Not to sound like a hippy or anything but how damn hard is it

peanuts is not the same as dragon ball z
like, not even close

>>78968839
They both have heroes who face odds that are always stacked against them.

Goku has his enemies.

Charlie has that damn football.

>>78968839
This wasn't supposed to be a comparison.

I agree with op

/r/ing a DBZ version of the first peanuts strip

>>78969472

>Come on, Charlie Brown: let's do a fusion dance!
>Oh, no you don't! Not this time! I know the second I try to fuse with you, you'll pull away at the last second and it'll come out wrong.

/co/ is the only board that actually likes both anime and cartoons.
It's fucking suicide trying to talk about cartoons outside of /co/, since a wall of anime shitposters will appear.

>>78969472
>Well! Here comes ol' Kakarot! Good ol' Kakarot... yes sir! Good ol' Kakarot... I WISH TO DESTROY HIM!

>>78968206
Most people on /co/ have at least a couple of animes they enjoy, but weaboos won't touch anything that isn't made in glorious Nippon.

>>78968206
the problem is there's a bunch of pressure and controversy and shit.. People cannot get along as long as ANYONE feels deprived from getting anything they want. As long as there's a show that was canceled for being unprofitable or not fitting the desired demographics.. that puts us in direct competition with each other. There's nothing we can do about it.

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>>78968839

Because weeboos are fucking even more autistic when it comes to their hobby and elitism.

When was the last time you heard a girl come in to school wearing a full super hero get up because it was super hero friday?

>>78972012
Spotted the elitist. /co/ is the one ranting about anime and claiming that every single animation from a country that produces an absurd amount of them is shit.

>>78970061
I like animation independently from where it comes from

>>78968206
I don't know why distinction exists and who the hell says "you must choose". Nothing stops me from reading a bit of Kaiji after reading a bit of Daredevil.

>>78971761
Fuck that spider bitch!

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>>78968206
I like both. Started reading manga back when they were still doing flopped single issues. Sorta went full weeb in the early 00s but the sudden near-death of the American anime industry in 2006 left me just reading manga and only watching the occasional animu.

>>78968839
>Implying

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>>78976837
In short I like comics no matter where they're from and don't mind a cartoon now and then.

I think the only friction comes from the "GLORIOUS NIPPON" crowd.

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>>78968839
Good Grief

>>78971761
Anime?

>>78968206
my sister loves anime and I prefer western cartoons and we get along fine

99% of the animosity comes from Western comic and cartoon fans, against fans of anime and manga.

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American animation is objectively inferior to anime. Vastly inferior. This is mainly because it's almost entirely restricted to children's entertainment and adult comedy, and it does even those things in a very limited way.

The only problem I have with all this is when people try to argue that American animation (or Western animation at large) is equivalent to or better than anime. It's like arguing that Japanese movies have production values equivalent to or better than Hollywood's, except it's even more wrong.

How damn hard is it to stop making weeb threads on /co/? There's like five other boards for you, geez.

>>78968206
Because of the whole "anime and manga are for mature people" stigma and being afraid to call them cartoons, so they label them and are in constant fear of being call out as juvenile or dumb. The truth is everything is animation, it's the same art form, and as for myself, if I had to make a top 10 list, there would've been both western and weeb shit, along with some euro stuff.

>>78979320
It's incorrect to call anime cartoons. They are two different things. Cartoon is also used by most people to mean something childish, trivial and simple, which is inapplicable to anime, and it's frequently invoked as an insult to attack anime. Anti-anime activists always make sure to call anime cartoons or children's cartoons.

It's also not quite right to say that anime and cartoons are the same art form, as the only thing they have in common is that they are animation.

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>>78979391

>>78979413
Yeah, great argument. You sure showed me.

>>78979391
Stop being ashamed of enjoying cartoons, you are on the comics and cartoons board of 4chan.

>>78979456
Sorry anon, I thought it was a pasta/bait. I'll get on with the argument then.

What do you define as an art form in the first place? Do you use the colloquial term, or just shitting around?

>>78979491
As I just said, anime and cartoons are not the same thing.

>>78979493
As I just said, the only thing cartoons and anime have in common is that they are animated. At the most basic technical level they are the same thing, but it's misleading to talk about them as the same artform considering the huge differences they have.

>>78968206
>Peanuts
Good shit
>DBZ
shit

Get some taste before you try to mend divides, sincerely /a/.

>>78979510
>As I just said, the only thing cartoons and anime have in common is that they are animated. At the most basic technical level they are the same thing, but it's misleading to talk about them as the same artform considering the huge differences they have.

Animation itself is an art form. There's nothing different between them Both 2d and 3d use the same principles. Country of origin doesn't apply to art, hence it doesn't apply to animation.

>>78979533
>Get some taste before you try to mend divides, sincerely /a/.

