Why is she such a cunt all the time?

>>79017368
Because she's latina.

>>79017399
Came here to post this.

>>79017368
Because she's a lesbian

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>>79017368
>muh fictional hugbox

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Because shes a stuck up sassy annoying Latino and she's a lesbian.

Those are like two things you don't want to come across because not only do they eat cunt, they act like a cunt.

I hate how Patriot is ignored in Young Avengers stuff because of her

>>79017399
factually incorrect

>>79017368
it's what the kids like thiese days

>every character needs to have the same personality

>>79017627
I hate how you have no idea what you're talking about

>>79017627
>because of her
How is it her fault?

>>79017368
Vete a comer verga, lesbiana.

>>79017368
Why aren't you? This is 4chan, OP.

>>79017368
'Bitch' is her default personality. The real problem is that every likes her arrogant ass anyway.

>>79017368
Is Young Avengers gud?

>>79017883
Not really. People are real nostalgiafags about it though.

>>79017368
Because her God is literally a lost teenage faggot

>>79017627
How is it because of her? Patriot got blanked by some weird editorial thing. I'm guessing it's another character Brevoort hates or some shit.

>>79017823
>every likes her
Like who?
The biggest compliment she's gotten came from Monica being surprised that she was fast since she knew nothing about her.

Spider-Man is literally every friend you've had that didn't know when to shut up and every other superhero treats him like the second coming.

There's room to write something pretty good about Miss America and how she's essentially slumming it to play hero, because her home universe is a literal utopia. One of the major threads running throughout the Culture sci-fi series is the the central civilization trying to justify or add meaning to their utopian existence, and I feel that's something you could tackle with America Chavez too. I mean in the harshest reading of her motives she's basically just on a "gap yah" to feel good about herself with a bunch of pet primitives.

>>79017983
>Like who?
You know I don't know. Kate I guess. Everyone else just seem to tolerate her not feeling strongly one way or the other. I can just see her annoying the hell out of me personally.

>>79017368
She's a literal special snowflake from the special snowflake dimension. So yea she's obnoxious.

>>79017368
she's a pretty powerful teenager who never really had parental figures and who's never really faced failure

hopefully Monica puts her in her place in Ultimates

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>>79017399
I'm Latina and I don't act like this.

>>79017399
That's latin@ shitlord.

And she's a cunt because she's a cunt. Modern writers seem to equate "strong woman" with "turbo cunt".

>>79018250
L O N D O N
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>>79017983
Every other hero hates spider-man because of how annoying he is, read a comic book.

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>>79018250
You do know how stereotypes work right?

>>79018250
>latina
>not latino
L O N D R E S
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>>79017368
>>79018277
Haven't read any of her stuff. What did she do?

>>79018331
I thought the "brown sassy bitch snarking her way through life" was more a black girl stereotype, not latinas'...?

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She's pretty hot though.

>>79018356
She's unapologetically unfriendly.

>>79017580
You are what you eat, I guess.

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>>79018417
I know what's in those shorts.

>>79018417
In that hate sex sort of way?

>>79018441
I wouldn't hate having sex with her at all.

>>79018417
>Incase
>That bulge
Hot enough that you'd let her fuck you in the ass?
I know I would.

>>79018417
>admiralackbar.jpg

>>79017368
Because her name is ____________

>>79018478
Hell yeah. As long as she gives me a reach around.

>>79018501
Who the fuck doesn't give a reach around?

It's only polite.

Because Marvel can only write female super heroes in three ways.

Kamala - actually good, how did this get past the editors

Squirrel Girl - tumblr

Everyone else - turbo cunt and one step away from being a villain.

>>79018102
Even Kate didn't warm up to her until literally the end of the series.

>>79018250
Latinas are literally the nicest women on the planet in my experience. I had a lot of Hispanic friends growing up and their mothers were always trying to feed me or take me places with the family.

>>79018295
>I don't know the difference between banter and lividity in picture books for children
Autism.
Name 5 heroes that genuinely hate him.
Every team-up with Spider-Man starts with him annoying them and ends with them telling him he's such a great guy.

