You know, she's actually kind of a shitty villain. There's nothing interesting or memorable about her aside from "SHE'S A BIG FAT MEANIE!"
Of course she's shitty. She's fucking Raditz. She's not supposed to be deep or particularly motivating, she's meant to be the first real threat that sets up the "shit is getting real" element of the show.
She was the main villain for two episodes. The series hasn't established any main villain, unless you count Yellow Diamond who was only established recently. Yet with less screentime, she's far more interesting than Jasper ever was.
Jasper is only memorable because she was in one of the best scenes/songs/episodes in the series, but that's it. She relies on what's around her to be interesting. well her design is kind of cool i guess
>Do your job
The crystal gems are the ones that abandoned their own species and committed treason and murder just so they could protect some shitty planet to have their xenobestiality fetish in peace.
>breaking Garnet in half
>not interesting or memorable at all
Plus the entire fight in general. Considering those two things make up like, 80% of her screentime she seems pretty alright to me OP.
She's tough, no-nonsense, ruthless, and also dishonorable and doing whatever it takes to get the upper hand/preserve herself (as in when she put side her feelings on fusion to fuse with Lapis).
I consider that to be pretty decent when Jasper's entire existence is "be tough then get the shit beat out of her by Garnet (and make Malacite I guess)".
Do you watch the show at all?
She's a military gem who knows of and respected Rose Quartz, but nonetheless values strength above mostly all else.
Not even the person you were replying to, but your question, as well as the gripe this entire thread is based on, is bullshit.
That's actually a pretty good description of her.
I made this thread a few days after I saw Yellow Diamond for the first time, because right after I saw her, I remembered Jasper and thought "Wow, this one is so much better."
Yellow Diamond and Homeworld were mentioned before Jasper's arrival, and Jasper was mentioned as only being an escort during her arrival with Peridot. Jasper was never the big bad. She was someone sent to earth to do a job. She was played up as being a fierce warrior but she was never at any point played out to be a final villain archetype.
You realize we have like one episode of her total, right?
She's a front line soldier. She has the most history with Rose and earth. Her mental state at this point is probably batshit insane after being force fused. Steven is horribly afraid of her contradicting his entire "everyone deserves a second chance and can be talked down" mentality he usually has even though she's the one who never tried to kill anyone unlike Lapis and Peridot.
She's not a shitty antagonist because she never was played out to be the major antagonist. That's like getting mad when you're playing Pokémon because the team rocket grunt didn't explain a motive for trying to take over the world. It's a fucking grunt and you're not even past the second gym. Let the story build, holy shit.
>She's not a shitty antagonist because she never was played out to be the major antagonist.
Do you people always have such a black and white mindset? That someone can only either be the big baddie or a grunt, and nowhere inbetween?
Even in the Pokemon games, Team Rocket had major grunts with name and shit that are more memorable than Jasper. Anyone remember Proton?
I'm betting she's above average. The Jaspers we saw in that Blue Diamond flashback were beaten by Pearl. This Jasper is clearly capable of smashing all the gems short of maybe Garnet who she put up a ridiculously good fight against despite being one gem vs a fusion that's way above the rest.
Not really. She took charge of the mission and ruled showing Steven to Yellow Diamond above the cluster, but she did her job otherwise.
>I made this thread a few days after I saw Yellow Diamond for the first time, because right after I saw her, I remembered Jasper and thought "Wow, this one is so much better."
That's just the thing, you stupid little Anon. Jasper was never THE villain. Even when she appeared, they were all talking about Yellow Diamond. Hell, that's who they were specifically going to show Steven to. To ever think that Jasper was some sort of head honcho is outright retarded.
And by the way, Yellow Diamond obviously isn't the main villain either. She's as interim as Jasper was. Hell, the story, real antagonist may not even be a tangible person, but rather the system, or a concept.
