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Let me ask you about The Transformers

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OK, so G1 canon states that the Quintessons created the Autobots and Decepticons as two seperate product lines: Autobots are domestic assistants and blue collar workers, and Decepticons were military hardware. So while you can change your faction by choice, you are still one or the other by design.

Furthermore, we know that eventually Transformers are able to breed, since Rattrap's great aunt is Arcee.

So, if an Autobot and Decepticon have a baby, what is the faction of the child?

Now what about an Autobot and a __Human__?
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>>78981088
Six shot, a deception, is quickswitch's father. Quickswitch is an auto bot. Tho quickswitch's chose to join the auto bots so... Hmm...
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>>78981165
I'm pretty sure Jetfire also used to be a Decepticon.

Like I said, you can change alignments but you can't change the faction you were born to.
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Over time and as both robots became equally combat ready I don't think the design matters...in Beast Wars which was the original continuation of G1 protoforms can become either and factions can be swapped on the fly
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>>78981088
>Furthermore, we know that eventually Transformers are able to breed, since Rattrap's great aunt is Arcee.
Sorry bud, that was a joke. Though Cybertronians do procreate in other ways such as:
>Budding
>Protoforms (pretty much blank state fetuses)
>Building an individual from scrap.
>Rebuilding an individual into a new being.
>The Allspark being an ass and bringing things to life that'll rip out your innards.
>Primus or any piece of him bringing beings to life.

http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Reproduction

Besides Autobot and Decepticons are just goodguy/badguy factions with tons of variations on both. You can change sides.
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>>78981088
>spoiler

Hybrids or whatever Blackrock is in the current IDW run.
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>>78981241

They don't swap. The Maximal protoforms have a Predacon shell program that converts them.

Like BlackArachnia. As soon as her shell program is removed she becomes a Maximal.
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>>78981361
By swapping I was thinking more Dinobot, who just changes to Maximal when he decides to
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>>78981246
>Besides Autobot and Decepticons are just goodguy/badguy factions with tons of variations on both. You can change sides.

You can, but you were still designed as one or the other.
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>>78981234
No, Jetfire has always been an auto boy. He was just starscream's friend from a time period in which the autobots and deceptions were at peace with each other.
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>>78986603
>He was just starscream's friend from a time period in which the autobots and deceptions were at peace with each other.
Was SS backstabber even then?
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What the name of the "Evil Optimus" from one of the cartoons?
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>>78987110
Scourge? From RID 2001.
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>>78981088
By those standards, the Matrix of Leadership should belong to the Decepticons, since so many of the ancient Primes were gladiators and thus military hardware.

Obviously Autobot propaganda has twisted its role to allow them to claim at being peaceful, when they are just as warlike as the cons.
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>>78987586
Wasn't Optimus Prime just meant to be a cop, and he went above and beyond that?
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>>78987110
Nemesis Prime?

>>78987586
Not really. Sentinel Prime was considered a weird outlier due to being a gladiator.

>>78987627
Data clerk.
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>>78987525
>you will never raise a baby police cruiser with Strongarm.
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>>78986688
No, apparently Starscream was a good friend to him at the time.
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>>78987938
Nah, we see Prima fighting with Sentinel as well.

Likely the first consumer good Prime was Guardian Prime.

>>78987627
Not in the cartoon, which is where this bit of canon derives from. There he worked at the docks.
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You know, I've always thought the cartoon origin was the best of any Transformers fiction.

The Quintessons creating Primus and both races as slaves is a lot cooler than atechnogenesis or whatever.
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>>78990075
And that's why the best fiction brings it back.
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>>78990399
>tfw working on a Strongarm custom

I don't know if I want to do a Voyager/Leader sized show-accurate one, a cute little scout one, or a deluxe one based on the doujin design
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>>78990404
God the art of this comic is just fucking pristine

I love it
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You just wanna fuck a robot, don't you OP?
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>>78989167
Prime had Orion Pax as a clerk that formed a rapport with Megatronus and his want to free the people from the caste system.
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>>78981246
>Sorry bud, that was a joke.

Source? I don't remember that ever being elaborated on one way or another.
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>>78990681
Yes but Prime doesn't have the Autobot = Consumer Goods, Decepticon = Military Hardware concept in its backstory.

Dreamwave had something similar, where Cons were conquerers, and Bots were defenders, and Prime was an archivist there. But the Military Hardware and Consumer Goods thing only happened when Pax was a labourer.
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>>78981088
>Now what about an Autobot and a Human?
Not compatible but that didn't stop Seaspray/Alana and Powerglide/Astoria from having some sort of romantic relationship.

...And probably never gonna happen. No matter how badly you want to ship a bot/human.
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Anyone got a good pic for RiD Strongarm? I wanna make a request in /aco/
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>>78992364
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>>78991370
where there are Mad Scientist there is a way.
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>>78992364

This is about as good as it gets as far as official art
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>>78981088
Quints made consumer goods and industrial goods(including military)
Eventually those that were the industrial saw themselves as the backbone of progress, and banded together to form deceptions. Those consumer goods just weren't involved, and eventually became Autobots only to fight back.
Neither faction is hard coded. It was societal. It's like the south going from dem to republican.
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>>78993159
>south going from dem to republican.
>south
>democrats

Eeehh....
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Are there other aliens besides Quintessons and Cybertronians in Transformers?
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>>78994655
There was some alien bar scene that got posted, and it looked like a Star Wars cantina scene IIRC. Still, that's probably just one canon.
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>>78992364
Kill yourself waifufaggot.
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>>78994655
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>>78995102
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>>78995155
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>>78995179
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>>78994655
Nebulans
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>>78981088
I want to see Strongarm sodomised by the Quintensons
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>>78994157
The "solid south" was a thing up until the 70's or so.

It wasn't until republican social conservitives really took hold, and the civil rights movement made the south switch to republicans.

For instance, my Granparents are still staunchly Democrats, even though they don't agree with anything that the party stands for.
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>>78996037
L E W D
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>>78990480
What are you talking about?
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>Strongarm canon doesn't know what kissing is

I will teach her.
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>>78996652

That's very little jaggies in the shadows.

Took them decades, but it looks like cel-shaded CGI is finally getting decent.
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>>78996303
It's really weird how the republicans and democrats completely polarized in just 40 years ago. Your grandparents probably have the strong republican ideas of the old democratic ways.
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>>78990075
>The Quintessons creating Primus and both races as slaves is a lot cooler than atechnogenesis or whatever.

I couldn't possibly disgree more. What's cool about the Transformers is that they're aliens first and robots second. They don't hold the normal function of robots in science fiction. To then say they're origin was just like any other robot origin in sci-fi takes away their originality.

I've always been a Marvel comics origin kind of guy. Two interdimentional gods seeding the beginnings of artificial life then letting it grow on its own.
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>>78996763
Huh. And here I was hoping you had died.
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>that fucking doujin

No.

But yes.

But no.

I feel conflicted.
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>>78992695
>Mad Scientist
Oh yes. Very much.
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>>78997142
are you still a virgin?
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>>78996763
>>78997142
God damn do I dig giant robots.
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>>78997228
He definitely is.
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>>78986603
He had a Decepticon symbol even when he was frozen in the ice millions of years ago tho. He's also a flying Autobot, an anomaly until the next year, anyway. Since he was built as a Decepticon even in the Marvel comics, it's safe to say that was the original creative bible's description for him. "Autobots are mostly cars, Decepticons are mostly planes, except for this guy, he switched sides."
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The thing that annoys me about most of you fuckers is that you forget that we are dealing with a canonical MULTIVERSE, that is also canonically unexplored so as to give Hasbro room to say 'fuck you, we're doing G1 again'.

Meaning all things are possible. ALL things.

Do you like Primus as God of all creation? Hey, there's a vein of 'verse for you. Do you prefer Quintessons fucking with everything? Here's your Big Bang, don't break it this time.