>>79017662
No, it's fine that she's a raging bitch. I'm just wondering WHY she's such a raging bitch.

>>79017983
I think he means that there's a lot of fans who like her for some reason.

>>79018501
>Wanting her to give you a reacharound
>Not just letting her roughly pound you from behind, just so she can teach you your place
Come on, anon.

>>79018526
I know Falcon doesn't like him

>>79018523
I kek myself again

That's just how latin women are. It's in their genes to be insufferable.

>>79018526
>Name 5 heroes that genuinely hate him.
Hawkeye
Wasp
Falcon
Jonah
A-lot of X-Men

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>>79018589
Nope.
Face it tiger, your husbandu's a Mary Sue.

I will admit that I've never actually seen Peter and Clint reconcile though they're constantly giving each other shit. Even in his issue of Avenging Spider-Man it ends with Peter showing him more compassion than Clint ever did.

>>79018680
Hawkguy is his buddy

>>79018526
pick an X-man not named Bobby Drake or Logan

>>79017368
Cause you are what you eat?

>>79018680
>Name 5 heroes
>Jonah

>>79017883
>Heinberg's original series
Enjoyable but overrated with some dumb stuff in there (MUH RAPE being Kate's backstory).

>Dark Reign mini
Great up until the end when status quo reset happens. Introduces some great characters though.

>Children's Crusade
It's shit.

>Gillen's run
You'll either love it or hate it. Personally I think it's shit and embodies everything wrong with modern "hip" Marvel comics: an over reliance on appearing progressive, characters yammering on in pointlessly "quirky" ways, completely destroying past characterization to pull things out of your ass (both Miss America being a lesbian and Prodigy being bisexual are complete ass pulls), etc.

>>79018779
Jonah's a hero by virtue of getting completely unbiased news out to the masses, he's one of the few that doesn't buckle and cave the instant a "hero" tries to tell him they think he's full of shit.

>>79018680
Hawkeye likes Spidey wtf

>>79018779
>J. Jonah Jameson
>not the greatest hero of them all

>>79018680
>Hawkeye
Harmless banter = hate now?
>Jonah
Not a superhero. Not even a regular hero.
>Falcon
Nope. Falcon's just a straightman, like every hero is any time Spider-Man or Deadpool shows up.
>Wasp
I'm not sure about this, but then again it's Wasp so I doubt anyone knows or cares what her opinion on other people is.
>A-lot of X-Men
None of them hate him.
Jesus, you might as well have said 'Wolverine', you casual.

>>79018680
Most of the X Men hate everybody who is not part of their clique.Besides Wolverine and Ice Man does Spider Man get along with any of the X Men ?

>>79018823
He's not unbiased, he hates heroes for no reason.
>Spider-man saves New York daily
>"He's a menace!"

>>79017368
Because she's a woman.

>>79018863
Rightclops
He's bros with any of the O5 since they all came up around the same time.

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>lady character is a massive cunt
>everyone circlejerks over her
>lady character is polite and respectful and doesn't belittle others to hide her insecurities
>everyone says she's shit

What is it with you fucking virgins and dykes

>>79018908
Beast doesn't like him

>>79018864
He actually is a menace.

>>79018999
How so?

>>79018250
Enseñame tus chichis perra

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>>79018829
>>79018855
>>79018737

>>79018763
>>79018863
X-23, Cable, Hope, Nightcrawler...I mean do the X-Men even qualify as Superheroes anymore anyway?

>>79018855
>None of them hate him.
>Jesus, you might as well have said 'Wolverine', you casual.
Those muties fucking hate everybody. Name an X-Men besides the O5 and Wolverine.

>>79019072
That's what a joke looks like, anon.
>>79019109
>Name an X-Men besides the O5 and Wolverine.
See above you.

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>>79019075
Since when does X-23 like Spider-man

>>79018417
>InGayse

>>79018410
It's both.
They're basically the same thing unless the latina can pass as a white american in which case she acts like one.

I love her. Would I not stand here IRL? Absolutely, but I am not looking for friends when reading a comic, I am looking for interesting characters.

A lot of you discuss her as if she was a real person with personality you like/dislike and not a fictional character.