Then stay in your containment board, weeb shit

>>78979552
As I just said, they are the same at the most basic technical level. And that's it. Everything else is vastly different.

And country of origin definitely applies here. Anime is highly distinct from other forms of animation.

>>78979574
>containment board
You mean /co/? Because /a/ was here first. Not surprising considering the whole site was created to talk about anime.

>>78979574
>likes DBZ that much
Are you afraid of America's wall by any chance mexifriend?

>>78977416
Zetsubo-sensei

>>78979589
>As I just said, they are the same at the most basic technical level. And that's it. Everything else is vastly different.
>And country of origin definitely applies here. Anime is highly distinct from other forms of animation.

Then you don't know what the term art form means. Visual art applies to animation. Art is something universal. Just because there's a bunch of animators that work on a slave wages doesn't mean it's superior in any way.

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>>78979645
>spoonfeeding in a thread bait people to bitch about anime

>>78979646
How about addressing what I said:
>As I just said, they are the same at the most basic technical level. And that's it. Everything else is vastly different.

>Just because there's a bunch of animators that work on a slave wages doesn't mean it's superior in any way.
At no point did I say or imply that anime is superior because of low wages. What are you talking about? Also, I hope you realize that American productions are typically outsourced to Asian countries where the wages are at best on the same level as in Japan.

>>78977416
Charlie Brown you dolt. Y'know how Nips love Nipponize Western cartoons.

>>78979645
Seriously, kill yourself.

>>78968206
>who can draw the biggest dick here?
Selrock.

>>78979711
Then it escapes me in what rational way so you see Japanese animation as something superior to the rest of the world? Because you keep quoting yourself and I can't find anywhere in this thread a sane argument. Call it a reading comprehension, so help a retard out.

>>78979761
Anime is made according to the idea that animation has no limitations and can even tell the same stories cinema does using the same techniques. It doesn't have to be just for children, and even when it is for children it doesn't have to be childish or oversimplified.

The animation, character design, background art, cinematography, writing, music, sound design, voice acting and genre/subject matter diversity etc. in anime are superior to Western animation (or American animation, which is what we're really talking about 99% of the time).

>>78979510
Yeah, they're about as different as comic books and graphic novels.

We're all nerds here, anon. There's no need for this.

>>78979837
Anime is made according to what children or obsessive nerds want

You are really overstating the dedication people have to the medium

>>78979837
That's limited only to some of the works, not the whole medium. Sorry you're so deluded that non of those things matter to western animation and if you're going to state they're not explored at their fullest then there's a lot more that you need to watch.

>>78979755
he asked a question, it is only polite courtesy to answer.

>>78979885
They are fundamentally different. They have nearly nothing in common. This is simply fact.

>>78979892
Anime has different target demographics. Children, girls, boys, men, women, adults. Late night anime comprises most anime today, and it's not meant for children.

>You are really overstating the dedication people have to the medium
If anything, I understated it. You are probably just projecting your own apathy towards animation onto the Japanese.

>>78979947
Yeah, no. This isn't my first time to the rodeo, and I know from much prior experience that apologists of Western animation are highly deluded about its range and quality compared to anime. Either because of nationalism, or a lack of familiarity with anime. Or both.

you know, /co/ and /a/ are both shit. is that why you guys can't get along? because there is someone out there exactly like you?

>>78979990
>Anime has different target demographics. Children, girls, boys, men, women, adults. Late night anime comprises most anime today, and it's not meant for children.

woah easy there, you are going way to fast for /co/

all we understand is "Pre-schoolers" "kids" and "Not-family guy" cartoons.

>>78979250
why are you on /co/

>>78979990
Sorry anon, didn't know you were 13

>>78980046
What did I say that would make you think I'm 13?

>>78980046
>cartoon and comics are for adults.

I'll remember that the next time a gwen thread pops up.

>>78979990
why are you on /co/ if you hate western animation?

>>78980083
>>78980035
>people can't be on /a/ and /co/

is there some rule that says you can only be on one shit board?

>western cartoon lovers
You mean American cartoon lovers. Practically nobody here gives a shit about anything else.

>>78980035
>>78980083
Why does Western animation need to be confined in a safe space bubble where anime doesn't exist?

>>78979079
Not true, by the way

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>>78968206
Because they're weeaboos, you retard. They're called that not because they like eastern animation, but because they adore it to a point of unreasoning. Don't use words when you don't know what they mean.
There are plenty of people who are "western cartoon lovers" that respect eastern animation, and there are people who adore anime that respect western animation. Even among the creators of these works, this respect is apparent, with many things of western animation borrowing and adapting things from eastern animation, and likewise the other way around.
You're the dumbass here.

>>78980110
and even then "western on /co/" just means non-japanese...we even speak about korean cartoons here.