Meaning that there are also universe where bots are born, bots are built, or both. G1-G2-Beast Era was 'both', as you had some bots built, some born from budding system, and some hints here and there to a more human form of hanky-panky.

Also, remember the Allspark exists just to fuck with everything.
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>>78996763
>commission E-Mad last month
>he immediately vanished

why is it so hard to find reliable artists that do lewd robots
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>>78996854
>>78997228
>>78997565
Fuck off /tfg/umblr

>>78996763
The problem is that they "originality" comes at the expense of a much stronger story.
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>>78997701
You forget the whole stop like what I don't like mindset
It's not enough they can enjoy their fiction it has to be THE fiction
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>>78997573
No, Starscream gives him the symbol after freeing him. Skyfire crashed on Earth prior to the war and was just a Cybertronian; Megatron even says something about it happening "before our Battle with the Autobots".
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>>78997867
Wow you're new.
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>>78997867
>Fuck off /tfg/umblr
Did we trigger you?
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>>78997701
>The thing that annoys me about most of you fuckers

Little lost. Who was arguing in this thread prior?
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>>78987525
Transformers don't have sexual organs. Gender is just mental stuff.
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>>78997867
>The problem is that they "originality" comes at the expense of a much stronger story.
Were the Quintesson episodes of G1 really that good?
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Does the transformers fanbase have any written smut?
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>>78990480
Big
Blue
Die-Cast
Boobs
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>>78998710
you must be new here
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>>78998811
To transformers? yes, totally and absolutely.
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>>78998738
Take it to /toy/
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>>78996652
Huh, she kind of reminds me of Exia.
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>>78998856
TF Fapfics been around since the late 80s. Though 90% gonna be gay fapfics.
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>>78998916
Fuck no. Jin is hated there.
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>>78999135
>Hated here
>Hated there
Good
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>>78998916

Go on...
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>>78999202
Could Strongarm and Judge Hershey beat Baroness and Spiral in a fight?
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>>78999297
Go to /toy/ Boco.
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>>78999297
If you want more then ask the TFG on /toy/.
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>>78999314
Only if you buy all their playsets and toys.
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>>78999314
I'mma say yes unless they decide to go full nuts with Spiral's magic. Also,
>Strongarm in an MC-1 Judge color scheme deco
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>>78999314
>spiral
>strongarm

stop anon, my dick can't take it
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>>78999397
Is commercialism a crime?
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>>78996563
Customs are where you make your own toy, normally out of parts of others. Some people also 3D print their own.

There's a bunch of stuff on shapeways
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>>78996797
FAT
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>>78999642
>>78999585
>>78999403
I like that she's getting popular but kinda sad it's only when jiggly water balloons are attached to her chest. Nobody likes her otherwise.
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>>78998710
Not a whole lot from what I've seen. Even the art tends to avoid straight-up fucking. Most artists don't want to figure out how a robot has a vagina.

I'm not saying smut doesn't exist, just that there's a surprisingly limited amount of it.
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>>78999731
She has metal water tanks
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>>78999731
i don't understand the appeal of robots with jiggly breasts. make it look realistic and robotic somehow, fine. but jiggleboobs are a no and gross. same goes for people who draw "fat" transformers.
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>>78999789
Back when Strongarm was Okayarm
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>>78999724
Anon don't you know a buff woman.
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>>78999731
Yeah, it's kind of a shame. I actually really enjoyed her character, mostly because they did a good job at rounding her up. I thought she was gonna be a no fun allowed by the book eye-rolling humorless pro, and in a way she was, but they also did a great job of balancing that with her eager space cadet personality and exploring the idea of her using her law book as a tether to Cybertron, her own way to cope with being away from home. It made for a much more likeable, enjoyable character than I thought she'd end up being.
Her going full-on catty bitch mode when Windblade showed up was shit tho'.
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>>78999826
>No liking fat robots
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>>78999912
That isn't buff, that is a hard light projection. It has whatever build/density it wants.
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>>78999951
>Spoiler
To be fair, she wasn't by the books and it was going against everything Strongarm was taught or suggesting. For example, when Windblade didn't mind if a few humans got hurt when apprehending Zizza. At least she got over it in the end.
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>>78999985
Oh god no.
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>>79000087
Windblade is an avatar of God. I'm sure that Windblade outranks a rookie beat cop.
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>>79000152
> avatar of God.
Don't you mean agent? If she was the avatar of god then I would be questionable about Primus taking over the body of another bot like that.
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>>79000087
See, that's exactly what bothered me about that episode. It would have made perfect sense for Strongarm to be mad at Windblade because she endangered humans and thought she was too cool for procedure (which even Sideswipe follows, when prompted to). Instead, the episode made it look like Strongarm was just angry at not being the only girl in the team any more. They had a perfect source of conflict and differing opinions but didn't use it as much as "lol you just jelly my helly".
But yeah, the ep's resolution was great stuff.
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>>78999826
>not liking boobs

You disgust me
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>>78996718
>decent

Have you seen Guilty Gear Xrd? Shit looks amazing.
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>>79000152
>avatar of God
did you mean: mary sue ?
though she can be written well when scott hasn't got a hold of her
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>>79000286
>Not wanting to caress smooth metal pectorals of metal alien men and offer a good buffing.

No anon. It is YOU who disgust me.
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>>79000416
Just wait until S2 where she starts purging heretics.
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>>79000443
>metal pectorals of metal alien men
>>79000286
>unfitting boobs on robots
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>>79000465
>Going full IDW Star Saber
Kinda want to see that.
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>>78992364
Please do.
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>>79000117
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>>79000532
>Devout religious follower
>Is cast as the bad guy to push the writer's heretical agenda
This should be illegal
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>>79000286
>liking gross fatty fleshtits
Why even bother with robots then?
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>>79000612
>not knowing why he was cast as that
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>>79000612
Nah. Doing crazy shit like that makes things interesting.
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>>78999951
I was prepared for the worst and thought it was going to be like when Windblade first shows up only an entire show of her doing nothing but one-upping the boyz, so it was both a relief and really interesting to see her be kind of average and round off and compliment a group of specialized individuals without stepping on anyone's toes.
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>>79000612
>not knowing Star Saber was a bad guy in the British equivalent of the Botcon comic
>not knowing the current author was a fan of those comics
This should be illegal.
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>>79000689
Because James Roberts hates organized religion, governments, and medicine while glorifying reckless behavior and non-reproductive romances.
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>>79000771
she sounds boring af
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>>79000783
>>>/pol/
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>>79000808
Sideswipe pls go
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>>79000771
Yeah, overall RiD felt pretty decent in that aspect. They had tons of stuff that could've gone horribly wrong or cliche but went for more subdued solutions more often than not. They never went much further than that but at least it wasn't a chore to watch through.
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>>79000834
Windblade waifufag pls go
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Spoiler for heresy.
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>>79000948
She can read me my Miranda rights any day.
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>>79000948
No way that bellyshirt is regulation.
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>>79000948
>She never had a holomatter avatar
> And now that RiD is canceled she never will.
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>>79000948
>>79001128
Needs to be shorter & thicker.

Seriously, I like that Strongarm's design is bulkier and stouter than lady-bots tend to be.
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>>79001135
>RiD is canceled
Wait, you're kidding me, right?
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>>79001135
What are you talking about. Season 2 has been announced.
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>>79001157
Yes, but she is still taller than the other female characters. Like just under Bumblebee and Sideswipe's height while Arcee and Airachnid were tiny compared to their comrades.
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>>79001206
It gets a half season and then the plug is pulled.
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>>79001228
Where are you getting your info? Season two is getting 16 episodes. Then a movie (3 episodes long) which is not bad.
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>>78990999
prime is what you get when the allspark takes the place of a unit's logical and memory cores. Their personality remains roughly the same.

as far as gladitorial autobots go, I'm sure after market modifications are a big hit.
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>>78998680
I mean, *I* personally really love the Killing Jar and The Quinesson Journal, but the Quintessons didn't create Cybertronians in Marvel UK continuity and still got to be great villains in Space Pirates.

