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Your Imperial Tax dollars at work - Edition

>New Rebels Clip: (Princess Leia CONFIRMED, New Episode Airs January 20th)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fmPBFBjNHVE

>Upcoming Releases:
http://www.swbooks.net/updates/release-2016.htm

>Star Wars Canon Guide:
http://imgur.com/a/wnoIs

>Download links: (Books, Comics, Rebels, Films, etc)
http://pastebin.com/nWsKtSya

>Newest Rebels Recon Episode:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_JrVry8kgyw

>The Clone Wars Legacy Content:
http://www.starwars.com/tv-shows/the-clone-wars-legacy

>Star Wars: Uprising: (/swr/ Cartel: Loth-Cats)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QpW6fOEvuSg

>Star Wars: Commander: (/swr/ Squad: Empire - SheevSquad)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pUD2JkBxIJo

>Star Wars /co/ Booru:
starwars.booru.org
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Sabine
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>>78982009
Yeah, she's cute.
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>>78982157
I hope when she meets Boba she would give him a Mandalorian driver's license.
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>>78982261
>Mandalorian driver's license.

That sounds dirty.
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>>78982286
I heard it involves the show's creators willingly saying that Boba and Jango are Mandos but that's really dirty and I don't think they'll show it on Disney. Ever.
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Which Sith Lords would be friends if they met? Would Vader and Ren have a Buddy cop feel or would Sheev have tossed him away after a week? Maul and Bane would be the most OP combo in the world if they teamed up.
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>>78982371
>Kylo Ren
>Sith
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>>78982371
Maul and Ren. Snok a shit.
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>>78982399
What exactly is the difference between Sith and a Knight of Ren

What if it's just Kylo's version of the 'No Homers' society?
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>>78982371
>Vader is an angry self-loathing mess
>Meets kid who idolizes him as the best thing ever and acts like him in his younger days

I don't think that ends well
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>>78982371
Palps laughs at Ren while Vader quietly shakes his head.
The First Order is a fanclub, and a terribly incompetent one at that.
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>>78981906
Probably worth adding this to the pastebin
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1yLsvexWBVM8IYSGopKuSfsGk5YIgCwQWd23bqb5ryD4/pub

I only found out about it the other day, prior to this I had to fuck around on torrent sites trying to find the full size .mkvs of the despecialized editions.
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>tfw too poorfag to go to Star Wars Celebration in London
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Do you guys have any fan fiction-esque ideas you'd like to see happen in the new canon?
Here's one of mine. It could happen anywhere, but could work even in rebels
>It turns out as part of his whole cyborgness, Grievous' mind was stored away in a computer
>Somehow his consciousness gets stored into some useless droid (thinking like a gonk droid or protocol droid or something)
>he's really pissed off because he's an actual droid now
>somehow he ends up joining the rebels because he thinks the empire is just the republic
>he gets super pissed when he finds out Kanan and Ezra are jedi

A man can dream. I'd also be happy if we could get Grievous' body to show up in a movie, as either an actual battle droid, or a bartender or waiter using the 4 arms for drinks and stuff.
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>>78982914
Chopper: Origins
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So are we going to see Hera and Sabine get jealous of Leia?
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>>78982598
>tfw got a three day pass
I've never been to a con before, I have no idea if it's gonna be shit but it's star wars and it was fairlly cheap
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>>78982371
>Which Sith Lords would be friends if they met?

None. They all hate eachother. Why do you think the rule of two exists?

Also, why are you counting Kylo? He's nowhere even close to being a Sith.
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>>78982598
I'm waiting until 8PM to get my hands on saturday and sunday tickets, hopefully.
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>>78982460
The Knights of Ren don't use lightsabers, except for Kylo who has one because he admires his grandfather.
Also, they don't believe in a "Rule of Two", so they're probably not as self-destructive as the Sith were.
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>>78983072
>You will never beat people to death with a Spaceball Bat a long time ago in a galaxy far far away.
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Where do I get those green crystal components in Uprising?
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>>78982009
I hate how they changed her hair color. The orange highlights were GOAT.
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>>78983395
rip wade boggs
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Dont pretend like my toon waifu isn't the best original character in the entire franchise, /co/

Just look at the synergy of my autistically color-matched gear from three different gearsets
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>>78983072
I really hope they live up to the hype and don't end up being Phasma tier shit.
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>>78983072
they look so .."Marvel-y"
having a glowing bat just feels like such a superhero thing to do
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>>78982914
Revised careers for the Bounty Hunters. What became of the others (IG-88, Dengar, 4-LOM).

>>78983928
I'm gonna have to check out this game, aren't I? Time to fire up the Bluestacks again...
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>>78984152
Who the fuck cares? Take this to /tv/
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>>78984183
>>78984183
>Who the fuck cares?
The Academy, the critics, the general public.
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>>78984233
In other words, not us. Now talk about something useful: What's your favorite starship?
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>>78984265
B-Wing, followed by the Star Vipers from Shadows of the Empire.
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>>78984265
Clone Z-95 starfighter and the V-19 Torrent starfighter, both from TCW.
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>>78984303
More like TIE Interceptors, followed by B-wings
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My name is Obi-Wan Kenobi. If you are watching this you have been chosen to download my autistic Rule 34 Star Wars porn collection. It's good material. Feel free to share, and may the force be with you.

https://mega.nz/#F!7pYCwawR!RmMsj0fqRrnGzmzNvte1Tw
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>>78984414
Is it 8 gigs worth?
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>>78984303
Pretty respectable. Thoughts on the B-wing from Rebels?

>>78984367
>Clone Z-95
Rebels retrofitted Z-95 is infinitely better

>>78984369
Interceptor is bae
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>>78984369
>Royal Guard TIE

They're trying to be a Char, I see...
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>>78984452
not even half a gig

>>78984414
pretty disappointing Obi
not much and nothing that hasn't been seen many times before
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>>78984452
It's like 20mb, 46 images. Good material.
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>>78984030
Come the fuck on, just know you think this look like Marvel shit? It was always like that
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>>78984414
>It's good material.
Do you got any Kaminoans or is it all just Twi'leks and Togrutas?
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who /celebration/ here?
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>>78984414
> ahsoka only, meh
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>>78983072
Has it actually been stated that aside from kylo they dont use lightsabers?

If so, where? Just curious
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>>78984468
The composite-beam was a bit OP, but nothing I can hold against it in general.
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>>78981906
Now that Star Destroyer is just silly.
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>>78984468
>Thoughts on the B-wing from Rebels?
Watching Kallus get BTFO was a high point, and seeing the B-wing fly and maneuver was fun to watch. The episode was kinda meh with Hera's backstory was rushed a bit, but it was fun.
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>>78984654
Silly star destroyers you say
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>>78984414
If it's not 8 gb in size i'm not interested
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>Poe Comic in April
neat
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>>78984894
Great team too.
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>>78984452
>>78984494
>>78984519
>>78984564
>>78984826
I HAVE FAILED YOU, ANONS.
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>>78984894
will that be the limited after Obi & Ani or the new ongoing after Kanan?
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>>78984894
Another reason to not end my life.
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>>78985003
ongoing apparently
>Oscar Isaac’s Resistance flyboy from Star Wars: The Force Awakens gets his own Marvel Comics series in April with the ongoing Star Wars: Poe Dameron title, written by Charles Soule (Star Wars: Lando) and drawn by Phil Noto (Star Wars: Chewbacca).
http://www.usatoday.com/story/life/movies/2016/01/14/exclusive-star-wars-poe-dameron-comic-book/78800804/
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>>78983395
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>>78985062
>drawn by Phil Noto (Star Wars: Chewbacca).
It's going to be shit
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>>78984894
STAR WARS' AMURO
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>>78985097
>Phil Noto
>shit

You only come to /co/ for this thread, don't you?
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>>78985062
Well damn I was hoping for a ongoing to wrap-up more of TCW stories
Though that one should be neat
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>>78984414
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>>78985097
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>>78985139
Maybe
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>>78984572
He's going off the fact that they all have weapons in that scene and none of them are lightsabers. (I think one guy's stuff is still a mystery)
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>>78985231
It's never been easier to spot the people who don't read comics and don't watch cartoons. Most of them flock to this general.

And you shit it up with your ignorance and stupid opinions. Go back to wherever you came from. Probably /pol/ or something. Either that, or shape up and actual get some comics and cartoons under your belt.
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>>78984654
>>78984654
>Now that Star Destroyer is just silly.
It's like if a Star Destroyer fucked a TIE Interceptor, this ship would be the result of such an un-holy union. Either that or two Sienar and Kuat ideas guys ran into each other and fucked up the scale models they were holding.

>You got your Star Destroyer in my TIE Fighter
>No, you got your TIE Fighter in my Star Destroyer
>...Hmm, it looks pretty cool.
>Are you thinking what I'm thinking?
>And thus the Imperial Raider came to be.
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>>78982371
>Sith
>Friends

You know about that thing they do, right?
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>>78984473
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>Meanwhile, in a /mu/ thread in a galaxy far far away...
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>>78982914
Grievous's body showing up as a deathbot was a literal plot point in Galaxies, I believe.
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>>78985773
>Figrin D'an dies of cancer age 69...
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>>78982914
I would like to see an evil Mon Calamari with a General Grievous robot body.

I would also like to see C3PO and R2-D2, except evil. Oh, and Boba Fett paired with his own evil version of Chewbacca.

It would also be neat to see Darth Vader have a quirky girl sidekick who wears goggles like a Digimon character.

What do you guys think of my fanfic ideas?
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>>78985863
How long until SaloNal Hutta shits out an article on the Holonet about the time Figran had sex with an underage Givin during his Clone Wars tours?
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Is TFA the MGS2 of Star Wars?
>Repeat of the first entry
>Advertised as having a badass soldier MC
>Instead has a feminine protagonist
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>>78986043
>holographic mentor
>lead is named Rey

Almost there. We just needed a scene of Rey sneaking around naked as the day she was born.
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>>78986043
What if I told you Metal Gear Solid was a retread of Metal Gear 2?
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>>78986148
I never played the original Metal Gear games.
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Star Wars General HALP!
I'm making something but I need your guys help. All I need is a reason why Vader would choke one of his stormtroopers. You'll see why later. Stay tuned
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>>78986043
>Yfw SNAAAAAAKE EAAAATEEERRRRR Star Wars movie
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>>78986189
Eh, it's no biggie, I didn't either until recently.
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>>78986193
Failing him in some way. It's not like Vader didn't do it multiple times in the OT.
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>>78986193
they failed a task?
they interrupted him?
they walked by when he was in a bad mood?
literally any reason?
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>>78986220
He never choked a Stormtrooper in the OT
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>>78986193
He was jerking off and asked Vader if he ever choked himself when whacking it.
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>>78986250
He also choked out people that were a lot more important in the grand scheme of things than Stormtroopers. For all we know he could've choked out Stormtroopers for fun in his spare time.
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>>78986193

For farting loud enough that he could hear? I don't think Vader ever needed much of a reason.
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>>78984894
wew
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So what's you Galaxy of Heroes team?