Thing is that there is no in between at this point in SU, and as far as we know Jasper is a fucking grunt soldier sent on an escort mission. To say she was a terrible main villain is retarded because she isn't intended to be the main villain. At this point, all she has been established as is a plot tool to let the viewer know that Homeworld is coming to fuck shit up.
She didn't need to be fleshed out, explain her motivations, etc. She's not in charge of anything. She's an escort.
We will probably see more fleshed out in-between baddies later on, but don't expect that out of Jasper. If Jasper was high ranking, she wouldn't have been sent to bumfuck planet earth.
If Jasper does get more fleshed out, it's probably going to be because she's being redeemed.
There's such a thing as sub-villains, ya moron. Scarecrow from Batman Begins wasn't the main villain but he was still a fucking villain. Nobody is calling Jasper THE villain. They're calling her a villain.
Peridot was a researcher, and Jasper was a higher authority protecting her.
It seems that Ruby is more of the grunt gem. The fact that Yellow Diamond was curious about the wellbeing of Jasper is indicative of that.
If anything I'd compare Jasper to a general, outranking Peridot since she overruled her decision to stay on Earth.
No, Jasper was Peridot's escort. The show even said so. Technically Jasper was under Peridot in that instance. She only took control because Yellow Diamond is above Peridot, and acting in favor of something YD would want has greater priority than something Peridot would want.
Then why the fuck are you comparing her to YD like they should be on the same footing?
And the Scarecrow analogy is all but feckless since the gems in SU are arranged in a hierarchy. Scarecrow is just another villain. Not someone who works for the Joker or whatever you may be implying.
She's just the Nappa, Frieza's meathead emissary doesn't really warrant the time for development. Why do we have to know every villain's sob story or turning point?
No, because I'm not "mad" at anything. Besides, the Stormtroopers were not named nor were they a significant obstacle for the main characters. Plus the Stormtroopers were plentiful. Those monsters that the CG's fought all the time are more like Stormtroopers. Jasper is more like Boba Fett, who was also a shitty villain.
>BUT BOBA FETT DONT WORK UNDER THE MAIN VILLAIN
not the point
>why is somebody comparing one villain to another
Just because one villain is smaller than another doesn't mean they're not comparable. They're still villains.
Except Jasper isn't even at the level of Boba Fett because Jasper is literally meant to be an expendable warrior with dozens of copies of herself back on homeworld. Jasper is literally a stormtrooper.
>I'm not "mad"
>not the point
>Just because one villain is smaller than another doesn't mean they're not comparable.
I think you may be kind of retarded, Anonymous. Or autistic. The real kind, not the 4chan kind.
>or Yellow Diamond wouldn't immediately query the location of Jasper.
You don't pay attention to anything, do you.
It was pretty much the same thing as asking the whereabouts of the ship. Why do you need this explained to you?
>i look at characters by their occupations in the fictional universe and not their roles in the story
Are we watching the same show? Because from the point of view of the main characters, Jasper is a pretty big threat. Just because she's not as big of a villain as the giant yellow cunt doesn't mean she's not a villain at all.
If she's a Storm Trooper, then what are the monsters that keep showing up? What are the cluster-prototypes? What about literally every other villain in the series that played a smaller role than Jasper?
Look at the character's role and impact in the story. Not the occupation in the universe. I don't care that she's a "storm trooper". She's still a crappy villain.
>Was there during the original war
>claims to have had great respect not for Rose, but for Rose's methods of war
We'll eventually get to see an unfiltered view of how Rose really was during the war from Jasper's point of view. With how Jasper has been set up, we can assume Rose was a bit of a monster herself if Jasper can appreciate the war crimes she committed.
>even though she's the one who never tried to kill anyone
He tried to kill Garnet, and was going to take Steven to Yellow Diamon, who probably was going to kill Steven and the rest of the CG
OP here. I've actually been hoping for an episode like this for a long time. I really hate this show's habit of saying "i'll explain why this is important later" instead of just establishing its importance initially.
>Why don't you hold off judgement until she's been in a few more.