It kinda amuses me that the old fanon reconciliation of "Primus created Cybertronians, he just let them be invaded and branwashed by Quintessons for millions of years because reasons" has become canon, albeit at the cost of the stupidity that is "Quintus Prime". I'd much rather Quintessons-creating-Transformers-as-living-weapons over THAT any day.

Really, either way you look at it, the Transformers are equally "special" inasmuch as they're races created as weapons that then struggled and found a greater destiny. Whether they were weapons created by Primus to fight Unicron in his stead or weapons/slaves created by the Quintessons to be sold.

And I love the idea of Transformers, as an alien culture, having as many different belief systems as humans do and while some Transformers believe in Primus, the Lord of the Light Gods, some believe that's just a myth based around a megacomputer called Vector Sigma, or that they evolved from naturally occurring gears and pulleys, or believers in the vision quests of the controversial Rodimus Prime who claims they were all built by horrible warmongering aliens. And I like the idea of a race of tentacled horrors that are actually cosmic swindlers.
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>>79000443
Oh boy /tfg/umblr is here now.
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>>79001674
>muh tumblr boogymen
>>>/v/
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>>79001674
Get over yourself. Liking sexy bots isn't just a tfg thing.
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>>79000271
I interpreted is as Maighread Scott getting meta and writing Windblade as a blatant Mary Sue - she's a chosen one magical girl snowflake singled out by their GOD, is completely awesome at everything, and is immediately beloved by most of Team Bee. And Strongarm wasn't taken in her by her and was actively bothered by all that bullshit. I thought it was pretty amusing.
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>>79001674
You've never been to the /y/ tfg, have you faggot?
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The best possible origin story for The Transformers is

>Quintessons create Vector Sigma
>Vector Sigma is used to create Primus
>Primus is used to create Cybertronians
>Cybertronians rise up against Quintessons
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>>79001742
Kek, you are giving Scott way too much credit.
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>>79001674

What's wrong anon? Getting triggered?
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>>79001783
I know how we can find out.
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>>79001771
I'm giving her too much credit by assuming she's familiar with all the tropes of Mary Sue fanfiction? C'mon jeffe.
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>>79001669
>And I love the idea of Transformers, as an alien culture, having as many different belief systems as humans do and while some Transformers believe in Primus, the Lord of the Light Gods, some believe that's just a myth based around a megacomputer called Vector Sigma, or that they evolved from naturally occurring gears and pulleys, or believers in the vision quests of the controversial Rodimus Prime who claims they were all built by horrible warmongering aliens. And I like the idea of a race of tentacled horrors that are actually cosmic swindlers.

As much as I dislike of the idea of Quintessons for making Cybertronians less alien I am really curious how the comics are going to pull them off.
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>>79001742
Yeah, it's a pretty classic plot, but what bothered me is that they had a perfect reason for Strongarm not liking her and didn't focus on it as much as they could've, in my opinion. Still not nearly as bad as it could've gone, and everyone walked out of it looking pretty good.
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It's so easy to spot the /tfg/ bitches whenever they start swarming a thread.
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>>79001834
>There's a reason your General is banned.

But it's not. We just don't have anything else to warrant one to keep it alive.
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>>79001834
>There's a reason your General is banned.
The tfg is not banned you hilarious moron, it just runs out of normal discussion and sages, then waifu threads pop up until the next one. Are you so new you don't know this?
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>>79001834
not banned, just die because a circlejerk of the same few people that figured each other out so it became formulaic.
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>>79001824
You must not read her twitter, she honestly believes everything she writes IS perfect, and that Windblade is not a mary sue. Seriously.
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>>79001868
>Post lots of sexy Strongarm. Nobody complains
>Joke about gay bots. REEEEEEEEEEE!!!

Sounds like you're just buttmad other people broke into your fun.
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>>79001892
Transformers is kill.
1984-2016
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>>79001834
Silly anon

>Banned
You wish...
There its nothing to discuss atm
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>>79001937
Maybe hes mad no one is fapping to his fat waifu with him.
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>>79001950
"Thick"fags are an abomination
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>>79001940

Hey man. 2016 is not going easy on anyone. Don't jinx on Peter Cullen's life.
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>>79001940
>like the Geewunners said when beast Wars showed up
>like both G1 and Bw said when Animated showed up
>like everyone said when Bayformers showed up
>like every other time things were ruined forever

Yeah ok.
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>>79001937
>OP starts thread with Strongarm pic
>thread becomes Strongarm thread

>tumblr brigade senses the evils of cis males and tries to derail the thread

You literally do this all the time.
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>>79001972
Don't even joke dude.
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>>79001892
>>79001919
>>79001942
And yet here you are, shitposting as hard as you can.
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>>79001986
>>tumblr brigade senses the evils of cis males and tries to derail the thread

Well now you're just projecting.
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>>79001426

Yeah, but when is the new season going to air?
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>>79001986
you sound awfully paranoid there, Strongarm fag
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>>79002013
This March
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>>79002003
Im just here for pics man, calm your ass flames.
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>>79001971
Ironic coming from someone obsessed with a comic about gay sex
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>>79001986
>Fat chick in role of law enforcement taken seriously
Literally SJW bait
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Is it possible to have a human main character in a transformers show who's actually good?
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>>79002003
>Shitposting
Do you even know what you're doing.
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>>79002034
Transformers don't have sex because they are robots you dumbass.
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>>79002006
Don't use words you don't understand, trannie
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>>78992364
I am a drawfriend that sometimes goes to /aco/ I can sketch something yup real quick
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>>79002039
Arcee and Jack were pretty decent
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>>79002047
careful, youll ruin his fantasy about getting to fuck Strongarm
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>>79002055
Yeah, the show would have kicked ass even more if they'd toned down Miko and focused more on them
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>>79002029
/co/ is like 95+% reposts
You are going to need to go the sources for pics
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Despite the triggered-to-hell anon who freaked out over a gay joke, can't we all agree all bots are beautiful to fap to?
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>>79002059
The truly determined will find a way.
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>>79002085
nah no thank you
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>>79002091
Not really. I liked it a couple years ago, but now it feels like heresy to sexual them because of an assigned importance.
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>>79002091
fapping to robots is life
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>>79002091
>Sex robots will be a thing within the decade.
So, what will you make yours look like /co/? Will you go for more mechanical or human like appearance?

... Maybe you wanna have it look like a certain Transformer?
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>>79002147
i already knoe what i want
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>>79002147
>mechanical
I have lost the ability to find baseline humans attractive.
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>>79002147
>... Maybe you wanna have it look like a certain Transformer?

We got body pillows. It's just one step closer...
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>>79002226
>>79002172
Never understood the attraction to Knock Out. He was weak and short.
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>>79002226
...just hypothetically...where would one buy something like that?
Not hypothetically.
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>>79002003

Yeah whatever you say anon
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>>79002261
he was beautiful anon
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>>79002173
Spoiler for naughtiness.
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>>79002353
that is some kinky shit
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>>79002263
There was a Japanese site selling them a few years ago but it's been long gone. I think ebay is the only way left.
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>>79002374
>Paying scalper prices
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>>79002353
I just might, if you truly feel sorry you naughty machine.
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>>79002403
how bad do you want it
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>>79002353
Is there more like this?
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>>79002374
>>79002263

It's not down. In fact they have new pillows to sell.
http://msua.web.fc2.com/tfdaki/index.html
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>>79002047
[Citation Needed]
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>>79002564
※ dispatch to another country is not accepted. Please note.
Looks like you'd need a middle-man service.

>>79002674
It works the other way too anon: prove that they do.
We have more evidence that they don't than they do anyway so good luck with that.
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>>79002763

> Wheelie's backstory in some versions mentions his crashing on Quintessa with his parents.

>The second is more explicit: At the end of the JapaneseVictorymanga, we find out that Deathsaurusand his forces have been fighting all this time for the sake of his wife Esmeryl, the wives and sisters of the other Decepticons, and all their many children.