Chewy/Phasma/HK-47/Ahsoka/Talia/Jedi Consular here
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>>78981906
>>78984654
It is a Imperial Raider, It might to be the Empires version of the Corellian Corvette.

It appears in the X-wing and Armada table top games.
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>>78986193
Well in one of the star wars/vader comics I'm sure he kills a stormtrooper because he saw Vader with his mask off
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>>78983969
I really hope they live up to the hype and then get wasted by Luke single handedly.
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>>78986193
'Lord Vader who's that qt in the hologram? Nice ass!'
Vader was watching a Padme holotape.
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>>78986329

Can I pick TR-8R?
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>>78983969
Phasma got two movies to redeem herself. Probably getting revenge on Finn and becoming some sort of Char Aznable to Finn's Amuro.
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>>78986395

ayy
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>>78986329
Bouncing between the makings of a First Order team and a Nightsister team while trying to get Sheev and either Solo or Poe into combat ready status. Currently, my team is Dooku/Luminara/Talia/Ventress/Chewie.

>>78986402
Only if you pretend the FO Stormtrooper is him.
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>mfw Dark Side Jar-Jar actually looks fucking awesome
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>>78986559
I wouldn't mind a sith Gungan, but to make it jar jar would be retarded on all fronts.
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>Oscar Isaac’s Resistance flyboy from Star Wars: The Force Awakens gets his own Marvel Comics series in April with the ongoing Star Wars: Poe Dameron title, written by Charles Soule (Star Wars: Lando) and drawn by Phil Noto (Star Wars: Chewbacca).

http://www.usatoday.com/story/life/movies/2016/01/14/exclusive-star-wars-poe-dameron-comic-book/78800804/
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>>78986329
Currently Phasma/FO Stormie/FO Tie Pilot/Old Daka/Ventress
Might phase out the stormie with Dooku and Ventress possibly depending on how good Luminara is
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>>78986653
Than god.

Ongoing too. Thats pretty awesome.
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>>78986402
No Nines
kinda hope he shows or just a vanilla riot gear stormie, there's only could make an entire team of stunners with him/Dooku/Daka/Ventress/Coruscant Riot Popo
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>>78986653
Will it be a mini-series or a actual ongoing title?
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>>78986656
From what I've been reading, Luminara is one of the top units in the game.

>>78986694
And suddenly I'm having flashbacks to getting my ass beaten again and again by the same guy running that Tusken w' the unpronounceable name. I swear, that thing stuns with every hit.
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>>78986656
I never lose with my team of Luminara and Sheev. Her heal is one of the best, her ability block is perfect for stop stupid attacks as well as that it does a massive damage and her normal attack does pretty good as well
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Why are Stormtroopers so lovable?
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>>78982460
The Sith were an ancient order, with teachings. Which are all now forgotten to history.

Knights of Ren are starting from the ground up or going by what is known to historians, including Kylo who basically glued pieces of lightsabers together and used a broken core to make it look like a picture of an ancient Sith's lightsaber in a book.
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>>78986972
Because Lost Stars taught me that they're just ordinary human beans.
rip jude
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>>78986972
Sexy, stylish space-fascist armor combined with memetic incompetence makes them very sympathetic.
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>>78986007
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>>78986972

Real human beans.
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>>78984265
TIE Defender.
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>>78985832
Yeah, the Necrosis thing. I mean, it's not impossible to put an AI in the body and make it walk again, but you're better off just building a new one after all the internal fire damage Kenobi did to it.
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>>78984560
Not enuff dakka, 0/Ork
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>>78985404
i like the concept of the red sith
being like the people who brought the teachings of sith to the power of the dark jedi
but TOR being all like "nah some human dude is the big boss, despite the big feared concept being called the TRUE SITH"
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>>78987125
this guy gets it
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>>78987193
I'm disapointed Snoke isn't a member of the sith species
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>>78982371
Vader and Zannah would be BFFs.
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>>78987224
I'm disappointed he looks like the Wizard of Middle Earth.
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>>78986329
How is this game
it looks fun and all but im afraid its literally nothing and/or pay2play
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>>78987215
>>78987125
>Just throw some more wings on it: the ship

get out.
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>>78982914

>dark, gritty, masochistic alien with jet-black blood
>comes form somewhere unknown, beyond the galaxy
>humanoid, but bigger and stronger than any human
>cannot be detected through the force
I'm still thinking of a species name; maybe 'Vong' or something.
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>>78987280
You know what'd be cool? Make their leader an idiot and have the court jester be the actual BBEG.
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>>78987267
it's surprisingly good for a F2P game.

you don't need to pay at all, compared to the other two games. you earn resources a lot faster,

it gives you a shit load of stuff right off the bat. after a few weeks, you will unlock enough stuff to get a powerful team going.
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>>78986193
Depends.
He got really emptional and killy in Empire. But in Hope, he lets Stormtroopers fail and even talk back without punishment. Yet in the comics after that, Vader gives a guy a 360 neck adjustment for seeing him with a cracked helmet.

Early in the Empire Vader is still very prone to randomly killing shit. Then in the end of Empire after being rejected by Luke then in Return, it seems his energy is kind of gone and and doesn't give a fuck anymore.

I'd say it depends on era. But stealing or losing your equipment is always good.
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>>78987280
I will never not love Disney for making them fucking things non canon
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>>78987268
>My favorite ship is the Pinook
Duly noted as shit taste.
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>>78986653
POE DAMERON.

Still kind of jipped that they didn't give him a bit of a Latino accent or something

Right now he sounds too much like an overhyped New Yorker or something
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>>78986972
I really loved how menacing they were in TFA, especially during the Jakku massacre. The First Order stormtroopers were the first and only infantry in a Star Wars movie that I could take seriously. Stormtroopers aren't bumbling fools anymore.
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>>78987381
who are you quoting?
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>>78986332
To elaborate on that:
Its also canon. Created by Disney.

Designed to be a hit and run ship to counter Rebel strikes. Has a supersized TIE build basically.

Made because the Empire didn't have a CR-90 sized ship to put in the game.
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>>78986972
Because you know that under their armor they're just regular dudes doing their job, you even see many of them do humorous things in movies that make them human.
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>>78986615
Remember Galactic Battlegrounds?
Gunguns in theory are fucking awesome.

Its just those voices and slapstick movements suck.
But the farmgirl in Clone Wars showed they can be great.
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>>78987263
>Snoke is actually that adorable
I would gladly join the First Order, just to cuddle with him.
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>>78987462
Have you heard about the new B-18s?
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>>78987408
Didn't like them in the Tantive IV boarding action where they curbstomped the rebels?
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>>78983072
>they don't believe in a "Rule of Two", so they're probably not as self-destructive as the Sith were.
>self-destructive
The rule of two is pretty much the only thing that ensured the siths existence until sheev fucked it up
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>>78987268
The fuck do you think the B-Wing is then?

The Defender is the Imperial B-Wing.
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>>78987379
This.
Losing the EU was worth losing the Vong.
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>>78987666

Bullshit Satan, the T/D is much more capable.
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>>78984152
That shouldn't make anyone upset. Fury Road was an awesome movie.
>>78983072
I wonder if they'll all be humans.
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>>78987215
>>78987125
>>78987666
>>78987381
The Defender looks retarded as fuck.
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>>78987689
Yeah, but unfortunately proportionally more expensive.
Still the same design philosophy though.
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>>78987806

PLEASE GO BE QUEER SOMEWHERE ELSE REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>78987806
Still better than Squints though.

TIE Phantom is the Mary Sue of Star Wars ships.
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>>78987576
No, because they were still bumbling around in that sequence. I mean it's an amazing opening sequence, but you can tell that almost no actor took Star Wars seriously, back then.
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>>78987462
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>>78987864
da fook is that
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>>78987864
If you think Interceptors look stupid, how cna you defend the Defenders? Their entire visual design was "Shit how do we make another tie fighter? I know put another Interceptor wing on it!" it is the least inspired thing I can think of.
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>>78987619
Exactly, but the Knights of Ren probably don't backstab each other as much as the Sith did. So they don't need a rule like that.
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>>78987886
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>>78987408
>The First Order stormtroopers were the first and only infantry in a Star Wars movie that I could take seriously.


Nigger what?
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>>78987806
>he thinks the tie defender looks stupid
Let me show you what stupid looks like
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>>78987891
TIE Punisher.

You take a TIE Bomber with tech from TIE Advanced prototypes, load on three more pods so it has the firepower of a Star Destroyer, then send like six of them to wipe out all life on a planet or ensure a capital ship, regardless of shields or speed, is destroyed.

Much cheaper and more stealthy than sending a Star Destroyer.

Basically the TIE equivalent to Cold War nuclear submarines.
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>>78987960
Well, they've only been around for, what? a decade at most, right? I'm sure, given time, the derk side would get them in a backstabbing frenzy.

Until then, I hope we see more of them in the next two movies hanging out and being bros.
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>>78987806
>>78988010

Step it up.
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>>78987937
Squints are just Fighters with different wings. Even in canon.

At least Defenders look like a different ship.
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>>78988014

Let's not make such hasty claims, now.
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>>78988010
showing other retarded designs doesn't make the defender look less like a pile of shit, anon.

It just means that the EU star wars people were literally the dumbest fuckers around and it was Right and Proper that Disney got rid of all of that shit.

>>78988093
Defenders are literally the "Original character do not steal" of TIEs
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>>78987666
The real reason the First Order decided not to reuse the TIE Interceptor design is the damn things kept rolling forward on their wings, like they were saying, "Please, Rebel/Resistance Scum, I'd like it up my rear thermal exhaust port." This is canon. Pablo said so. MSW reported it.
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>>78988008
They were amazing in TCW, but didn't do anything impressive in the prequels. Except for order 66, but that didn't hit me nearly as much as the opening sequence in TFA.
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>>78982371
It wouldn't work too well. And unlike >>78983003 says, the rule of two has nothing to do with it.