>>79019565
CHICO BLANCO

>>79019611
but even as a fictional character she's very one-note

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>>79019400
>Since when does X-23 like Spider-man
Since Liu's run.
Isn't that from Marvel Adventures anyway?

>>79019611
>it's okay for a fictional character to be shit because she is fictional

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>>79018417
>tfw i requested this

>>79019693
Ah the ol Peggy hill defense

>>79019653
Maybe, most big 2 characters aren't very complex. MAC's one-note is a very fun note atleast.
I don't typically like female characters, but teenage multiverse traveling space-hipster with thunder thighs is too good to pass up.

>>79017368
There really isn't a clear reason. She was a bitch one time in vengeance along with the latina stereotype, and being a wannabe hero with a bit too much pride which is why she bitched out on she-hulk. Gillen took the bitch moment and ran with it making her a bitch all the time and toned down some of the latina thing because she got reconned out of mexico, He also made her a multiversal hero which explained why she was stuck up. Now Ewing has tripled her stock by making not just normal heroics but beating up horrors from between universes and going near the beyond, so now she is the "experienced" one in a group of veteran heroes and because she is young both in creation and canon age people don't like it. She is hardly the never failed all powerful mary sue people claim, she has lost plenty of times and is usually a "lets just punch it" kind of gal. Has she used any spanglish in Ultimates.

>>79019653
She's the definition of two-note.

>>79019815
>MAC's one-note is a very fun note atleast.
Fun how?

>>79019845
arrogant lesbian?

>>79017368
Because she's objectively just plain better than everyone else. Like, that's her entire thing as a character.

>>79019604
>pass as a white American

You mean is a white American

Passing doesn't exist anymore because it implies skirting around the legal definitions of race due to having physical similarity with one race while legally being another

Race is based on self-identification now, so someone with 20% Amerindian DNA and 80% European DNA isn't going to be told they can't call themselves white and have to go back to the reservation

>>79018501
Casual handy while relaxing on the couch watching Netflix. Glass to blast into. Big ol warm frothy milkshake. I'd pound a mug of her cum.

>>79018250
Amusingly Ayumi was also an unfriendly, unhelpful bitch and her only redeeming quality was her tits

>>79019886
Yep, some a superior people in a superior dimension, because they are all women.

>>79019846
>Fun how?
Conceptually.

>>79017368
I'm surprised we have gone this far in the thread without Baneposting or even an "I'm CIA".

>>79019648
>my post got deleted for some reason

What the fuck

>>79019072
I think this is the last time we saw Clint in his classic costume.

>>79018864
You have to remember, the average Marvel citizen is stupid. Very stupid.

>Someone who was genetically altered as an accident or through weird experimentation?
>They're awesome! Even freaks like Thing!

>Someone who's genetically born with their powers, meaning you're a pitiable, weird demon or blob monster at worst or a gorgeous supermodel person with a cool ability at best
>MUTIES GET OUT! REEEEEEEEEEEE

>>79019998
>Conceptually.
Sure but unfortunately she hasn't actually done anything fun. She's not exiting or interesting, or funny. She's just kind of unfriendly.

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>>79020083
THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT A FILTHY MUTIE WOULD SAY!

>>79020083
I often see people say this, but I've seen a lot more examples of normies in Marvel giving ALL freaks shit for having their fights around regular people. For example people give Avengers shit all the time, same with Spidey, the difference is their story isn't a poor allegory for racism so they just say they were there to help, take it and move on to whatever threat is next for the day, while the X-men spend the next few pages crying about protecting a world that hates and fears them. Marvel citizens hate errybody with powers, muties just have a thinner skin about it.

>>79018102
Girl Hawkeye

You know, at first I thought, hey, she seems like a fun character, but she's never put in the wrong and is never shown to have any conflict other than talking down to people. Say what you will about Superman, but he at least can have his ups and down moments. Chavez is constantly "GRRRRRR" and she's treated as right all the time. She has no conflict!

>>79019724
you couldn't have requested something a little more hardcore?

