So, someone, Millar or Loeb, actually straight-faced suggested this to the Marvel higher-ups?
Jesus christ anon, it's not 1944 anymore. There's nothing weird about it.
It was Millar. Loeb just made it so it wasn't subtle. Then Spencer fetishized it
Millar just hinted at it as a running joke. It was never meant to be a serious or "official" thing.
Then Loeb decided it was for real and ruined everything.
These posters are tumblrfaggots and are being 100% serious.
>Millar heavily implies it
>everyone pretty much kows it's damn obvious
>Loeb confirms it
>everyone gets mad because he removed the mystery of are they or are they not
comic book fans, i swear...
Millar's Ultimates is basically a satire of the Avengers, so he was taking a fan joke about Wanda and Pietro (they're uncomfortably close) and incorporating it into the subtext of the story.
In a weird way Ultimates is to the Avengers what Harvey Birdman: Attorney at Law was to Hanna-Barbera characters.
Loeb decided that the Ultimate universe needed to be less satirical and more EDGY EXTREME, so he made the subtext text.
Also he killed Wanda off because this was the '00s and you weren't allowed to have Wanda in any books anywhere ever.
I mean. Call me fucking insane or what have you, but.
Isn't what happens between two consenting adults their business?
Incest. Sure. It's fine. Why not?
I don't care about procreation, that's not part of my argument. People should be adopting babies anyway, even if they're sure to produce a healthy non-inbred one. We have a population problem.
You pedantic fuck it doesn't take place in the main marvel multiverse nor does it use Marvel owned characters
You knew what i was saying but had to go and make this post. You feel good now? You feel big? Fucking cunt you are. Fuck you.
>Nuh uhr!! You watch yer mouth fella!
>That's not the party line!
>We have you outnumbered!
>Care to resist?
>--WE HAVE YOU OUTNUMBERED
>Y-you want an argument out of us?
>I SAID WE HAVE YOU FUCKING OUTNUMBERED
Just, have an argument.
This is what Galileo dealt with. I'm sure of it.
And no I am not dealing with truths so profound as the movement of celestial bodies. I am saying something basic. Like "What's the big deal. They share a closer genetic code than the rest of us and don't mind it. Where and why will society actually break down and cry because of it?"
After I said what I said about procreation, you have no argument left.
I don't think Millar did anything particularly bad to Wanda, and his Pietro is actually pretty good. I doubt Whedon would have fought to get those two in the MCU if it hadn't been for Ultimates.
Bendis and Loeb, yeah. They were Wanda character assassins.
Came to the competition not willing to compete, you say.
I win the argument by default, you say.
Whatever I say happens to be correct because it goes with no contest, you say.
Well I agree to all of those things you infer. Good on me, then. I'm so fucking rad.
you can't just ignore procreation when making an argument about incest.
That's the same as going "Hitler wasn't bad! Tell me, how bad WAS Hitler? And no, you can't say anything about killing Jews, that's cheating!"
You can't just push aside a crucial detail and pretend it doesnt exist. No matter what you THINK people should do, people are horny bastards, they'll fuck each other either way.
The whole reason incest is illegal and looked down upon is because it fucks with the gene pool, and causes bad traits to be passed down from generation to generation. NATURE ITSELF is telling you its a bad idea.
So no, Cletus, you can't marry your sister, no matter how purdy she is
>you can't just ignore procreation
Yes I can.
I'm against procreation in general with our current population crisis.
I'm more against it when it creates deleterious mutations.
Now, crossing off the idea of it, DO YOU HAVE A FUCKING ARGUMENT LEFT?
If a brother and sister want to fuck, but never intend to have children, do you still have a problem?
If so, list the problem you have other than "Yucky poo I don't like it"
If you'd please.
>M-muh... muh cletus insults thooooo
Take these Disney Dollars elsewhere. They're worthless.
Meh, Thor already re-enacted Wagner's Ring cycle with the brother-sister incest intact.
You know incest is no big deal when the Comics Code Authority passes it.
like I said, it doesn't matter what YOU think about the population crisis is. nobody gives a shit about what YOU think. I actually agree with you, more people should adopt, less kids should be made, but do you think you or I have any sway over whether that happens? no, we're just a pair of ugly faggots on the internet arguing the morality of going balls-deep in your sister.
people are always going to fuck, because people are horny shits. children are always going to be made. no matter how much you try to push contraceptives, pregnancies will always happen, either by accident or by people wanting to expand their family legacies.
but, what am I saying? you aren't going to listen. you're going to plug your ears and sing and ignore the most important fact in the entire debate because you are perfectly okay with a future in which we have the human equivalent of pugs.
>You're not wrong
>In fact, you're right
>But fuck you!!!!!!!!
>I'M A DUMB ANGRY BAG OF SHIT
>I HOLD BACK EVERYONE AROUND ME
>AND I REVEL IN THIS
>I AM A /B/RO
I gotta say, anon. I'm just not very impressed by what you have to tell me.
>our current population crisis
>white liberals don't have kids
>oh no our population is declining wat do
>let's import africa
>now white people are extinct
We should exacerbate Africa's population crisis by sending the white liberals there. Forcibly.
>can defend people sticking dicks in each others asses and people chopping their dicks off but a 5% greater chance of inheriting negative traits is indefensible
Jews are the most inbred people in the world. Clearly because of their incestuous nature, Hitler was doing them a favor by mercy killing them. At least according to anon.
Millar implied it like once and made fun of it then dropped it, even Ellis did a joke about it. Both both times were more like the Ultimates finding Wanda and Pietro creepy because they were really close to each other and seeing how they grew up in secluded places with no one but each other for company they were kind of attached to each other, that's it.
Loeb went full on incest and made everyone uncomfortable.
>No Millar was making a joke,
Look, Millar went and made Ultimate Hank a recurrent wifebeater, I'm pretty sure that he did intend to make Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver incestuous but do it in a subtle way.
The comic this image comes from is Ultimate Fallout and it was written by Nick Spencer & Jonathan Hickman.
pic that I am posting is also from that comic.
It's not so much that I'm appalled by non-reproductive incest (although siblings def weirds me out) as much as I'm struck by absurdity of the conversation at hand, and feel like I could use some time away from 4chan.
Yet here I still am.
Yes. The conversation is absurd.
I've entered the boxing ring. And my last 9 or so opponents have not thrown a single punch. Instead, they've talked mad shit about how I cannot possibly beat them, as they stick to the other side of the ring.
All I want is a final confrontation, and you people find any excuse to run away from one.
These people paid good money for these boxing tickets. Why are you doing this to them?
Remember what happened next?
I could accept the incest. They were villains raised in some backwater european town.
But it really threw me through a loop when they acted as like there was nothing wrong with it
As bright as you are, I'm surprised you missed something basic.
We have a population problem. Obviously, if there babies aren't coming full tilt anymore, we wouldn't be having a population problem. And it'd be fine to have more babies again.
If all parents just had one kid, we'd gradually whittle it down.