Your first instinct might be to say that the Sith would just straight up kill each other, but that's not what their culture is about.

First and foremost, like everyone else stated - the Sith fucking despise each other, but they won't straight up kill, as that would be too easy and unsatisfying.

The Sith only care about one thing, only one simple thing - Power.

Instead, they'd try to break each other, humilaite and overpower each other. The fundamental belief of the Sith is that domination and submission are inevitable in life. The strong thrive, and the weak are their playthings.

From an EU perspective, if you took all the Sith across the entire history of their galaxy and stuck them on a giant, lush planet, then the caste system immediately erects itself (much like the DS users did with the actual native Sith species after the 100 year clusterfuck)

The absolute strongest Sith: Palpatine, Vitiate, Nihilus, etc. would hold all the rest under constant submission and threat of death. All the female Sith would essentially just be fucktoys and trophy items to them unless they're strong enough to fight back.

Their entire society would be based upon the notion that: "I'm STRONG, I'm physically and mentally superior to you in every way and you are NOTHING, less than nothing. You only exist to give me amusement and pleasure"

I'd take a stab at what an entire society of Jedi would be like BOTH Old Jedi and Luke's New Jedi, but I don't think anyone cares.
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>>78988052
We don't know yet. Abrams said that Kylo joined them when he turned to the dark side. He wasn't the founder of the Knights of Ren.
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>>78988156
Actually, TIE Defenders are canon. They showed up in one of the vidya after Disney bought Star Wars.

Also, the OC donut steal ship is literally the Firespray-31. Or the Scimitar.
Both were visually interesting ships that meant nothing except being one of a kind amd owned by a big name.
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>>78988246
>but didn't do anything impressive in the prequels

Rewatch the battle of Utapau. They were doing some pretty cool shit in there. They actually mocaped marines for that shit.
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>>78986329
Chewie/Dooku/Consular/Luminara/Geonosian Soldier
Currently farming for Sheev
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Fuck TIE Fighters.

Republic has best ships.
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>>78988164
Can next thread be "MEANWHILE, ON HOLONET 4chan" edition?
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>>78988335
According to the visual dictionary (page posted last thread if anyone is interested) he earned his name through betraying Luke's Jedi and murdering them.

We were wondering exactly what the heck that meant since he was supposed to be a boy when he betrayed them and his dueling wasn't exactly impressive in TFA beyond just stabbing people standing in front of him. Though he was wounded when he had his first real theatrical duel.
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>>78988164
Were those his exact words?

I really hope so.
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>>78988385
That part where that one clone trooper jumps on top of a droid and murders the hell out of it was the best clone trooper action we saw in the prequels.
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>>78988455
maybe he used poison or a bomb. Maybe the jedi kids werent given lightsabers at all and he came to the school and shot it up with his dad's blaster.
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>>78988312
>And unlike >>78983003 says, the rule of two has nothing to do with it.

Actually, It kinda does. Bane started the rule of two because Sith had a nasty habit for killing eachother. Almost moreso than they did the Jedi. Bane had the old Sith Empire wiped out to eliminate infighting.

Though I agree with pretty much everything else you said.

>I'd take a stab at what an entire society of Jedi would be like BOTH Old Jedi and Luke's New Jedi

We don't know how different Luke's Jedi were assuming they were different at all. Though I'm pretty sure you're talking about old EU Luke's Jedi.
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>>78988542
The guide says that his skill with the saber is what allowed him to kill them.
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>>78988052
>Well, they've only been around for, what? a decade at most, right? I'm sure, given time, the derk side would get them in a backstabbing frenzy.


Not necessarily. The Nightsisters adhered to the dark side and they were pretty loyal to each other. Sith got all backstabbity because of all the groups who gave into the dark side, the Sith were the most immersed in it.
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>>78988164
>This is canon. Pablo said so.
>I thought Paul said this?
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Here's some OC from the Anon who brought you the comic strip about Waifus. Hope you enjoy. Was gonna make an animation with these but I caught the lazy.
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>>78988559
>Though I'm pretty sure you're talking about old EU Luke's Jedi.
I was. The Old and New had very important differences.
>Ages of recruits
>Types of teachers
>Dress Apparel
>Extent of emotion
Plus some other stuff.
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>>78986841
>>78986949
Nabbin' Luminara next then. Sheev's also on there but that'll take a while.
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Okay, Kylo pushed into Rey's mind and basically saw her entire childhood over the course of twenty seconds, right?

Then through willpower she pushed him back, and saw into his mind to see his Sith-wannabe ambitions.

So she then does the mind trick and Force-pulls a lightsaber because she saw part of his training and attempted to do what she'd seen him do, right?
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>>78984152
Not even mad as Max. Fury Road was the best movie of 2015, period.
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>>78988455
>We were wondering exactly what the heck that meant since he was supposed to be a boy when he betrayed them and his dueling wasn't exactly impressive in TFA beyond just stabbing people standing in front of him.

He clearly wasn't just a boy back then. The massacre was probably just 10-15 years ago. And yes, what we saw in the flashback was definitely Luke's Jedi academy getting destroyed by the KoR. The MSW leaks referred to the people at the academy as "Clan" and they were fighting the "Seven" with Luke's lightsaber. That part was probably cut out of the movie or maybe it wasn't even in the final script. But Kylo murdered adult Jedi. The reason why his dueling wasn't that "impressive" in TFA is that he was just toying with Finn and didn't try to kill Rey.
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>>78988385

>storming CIS garrisons on Kashyyyk with heavy armor
Good times.
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>>78988781
Yeah, but its hindered by the fact its Mad Max.
Also, not really interesting if you don't like action movies.
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>>78988790
That scene where he stabs that guy wasn't at the academy.
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>>78988754
Honestly, we don't know. The script doesn't quite explain it either.
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>>78988455
>since he was supposed to be a boy when he betrayed them

I never got that impression. We don't know when precisely he killed them all. I'd take it acceptable if it was like 9-10 years before TFA. He looks about late 20s/pushing 30 to me.
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>>78988653
eh, I've seen it done better.
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>>78988570
oh, well all he fought was kids presumably.

maybe they were all shitty.
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>>78988825
Yes it was. The leaks refer to it as "the academy" and we see Luke at a funeral pyre, directly afterwards.
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>>78987267
It's pay 2 play if you're a retard and would blow craptons on those character packs (upward of fifty dollars)
But you get freebies and crystals easily. This month we're getting Cad Bane. Who doesn't seem as useful as the TIE Pilot from last month desu
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>>78987193
The humans showed up and pushed the Pure's shit in, that's why they run things. Purebloods only get the honor that humans don't talk shit about them like they do "aliens" and that the Empire and its culture has their name on it out of respect.
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>>78988653
i liked this joke better when i reblogged it on tumblr.


The Stormtrooper saying "harder daddy" is funnier.
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>>78984152
George Miller has a lot of friends in Hollywood, so it was expected
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>>78988830
But does that make sense?
Its what I got out of it, but then everyone says her suddenly having Force powers was a plot hole so maybe I'm wrong.

When I was watching I thought it was great, like she turned his mind reading torture into Megaman-ing some of his knowledge.
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>>78988754


Using the force is sort of like a switch you hold down. Kylo Ren warned his men that the longer they took to capture her, the more she would realize how many things he can use the force with to get what she wants. It's not like the games were each force ability has to be unlocked seperateley. You just have to realize the force can be done that way, and everything else is practice+getting over your own mental hangups
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>>78988754
That is most likely. That or she did all that based on the things she'd heard the Jedi could do.
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>>78988823
>Yeah, but its hindered by the fact its Mad Max.

What's wrong with Mad Max? Why are you so mad that George Miller made the superior franchise rebirth?
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>>78988912

Sure, that's possible. But one might as easily assume that she just tried to do what Holonet-/x/ on Holonet-4chan told her that Jedi are capable of doing. Since she's supposed to be a fangirl and all.

The overriding problem was that it felt shit on screen.
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>>78988675
>I was. The Old and New had very important differences.
>>Ages of recruits
>>Types of teachers
>>Dress Apparel
>>Extent of emotion
>Plus some other stuff.

Which one reason why I'm glad about the canon reboot. Between Luke's 'new' Jedi and the prequel era Jedi, I liked the latter and didn't like that Luke's Jedi weren't anything like them. Yeah, I know, the 'new' Jedi came well before the PT Jedi. But I always kept the films stuff over the EU even then.

I just hope what Luke has learned and teaches Rey bears resemblance to the old order and none of this casual 'academy'-esqe nonsense.
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>>78988906
So does JJ Abrams and his Disney masters.

The difference is that George Miller is actually a skilled and creative filmmaker who legit made one of the best films of the year.
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>>78989044
Fury Road > Peanuts Movie > TFA
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>>78988754
The lightsaber was specifically calling to her. It "wanted" to be wielded by Rey, not by Kylo, that's why it came to her instead of Kylo and that's why it showed her the vision and not Finn. It's kinda like space Excalibur.
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>>78989105
But it's a child-slicer.
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>>78988962
>Han to Finn in Maz's bar before she arrives to their table: "So then Luke goes 'You will drop your blaster and unlock this door', and the guy does it!"
>Finn to Han: "That can't be true."
>Rey: "Did he really pull a lightsaber to him from across a canyon?!"
>*Maz arrives, scene begins as it did in the movie*
Did I just fix the biggest plot hole in the movie?
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>>78989087
JJ is a skilled filmmaker too. The opening sequence in TFA was an amazing accomplishment that made us instantly care about the new characters.
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what the hell does this guy have? a paddle?
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>>78989164
Cricket bat.
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>>78989164
A giant cleaver or a buster sword.
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>>78989164
the specialist snowflake
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>>78989200
Too big

Though it totally should be a cricket bat, that spaceball bat is too funny
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>>78988796
i would fucking love to drive one of those
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>>78987458
>Made because the Empire didn't have a CR-90 sized ship to put in the game.

Mostly this

The empire doesn't into intermediate ships, it's either star fighters or Supercarriers/Battleships.

Also the raider is a beast on tabletop, it's basically a giant turbolaser with engines. It has no hanger and instead has a massive generator so it's output is on par with the bigboys, while still being quick an maneuverable. It also has a load out where it has little ordinance and just bristling with quad turrets so it can swat smaller craft like flies as it lights up the sky like a rave party.
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>>78989162
All I got from the first battle is "whoo Battlefront".