>Apart from this, the best case for sexual reproduction in the species could probably be made fromBeast Wars, whereRattrapmakes numerous off-color remarks throughout the series, especially directed at SilverboltandBlackarachnia. These comments strongly hint at something sex-like among Transformers, though it could, of course, be merely recreational rather than reproductive.

straight from G1. Pretty sure that trumps your headcannons.
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>>79002899
>> Wheelie's backstory in some versions mentions his crashing on Quintessa with his parents.
>>The second is more explicit: At the end of the JapaneseVictorymanga, we find out that Deathsaurusand his forces have been fighting all this time for the sake of his wife Esmeryl, the wives and sisters of the other Decepticons, and all their many children.
Neither is explicit in the slightest, nor does it mention sex.

>>Apart from this, the best case for sexual reproduction in the species could probably be made fromBeast Wars, whereRattrapmakes numerous off-color remarks throughout the series, especially directed at SilverboltandBlackarachnia. These comments strongly hint at something sex-like among Transformers, though it could, of course, be merely recreational rather than reproductive.
Mentioned already in this very thread and disproved: the shows creators have flat out said that that was humor for themselves and the older viewers, not to be taken seriously or canonically.
Sorry to burst your own headcanon and fantasies about transformers having sex. Also you used the wrong "canon".
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>>79002899
>>79003029
It always amuses me the idiots who go back to Beast Wars as their proof for Transformers and sex.
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>>79003029
>>79002899
>mfw I can't remember an old Japanese anime with giant sentient alien robots and one of them ended up getting a western robot woman pregnant. He ended up with triplets.

This is gonna bother me all night but anyways, I really wish America was more relax on shit like this.
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>>79003390
>mfw I can't remember an old Japanese anime with giant sentient alien robots and one of them ended up getting a western robot woman pregnant. He ended up with triplets.

The Brave of Gold: Goldran is what you're thinking of
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>>79003029
You realize that it never explicitly says that humans reproduce sexually in Transformers fiction either, right?

>Also you used the wrong "canon".
>being this retarded

Tumblr, please go and stay away
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>>79002763
>>79003029

He gave you reasons they did have sex. Shouldn't you be producing evidence to the contrary?
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>>79003461
Thanks anon! Now I can sleep peacefully.
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>>79003561
No problem!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dNVaN1eeCRw

Here's a clip for anyone else curious!
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>>79003474
>You realize that it never explicitly says that humans reproduce sexually in Transformers fiction either, right?
Ok then, if that's the thin grey area you need so you can get off at night, go right ahead. But I wouldn't try talking to show creators or writers and use that as your "proof".

>Tumblr, please go and stay away
Newfag please, pic very related.
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>>79003633
>Kissing scene
Oh Japan
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>>79003521
I don't actually care enough too, it's not like I'm going to change his mind so there's no point.
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>>79003521
>>78981246
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>>79003740
anime that actually exist
>guy's hand turns into a mini waifu
>a guy finds a waifu in a pop can from a vending machine
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>>79003814
its like they dont have any women there
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>>79003741

http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Reproduction#Sexual_reproduction
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>>79003741
Because...you can't?
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>>79002763
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-DYaMmjTd2o
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>>79003868
There's plenty of woman, but because they're over 30. Japan has this weird mindset about woman over that age and being unmarried has being undesirable or something along those lines.
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>>79003884
>http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Reproduction#Sexual_reproduction
every argument there was already discussed here >>79002899 and here >>79003029 and to me, lack of proof of sex among humans doesnt mean the robots have sex too and arent telling us
sex not shown in one species =/= sex not being shown in another, especially in one where it makes no sense

your link proves nothing senpai
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>>79003911
Ok.
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>>79004017
That's what I thought
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>anon trying to prove there is robot sex
>they don't realize they're trying to prove that with a 99.9% male population that means that 99.9% of that sex is gay sex
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>>79003633

this was super silly and cute.

thank you japan
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>>79004154
>implying they don't just gangbang the few females they have
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>>79004115
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>>79004189
For 4 million years Cybertron had no females. Marvel G1 continuity had no females at all. GAY SEX ANON, GAY SEXXXXXXXX
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>>79004189

nah dude, it's pretty much 99% butt stuff with other bro bots. bros bein bros.
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>>79004154
>Implying that's a bad thing
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>>79004218
I didn't say it was you crazy autistic goose
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>>79001766
I prefer:
>Unicron forces Primus to become planet
>Primus makes the 13
>Unicron gets turned into a planet
>The Oracle/Allspark make the first inhabitants of Cybertron (a.k.a. Primus)
>As time goes on the 13 are simply myths and the planet has a good sized population
>Quintessons invade and force the Cybertronians to transform into vehicles and machines as they see fit
>Uprising happens
>Now Quints are myth
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You gay-sayers shut up. They literally make babies.
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so what's the deal with this?
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>>79004211
>For 4 million years Cybertron had no females
What the canon explanation for them suddenly popping up, if there is any?
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This is the strangest waifu thread I have ever seen, or maybe it's the best.
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>>79004301
but were just going along with that one anon saying they do have sex
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>>79004301

Yeah, BUTT BABIES.
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>>79004326
it hasn't been fully revealed but its been hinted that the female types were all killed save for a small handful that made it off planet and established their own colony
those are just now starting to reappear
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>>79004303
Remember that time in Animated when Starscream made his clones and asked Slipstream,"What aspect of me are you"? and she replied,"Don't ask".

Yeah, that applies to this situation. Except all Unicron are the same Individual.
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>>79004353
I like you.
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>>79004329
The best of both worlds.
>>
Goddammit, you jackasses.

It's a multiverse.

All things are possible in it. Have your cake and eat it too. Schrodinger's cat is both dead and alive. Light is both a wave and a particle.

You want an Optimus that's just a bucket of engineered parts? We got that.
You want one with super-sleek organic bits? We got that.
You want one that can create Optimus Juniors with the concerted efforts of a specifically female robot? WE GOT THAT.

And if you want Optimatron sex, that's fine too. Shut the fuck up already, they're robots. Slap a flying dick and 20 lbs of ass and pussy on them and call it a fucking day.
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>>79004353
ROBOT BABIES!
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>>79004425
calm down man, we're past that already
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>>79004366
Oh, so they're not necessarily a late creation.

They've just been absent.
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>>79004463
best reproductive method right there, body horror trumps everything
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>>79004463
I want to see Roberts horrifying version of this but since we got to see a protoform in the comics, I guess that's not possible.
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>>79004477
right but take that with a grain of salt because they're still dancing around the past and where everyone truly came from and just why the female looking ones suddenly had a huge decrease in population
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>>79004366
There's also the whole memory issue. They either forgot about them, or thought they were a myth.
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>>79004500
There could always be more than one way to make new Cybertronians. Hold onto that hope for horror especially since Roberts is also a fan of budding.
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>>79004500
could be a leftover from an older time period? or something only the (soon to appear) Quints can initiate?
either way I'd love to see it make a come back too
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>>79004326

The G1 cartoon had females from nearly the beginning. You didn't see them often because they focused on characters that there were toys of, but they existed.

The comics did not have females, becuase Simon Furman hated the idea of "alien robots having gender" (though you might as well have the same issues with them being humanoid or speaking English.) Arcee was created in the comics by Optimus to appease a bunch of angry feminists who complained they were sexist.

Animated and Aligned/Prime/RiD all had females from the start as well.

In IDW Furman introduced "crazy trannie Arcee," who was a male robot who got forcibly sex changed to introduce gender to Cybertron. They retcon this as saying that all the women went out with the colonies or were killed, so Arcee was just a reintroduction of females to that section of the race.