>>78980135
/co/ is for discussing western animation. Why would someone who doesn't like western animation post here?

>>78979990
The simple fact is that you are not be emotionally honest with yourself about what you like and that isn't healthy.

Tokyo Godfathers is one of my favorite movies of all time. Tokyo Godfathers is a cartoon. The fact that it is a cartoon does not make it inherently less mature than any other type of movie.

>>78980069

Because of console wars shit like this >>78980079
Would've said the same thing if you had stated that western animation is superior. It's bad enough that people label animation as a genre and dividing it like that is even worse.

>>78980152
anybody of the Kenji post.

>>78980156
Again, why does Western animation need to be confined in a safe space bubble where anime doesn't exist? That's what this is really about. When Western animation comes into contact with anime, its flaws become very apparent. And you don't want that.

>>78980161
Again, anime and cartoons are two different things. That is the only simple fact here.

>>78980162
>Because of console wars shit like this >>78980079
Not my post.

>It's bad enough that people label animation as a genre and dividing it like that is even worse.
How could it not be divided? Western/American animation and anime are completely different.

>>78980229
>When Western animation comes into contact with anime, its flaws become very apparent. And you don't want that.
I don't care about that. I don't get why someone who hates Western animation would waste his time on /co/.

>>78980154
Well, yeah, tons of American cartoons are Korean cartoons in disguise.

>>78980156
>/co/ is for discussing western animation
no, it's for discussion of anything non-japanese. we have had discussions of eastern animation
Hell, France is in the eastern hemisphere, and we been have Lolirock and Miraculous Ladybug deiscussion.

>>78980229
>Not my post

But you're saying the same fucking shit.
>>78979990
>and I know from much prior experience that apologists of Western animation are highly deluded about its range and quality compared to anime

But whatever. Enjoy your grown ups anime and graphic novels.

>>78980297
you should have stopped taking him seriously when he said "anti-anime activists"

>>78980269
I never said I hate it.

>>78980297
>But you're saying the same fucking shit.
The reality is that in America almost all animation is either children's entertainment or adult comedy. It's a little more diverse in the West at large, but not by much.

>>78980321
Anti-anime activists exist, so why wouldn't I mention them?

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This is clearly a bait thread, so can I get some dubs?

>>78980363
check these

>>78980363
>>78980368
bow to me

I just don't like Manga or anime, not my taste. The only Manga I liked was Osamu Tezuka's Buddha and Blackjack.

>>78980289
>France is in the eastern hemisphere
The "Western world" refers to Europe and countries colonized by Europeans, it has nothing to do with hemispheres.

>>78980363
sure

here you go

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>>78980511
its my turn

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>>78980511

>>78980363
>>78980368
>>78980407
>>78980511
>>78980526
>>78980546
Damage control.

>>78980566
nice dubs

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> weeaboos once again invade a non weeb board
Do they have an inferiority complex?
>>78979250
Western animation has the superior reaction images and is therefore superior

>>78981615
>caring about le meme expression

Ladies and gents, I present Neo/co/

>>78980470
Then explain why we have had Chinese/Korean discussion?

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>>78981615
>Western animation has the superior reaction images
Japan gave us smug anime girls, your argument is invalid.

>>78981615
>Do they have an inferiority complex?
No, that would the apologists of Western animation.

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>>78981726
Smug anime girls can't top Donald

>>78980351
>I never said I hate it.
When you're calling people who like western animation "apologists" it implies you yourself don't like it.

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>>78981862
wanna bet?

>>78981898
Are you accusing me of hating it or not liking it?

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>>78981909
You wanna tussle bro?

>>78981944
Either. It seems like you dislike western animation, which makes me wonder why you're here in the first place.

>>78982008
You are just attempting misdirection here. The reality is that you don't want anyone to compare Western animation and anime because you're afraid of the results.

>>78982053
Again, I don't care which is superior. I'm just wondering why someone who has such a disdain for western animation is even posting here.

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>>78981961
I'm always down to tussle you fucking nerd.

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>>78982088
Smd nigga

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>>78982151
Give it up anon, the smug is too strong.

>>78982083
>Again, I don't care which is superior.
Of course you do. That's what this is all about.

>>78982301
No it's not. Stop projecting your inferiority complex onto me.

>>78982373
Apologists of Western animation have an inferiority complex. Don't try to project it onto me.

>>78982408
Why do you insist on calling people who like Western animation "apologists" even if they also like anime?

>>78979250
But 99% of anime is shit

>>78982439
By apologists I mean people who make false claims about the quality of Western animation and anime.

>>78982457
This is a meme.

>>78982514
So you only use the term for people who like Western animation and reject anime then?

>>78968206

Is Yamcha the Charlie Brown of Dragon Ball?

>>78982546
They can be apologists even if they accept anime.