Also Von Sydow was wasted
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>>78989044
Some of us grew up watching Mad Max.
The early ones were pretty bad. Interesting as a concept, but bad as movies.
They were the Fast And The Furious or Bayformers of their time.

So its hard to look past what you remember to see the new thing when all you really are thinking is "I could be warching something that isn't Mad Max right now".
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>>78989162
>The opening sequence in TFA was an amazing accomplishment that made us instantly care about the new characters.


Except it wasn't and it didn't.
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>>78988312
>All the female Sith would essentially just be fucktoys and trophy items to them unless they're strong enough to fight back.

Sounds like heaven.

Not for them at least, but damn.
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>>78989252
Spacecricket Bat.
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>>78988470
Well he may have also mumbled something about how it was making the AT-AT's nervous and the AT-ST's blush.
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>>78989082
They were casual but were still pretty fucking competent.
>They defeated the Yuuzhan Vong - Plot convenient monsters
>They beat Exar Kun's spirit on Yavin 4
>Abeloth
>bunch of other shit.

Besides, the whole point of the New Jedi Order was that they remedied the greatest "mistake" in the galaxy. The Old Jedi set themselves up to fall, one of the better ideas Lucas had for the Prequels.

As much as everyone hates Lucas's "poetry", the Prequels showed that the pressures of Anakin's live (Slavery, Death of Mother, etc.) were compounded on by his life as a Jedi.

The point was to show that the old Archaic Jedi Order brought Anakin to a breaking point, and he didn't have the unique perspectives that Luke did to guide him.

Anakin was expected to conform and perform within expectations even with the personal traumas around him.

Luke got a fresh perspective on the Force from Obi-Wan and Yoda, and was essentially told to embrace it, as well as his own feelings (unlike Anakin).

So yeah, the Old Jedi were getting stagnant and complacent in their own dogma to the point where they were internally sabotaged by one of their own (Vader) and destroyed by someone they were blinded to (Palpatine)
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>>78989154
It didn't show her happy memories.
Its like its seen so much shit now, it has become a weapon version of the Cave.

Plus, who knows, maybe sitting on Bespin's horribly toxic surface for who knows how long causes LSD hallucinations where someone is more perceptive of the Force now.
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>>78989162
>JJ is a skilled filmmaker too.

He's a creatively bankrupt rip-off artist. He's about as 'paint by numbers' as you can get in terms of filmmaking.

>an amazing accomplishment made us instantly care about the new characters.

The fuck are you talking about?
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>>78989254

Just make sure you have 11 more people with you.
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>>78989273
0/10
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>>78988542
It's possible that Luke didn't even train his order in combat. He may have imagined them being raised in peace, as teachers and guides rather than warriors. At any rate Luke wouldn't have had much time to establish and train anyone.

Hopefully next time his first lesson is on sensing when they are about to be attacked by genocidal assholes again.
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Someone post all the shitty movies of the past that have won that award.
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>>78989343
Okay, 93% and almost every critic are disagreeing with you, but you are entitled to your opinion, anon.
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>>78988867
>The leaks
It turned out that MSW wasn't 100% accurate on all things, anon.

The "boy" comes from two things. Han Solo refers to a boy who betrayed the Order and the script mentions that Starkiller Base was the first time he saw his son as a man implying they lost Ben when he was young or that they never bothered to holoskype him, not even on his life day.
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>>78989324
>it was making the AT-AT's nervous and the AT-ST's blush.
...Go on.
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>>78988638
Well, in the Nightsisters defense, they have plenty of slaveboys to take out all their aggression on. Plus their planet is just a shitty briar patch with little in the way of interstellar transportation, so it's not like they have any big ambitions to compete for.
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>>78989343
Mission Impossible 3, Star Trek 09 and TFA were all pretty good films. Get rekt nerd.
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>>78988754
Assuming she felt what it was like for him to enter her mind, and still fresh in her mind how she pushed back, it's possible for her to at least try to establish her own link to another person's mind. Took her several tries and it's always possible that Daniel Craigtrooper is exceptionally weak willed.
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>>78989335
>>They defeated the Yuuzhan Vong - Plot convenient monsters
>>Abeloth

If people consider the Vong to be the worst thing in the EU, I think that title definitely goes to Abeloth.
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>>78989498
Ask and ye shall receive.
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>>78989433
Most critics had the same thing to say about the film: "It feels like a Star Wars movie"

Which is a pretty fucking empty thing to say. It doesn't really mean anything and mostly just shows us that the critics took the nostalgia bait.
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>>78989376
Rey: Aren't you going to show me any fighting techniques, lightsaber combat to learn to fight Kylo Ren?
Luke: I don't really know any. Feel the Force, let it guide your actions and swing like a drunk lumberjack on Kashyyk, that's all I can teach you.
Rey: Then how did you beat Darth Vader?
Luke: Oh, I turned my lightsaber off and told him he's better than that. Worth a shot, right?
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>>78989504
>Star Trek 09
>Good

That's a joke I forgot to laugh at.
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>>78989462
He actually was 100% correct. Scenes like the floating lightsaber, Maz using force powers or Kylo in the Millenium Falcon were just cut out of the movie.

"Boy" doesn't have to mean 10 year old. I guess he was a teenager, around 16-20. A father would still call him boy.
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>>78989547
Good god Anon, this is a Jedi academy image board!
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>>78989572
>"It feels like a Star Wars movie"
Well it should, right? I mean it was a clone of ANH.
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>>78989572
That's wrong, but you're clearly ignorant and don't care about actual facts.
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>>78989504
>Star Trek 09 and TFA were all pretty good films

Patrician tastes there, friend.
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i've been skipping around the clone wars episodes watching most of the clone trooper heavy ones and stuff but im interested in asajj ventress. what are some good episodes with her? I lost the clone wars infographic

Does sidious ever find out Dooku is training her?
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>>78989632
Just go through the archive for the past four weeks and you'll eventually find the thread where people went through the "leaks" for the ones that were completely wrong. No, all of MSWs reports weren't 100% accurate.
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>>78989504
>JJ "You have to backward before you go forward" Abrams
>making good films with his own artistic vision
>not just ripping off Spielberg and whoever else the corporate masters tell him to

He's a decent enough mimic, but he's not really an artist. You'll never watch a JJ Abrams film and know it's a JJ Abrams film without someone telling you.
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>>78989666
>tfw the only people that hated both reboots are raging autists

Critics >>> you
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Daily Reminder that there's no reason for you to fall to the Dark Side if you ever get force powers.

>Potentially shitty appearance
>Bad Health
>Muh Power
>Muh Imposing Figure

All you could really get are those cool Amber or Red Eyes but Disney probably retconned that. You'll just be a power hungry dick with anger issues that nobody wants to be around.

Don't even go Light Side either, if you wanted the Dark Side for Flashy Powers, you'll be disappointed. I mean, who gives a shit about healing, regeneration, enhanced mental functions and peace of mind?

Just stay Neutral and constantly play around with stuff via Telekinesis.


Like your Dick.
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>>78985327
>Liking Soule
>Thinking that's not a stupid opinion
lol
Noto is great though, so I'll just skim read.
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>>78989659
Yeah, but entertaining.
Better to see a reboot of something only done once before than the same formula in every fucking movie other than that.

I swear, if I hear the fucking Inception noise in a trailer it gets -10 on its final score when I see it.

Look at all the praise The Martian is getting when its a formulaic part of a genre that's existed since the 1950's.
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>>78989754
>film is criticized for being a rip off of ANH
>filmmaker actually responds with "It was obviously a wildly intentional thing that we go backwards, in some ways, to go forwards"

Yeah, it made a billion dollars, but those are not the words of a man with confidence in the film he made. You can pretty much tell he wasn't allowed to make the story he wanted to make.
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>>78989825
I have too many negative emotions though.

if i can harness my self hatred for superpowers like vader did, then i'd do it in a heartbeat.
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>>78989810
>Critics like shitty reboots and I can't think for myself.
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>>78989825
>I mean, who gives a shit about healing, regeneration, enhanced mental functions and peace of mind?

Uhhh
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>>78989849
Just having negative emotions doesn't mean you're instantly corrupted though. Being willing to use your powers to act on those emotions is what makes people fall I think
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>>78989849
Why Anon? Your lust for power would only increase. Yeah, you get phenomenal space magic powers, but your body slowly damages itself if you go too far.

People will be terrified of you and want to put you down like a rabbid dog. Why would you even need the Force?

All power ever brings is corruption.

I'm totally not a hypocrite, help me destroy the Force.
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>>78989572
>"Packed with action and populated by both familiar faces and fresh blood, The Force Awakens successfully recalls the series' former glory while injecting it with renewed energy."
>On Cinemascore, audiences gave the film an average grade of "A" on an A+ to F scale; women, under-25s and under-18s gave it an "A+", while 98% of audiences gave it an "A" or "B".
>Robbie Collin of The Daily Telegraph gave The Force Awakens five stars out of five and wrote that it "sets out to shake Star Wars from its slumber, and reconnect the series with its much-pined-for past. That it achieves this both immediately and joyously is perhaps the single greatest relief of the movie-going year.
>Variety's Justin Chang wrote that the film has "sufficient style, momentum, love and care to prove irresistible to any who have ever considered themselves fans."
>Richard Roeper of the Chicago Sun-Times gave the film four stars out of four, describing it as "a beautiful, thrilling, joyous, surprising and heart-thumping adventure."
>Ann Hornaday, writing for The Washington Post, thought the film had "enough novelty to create yet another cohort of die-hard fans ... The Force Awakens strikes all the right chords, emotional and narrative, to feel both familiar and exhilaratingly new."
>Mick LaSalle of the San Francisco Chronicle gave the film his highest rating and called it "the best Star Wars sequel yet and one of the best films of 2015."

And even the more critical reviewers called Abrams a highly skilled director:

>Reviewing for Forbes, Scott Mendelson cited the film's "top-tier production values and a strong sense of scale and scope", but felt it was so much "an exercise in fan service [that] it is only due to the charisma and talent of our newbies and J. J. Abrams' undeniable skill as a visual storyteller that the Mad Libs narrative doesn't outright destroy the picture."