There have been female Transformers for much longer than there hasn't been. There's just a very vocal (insane) subgroup of the fandom who desperately hates the idea of fembots.
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>>79004390
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>>79004565
>There's just a very vocal (insane) subgroup of the fandom who desperately hates the idea of fembots.
Mostly the Furman worshipers.
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>>79004599
theres an even worse one of Optimus and Megatron at the carnival with all their children but I can't seem to find it, pity.
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>>79004565

Why is Furman so insane when it comes to large primary-colored transforming robots? Has this ever been delved into? Is he to Transformers what Chris-chan is to Sonic?
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>>79004622
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>>79004651
he thinks that female robots dont make sense, hes said it before
you can thank him for the reason we have fewer waifus
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>>79004661
dont worry, I'm sure someone knows the one I'm talking about and will post it for you.
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>>79004651
I wouldn't go that far. More like he's the Penders to Transformers.
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>>79004565
>to introduce gender to Cybertron.
to introduce the female gender to Cybertron, male was already present. Furman doesn't know how to into gender, he had two conflicting ideas on the same page.
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>>79004706
>More like he's the Penders to Transformers.

oh god why does this make so much sense.
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>>79004604
See, I actually really liked Furman up until recently, but he's just gotten too in touch with the Tumblr side of the fandom. I didn't even hate Rewind/Chromedome and Cyclonus/Tailgate, but he's gotten much less subtle and much more pandering as time has gone on.

I think he's a good writer with some good ideas, but he seems like a bit of a pushover. I mean, look at his twitter conversations with that Tumblr chick that's obsessed with autism
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>>79004737
Do you mean Roberts?
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>>79004737
>furman
>tumblr side of the fandom. RW/CD and others

Anon.....
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>>79004737
I think you mean Roberts
Furman hates the tumblr fandom and got into a fight with Scott publicly
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>>79004817
Furman is such a grouchy little old man, I love it.
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>>79004895
hes very socially awkward and angers easily
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>>79004651
>Why is Furman so insane when it comes to large primary-colored transforming robots? Has this ever been delved into? Is he to Transformers what Chris-chan is to Sonic?

Nah, it's typical "hard sci-fi" type faggotry. "They're aliens so they shouldn't be like us," you know? He tried to make them more alien now and again, but it never took. It's hard to write stories that people can relate to when you intentionally make the characters unrelatable.

>>79004669
>he thinks that female robots dont make sense
It sort of reminds me of how Bay hates the Dinobots because they "don't make sense."


>>79004706
>>79004730
>Penders
This is an apt comparison.

Despite Furman's failings, he gave the franchise direction, made a lot of characters who they are today, and he was a boon to the whole thing for many years. It's just like Penders- for as shit as he was, it should be said that it was his idea to turn the Sonic comic from a gag comic into an action/adventure one, which is what has kept it going for all this time.

The problem with some writers is that they don't really evolve their storytelling as they go, or take things too personally,
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>>79004737
>>79004793
>>79004817

I meant Roberts. Somebody had posted something about Furman while I was typing and I had him on my mind.

>>79004737
See, I actually really liked JAMES ROBERTS up until recently, but he's just gotten too in touch with the Tumblr side of the fandom. I didn't even hate Rewind/Chromedome and Cyclonus/Tailgate, but he's gotten much less subtle and much more pandering as time has gone on.

I think he's a good writer with some good ideas, but he seems like a bit of a pushover. I mean, look at his twitter conversations with that Tumblr chick that's obsessed with autism
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>>79004692
Requesting this if anyone has it?
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>>79004895
he's a grouchy old man and looks a bit like a shaved rat heh
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>>79004954
I think after the last long tweet fiasco he started pulling back a little from the social sites. He really needs to stay away from the crazy ones and just do his own thing.
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>>79005039
he's just too polite of a guy. he still follows that one autism obsessed chick who frequently bashes on him publicly for whatever reason. it's like he feels obligated to be kind to these people even if they shit on him. i feel bad for the guy honestly.
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>>79005182
I really do think hes afraid to unfollow or block her, imagine if she killed herself ir somethibg stupid over it, i think hes worried about that because its already clear she's unstable.
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>>79005182

He can be as polite as he wants to people, but it becomes a problem when it starts affecting his writing. I don't think it's necessarily that he's getting bullied into pandering, though- I think it's that the relationships set up at the beginning of MTMTE got a lot of attention, so he's trying to recapture that.
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>>79002147
Mechanical. I want a robot not android shit.
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Fembots were a good idea for IDW until they hired a shitty writer to handle them and then hired a series of shitty artists to draw them.
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>>79004303

whose that?
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>>79006528
Truth. Airheads should have never been let inside the doors.
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>>79007089
That is Shattered Glass Primus and Gaia.

With the classicverse spin off of Marvel, Earth is revealed to be a giant robot covered in dirt, much like Prime's Unicron. However this is the long undiscovered Gaia, previously seen on a t-shirt from an unofficial con.

That's her transforming into her robot mode.
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>>79006200
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>>79001847
Personally I don't find the Quint origin makes them less alien. And I certainly prefer it to the Primus one, which seems to be the case in the majority of canon universes.

I just like the idea of emergent intelligences, and how religion would develop once they drive off their creators.

I think the best option is one where their origins are lost, where even the oldest bots weren't online when the first cities had rusted over.

Where they find ancient ruins, and ascribe them to god like creators. They see the Great Dome of Iacon, filled with glittering spires, and to them it was obviously once the home of the gods (with how many of them depending on if they're Primalist, Unicronist, Handist, or any number of other faiths)

The Well of All Sparks, the most holy spot on Cybertron, rather than being where Solus Prime met her fate and melted to the core, is more likely a Hot Spot, certainly the oldest, if not the first. It's just been mined over the aeons, removing every trace of spark and Cybermatter.
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>>79006200
Yeah, I don't understand how anyone can find synthetic skin and hair attractive.
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So, in the wake of all this Strongarmposting, is RiD finally worth watching, or in the end is it still another soulless children's show with no spark of creativity?
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>>78981088
A g1 canon has the Qs making them. Why is that so hard to get. Do people confuse btas canon with comics canon too?
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>>79009239
>is it still another soulless children's show with no spark of creativity?
This.
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>>79004622
>>79004692
>>79004995

Is this the one that you were talking about?
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>>79009315
No actually I don't think it is. Not enough pregnancy.
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>>79003029
These robots turn into functional vehicles with laser guns and whatever kind of rotating or glowing melee weapons they want. To think they couldn't make a penis, vagina, ass hole or mouth and tie pleasing sensations to it after all that is naive. They might not NEED to have sex, but I bet they DO. Whether or not it leads to children is another subject entirely. Just because family shows never show penetration doesn't mean there isn't (it also doesn't mean there is) but if they don't have sex in a biological sense they probably have some kind of digital plug sex instead.
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>>79009315
Kids are purple and silver with Dec symbol...they going to murder Optimom...
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>>79009299
There's still that comic, though, right?
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>>78997245
Never had a robot fetish until I watched Transformers Prime and saw Arcee.
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>>79009881
Actually, although you can't see it, that Optimus has purple Autobot symbols, just as the Megatron has a red Decepticon one. Because those are the shattered glass versions. So the Megs is good, and the Op is evil.

Of course, now they're Nova Prime and Galvatron, and both are good.
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>>79009917
There's currently around 5 comics, set in 3 continuities.

There's the RID comic, which is basically the same as the show.

There's the 3 or so IDW comics. MTMTE, EX-RID, and whatever has Windblade in at the moment.

Then there's Transformers vs GI Joe.
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>>79010092
>Of course, now they're Nova Prime and Galvatron, and both are good.

Ok now I am confused...

how shatered glass works?
I only have read the cliffjumper one where he switches dimensions, but now you say that they are both good, how did that happened...
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>>79002147
>Sex robots will be a thing within the decade.