The show and the fanbase has acted like she was a major importance for a long time. I say it's a pretty good time for judgement.
Are you the same Anon who complained about the Garnet origin episode?
If you are, I'm sure people already explained to you then that the problem lies more with your impatience than the show's actual writing. In fact, a lot of the complaints brought up in this thread can be answered the same way, since a lot of it is people saying "they didn't tell us enough".
Steven was important and one of a kind, but they still referred to him as "the Steven" by Peridot as that was her understanding of what his Gem name/type would be.
All of the gems are spoken about by tools, so the use of 'the' is irrelevant.
I'm not saying Jasper is one of a kind, but she's definitely more important than your common Ruby who IMO is more of the storm trooper.
If we're comparing Jasper to Star Wars I'd call her your Captain Phasma type.
...she questioned it because she sent an escort with Peridot, and wondered where the escort was and why there was a problem. Jasper could have been a Ruby and the question still would have been asked. There was a job to do, and Jasper is part of the job.
Frontline infantry is always the first group of people sent into a battle, and questions are always asked when they fuck up. How they died, got captured, etc. That doesn't mean that they're high ranked officers just because the President wants to know why something that should have been a routine mission just failed miserably.
>There's nothing interesting or memorable about her aside from "SHE'S A BIG FAT MEANIE!"
She was never the end boss or even a mid boss
She's literally just one of several no doubt thousands upon thousands of Jaspers who exist
She's just a soldier who is supposed to be somewhat competent
>Are you the same Anon who complained about the Garnet origin episode?
Actually I loved that episode. Partly because it establishes how big the Homeworld is and how important Blue Diamond is in that very episode.
It's not "impatience" when the show just neglects to make things important at all. You have to ASSUME it's important sometimes. Remember Connie's glasses? It was kind of confusing when she just popped the lenses. Then ten episodes later, after a couple times where we still see her without her glasses, they finally give a reason why she still wears them, instead of just having her say "...I'll break the news to my parents later." or something. Then she's so inconsistently wearing them and when the plotpoint is finally resolved, it did jackshit to develop her character. The show expected me to assume importance rather than establish importance.
So excuse me for being impatient when a show acts like unimportant things are important and I'm supposed to buy it immediately.
What OP said: "This villain is not very interesting."
What you read: "The main antagonist of this cartoon series is not a giant threat, because that's what main antagonists are."
>what's a subvillain
Jasper is a fucking storm trooper. The beasts back home are sand people. The show hasn't fully gotten into the depths of what homeworld has to offer, but it's clear that Jasper is not a big bad in any way. She literally the equivalent of a lone storm trooper being encountered at the start of a star wars movie. It's still just a fucking storm trooper. To call Jasper a crappy villain is retarded. Especially when the crystal gems were aware of Yellow Diamonds existence at the time of Jaspers arrival. Even to the shows characters Jasper was never a high level enemy.
She was a power grunt that they were trying to stay hidden from along with Peridot.
What I said: "Of course she isn't interesting, there was never supposed to be anything about her because there are literally thousands of her"
What you read: "She's not the final boss so of course she isn't interesting"
>what's a henchman
>Remember Connie's glasses? It was kind of confusing when she just popped the lenses. Then ten episodes later, after a couple times where we still see her without her glasses
IIRC, she popped out the lenses and put her glasses back on. It wasn't like she took her glasses off entirely, thus leading us to believe she wouldn't wear them anymore. Hell, for all we knew, it could have just been that she simply liked how she looks with glasses, or something arbitrary like that. I don't even remember caring terribly much about that scene. You may be placing importance on scenes of your own choosing, and then getting disappointed when they turn out to not be as important s you thought they were.
>She was never the end boss or even a mid boss
>"She's not the final boss so of course she isn't interesting"
Are these not the same thing?
Also, ever read or watched anything other than Steven Universe at all? There's such a thing as minor villains, and they can be interesting. The series is ACTING like Jasper is a big deal. If she wasn't a big deal she wouldn't have gotten a whole song dedicated to fighting her, and she wouldn't be a continuous looming threat in the ocean.