But keep memeing that TFA isn't a great movie, you mouthbreathing retard.
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>>78989889
>im an edgy contrarian

armond white fuck off
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>>78988069
>making fun of mai waifu

Raptor is Kawaii as fuck.
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>>78989335
>The point was to show that the old Archaic Jedi Order brought Anakin to a breaking point

I more thought it was Palpatine's goading Anakin's pride and preying on his insecurities that did that. If he wasn't singled out by the master Sheevster, he'd have been fine.

>Luke got a fresh perspective on the Force from Obi-Wan and Yoda

He got maybe a few good hours with Kenobi, researched old Jedi manuscripts and had on/off sessions with Yoda, who seemingly only taught him the very bare basics. So I wouldn't exactly call it fresh unless you're referring to all the stuff they didn't get a chance to teach him.


At the end of the day, I don't see much of a problem with how the old Jedi order and code was. It worked pretty successfully for probably millions of Jedi for centuries. They just got stuck in something that was designed to make them fall and their star pupil got Sheeved.

... which could also be said of the Luke's new canon Jedi.
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>>78989951
>six o'clock rolls around and the thread fills up with shit posting
So wait, do Star Wars autists actually have jobs and have to hold off their shitposting until they get home?
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>>78989889
There's nothing wrong with reboots. It just has to be a GOOD reboot.

Pic related.
>higher RT + MC score than TFA
>2 Golden Globe noms
>10 Oscar noms
>higher audience approval
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>>78989951
J.J Defense Force please go.
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Report all non-Star Wars shit for being off-topic, and discuss the only thing that matters in any franchise worth talking about; lore and canon.
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>>78989987
Possibly. Last thread certainly got quite during US nightshift. Made me think maybe the TFA hype train had finally slowed and threads would go back to normal.
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>>78989999
I thought TFA was a pretty good reboot if we're strictly talking about Star Wars movies
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>>78989981
So what you're telling me is that the Jedi and Sith are ruining the galaxy with their constant dick-measuring contests across the galaxy.
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>>78989999
Fury Road is amazing but that doesnt mean TFA was bad.

Most action films, even the really good ones, would fail to measure up to Fury Road. Its not a fair metric.
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>>78989999
It IS a good reboot. Not as good as Mad Max, but still very good.
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>>78989999
But its Mad Max, the Fast And The Furious of the 80's.

If they make a "good" Fast And The Furious in twenty to thirty years it'll still be shit because its Fast And The Furious.

Star Wars by contrast can actually be good.
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>>78990036
>canon

Well, fuck you too.

All joking aside, any of the canon books worth reading?
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>>78990062
>Fury Road is amazing but that doesnt mean TFA was bad.

No one said that. Just that Fury Road is better than TFA. Fury Road didn't cause it. Well, I guess it did by being amazing.
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>>78990068
>It IS a good reboot.

Eh, I disagree.

>>78990099
What's wrong with Fast and the Furious? They're mostly pretty good. And are you equating the two because they both have cars? Because that's fucking stupid of you.
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>>78990109
Lost Stars is 10/10.
The books for indicidual characters are good.

Aftermath is shit tier, but sadly has the most new lore.
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>>78990113
You implied that JJ isn't a skilled director which is just wrong, no matter if you like him or not.
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>>78990036
how did the star destroyer autists take the EU getting rekt and the release of TFA.

venturing in those waters to find out for myself is a terrifying thought.
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>>78990171
But he isn't. Ask anyone who actually knows anything about film.
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>>78990099
Fast and the Furious has been good since fast five.

fuck you.
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>>78989516
Honestly it felt like at the end he didn't give a fuck. Hell how he said "and I'll drop my weapon" sounded less like mind trick and more like I don't get paid enough for this shit.
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>>78990036
YEAH FUCK THE EU

CANON ONLY ZONE! WE RULE NOW MOTHERFUCKERS

REPORT ALL EUFAGGOTS
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>>78990193
Very badly, but then the prospect of new things made them hush mostly.

Helps those who don't care and see a second timeline as being okay reminded them constantly of the worst in the EU.

Then there's the guro fetishist Mandofag though...
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>>78990056

No, just the Sith. According to Lucas, the Jedi's approach to the force is the RIGHT way.

I know to most that probably means less than shit since Lucas has no say in the matter now. But it's worth alot to me.
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>>78990224
See >>78989950

Oh, and TFA was nominated for Best Editing which is the most important "technical" oscar and indicative of it's high quality.
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>>78990261
That's A canon.

Not the main canon, but canon in the sense it has its own continuity.
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>>78988754
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>>78989825
Say fuck it a wield both sides. Take all fear turn it into hated. Use extreme focus brought on the the light side. Suddenly I am able to control force lighting and harden it into a blade of pure force. Never need a saber again.
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>>78990328
an alternate universe.

>yfw rey hops universes in EPVIII and meets Mara Jade.
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>>78989743
>Does sidious ever find out Dooku is training her?
Yes, and he ordered Dooku to kill her because she was getting too powerful.
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>>78990395
If Rey was JUST one of Luke's Jedi Trainees and NOT related to him, Leia, or Han, then that would be amazing.

Kylo "Jacen" Ren I can understand, for "drama". But leave Rey, Poe and Finn as relative unknowns in this series.

I pray that the writers for VIII and IX don't fuck it up.

Either that or Rey somehow being seduced to the Dark Side - I wouldn't know how to feel about that. It could work, but only one Kylo is dead and buried.
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>>78990535
I still want her to be a kenobi, but having her be a random babby force sensitive that survived the ren attack would be fine.
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>>78989981
>singled out by the master Sheevster,
seems more like he was just rolling with the punches, he had high hopes for maul
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>>78990587
But Why My Friend?

Why does everyone have to be related? I understand the whole Kenobi vs Skywalker thing but still, it feels like a cop out with writers.

Plus, the idea that Rey, a simple nobody, was able to embrace the Force and defeat a DS trainee speaks volumes, as opposed to "I'm really strong because my Dad was strong too!"

Same with Finn. He didn't have a chance in hell against Kylo but he swallowed up his fear and did his best to hold off Kylo. Poe gets a slight pass because he's a trained pilot, like his parents, but not the Chosen One.
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>>78990587
Kylo's attack was actually her fault snapping the necks of other force trainees in Luke's Jedi class. It was blame on kylo because he was angry and emotional at the time. She "survived" his slaughter and had her mind erased of all events before that.
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>>78981906
They never banged :(
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>>78990535
Who drew this?
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>>78990805
So what?
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>>78990535
Yeah, having two Skywalkers running around would be too much and would mean a death sentence for Kylo. I want more of him for Reylo.
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>>78990805
>implying vader cant still fuck her with a robot dick.
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>>78990733
>Plus, the idea that Rey, a simple nobody, was able to embrace the Force
does no one else read the title of the film?
"the force awakens", we could see a full on republic here.

old republic mode on, snoke has secretly been building a mandalorian army.
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>>78990733
>Why does everyone have to be related?
Because it's a story focused on one family in particular: the Skywalkers. In fact the various trilogies are all about the next generation of Skywalker protagonists. Anakin in the Prequels, Luke (and, to a lesser extent as far as the whole Jedi thing goes, Leia) and now Ben and...Rey? Maybe.

There's also their love of poetry in these movies which tends a bit towards repetition. Obi-Wan trained two Skywalkers, there would be poetry in the sequel trilogy having a Skywalker (trained by a Kenobi) training another Kenobi. But that's just a possibility.
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>>78990805
Do you guys honestly think Vader would brainwash Ahsoka into his slave/wife/fucktoy just to ease the pain of loosing Padme?

Because I thought that was a given.
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>>78990939
>"the force awakens"
A title misread could have been.
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>>78990733
This.

I really hope Rey is connected to a new character, like Poe being part of the Rebels via OC parents.

Also worth mentioning to her X-Wings are important.
In the book she has an X-Wing flight simulator to play for recreation which is hiw she learned to fly, she put on an X-Wing pilot helmet to comfort herself when feeling without hope, and she has a doll in her house that looks like a handmade X-Wing pilot.

I'd prefer her being Wedge's daughter to a Solo, Skywalker, or Kenobi.
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>there are people who believe Rey slaughtered Luke's students and framed Kylo
lmao
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>>78990990
>Do you guys honestly think Vader would brainwash Ahsoka into his slave/wife/fucktoy just to ease the pain of loosing Padme?
That's exactly what he's going to do, it's revenge for leaving him.
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>>78991056
Obviously she did, anon. That's why she was grounded to Jakku without any desert.
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>>78991056
Is there a shot of the ship taking off? Everyone says its First Order.
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>>78991056
well she definetly wasnt left on jakku by someone loving
looks more like being sold
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>>78991087
>No dessert
>Sent to a desert planet

How deliciously ironic!
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>>78991056
>there are people who buy Rey's innocent facade
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>>78991050
>Finn Becomes a cool Mandalorian
>Rey becomes a powerful Jedi Knight
>Poe becomes a Resistance/Republic Commander and leader of Air Force.
>Kylo becomes a True Sith Lord
>Luke does a thing
>Phasma becomes competent
>Hux goes full Hitler
>Snoke also does a thing

I NEED THIS NOW.
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>>78989825
I suggest looking up gray jedi.
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>>78988754
Something in the book says when Kylo does the probe he breaks a wall or something.

Basically she had training, but was then mindblocked/mindwiped when the jedi academy was attacked and sent off for hiding.
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>Do you guys honestly think Vader would brainwash Ahsoka into his slave/wife/fucktoy just to ease the pain of loosing Padme?