They're already working to make that against the law now.
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>>79010548
I don't know much about the SG universe but I'm going to assume that Prime died and turned into a zombie (sorta like Nemesis Prime) and became good because of it.
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>>78981088
I'm sad Strongarm is the ONLY Good-Looking Transformer in a hentai doujin I can fap to. Everyone else pales in comparison.
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>>79011111
That's probably because there's very few good ones to begin with
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>all these strongarm fags

There is only one true hottest fembot
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>>79011460
>implying I don't want to lovingly cuddle with all the fembots
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>>79011460
in the Jap dub they made her a Pepe/Fifi type character that chased after jack and wanted to /ss/ him
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>>79011511
And they say Japan doesn't respect women. That's hilarious.
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>>79000781
>British equivalent of the Botcon comic
Who where
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>>79011460
Wrong spider-bot, anon.
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>>79009315
Thats not it but thank you for trying.
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>>79009783
you sound like the horsefuckers explaining how its possible for humans to have sex with ponies
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Well...it is possible for humans to have sex with ponies
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>>79012081

Oh wow now i am curious
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>>79011460
>Alleged mass murderer that has killed entire planets before
>Is smaller than the generic cars and gets beaten in a fight by an even smaller being with less limbs regularly
Airachnid is an embarrassment to her race and should commit ritual suicide
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>>79003633
>tfw you're giant robot husbando will never have kids with you

I didn't ask for this feel
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>>79012979
Or the planets/people she killed were just that shitty. Imagine what we could be capable of if we found aliens/alien planet with a weaker gravity than Earth. Think of it like Superman, on his actual planet he's ordinary, but on Earth he's like a god.
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Do people even like Bumblebee?

In recent years, I realize I like it better when he's not around, and from what I've observed, it feels as though he's only always around because whoever's making the cartoon feels he's "necessary."
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>>79013644
There is always a yellow kid guy
Bumblebee is just the most common flavor
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>>79010548
Prime got dumped out of SkyLynx by Rodimus, met up with Shattered Glass Unicron.

Since (post singularity) SG Unicron is a good guy, he rcleared out Prime's head of his insanity when giving him an upgrade. Prime is now good (although still not exactly nice), along with his minions, the Knights of Unicron.
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>>79013644
I like bumblebee as long as he looks like a silly guy, it's really cute and makes you think about bees.
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>>79013644

How about fuck you, Bumblebee is rad. Bumblebee is best boy.
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>>79012979
Yeah uh...she can also create slave soldiers. Pawns don't win wars, the people who move them do.

She's also still the absolute hottest either way
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>mfw MTMTE will now have letters pages
Because what possibly could go wrong, rite?
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>>79013644
You see the problem with Bumblebee is he's obviously an Acolyte of Unicron. Just look at his horns and bright yellow colouration.

This is why he works as a scout, long hours away from base, little contact with the more... devoted primalists amongst the Autobots. This is despite the fact that the branch of Unicronism he follows treats the Devourer as a metaphorical figure of liberation. Not as an actual divine entity. They use his iconography, such as the devouring maw as symbols of them rejecting Primus' covenant.

Naturally, with this "no, fuck you dad" attitude, it's no wonder he gets on well with human teenagers.
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>>79015624
It had letters pages in the past too, up through the 2nd season when they weren't getting enough letters to continue it. Everything went fine, but they were screening what they posted too. How new are you?
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>>79015832
Well viewcomics.com didn't have the letters pages, how was I to know.
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>>79015950
Don't make smug statements about things you don't know about then maybe? But yes it's pretty well known the letters pages ran up until just after the original annual came out when fewer and fewer people were writing in and they discontinued it. They're only bringing it back now as a special deal for the 50th. It should go just fine as long as the screen out all the autists.
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>>79014036
Huh i think I'll read that
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>>79015600
Insecticons became Stormtroopers tier after a few episodes. Like after "The Strongest" and Hardshell died there was no attempting to pretend they were still effective units.
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>>79012148

literally canon

sorry your headcannons were proved wrong, tumblrista trannie
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>>79003814
My favorite is the Shinki one, with tiny robot waifus that are more or less glorified tamagatchi with tits.
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>>79011511
This is why I'm super-salty at the lack of an Airachnid doujinshi. All the set-up is fucking done for you in the canon!
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>>79000781
Roberts was actually a part of the fan group who wrote said comics, though mostly it was his unauthorized fan-novel, Eugenesis.
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>>79017967

...I want to see this.

>>79017971
>This is why I'm super-salty at the lack of an Airachnid doujinshi.

There's not even an Airachnid toy!
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Are we talking about pregnant transformers?
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>>79017831
Not a sexual relationship.
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>>79016496
Hook me up with a link too if you can find scans.
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>>79018056
NOW we are!
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>>79018056
Why are these "artists" wholly incapable of anatomy.
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>>79015815
That's.... actually interesting and pretty well thought-out for fanon.
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>>79018045
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Busou_Shinki_(anime)
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>>79018144
Some folks are into hyper proportions.
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>>79018045
Sure there is! Only it's just Legion class.
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>>79018144
>Implying robots can get pregnant in the first place
Literally the whole thing doesn't exist
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>>79018144

Tell me what's wrong with the anatomy
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>>78981088
man, I wanna do lewd things to Strongarm
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>>78996763
she needs more lewds.
someone should start requesting her on /aco/
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>>79019418
Just gotta make her our flavor of the week again.
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>>79018146
That's what I try for, so thanks.


Also for more fun, the back of Bumblebee's head/back of his vehicle mode. Fan, or unicronian maw?

(obviously the former)
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>>79002147
I'll save all my dosh to get a bunch of them!
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>>79018098
[citation needed]
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>>79019696
Not even the same planet of lifeforms, much less domain or kingdom. Not compatible.
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>>78994655

There's a bunch depending on continuity. Current IDW has it that organics hate robotic life because their wars fuck everything up for millions of years. Megatron's cons taking over other worlds with infiltration makes Cybertronians particularly hated.
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>>78999826
>>79000648
>i don't understand the appeal of robots with jiggly breasts
I like it when sexy robots have tits/ass/any other "fleshy" bits that look and act like they're made of thick rubber or some sort of pliant plastic around some sort of viscous jell
Like, they're not hard and ridged but they're as soft as flesh, won't jiggle around but you can press into them, and look like something that could belong on a machine
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>>79011460
Worst toy.
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>>79020458
You

I like you
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>>79021542
Indeed, lit'rully has a meme VA.
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>>79021695
I don't get this meme.
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>>79011511
>in the Jap dub they made her a Pepe/Fifi type character that chased after jack and wanted to /ss/ him

Honestly, I'm more disturbed how easily a slasher movie parody turns into a Pepe Le Pew parody just by changing the dialogue.

>http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xrq51s_tfp-ep12_shortfilms

Although god DAMN Japanese Airachnid's voice actress is annoying as hell.
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>>79022102
Sex and killing are the same thing.
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>>79022102
>>http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xrq51s_tfp-ep12_shortfilms

Wow, that was... not what I wanted. At all.

Airarchnid trying to /ss/ Jack to death should have been way more arousing than that. Instead it was just... irritating. Why do none of the characters ever stop TALKING? Like, nobody in that dub would shut up for five seconds even when their lips weren't moving in a freakin' closeup.

I didn't know 4Kids had a Japanese division.
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>>79022102
Japanese Transformers media almost always sucks

>>79021695
>>>/toy/

paranoid fucker. i recognize your posting style
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>>79020458
>but they're as soft as flesh
Meant to say not as soft as flesh

>>79021661
Thanks, I don't get why it's not more common, I mean there are more things that go in machines than just metal
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>>79022303

Japanese Transformers Prime is a baby show. They even cut out the ending because it was too dark; the show just ends with all the characters smiling and waving at the camera.
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>>79022326
Like what?
Seats? Plastic?
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>>79022102
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>>79022102
>>79022303
>>79022311
>>79022369

Well, I guess it's good to know the Japanese dub American cartoons as badly as we dub anime.

Cuz fuck that video holy shit that was awful.
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>>79022454

Yes. Seats, plastic, coolant and fuel tanks, airbags, rubber. I mean right now we have all those Japanese robots that are covered with rubberized skin. And when you look to sci-fi, there's stuff like Star Trek Voyager's CPUs being biological gel packs.
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Y'know.
Considering the general on /toy/ is a bunch of retarded manbabies complaining about lack of G1 accuracy or whining at the 3rd party guys for having more money, and the generals here are just....fucking creepy at best...

