL UP, which got threads deleted on /tv/.
I'm a big MCUfag and I enjoyed both Rises and MoS. Hell, I liked them more than some MCU movies like IM 2 and 3, AoU or the Thor movies. I'll give you GL though, that one was awful. Haven't seen Jonah Hex.
>>79021772 AoS's dialogue writing doesn't lend itself a lot to meme's, since it's fairly natural (even if not particularly good, it's not badly worded like TDKR) and not overtly heroic/grandiose like the best parts of the flash.
The closest thing it has to a meme is the razor-nail lady, but that was kind of the point of the character and it never really lasts long because the threads don't either.
>>79022119 I felt that CAFA went off the rails at the montage, and that everything past the blowing up of the Kryptonian warship and World Engine was unnecessary shit that subverted the rest of the film. Fant4stic was genuinely interesting until they returned to the dimension and it became hackneyed EEBUL VILLIN shit.
>>79022374 >>79022323 The point of the final act of Cap wasn't his fight with the red skull, it was the sacrifice of his life with Peggy. Now it was kind of blue-ballsy at the time but that is kind of the point. It is justified within the trilogy and the other movies perfectly as it seems to be what bothers Cap the most and what he needs to deal with. Certainly does not belong next to Hancock and F4. Neither does Man of Steel, honestly.
>>79026233 Marvel movies are really ingratiating, like they're going "Hey you like this right?! Here have some more stuff you like!" I'd rather have Zack Snyder's weird nerd vision than more anodyne crap from Marvel.
>>79026456 It consistently amuses me that the comics end of DC and Marvel have the opposite effect. DC comics are consistently criticized for overly authoritarian editors who churn out the same bland books with the same visual style that reduces the creator's voice and makes each book interchangeable with another. Where as historically in the last 10 years, Marvel has (whether you agree or not) the reputation for being more creatively free with more books with unique visual styles and writers who are more easily able to make their footprint.
But it's the complete opposite on the cinema side of things. You have a dozen movies that are all tonally and visually the same. A dozen movies that despite their far ranging location and cast, have the exact same feel, hit the same major plot beats, and the same themes. Can you even name half of the directors that directed these fucking things? Who the fuck directed Thor 2, I certainly don't know.
Meanwhile there's absolutely no mistaking BvS for anything other than a Snyder film. Suicide Squad isn't out yet, but anyone familiar with Ayer's filmography knows from the get-go that he's involved.
You got it. Variety is the spice of life and DC is seemingly bringing that with their cinematic universe. The MCU is like if all comics company wide were drawn by the same artist. Too samey for my taste. DC is attempting to build a universe of individual artists much like how comics actually are. Will it be great? I dunno but at least they're trying something new.
Marvel movies are getting oooollllldddd (apart from GotG which was somewhat unique in tone).
>>79027503 >>79028390 I think Guardians and the first Captain America films were the only ones that felt actually different from the rest of the MCU. Cap had the 1940's aesthetics, while Guardians was rich with blues, greens and purples that was more colorful than most films these days.
Which is why I'm pretty disappointed in what I seen for Civil War so far because it's more washed out colors, cold interiors we've seen so many times in the MCU. I mean, come on, go to a forest now and then.
both will be fucking dope. based snyder and based russo brothers are the only 2 i trust to make actual cinema worthy cape flicks. everyone elses shit is bubblegum poppp at best. and i enjoy most of it, but nothings as well balanced as TWS or MoS for me personally short of Guardians, which balanced humor and heartfelt moments well in its own right and to be honest Gunns in a league of his own in writing and directing what he likes. Super is a GREAT movie.
>>79019375 >Zack Snyder >ever making a good movie lmao familia, Suicide Squad could be good, but BvS will clearly be awful. I'm blown away that /co/ for the fourth time is being suckered in by his "good initial trailer, horrifically bad feature release" schtick. We literally went through this with MoS, Watchmen, Sucker Punch and to a lesser extent 300.
>>79019375 One is an ideological debate that's been building up for several movies. The other is a slapping match because boys will be boys or some shit, and then a cave troll comes in and evolves into a balrog. And since they gotta catch em all, a hungry skeleton appears.
>>79030906 >One is an ideological debate that's been building up for several movies. Has it? Has MCU Tony Stark ,the man who consistently rebels against "the man" and is generally the worst team player, really been working up to be more pro-government than Captain America who has distrusted the government for a total of one film?
And don't you think the cultural argument of Batman vs. Superman has been building up for decades?
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