"What is it, Lord Vader?"
"M-M-muh-Master, I did it again!"
"Oh dammit, Anakin, what did I tell you about your pets?"
"B-but Ahsoka mentioned Padme and...I stabbed her. Twenty-seven times. Right in the orange cheeks."
"Yes, and before that you Force choked Jar Jar for leaving a bombad on the carpet. Another time you forgot to feed Barriss. Took forever to get her to flush too."
"C-can I-"
"NO MORE PETS!"
"This is so unwizard! Master Yoda would let me have another one!"
"Yeah well maybe I should have taken a wrinkled green tip and told you not to get attached to any of them! ... Fine. I might have Chuchi left in carbon freeze."
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sheev's wars in quick succession kind of killed every jedi and sith in the galexy.

its only natural that leaves a massive power vacuum so to speak for new force sensitive people be born
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>>78982464
Probably not. Vader had it under control though. Once he owned the fact that HE was responsible for what had happened to him (the big NOOOOOOOOOO) he became incredibly focused. He never actually lost control in the original trilogy. There were no temper tantrums from Vader.
>choked rebels officer and tossed him
Yeah, he was pissed, but that was mostly theatrics for his men. He likely had mind probed the guy for information, which confirmed the plans were on the ship and one of the passengers had them.
>forced choked Admiral Motti "I find your lack of faith disturbing"
Dude was dissing Vader. He couldn't let that pass. And he let him go without killing him when Tarkin told him to because he'd made his point.
>forced choked Admiral Ozzel
Oh boy. "You have failed me for the last time, admiral" if you go back and watch the opening minutes of New Hope, Vader's officers question him several times. He doesn't flip out and murder them because these are guys who have been working with him for a decade or more. He trusts their abilities and judgement, so when they ask what he's doing, he tells them so they're on the same page, or even changes his plans based on their advise. Problem is, all those guys died on the Death Star and Vader is stuck with a bunch of incompetent ass kissers in Empire Strikes Back. From Vader's line, this isn't the first time Ozzel has screwed the pooch, and Vader has had enough. Instead of dropping out of light speed out side of Rebel sensor range and sending in a commando team to blow the shield generator, Vader has to mount a full assault that costs the Empire at least two Walkers, an unknown number of men and possibly a Star Destroyer over Hoth. So he kills him and promotes Piett, which is actually competent.
>kills Captain Needa
And sounds genuinely amused while he does it. Needa could have sent a transmission that he lost the Falcon, but Needs made a big show of flying to Vader's flagship to kiss ass.
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>>78986213
>Not SNOKE EATER
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>>78991306
There's always been Force sensitives.
But unless they get training they may at best have good reflexes.

Unlike Harry Potter wizards who can accidently turn a housecat into a toaster by giggling at the age of ten, the Force seems to be something you either have to chance on and discover or be taught how to feel it. Which is exactly what Obi-wan taught Luke.

Which is Luke's strength. He spent so long only being able to do one thing that he became one of the best ever at it, and used it to compensate for the fact nobody showed him anything else.
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>>78990036
mandalore the ultimate wants you to oppose people like this, dont suck on a bag of dicks and post at the same time.
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>Season Finale of Rebels has Vader Capture Ahsoka
>He breaks her down mentally and turns her to the Dark Side
>They Kill Not-Kyle Katarn leaving Ezra feeling like shit.
>Vader is still sexually impotent and unable to get the robo-dick up.
>He can't even kiss her because Muh Mask.
>Vader gets butthurt and maims Ahsoka as a result.
>Rebuilds her to be a cool evil Cyborg like him.
>Pic Related
>Now they're both evil robo cyborgs that have specific parts for fucking.
>They get married as evil robo cyborgs, naturally Palpatine gives Vader away at the wedding while laughing maniacally at his luck - TWO Cyborg Apprentices.
>They regularly have sex between conquests of planets.
>They also both have cool voice synthesizers - Ahsoka's new voice makes muh dick diamonds.
>They live happily ever after until the Canon Novel/Comic which shows her death at the hands of Rebel fighters to maintain continuity.
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>>78991306
>for new force sensitive people be born
They were being born anyway, Sheev's machinations just destroyed two specific cults. Technically three with the Nightsisters apparently gone, or at least nothing said about any surviving.

Curiously the Cosmic Force actually took a nap when Luke lost his Order and decided to fuck off into space. It only woke up again when Rey found the sword. That was the real awakening, not necessarily her but the whole Force had a reaction. Waiting for it's new chosen champion to do shit. Which she kept refusing to do until Finn was nearly killed.
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>>78991172
>I NEED THIS NOW.

>Finn Becomes a cool Mandalorian
>Kylo becomes a True Sith Lord

You don't need these. Especially the second one.
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>>78983072
What's with the fucking buster sword?
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>>78990805
>Banging your daughterfu
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>>78991555
>Not wanting the first Black Mandalorian
>Not wanting Kylo Ren to become a Sith w/ Character Development.
It's like you hate fun, my friend.
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Uh
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>>78991660
Oh.
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>>78991660
>>78991680
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>>78991653
The Sith are dead.
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>>78991767
>>78991700
>>78991680
>>78991660
>Thinking this is the extent of Star War's pottery.

>Not realizing the full scope of Lucas's grand design.

Plebs, all of you.
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>>78991813
I'm fully aware of his master of poetry, anon

It's just that I didn't actually think to put >>78991660 and >>78991680 together
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>>78991702
They will rise again.
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>>78991653
>Not wanting the first Black Mandalorian

If it's established that he's from mandalore, then I'll let it pass. But otherwise, let them bring in Mandalorians as a group into the resistance.

>>Not wanting Kylo Ren to become a Sith w/ Character Development.

Like >>78991702 said, the Sith are gone. To bring them back would contradict the a large chunk of the story the past six movies told. There are other ways to develop him without having to shit on the previous two trilogies.
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>>78991957
but muh sith
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>>78991813

>not realizing that the ultimate pottery is that in both shots, the person won... who did not have the high ground
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>>78992000

Are dead. The prophecy of Anakin Skywalker was fulfilled. He destroyed the Sith forever and brought balance to the force.
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>>78992003
We've been over this anon.
The High-ground is a state of mind, a state of being.

Obi-Wan learned his lesson well from Jango, ever since they he always had the high ground.
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>>78991957
>There are other ways to develop him without having to shit on the previous two trilogies.
Fucking how?

He's a clumsy excuse for a Force User that lost to an untrained girl and a former Trooper. His "master" says he's not done with his training, but Kylo doesn't act as impressive as any other Dark Siders we've seen.

Plus there's no way to even slightly redeem him because that would be the dumbest shit ever, and no one would accept it if he did genuinely want to change.

What the fuck is so special about the "Knights of Ren" anyway? They look like a bunch of rejects and I doubt that they're as much of a threat as the Sith were. Kylo's probably the only one who has a saber or Force Powers.

This new trilogy is shaping up to be complete shit in the "villain" department.
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>>78991957
>To bring them back would contradict the a large chunk of the story the past six movies told.
And a darksider who existed at the same time as Palps, is older than Palps and miraculously surfaced after his death doesn't contradict the story?
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>>78992042
You ever stop to wonder if the franchise would have been better off without the whole prophecy bullshit? Would Anakin have turned out to be such a fucking disappointment to everyone if there'd never been any kind of bullshit like that?
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>>78992083
2.3/10
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>>78992107
No?
Star Wars has always been about Anakin fulfilling the prophecy.
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>>78992083
Fuck off
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>>78992107
the prophecy could've also be misread and Rey could be the real Chosen One this time
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>>78992167
Great discussion.
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>>78992105
No, because the galaxy is huge and even the old Empire didn't explore the unknown regions.
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>>78992161
It is in the context of the prequels

In soley the context of the original films it is about the Rise of Luke
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>>78992176
I mean, if they want to contradict the very words of Lucas, sure, they could try that.
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>>78992161
>Always
I don't recall Obi-Wan talking about Anakin being a virgin birthed force baby or anything like that in ANH.
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>>78992110
The Knights of Ren sound underwhelming as hell. I get the whole "new enemy" thing, but Kylo alone was laughable as a villain (maybe that was the whole point)

If he's their leader, then the rest will be utter shit.

Essentially >>78992190
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>>78992190
You don't want a genuine discussion. You are just trying to hate for no reason.
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>>78992225
Snoke says that Kylo is "The last of the Knights of Ren" iirc.
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>>78982371
Maul and Talon

They're Lucas approved
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>>78992250
He says master, not last.
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>>78992042
>He destroyed the Sith forever and brought balance to the force
Not entirely. That was a big part of TFA if you haven't seen it yet. Basically

The Force is still out of balance because there are new Dark Siders trying to fill the void left by the Sith, but there are no Jedi to provide balance because they were all killed. Again. Snoke is afraid that as long as Luke is out there more Jedi will be trained.

Basically Anakin took out the big bad wolf but the attempt to train new shepherds to tend the galactic flock was spoiled by new, if smaller, wolves. Cutting out the metaphors the Force wasn't permanently balanced by any means, it can still be unbalanced again as long as there are no Jedi or Jedi-like organizations to keep the balance.
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>>78992227
I am not >>78992083. Meanwhile, I don't see where you tried to have a discussion at all.
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>>78992225
How was he laughable as a villain exactly? He slaughtered everyone in Luke's academy, stopped a blaster bolt in midair, murdered one of the OT main characters and dominated Rey and Finn, even though he was badly injured and didn' want to kill Rey.
Oh, and unlike every single other Star Wars villain (except Vader), Kylo didn't die like a bitch.
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>>78992259
I swear I heard him say "last" the two times I saw it.
But Snoke was kind of hard for me to understand at times.
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>>78992302
>Killing untrained Jedi Apprentices with his Knights
>Stopping one Blaster Bolt
>Killing his Senile old dad
>Getting injured by Chewie by the same bolts he could've "stopped"
>Getting hurt by Finn
>Jobbing to Rey
>Temper Tantrums
>Good Villain.

He's a shitty excuse for a villain. Even Maul was better than him and he barely spoke at all.
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>>78992306
He said master. Can confirm, "the last" and "master" sound very different in my language (watched it dubbed) so there could be no mistake.
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>>78992302
>Every other
>implying any villain, other than Tarkin, has ever died in the same movie they were introduced in.

And even Tarkin had to have a death dealing space station blow up around him to kill him.
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>>78992302
>stopped a blaster bolt in midair
Other threads have pointed it out but there is a reason none of them do that. It's because they have these nifty laser swords that not only stop but deflect blaster bolts right into the face of the person who fired them. Freezing a bolt for a few minutes and then it suddenly zips on and hits whatever is in front of it isn't really a responsible act for a Jedi. At least when Vader deflected Han's shots with his bare hand he aimed for the walls.
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>>78992176
But there are no more Sith for the Chosen One to destroy. That was the whole point of the prophecy.
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>>78992407
You're a literal underage, if you honestly think a villain without any personality or motivation like Maul is better than a complex character like Kylo who actually acts like a believable human who turned to the dark side.

Only a child would judge a villain by his "badassery" instead of his characterization and his accomplishments.
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>>78992488
That matters why?
He wasn't just holding the bolt, he was holding Poe.
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>>78992488
And? It was badass as hell. His force choke was also more impressive than Vader's.
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>>78991660
>>78991680
I like how the entire city and buildings change between these two gifs
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>>78991680
>>78991660
maybe she's leaving by the back entrance.
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>>78992083
I agree with everything you've said. But that doesn't mean you go bring back the Sith. That'd be far worse than everything you've stated.