What the fuck about the fans who just want to talk about the old cartoons or whatever? Christ even /m/ can have a more solid discussion without devolving into tumblr antics and/or fetish shit.
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>all that discussion about gay robots and genders
Is this what you guys do all the time?
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>>79022762
Those hang out on Facebook.
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>>79022762

Because the primary source of Transformers fiction at the moment (the IDW comic) is all about pushing that LGBTQ shit.

>Transgender Transformers
>Transsexual Transformers
>Homosexual Transformers

Jesus, Roberts. Did you miss any?
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>>79022800
Sometimes there is Beast Wars roleplaying while posting real-life gorillas, rhinos, and cheetahs.
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>>79022838
Swear to god I picked up MTMTE because of the DJD and was not disappointed, even the scavengers were a fantasically fun thing to read about. And then after Dark Cybertron it just....good god. I mean, all the gayness was lightly implied before that and now it's just all LOOK AT IT. Was even insanely hyped for Sakamoto drawing a chapter or two to at least get the cutest possible incarnation of Tailgate, and instead with Roberts' assistance, manages to make some of the scariest most edgelord badasses into a bunch of pussy faggots wanting to broker peace with traitors and just.....christ. It all started out so good, how did it get so bad?
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>>79004301

>literally make babies

Clever anon.

>>79004500

The way he describes it in Eugenesis is amazing. Budding is cool.

>>79004535

I think it's totally still possible to happen, in a way. Budding can be a new thing. OR as I suspect, matrix-bleeding is sort of an analogy for it. Sort of.

>>79004737

Yeah he's gotten a bit self-indulgent. I think that's because he doesn't really hear from other fans than the more obsessed ones. I recommend writing to him.
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>>79023033
The DJD were designed to be hypocritical. You were not paying attention during the earlier issues.
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>>79022762
>Christ even /m/ can have a more solid discussion without devolving into tumblr antics and/or fetish shit.
That's because /m/ doesn't give a fuck about tumblr or any of that stuff. Literally best board on 4chan.
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>>79023190
Isn't /m/ the one that gets off to Gundam Seed and pretty toku boys?
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>>79021542
Worst toy? Nah.

One of em yeah, and in either case hottest fembot.
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>>79022762
>Considering the general on /toy/ is a bunch of retarded manbabies complaining about lack of G1 accuracy or whining at the 3rd party guys for having more money
That's very Tumblr of you, but I've never seen that happen on /toy/. Most of the time it's the turds shitposting about how much they hate hasbro.

>and the generals here are just....fucking creepy at best...
That's what happens when you give Tumblr free reign.

>What the fuck about the fans who just want to talk about the old cartoons or whatever? Christ even /m/ can have a more solid discussion without devolving into tumblr antics and/or fetish shit.

You answered your own question. Either /m/ or /toy/. On /m/ you can talk about the fiction without shitposters telling you to come here, but /toy/ is still pretty good sometimes.

>>79022838
What I think that's funny is that he was so busy filling his book with fags that he forgot to make any straight couples.

>>79023033
I'm so glad I'm not the only one who saw DC as the turning point for the series. A whole bunch of Tumblr girls got obsessed with the book because of the gender shit, so now it feels like the whole book has become about gender. If you're not a Women's Studies major its pretty eyerolling.

>>79023093
>Yeah he's gotten a bit self-indulgent. I think that's because he doesn't really hear from other fans than the more obsessed ones. I recommend writing to him.

But anybody writing in is just going to get shrugged off because "putting LGBTBBQ characters in media is ~important!!" It's an insulated bubble and there's no way to pierce it.

>>79023190
This.
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>>79023093
>The way he describes it in Eugenesis is amazing. Budding is cool.

If you have to read the author's fanfic that he wrote 20 years ago in order to follow the plot in the official comic...

The comic is shit.

The writer is shit.
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>>79020458

This. I can't get off to robots with soft parts unless they make some sort of sense.

>>79022800

Way too often because there's constantly newfags who need things explained/debated to them.

>>79023033

They are still edgelords despite relaxing sometimes and knowing how to operate.

>>79023356

So writing in doesn't matter? I think it does. JRo is all about hearing from /everyone/, and just planting the ideas there works. If you want to let him know what you like, tell him. Sure not everything will get published, but it will get read.

>>79023429

Wut. You don't need to do that? There's no budding in the comics.
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>>79022800
Just the days that end in day.
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>>79023190
Considering it's my home board, I can't argue that. Just that since it's been years since a genuinely good show we can all be excited about has aired, there's not much to talk about save the 80's threads. Maybe if the old fansubbing team of tripfags gets back together again.

>>79023483
Giving them PDP's was a step too far. I read comics to get away from my work life.

>>79023314
Power Hug man.
>POWER
>HUG

>>79023356
To be fair, Combiner Wars has been the most polarizing shit I've seen in ages. The only thing everyone seems to agree on is that Rook is best limb. It's still the best forum on the net to talk about transformers since you can actually speak your mind without getting banned for not shilling, but it's still a fucking unfriendly place compared to the 3PG.
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>>79023769

>Giving them PDP's was a step too far. I read comics to get away from my work life.

Heh, that's a subjective complaint I definitely can understand. The point was though that Tarn seems to be very bureaucratic, so that reinforced the point.

Still, I feel like #39 was a peek issue, and the next time we see DJD in Dying of the Light, it'll be the stuff you want to see.
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>>79023241
/m/ is the one that hates Gundam SEED and has only half a dozen gay retards that like pretty toku boys.
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>>79023910
Hopefully. I'm a fairly big fan of Victory as well so seeing Brestforce and Dinoking in action will be amazing if it happens. Just that at this point I'm expecting to be massively disappointed. Virtually every plotline that was interesting ages ago has been resolved and characters like Hound and Hot Spot that have been part of the crew since the beginning haven't even had more than a single line. At this point with the introduction of new, boring characters, it feels like MTMTE has passed its' peak by a considerable degree. Only crew members left that I even care about are Rodimus and Ten.
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>>79023314
>Retrax
>Worst toy

You fucking faggot. You need to remember it was a different time, and there are a lot of older Transformers with much worse gimmicks. His bug mode is fucking amazing.

>>79023769
>To be fair, Combiner Wars has been the most polarizing shit I've seen in ages.

I'll agree on that. I think Combiner Wars has been pretty good, but it's brought in a hell of a lot of shitposting since Combiners have been the bread and butter of 3P for a long time now. Especially with Devestator, there's a lot of guys who feel like their purchases have been invalidated by the existence of official low cost alternatives.

I really should start a thread over on /m/.
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>>78981088
We need to move this to /h/ , is imperative more transformers hentai
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>>78999954

>Dat waist.

Every time.
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>>79024776
I just want more femtransformer on human, I'm tired of so many gay robots
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>>79025421
Only boy transformers like humans. Closest otherwise were momzoned.
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>>79011511
>>79022102

Fun Fact: Airachnid in the Japanese dub is voiced by non other than Ryoka Yuzuki, Lady Satsuki from Kill la Kill.
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>>79025421
It's happened a few times, like with Powerglide or Ironhide and his GF in the old comics.

Best be careful about saying you want straight people in comics, though. You'll summon THEM

>>79024776
>/h/
>>/aco/313940
/aco/ is the home of Transformers lewds.

>>79025692
>yfw Rattrap's great aunt is Arcee
>yfw his great uncle is Daniel
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>>79023769

I love the CW stuff. Yeah, it's a bit repaint heavy, but EVERY incarnation of Transformers shat out repaints by the dozen anyway. The individual combiner teams all have their own quirks, but for the quality and the price, the line is amazing. The only "meh" combiner in the whole line is Motormaster/Prime, and only because their first releases had bad hip ratchets, and even without the first release, they're very top heavy compared to the others whose weight is distributed more evenly, putting them in less danger of doing a header off your shelf into brokesville.