Jasper's role in the story was to represent how powerful homeworld was. It took the heroes' strongest fighter to just barely take her down, with the implication that she's just a tiny fraction of what they'd have to deal with if homeworld were to attack.
She did that job well enough.
The problem is people are trying to evaluate Jasper as a terrible villain as if she were designed to be a main villain. Jasper isn't meant to be some fleshed out villain and it shouldn't matter for her to be fleshed out. She's a henchman that got sent on an escort mission. She presumably has thousands of copies of herself back on homeworld. It really shouldn't matter for her to be fleshed out as a villain because she isn't the villain. Coming to earth wasn't her idea. She was literally a tool given to Peridot for safety measures by Yellow Diamond. The equivalent to giving someone a gun to stay safe (albeit a sentient one).
Jasper is not supposed to be fleshed out as a villain and to complain about her not being fleshed out is retarded.
henchman implies that they are only serving the villain
henchmen can be villains or they can be normal average guys who are just following directions or even good guys who just ended up like this because it's all they could do, really it depends on their motivation
Jasper isn't a villain because there's a hierarchy in place that forces her to believe and serve a higher power, whether it's evil (which they don't believe) or not
Jasper doesn't make decisions, she follows orders
Well, that's all well and good, but honestly, I think it's a bit of hairsplitting
Way I see it, she fights for the side of the villains, therefore, she is a villain as far as the narrative is concerned unless otherwise developed or redeemed.
We could continue to debate, but really, it's just quibbling over semantics.
I think you have the opposite problem. Because Jasper is literally just a henchman, you believe that that implies that she can't be an interesting villain at all. That there's nothing that can be fleshed out about her, so there's no reason to look at her as any kind of villain at all (hint: Nobody is saying she's a main villain). What you don't realize is the fact that Jasper IS a villain. She's actually posing a threat to the Earth, and the characters are occasionally still worried about when she'll break out of her prison in the ocean to destroy everyone. There was a whole fucking episode dedicated to this worry.
She's still a threat. If she was nothing, then she wouldn't have made another appearance. She's a villain that the series is acting like is major. Just because she works under the big baddie doesn't mean she can't still be a villain. Stop looking at her occupation and look at her role in the story.
>serving the main villain means you can't be an interesting villain
>Way I see it, she fights for the side of the villains, therefore, she is a villain as far as the narrative is concerned unless otherwise developed or redeemed.
But that's wrong
There are tons of situations where the narrative could describe someone as villainous to whomever the plot focuses on, but because we are the audience we can look at every perspective
Like in Tom and Jerry, who is the villain?
>it's just quibbling over semantics
Only if you don't have an actual argument
What I'm a little confused about is why people didn't think Jasper was interesting.
I thought she was pretty good, and one of the most interesting things to happen to SU at the time.
>>it's just quibbling over semantics
>Only if you don't have an actual argument
I was about to say that this doesn't make any sense, but then I realized that it sums up this thread perfectly. Nobody has any actual argument except for arguing over what the "villain" semantics mean.
>That there's nothing that can be fleshed out about her, so there's no reason to look at her as any kind of villain at all
Personally, I bring up the point that as a Homeworld gem, there's barely any difference between her and just about any other Jasper, maybe even any other homeworld quartz
Which means that she was never meant to be different or special or serve any other purpose than completing her mission
And if something is only there for the purpose of doing essentially one thing, there is no need for it to have anything "fleshing out" about her
But that's just concerning the fact that there's nothing special about her and not her status as a villain
Answer this question, then. Should every single Jasper that approaches earth be fleshed out in the future when Yellow Diamond approaches with an army of Jaspers and other quartz gems? Every single Jasper is capable of the same level of destruction as the single Jasper we currently know, and poses just as much of a threat to the earth.
there is no need to flesh out a character that is not unique, especially a henchman. Darth Vader was fleshed out because there is only one Darth Vader. Jasper is not Darth Vader. We will most likely only get a fleshed out Jasper if Jasper is being redeemed to become a crystal gem.