>>78992272
Oh, I've seen it. But I don't agree with you there. He fulfilled it. Just because there are still dark side users still out there doesn't mean the force is still out of balance. The turmoil and misery the Empire created has ceased on a galactic scale. With the Sith, knowing how to use the dark side so such a degree to tap into that to draw power from, no longer there, the force has leveled out.

>>78992105
>is older than Palps and miraculously surfaced after his death doesn't contradict the story?

Not necessarily. The Sith are not the only dark side users to have ever existed. They were just the most knowledgeable and powerful within it.
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>>78992516
But Kylo's not complex. He's a one dimensional character who obeys Snoke's orders like a lap dog - much like Maul.

Unless you're one of those idiots who thinks Kylo's "Just Misunderstood and really coming to terms with his inner conflict".

In terms of accomplishments, Maul actually managed to kill a Jedi Master.

Kylo allegedly killed a bunch of underaged Jedi Trainees. He was stupid enough to be enthralled by Snoke, and I'm supposed to take him seriously compared to Vader and Sidious?

He's a generic villain, simple as that. The fact that you can't even see that is worrying.
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>>78992666
>Kylo allegedly killed a bunch of underaged Jedi Trainees.
It was loli Rey's doing. Kylo din dun nothing
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>>78992633
The Sith actively try to create as much Dark Side mojo as possible. These new guys are doing the same thing. Nobody is saying the galaxy is AS out of balance as it was under Sheev, but it's still not properly balanced because the other half of the equation, the Jedi, are gone. What the Sith did to fuck up the balance is nothing that can't be done by any other group devoted to the Dark Side, especially with the First Order expanding their darkness. The galaxy is teetering on the brink of a new collapse in the balance. The movie posits that only the Jedi can preserve it.

Not really surprising.
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>>78992766
BEN WAS A GUD BOY HE DINDU NUFFIN

HE WENT TO LUKE'S ACADEMY TO GET HIS LIFE BACK TOGETHER
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>>78992666
>Micro Machines

Thanks Satan

And thanks Star Wars for bringing them back
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>>78992526
The point being there is nothing in that move which suggests it is in any way some major powerhouse ability. Yoda absorbing and redirecting Force Lightning with his bare hands, now THAT was an impressive never before seen ability. Freezing a blaster bolt is ridiculously tame.

>>78992567
No it wasn't.
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>>78992666
That "inner conflict" was bullshit. Show don't tell. He only did evil deeds, no good deeds to balance it.
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>>78992908
This, Kylo is not impressive in the slightest.

His greatest feat is a DS variant of Mind Trick / Telepathy. The Blaster Bolt thing isn't impressive since Trained Jedi and Sith have faster reflexes than him.

Assuming the Episode III Novel by Stower (Amazing Writer) is still Canon along with the movie, then it shows Sidious and Windu moving so fast that even Anakoin - a trained Jedi Knight, couldn't even keep up with them with his own fucking eyes.

One Blaster Bolt will hurt (kill if placed right), but Force Lightning will char you alive.

Dooku is one of the greatest duelists of his time, casually disarming both Obi-Wan and Anakin on numerous occasions in the movies.

Yoda lifted up Luke;s fucking X-Wing on Dagobah, and he's about to kick the bucket.

Palpatine was throwing Senator Pods at Yoda with ease, along with lightning.

Hell, Vader blocked Blaster Fire in ESB with his bare fucking hands (cyborg or Force, that's up to you).

MOVIE Sidious force choked Gunray from across the fucking Galaxy in a Holo Comn.

None of this even touches on the old EU. Kylo isn't shit - period.

Kylo hasn't even demonstrated basic shit like Force Speed or Jumps, he's a rank amateur and we're somehow supposed to believe that he's a credible threat in the grand scheme of things.

Believe it or not - I don;t hate Kylo - I just can't understand where the notion of him being "complex" and "badass" comes from.
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>>78992666
>But Kylo's not complex.

Yes he is. In fact, he is the most complex character in Star Wars.
He wears a mask because he is insecure and he desperately wants to be as powerful as Vader. He admires his grandfather, but he knows about the circumstances of his deauth and the Empire's deafeat. That's why he fears the light side of the force. He thinks that Vader failed because of his feelings for his son. That is why Kylo Ren thinks he needs to accomplish what Vader didn't to "save the galaxy". He didn't want to kill his father, but he needed to do it to destroy his inner light side. But he failed. He was actually weakened after Han's death because Kylo isn't actually a bad person. He just tries to be evil, but it's not in his nature. That's why he had to ask Han for his permission to kill him. That's why he didn't kill Finn in the village, even though he knew that Finn didn't obey his direct orders. And that's why he didn't kill his officers in his tantrums, even though he has a very short temper. Kylo Ren isn't completely evil, he is a conflicted character which is why he's so frustrated. Both the light and the dark are influencing his mind and his actions.

He is a very interesting and compelling villain. I really can't understand how anyone could find him uninteresting.
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>>78992812
>What the Sith did to fuck up the balance is nothing that can't be done by any other group devoted to the Dark Side,

Apparently that isn't so. The Sith were capable of creating a galactic wide conflict and subjugated everything that conflict was involved with to create a source of power for them. What Snoke and Kylo have done doesn't even measure to a speck of such an accomplishment. They blew up a couple planets, they haven't created pain, suffering and death everywhere in the galaxy. The latter is what it takes to put the force out of balance.

>The movie posits that only the Jedi can preserve it.

Never got that impression.

The force is balanced. I've no doubt Snoke wants to throw it out of balance. But he's nowhere even close to being there. Especially now that his notdeathstar is gone.
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>>78993137
It's one thing to describe his actions and his conflict, but that doesn't automatically make it a good one.

Just because he's going through some 'inner turmoil' doesn't elevate him to a good villain. I find him uninteresting because through all of his struggles, he still comes off has an unimpressive person. To me, it equates more with teen angst then a true psychological conflict.
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>>78993137
> He was actually weakened after Han's death because Kylo isn't actually a bad person.

I'm pretty sure he was weakened because of the fucking Bowcaster shot from Chewie.

Kylo's not some deep character with emotional turmoil.

If he's so conflicted, then why did he literally slaughter all of Luke's Trainees?

Why did he actually murder his father if he loved him? If he really was channeling both sides of the Force, he shouldn't been able to kill Han. If he was conflicted, why not push him all the way back and go after Rey and Finn without killing him?

Kylo didn't do anything to Finn because he actually thought Finn was beneath him as a lowly, cowardly Trooper - much like any evil megalomaniac would. He also taunts Finn during the final confrontation, something an empathic person probably wouldn't do.

See >>78992991. If Kylo was so conflicted, there should've been scenes showing his compassionate side. He should've showed mercy to the spy at the begining of the film, Leia and Han don't say anything about Ben's past, just that Snoke seduced him.

>>78993292 puts it best. There's nothing he does to truly show any lasting damage. Kylo's anger and temper problems read off more as an immature child who is angry that he's not evil and powerful enough like his idol Vader.
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Kylo needs a woman desu senpai
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>>78993506
Why the fuck would Kylo ever be romantically interested in Rey?

He just wants an apprentice to impress Snoke and Vader's Ghost.
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>>78993238
Actually what the Sith did isn't all that impressive. The Hutts have a pretty nasty empire in their own right, for instance. Conquering worlds isn't all that impressive and doesn't require a Sith, no not even at the scale at which the Empire existed. It helped, though. The FO isn't the Empire, they're a remnant, but they're also resurgent. Just because they haven't (yet) risen to the prominence of the old Empire doesn't mean they can't. Especially with the Republic dicking around and no Jedi.

As for the Jedi themselves, Von Sydow's character talks about the need for the Jedi to balance the Force. Later on Snoke is worried about Luke potentially training more. That's why Luke is in their crosshairs, after all. The movie wasn't even subtle about that, it's their whole reason for going to Jakku and hunting down BB-8.
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>>78993539
Well, he probably wouldn't. But Rey would.
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>That pic
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>>78993603
>Literally chases her across the galaxy.
>Tries to mindrape her
>Tries to Convince her to become his apprentice
>Then tries to kill her.
>Rey somehow falls in love with him and wants to have Force Babies with him.

Yeah, I don't see it.
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>>78993292
It was good in my opinion, but that's of course subjective. It makes him a complex character though and he is certainly not one dimensional. He is literally the opposite of that.

>I find him uninteresting because through all of his struggles, he still comes off has an unimpressive person. To me, it equates more with teen angst then a true psychological conflict.

I really wouldn't just call it teenage angst after seeing Han's death scene or the scene where he talks to Vader's helmet. He reminds me a bit of a teenager who joins the IS in syria to rebel against their parents or our society. It might seem like typical angst, but you don't do shit like that if you're a mentally sane person.
Driver called Kylo Ren a religious fanatic and that's exactly what he acts like. That's why he feels scarier to me than a typical "badass" monster villain. He feels real. A villain who actually exists in our world.

>>78993378
>If he's so conflicted, then why did he literally slaughter all of Luke's Trainees?

We don't know that yet. I'm sure we will know it by the end of the trilogy.

>Why did he actually murder his father if he loved him?

I didn't say that he loved his father, but killing ones parents is more difficult than just slaughtering some desert villages. He did it, because Snoke told him that he had to do what Vader couldn't. Kylo wanted to finish what Vader started which is obviously not possible, if he "fails" where Vader failed. He certainly didn't kill Han because he was bloodthirsty. The novelization even describes how emotionally disturbed and "weakened" he was after the deed which is why he couldn't block Chewie's blaster shot.
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>>78993088
The frozen blaster bolt isn't all that impressive, really, but his ability to fuck around inside people's minds is. The Inquisitor showed that they use similar tactics but only impart feelings, particularly pain. Even Vader when was interrogating Leia couldn't just poke around in her head for the location of the Rebel base. I don't think people want to admit that Poe is just weak minded, but when Vader couldn't break Leia so easily who was a technical Force sensitive even if she hadn't manifested yet...