And despite all that he's STILL at least a solid C+, maybe B- toy. Very much worth owning.
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>>79025421

I just want more variety. There's already several straight ships, CybertronianxCamien and other worlds. Even the gay Cyb pairs go along the lines of small gay and big gay, which is sort of stereotypy (but based on a real dynamic).

So I'm hoping for a gay cybertronianxcamien pairing, more lesbians, and all sorts of TF x human ones.

Right now in the comics we have most hope for Stakeout and Verity.

>>79025811

Straight people are alright, it's just that IDW TFs are supposed to be gay so it's kind of weird to have so many of them be suddenly straight. Balance, man.
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>>79022454
Basically what >>79022686 said, firm but squishy rubber or plastic

>>79025692
>momzoned
FemTransformer X human /ss/ and MILFdom when?

>>79025811
>It's happened a few times, like with Powerglide or Ironhide and his GF in the old comics.
I meant Female transformer X male human
You see some Male transformer on female human but almost no actual smut of female transformer X male human
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>>79028050
It is like that Human Male VS Reploid chart. Human male is less desirable in everything, but with "Taller than 7 feet" and "has a secondary mode" added.
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>>79028226
I am unfamiliar with said chart
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>>79028279
Go ask in /mmg/ on /vg/ then
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>>79028050
Eh, there's been a lack of females in Transformers for a long time in general, since it exists to sell toys.

That said, Jack x Arcee was not-so-subtly played with in Prime.
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>>79023033
>and now it's just all LOOK AT IT
The idea of Roberts flagging down random passers-by with blown-up panels of pairings made me chuckle.
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>>79000245
Kinky
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>>>/m/13745237

Transformers thread on /m/
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>>78981088
This assumes they "breed" and don't just build new robots with the builder/previous generation denoted as the parent.

Regardless, the offspring will be whatever faction they're denoted as by their builder(s), which could be neither faction, or a new faction, or either faction. And at a later point, the offspring may choose to change factions. It's like religion.
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>>79028793
>That said, Jack x Arcee was not-so-subtly played with in Prime
Not a whole lot.
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>>79009281
Yes. They often do actually. But to be fair, comics canon changes quite a lot. Cartoon canon has its inconsistencies, but are surprisingly consistent given that they're mostly episodic.
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>>79018045
>>>79017967
>...I want to see this.
The TV series is actually pretty decent. Although the obligatory fanservice episode was meh.
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I'm surprised no one has brought up Kiss Players, but I guess Prime getting molested by women doesn't count as reproduction.
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>>78990999
Didn't Animated also have a caste system? Like Autobot weapons were either designed to be non-lethal or were mainly utility based, and in addition to being airborne, most Decepticons towered over Autobots.
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>>79020010
Well it is true, they take their shit to others and wreck stuff and Earth managed to push back and still they won't go.
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>>79001669
Perhaps it's because I was raised on old American sci-fi from Doc Smith, Asimov, and the like but I actually prefer the Quintesson origin. When you think about it what it more impressive? An inanimate machine race gaining sapience, freeing themselves from servitude, and then through untold ages developing some kind of silicon soul while forging, building, and forgetting entire theologies and cultures to get us to the Cybertronian we have today or that giant robot space god decided that he wanted to take a nap and grew some mechs to fight his fight for him.
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>>78981088
>Now what about an Autobot and a Human?
I guess it only happened in G1 but IDW wise aside from friendships and some need to protect their human companions I don't see much of anything happening beyond that.

Doesn’t mean they can't form a meaningful bond, Verity managed to win over a lot of bots as we have seen in the Wreckers series and even Magnus has her as his avatar because he cares about her a lot, and the moment she passes it's going to be really heartbreaking.

That said I watched reruns of G1 when I was a kid and I always liked Spike and Bee's friendship in G1 even later on when Spike got old they were always together and I felt that even after he Spike is gone Bee was going to watch over his Daniel and then Daniel's kids and so on just because Spike lived on through them.

But that's about it, nothing sexual though, Cybertronians would probably find sex to be very gross.
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>>79033119
>I guess it only happened in G1
Also Jack and Arcee being subtextual as fuck.
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>>79033194

The moment Jack's mother entered the scene, it instantly killed whatever was going on between them.
Pity, since it would have been interesting to see them go a bit deeper into the human x bot thing.
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>>79032507
Kiss Players is borderline pedo and no I don't care if they made the girls be in their twenties they are drawn like they were 6.

I have yet to meet someone who likes Kiss Players, it's creepy.
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>>79033243
>>79033119

HoomanXrobbit never going to happen in a kids show beyond the barest hinting and/or fan shipping.

The comics could possibly go further, in the same way theres suddenly homosexual robots because they're meant for an older audience and I guess Hasbro isn't very hardassed with policing the content of the comics, which is a good thing, because overzealous policing can kill a series when the owning company steps in to shit everything up.

Then again, the gay robots could potentially be a corporate attention grab/initiative, in the same way Marvel/DC has been attempting (and failing, always failing) to do, with the same levels of success (ie: complete fucking failure) because they always fail to account that the people who bitch about "muh equality" don't pay attention to or buy this shit beyond "omg sum1 tweeted about it #lbgtwtfbbq".
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>>79033357
Yeah, I think Marissa is actually 25 or something... but you'd never tell by looking.
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Ah yes, the majestic space duck.
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>>79003633
I like how she went all bitchy after having the kids but he gotta be a reaponsible dad.
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>>79004189
They don't have sex in the ExRiD Galvatron is surprised about Spike being General Witwicky's son and goes "a method of procreation, how cute"

Then there's also pic related a Femaxian trying to bone Cloudburst pretending to be a male Femaxian and his reaction to her trying to seduce him.

Cybertronians derive pleasure from other things but not boning, you probably have more sucess washing them or polishing their metal body than trying to insert your penis on their holes or have them shive their finger up your butt or whatever.
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So, is Soundwave's "Rip out Spark to Place in Minicon" thing something only he can do?
you think that'd be super useful in a war
>OH NO! TINPIN RECEIVED CRITICAL DAMAGE!
>oh wait nevermind I transferred his spark to a new body
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>>79033520
Honestly I don't want humanxbot to go beyond flirting and the suggestive, otherwise it gets weird and into creepy Kiss Players shit.

Like this, this is fine, you know what it is but it doesn't really go beyond her driving him.
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>>79034078
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>>79034078
even that requires either shipper goggles or horny teenager goggles to see
reminds me of the tumblr bitches who see two characters together in the same panel and ship them because of it
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>>79034121
Really? It was kind of obvious to me that the whole thing was like a metaphor of her taking his virginity hence the "you never been driven before? That's so sweet" and Bee's hesitation and nervousness until she drives him and they defeat Rumble and he likes it a lot. Then in another panel Iron hide tells her about Bumblebee wanting to see her but by that time Scarlett is too deep on the Snake Eyes angstying to even care about anything else.
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>>79034361
eh, I get what you mean but its vague enough I dont notice it unless its dissected
you really only see it if you want to
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>>79010828
Can't take away the one real leverage females have over men. Especially now when you don't even have to be married to one to adopt and surrogate mothers are a thing.
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Women are bad, everyone should become a gay robot.
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>>79032621
The caste system was separate to the Autobot/Decepticon thing. Not withstanding the ridiculous timeline from the almanacs.

>>79033520
>HoomanXrobbit never going to happen in a kids show beyond the barest hinting and/or fan shipping.
Weeeeell, technically it's possible for them to have offspring. (See Sari being a hybrid of Sumdac's DNA with a protoform) So it's theoretically possible.
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>>79036407
This.
Making them comply to human gender roles is absurd.
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Posting in ded bread
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>>79037529
No I mean in real life.
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>>79039988
No
Fembots, everyone should become fembots
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>>79042451
Everyone should become elegant curved robots with no preferred gender and a lot a built in weaponry.
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>>79042649
>elegant curved robots with no preferred gender and
Have the bodies be mostly feminine and I agree
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