>>79020251
I suppose you could relate it to construction of identity

Mutants, Inhumans and other groupings which produce superpowered individuals are specific tribal or racial or national groups (depending on how you want to define them) while other superheroes who have origins which are individual and unrelated to things like the terrigen mists or the x-gene don't have an identity which involves a group outside of mainstream humanity

Kind of like when you get retarded white people calling themselves native american saying things like "fucking white people- they killed muh ancestors". They are white, but they construct their identity in such a way which puts native american as their primary racial identity.

In some ways you can relate it to examples that leftists give when trying to define white privilege like "a white guy will just be considered an idiot because he's an idiot when he acts like an idiot, but a black guy will be assumed to be an idiot because he's black". Spiderman is less offended because he knows some people are just dicks, while the X-Men are insulted for being mutants. Even if someone insults spiderman by calling him a mutie he'd just ignore it because he isn't a mutant and thus the insult can't actually apply to him, while the X-Men would get buttmad because they are mutants.

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>>79020168
>Sure but unfortunately she hasn't actually done anything fun.
I agree, but she's still a relatively new character.
And considering the butt-devastation from the first issue of Ultimates that came from just an expository showing of her powers, and is still resonating in this very thread, I doubt doing anything 'fun' would change yours or anyone else's opinion of her that doesn't like her already. In fact, signs point to it making everyone /co/-minded hate her even more.
>She's not exiting or interesting, or funny. She's just kind of unfriendly.
Opinions. Wrong ones.
I find her use of her powers a very fun visual to have. I love the idea of a pretentious superhero teen that's 'too cool' for a costume like everybody else so changes between themed outfits instead. I like that she's essentially a bratty Wonder Woman analogue.

For now I'm having fun reading the character, could change. Or I could be /co/ and blame the writer everytime a character I like does something I don't like and blame the character for being a cunt when I never liked the character to begin with.

>>79020598
>, signs point to it making everyone /co/-minded hate her even more
Probably, I mean nobody got mad about Monica becoming even more OP in the second chapter. I doubt anything she does in the next year or so will change people's opinion.

>>79019400
She saw the spider-butt. It was impossible for her to resist.

>>79018250
>latina
THERE ARE WOMEN IN /CO/? HOW?

>>79020251
Yes/No. That was how things used to be and on a wide narrative scale they were almost equally hated with mutants having a slightly lower position on the totem pole but each generation of writers since claremont consistently has to one up nonmutants in persecution with random retcons or new bullshit facts. (Eg every country on Earth somehow has at one point or another had sentinels) Thanks to the power of bad writing they do have an overblown persecution complex but that doesn't mean the persecution isn't actually there.

>>79020902
/co/ used to practically be a 50/50 gender split.
Not so sure what the ratio is now that it's basically /pol/ for comics.

>>79021018
>Not so sure what the ratio is now that it's basically tumblr for comics.
Fix Ed.

>>79018513
Nice to see anals being polite in their bangings. Common courtesy is a missed art.

>>79018356
She's just a cunt. There's no other way to describe her. She's rude, loud, violent and hot tempered and seems like she'd be a rather unpleasant person overall to be around much less read about.

>>79018936
Dc man. We're talking marvel.

>>79018526
>Latinas are literally the nicest women on the planet in my experience.
Depends. I've known plenty of South American and Central American girls and they were all pretty nice. Same with Dominican girls.

Puerto Rican girls can be cunts though. Puerto Ricans suck. Miss America is probably Puerto Rican.

>>79020545
My point is that a lot of people act like only those born with powers get hated by marvel citizens and people that got their powers through weird accidents or experiments get a pass, but the fact is the average marvel normie is depicted as hating all freaks and the destruction their fighting brings.

The difference is that the X-books are generally focused around it as a major plot point because of "muh people's struggle" while in any non-mutant story it's just a throwaway panel or two that comes up every once in awhile.

>>79021455
>Puerto Ricans suck

I don't know. I've had some good experiences with Puerto Ricans. More than I can say with any Mexican person unfortunately. Agreed on Dominicans though. Those people know how to have a good time.

>>79019938
Probably the worst example you could have given due to issues regarding tribal qualifications for legal and financial benefits.