This kind of mental invasion could be specific to Snoke's teachings, something the Sith lacked. Wouldn't be the first time since the Nightsisters had their own particular powers while the Sith had their own ancient cauldron magic which Dooku didn't know about until Sidious showed him. Presumably that's all gone.
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>>78993657
>catches her
>have some time to know each other better while they warping to Snoke's stronghold
After all, he took off his mask to show her he's not a monster but a human bean.
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>>78988069
Awww
It's like the nymph stage of a TIE after it just hatched.
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>>78989618
what are you on? it's the best film JJ has made. You can't honestly be a "muh kirk" fag and say that
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>>78993713
In the new canon that' all fine and dandy.
>Kylo Mind probes people.
>Inquisitor does the same with Emotions
>Vader somehow doesn't do something similar with Leia (probably because the writers didn't think of that in 1977)

But EU Palpatine is a whole other monster.
>Literally mindraped Billions of People on the Planet of Byss simutaneously.
>This is also the same man who could casually destroy entire planets with Force Wormholes
>He teleported Luke across the fucking galaxy by bending Time and Space via the aforementioned Wormholes

He'd also get along really well with Vitiate and Nihilus - who can drain entire planets of their life essence.

Nothing in the new Canon is impressive.
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>>78993544

Everything you said between

>Actually what the Sith did isn't all that impressive
and
>Just because they haven't (yet) risen to the prominence of the old Empire doesn't mean they can't.

Is more or less true.

But; 1, What the Sith (namely Sidious) accomplished was outrageously impressive. And 2, The FO/Empire can't reobtain what they lost. After the events of TFA, I doubt the Republic will continue standing around with their thumbs up their asses and get in gear.

>Von Sydow's character talks about the need for the Jedi to balance the Force

I think that was more the character's opinion than an actual matter of the force.

>Later on Snoke is worried about Luke potentially training more. That's why Luke is in their crosshairs, after all. The movie wasn't even subtle about that, it's their whole reason for going to Jakku and hunting down BB-8.

Because they're paranoid to the extent that Luke/the Jedi are the only things that can be a threat to them. Yet the whole movie proves otherwise. Their plot was foiled without a single Jedi to stand against them.
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>>78993937
That's an unfair comparison. We're not comparing Kylo's skill with the EU and it's DBZ power levels, but with characters like Maul, Dooku and Vader. And no one in the movies has ever knocked a person out by just effortlessly waving his hand, like Kylo did when hunting Rey on Takodana. That shit was impressive.
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>>78993937
>Nothing in the new Canon is impressive.
All that stuff you just said isn't impressive. It's over the top ridiculous batshit crazy that raises the question of why the Emperor bothered with the R&D, materials, and labor costs not to mention staffing, supplies, etc for not just one but two Death Stars.
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>>78993647
It can't be stopped. They've already said they won't stop even if they are related by blood
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>implying Poe won't win the Reybowl
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>>78994053
Still, Kylo's saber skills are pitiful at best. Movie Vader, Maul, Dooku and obviously Sidious would kill him with that alone.

Kylo's only interesting gimmick is his variant of Force Telepathy. None of the Sith really needed to bother, considering how their opponents were pretty much really strong Jedi throughout the movies and would most likely be either immune or highly resistant.

Look what happened when Kylo tried his TP on Rey in the interrogation chamber, she canceled him out, and I doubt Rey is as potent with the force as any other Sith or Jedi in the movies.

The knockout can be attributed to the same concept, screwing with a person's head (really convenient that he didn't do that to Finn during the last fight)

And even then, again Palpatine Force Choked Gunray across the fucking Galaxy. Vader is the greatest damage sponge in both trilogies (blaster fire in ESB).

Those feats alone imply strength orders of magnitude above Kylo.
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>>78993539
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>>78993869
They can't see your face from the sides. Stealth increased.
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>>78993668
>He feels real. A villain who actually exists in our world.
>It makes him a complex character though and he is certainly not one dimensional. He is literally the opposite of that.

Eh, I wouldn't go that far.

I dislike Lawrence Kasdan for his backpedaling use of his own rules on characterization. I'm paraphrasing here, but he states that a character doesn't need to do X or say Y, if it can be easily explained with a few lines of dialogue. Complexity comes later. Note, I'm not saying other characters in Star Wars can't be complex. Just discussing Kylo.

So here we have Kylo Ren. Conflicted soul that is torn between the light and the dark. By talking to Vader's helmet and killing his father he attempts to free himself. Again, with all his struggles we see in TFA, it pushes his character towards being one dimensional instead of away. It's not like in a good plot related way by saying "Kylo is conflict, Kylo is strife upon his enemies." He whines, argues, and tantrums all across the film, and I'm told that he is a complex character.

This attempt at complexity is poor, as was his entire characterization.
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>>78994080
I love the fact that you're actually trying to rationalize the EU, nobody does that, we just accept it for what it is.

However to be fair, based on what Palpatine showed in the Prequel Trilogy, Luke should never have been a threat to him. If he could sense Luke from that far away, he could easily have followed him to Dagobah and killed him and Yoda right then and there.

At the end of Episode III, Yoda flat out states that he's not strong enough to take down Palpatine, and it's why he was so desperate for Luke to complete his training in Episode V.

But he didn't, for the exact same reason - plot.
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>>78994049
That assumes both that the Republic can get their shit together, especially their their political upheaval since the Chancellor and all the senators are dead and need replacing, not to mention all their ships, and once they do will they have the stomach for another long term war? Especially against an enemy that has its evil space giant wizard man leading it. Leia is just with the Resistance and we have no idea how advanced her abilities are. With Von Sydow he was never refuted, in fact the actions of Snoke affirm his feelings on the matter.

You don't just balance the Force and fix everything forever. There will always be new threats. If not the Sith then someone else. The galaxy needs people who can keep the peace, maintain the balance, and in the old days that was the Jedi. This new trilogy is basically return of the Jedi: the long edition. If they'd made the sequels much earlier this would have been about Luke's new Jedi order. Since the OT cast is so old they had to account for why Luke didn't start his new order earlier. So in this version he did but it didn't work out. Now he has to be convinced to try again.
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>>78994335
>I love the fact that you're actually trying to rationalize the EU, nobody does that, we just accept it for what it is.
Who was trying to rationalize it? Saying it makes no fucking sense is in no way rationalizing it. Quite the opposite.
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>>78994326
Wasn't Kasdan the same guy who was clamoring for Han's death in Episode VI?

Wasn't he also the one who pushed for ESB to be dark as hell?

But to Kylo - you're right. The other anon doesn't realize that Kylo hasn't shown any deliberate indicators that he's a tormented soul who wants to do good, but had to go bad for whatever reason.
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>>78979706
The comics are still in their early days, so it's very easy to catch up and read them all in just a few hours. They're all decent-great, except IMO Leia, which was very weak and felt more like some unnecessary social commentary which I didn't care for.

Rebels is much weaker than TCW, but still has its high points, and is improving pretty quickly. Again, it's in its early days, and wouldn't take more than a few hours to fully catch up, so there's no reason not too.

If I can tempt you, well it's possibly the last time you'll get any on-screen Vader action, and definitely the last time you'll hear James Earl Jones.

>>78983400
Best advice I can give you is to check out the Kabam forums for that kind of info.

>>78983928
I have to admit, you're looking classy as fuck.

>>78984414
>Not Nute Gunrays legendary porn stash

>>78984894
Huh... Well... M-Maybe Ahsoka will be after...
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>>78994248
>again Palpatine Force Choked Gunray across the fucking Galaxy.

No, he choked Dooku. In no part in TPM does he choke Gunray.
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>>78994186
>Kylo's hair not pulled back into Padawan ponytail
>or at least cut short like Kanan's was pre-Order 66
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>>78994433
It was more the fact that he was trying to understand why OP as shit Palpatine would even bother with the rest of the stuff like the Death Star if he could do insane Force Shit.

To that I answer - because why not?

>>78994448
Yeah you're right about that. It's even better that it's Dooku.
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>>78983072
Wait, does one of those fools have a buster sword?!
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>>78994248
I don't disagree with you, but the problem I have with "Kylo doubters" is that you are talking about Kylo's skill as if he already reached his full potential. He clearly hasn't. Abrams called him the "anti-Luke" and said that he wanted to create a villain who has his own arc and gets more powerful over time, just like Luke. Just compare ANH Luke to ROTJ Luke and you'll notice how different they are, and not just in skill and power, but also the different attitude. Kylo Ren and Rey have already shown us some pretty impressive feats. Now imagine how strong they'll be in the next movie. And in Episode IX. I think the new force users are going to surpass the prequel Jedi and Sith by far.
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>>78994517
Cortosis cricket bat. His official role in the FO is to smack prospective stormtrooper recruits while they shout, "Thank you sir may I have another?" The fact that the recruits are all kids is just really super creepy.
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>>78989164
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZXQR-cPXlmY

Paddlin' is serious shit
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>>78994248
>Palpatine Force Choked Gunray across the fucking Galaxy
He did that to DOOKU in TCWs. Dude does not fuck around.
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>>78994461
Luke came up with his own rules. Why would he copy the failed old Jedi order anyway?
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>>78994672
>The Oscars are a joke and have always been highly biased and political.
That is true.

>>78994672
>Calling Fury Road a Mad Max movie is a fucking joke considering Max takes a backseat to that feminist pandering bitch who's name i can't even remember.
I will agree that Max took a back seat in his own movie, but that doesn't mean the film was feminist pandering. You can critique better than that.
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>>78994672
are people really still this mad about Fury Road? I remember reading all the anti-SJW stuff here in /co/ and on /tv/ and then I watched it on dvd and I had a blast.
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>>78994517
Yes. And one of them has a halberd. I hope we'll actually see them in action in VIII.
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>>78994672
>Forgetting a name like FU-RI-OS-A!
Mediocre!
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>>78994448
>>78994510
>>78994248
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>>78991300
>Chuchi
OVER THE LINE ANON
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>>78994824
You know, I never found the Emperor to be all that interesting or engaging in any of the material he appears in.
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>>78994720
>implying rules for those that can grow hair were responsible for the Order failing
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>>78994905
>Skipping The Fall of Clovis Arc
>Not realizing how effortlessly Sheev manipulated the entire conflict to gain control of the banks
>Not realizing how he pushed Anakin and Clovis together to accelerate his fall to the dark side
>Not realizing how he got off while he sensed Anakin beating the shit out of Clovis
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What happened?
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>>78995019
None of that is interesting though, he is the most stereotypical evil laugh hand wringing bad guy. There is literally nothing more about him, he doesn't do anything other than "oh I am evil yes I am" Calling him Evil Batman makes him about as interesting as Batman, who is about as interesting as a wooden board.
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