Die Hard would cap out today under $300m; going by ticket price inflation it would do about the same as by general inflation. It also cost fuck all to make by modern standards, which is partly because audiences demand higher-definition imagery and this pushes up costs all over.
Terminator looks like shit today; it was made on what was a very low budget even then and was a surprise hit. Most hit R-rated movies are a surprise; the vast majority (we're talking dozens to one) are lossmakers that sink without trace. Theater chains won't even keep them in a screen because they make so little. Terminator's "big gross" was only considered a hit because it cost so little to make originally. It would make something like $175m to $186 today depending on whether you went straight inflation or ticket price inflation.
Predator is a similar story, falling about halfway between Die Hard and Terminator in both budget and worldwide gross. Lethal Weapon would cost about $30m to make today - and make around $240m back. It was a big hit for Mel Gibson, who was a cult figure but didn't have wide appeal at that time. The key difference with Gibson and Reynolds of course being that Reynolds doesn't even have a cult following - he's just a pretty boy who inexplicably gets lead roles even after failing again and again.
Rambo wasn't a movie until 2008... First Blood outperformed it significantly in real-terms, but that came during the ascendancy of Stallone's career, when he was already a big star with a successful franchise behind him (Rocky).
The reason those franchises became franchises isn't that they were R-rated - it's that they had a lucky break. There were plenty of R-rated movies that sank without trace from the same era, just as there are today - because people don't go see R-rated in anything like the same numbers.
tl;dr Rob's an idiot
Based Barry Windsor-Smith said
>Rob Liefeld has nothing to offer. It’s as plain as bacon on your plate. He has nothing to offer. He cannot draw. He can’t write. He is a young boy almost, I would expect, whose culture is bubble gum wrappers, Saturday morning cartoons, Marvel Comics; that’s his culture. Somebody was at his house and came back with a report: There is not a single book in his house — only comic books. I see nothing in his work that allows me to even guess that there’s any depth involved in that person that might come to the fore given time
Terminator has struggled for 30 years to explain the time-travel paradox it creates in the first movie, and failed on five occasions. Compared to later movies it looks like ass - and that's compared to T2, which has aged like milk.
Predator is a guy in a rubber suit movie. It's so bad it's good, but it's basically just Commando with a monster. It's bad even compared to Predators.
Lethal Weapon is so bad even Mel Gibson doesn't like it. It's the tropiest troper tropey trope trope.
Die Hard is good if you like strangely camp movies about men wrasslin, but the sequels are a mixed bag at best.
Rambo is just... just don't. You might as well be excited for Leprechaun.
The "Liefeld is nice" meme was debunked back in 2012 when he threw a fit about DC/Snyder and shared Snyder's PMs just to be a dick. Yeah he's polite to fans at cons, that's just common sense.
Will Rob make a Stan Lee-esq cameo in the Deadpool movie?
They should've called it "Killshot Murderverse," and given Killshot two Desert Eagles instead of a shield and put in twice as many lesbians and had Killshot fuck them all like it was No Big D.
surely you don't believe this
don't make me laugh
At least T2 doesn't focus on the time travel paradox and actually gives you a tight story and interesting characters with good performances.
I'm not mad at the concept of pastel colours
I'm mildly upset that everything has pastel colours and nobody tries to be original.
Perhaps if you got your head out of your ass you wouldn't be so defensive?
>Rambo wasn't a movie until 2008...
Maybe there was no movie called just Rambo before then? It was always Rambo : subtitle?
I don't know my rambo-ology, I've only seen the first one... and parts of another as it passed on TV. it was very different from the first.
Hot Shot Part Deux is my favourite Rambo movie
">/pol/" is retard for 'this is a SAFE zone i don't want opinions to ruin my day and make cry'
"Cuck" is 'male somehow more inadequate and dissapointing than me since i'm unathletic, uncultured and not into women anymore'
Waid may be a jerk but he's never shared private correspondence (read down to up).
I think we need to put the age filters back on and as many porn ads as possible
I hold no higher contempt than towards grown up, smelly jerk offs who throw a tantrum when faced with adult content, themes and rethoric, they are backwards in every way. Hiding behind the fantasy of child-like wonder while polluting and gutting the true creativity and passion of others.
>everything that's not a romantic comedy is EDGY
We have to retire this meme, /co/.
The first movie was just called First Blood, The second was First Blood 2 Rambo, and the Third was just Rambo III. Then they made another in 08 called Rambo to fuck up everything.
>Terminator has struggled for 30 years to explain the time-travel paradox it creates in the first movie, and failed on five occasions.
Plot holes are the worst reason to complain about a movie, man.
But this is 80's stuff you turboqueer
Remember when Arnold threw a buzzaw with his hands and decapitated someone? Remember when he punched Bill Paxton's heart out? Remember when Robocop shot someone in the fucking dick?
America needs it's balls back. Violence is part of culture no matter what.
If you don't think Die Hard is a legitimately good film then you have bad taste. Simple as that
Man Rob will die with a smile on his face knowing how his creations have evolved on pretty much all levels..
m8 Rob is notoriously bad at making comics. He's practically famous because of it.
But you can't really hate the guy, he's a massive indie / alternative comics pusher and generally a fun guy to be around, as long as he doesn't pissed off.
>/co/ cucks getting triggered by literal 10/10 movies
And you wonder why the rest of the site hates you so much.
What's the fucking appeal? It's like action movie trying to hard too be a horror movie and failing at both fronts.
The "unstoppable monster who hunts you down" was done before and arguably done better. Hell, Alien which the Predator had shitty crossovers with is what comes to mind at this concept being done right.
>people talking shit about Terminator
Finally I have an excuse to post this.
his hand wasn't human, it only looked human.
they wanted him to look half man, half machine, full badass. michael keaton explained all this stuff in his crazy ass CEO meetings, like the "tactical" black and red pattern over the silver-black one.
this guys saw a golden chance to parody hollywood executives and went balls-deep into it with his character.
I am absolutely certain they wrote and possibly filmed that part of the movie assuming it was supposed to take place in a tropical South American country before a script change placed all the location to still be in/near L.A. and they were all, "eh, fuck it."
I am also certain that this was the correct decision.
>ALL R rated
What a fucking rebel wish I were Rob as a teen and not a nerd hoarded inside my room masturbating to my chinese cartoons.
Fuck that guy, nobody cares and Deadpool isn't a return to that era, quit living in nostalgia Rob.
Wow, America throws the R rating around a lot. A lot of those movies are M rated in Australia, that means kids can rent them from video shops and adult supervision is only advised (not mandatory) for kids under 15.
I mean, fucken Lethal Weapon? It's a comedy. That and Die Hard are almost kid friendly. As long as a kid as been told 'Son, shooting people is bad' they should be ready to watch these movies unsupervised.
> almost kid friendly
> several violent deaths and massice drug use
"shooting people is wrong" is only okay when watching the new pussified pg13 flicks with no blood or foaming mouths at all