How do you know that Jasper isn't different than any other Jasper? We've seen three Pearls that were all different. This Jasper may have a completely different personality than hundreds of others.
Plus, as far as the narrative is concerned, there's only one Jasper. There's hundreds of other Jaspers, but only one Jasper actually exists in the main story, and only one Jasper continuously poses a threat to the main characters of the story.
So even if we see all the other Jaspers, they're not going to be as important as the Jasper we already know.
We've also seen rubies that were the same and carried similar personalities
Those rubies and Jasper share common missions (escort missions) so it's more likely that they are more like each other than the different pearls we've seen
>Plus, as far as the narrative is concerned, there's only one Jasper
the narrative has recently shown that multiple copies of gem types exist and explained in that very episode that other copies of those gems exist, "Some lost defective Pearl, a puny overcooked runt..."
>but only one Jasper actually exists in the main story
I think you're getting confused, by that time we do know that other jaspers exist in the story, but there has only been one jasper that has been seen and that is the jasper that the crystal gems deal with
>So even if we see all the other Jaspers, they're not going to be as important as the Jasper we already know.
Only tangentially, because this Jasper on earth has interacted with the cast so obviously gems that aren't on earth yet don't matter quite as much
But once they are on earth they will probably matter moreso than the first Jasper we saw, especially if there are multiple Jaspers
she's had screentime in grand number of THREE episodes. First of them she appears briefly in the very last minute of the ep, in the second she actually has somewhat of a role and in the last one she just pops in to remind us that she still exists in the bottom of the fucking ocean in Stevens feverdream.
In short, any kind of whining about her being a bad character at this point is fucking dumb since she hasn't appeared nearly enough times to determine that, you could make a better argument about fucking Sourcream than Jasper.
Good characters don't need multiple appearances to be shown as good characters
On the other end, just because a character gets a lot of screen time doesn't mean their character has been developed
>>So even if we see all the other Jaspers, they're not going to be as important as the Jasper we already know.
>Only tangentially, because this Jasper on earth has interacted with the cast so obviously gems that aren't on earth yet don't matter quite as much
Those Jaspers have never interacted with the main characters. There's a possible chance that they will NEVER interact with the main characters. If they're never seen, then does Jasper still not pose a threat to the main characters? Is Jasper still not important just because there's many of her that exists?
You're still not really considering the fact that she's STILL in the main story. She's still looming over everyone because they don't know when she's going to have her jailbreak. I'd say that makes her a million times more important than some other Jasper that's probably taking a piss in a forest somewhere.
>Is Jasper still not important just because there's many of her that exists
Jasper actually isn't as much of a threat with Lapis holding her down, even then, she wouldn't be able to get off Earth or even communicate with anyone off Planet
Those unseen Jaspers hold just as much of a threat as she does
>she's STILL in the main story
She had screentime, that doesn't make her more in the main story than any other jasper
As far as plot is concerned, then yes she matters because she's the only Jasper who has interacted with earth recently, but plot =/= story
>Your logic makes WWII German rebels against the Nazi regime villains
the Nazi regime wasn't an impossibly old empire lead by an alien race that literally creates soldiers out of dirt and rocks
I get what you're saying, but it's not the same because the Nazi regime was imposed upon people, not something they were really born into
It would be akin to astronauts going to the moon to live there and not coming back
>Jasper actually isn't as much of a threat with Lapis holding her down, even then, she wouldn't be able to get off Earth or even communicate with anyone off Planet
you might as well just say
>i didn't pay attention to that dream episode
Jasper escaping doesn't mean that Earth as a whole is in more danger than it would be if literally any other gem beast escaped, nor does it mean that the crystal gems are in any more danger than they face any other day
Peridot wasn't even able to contact Diamond without the Crystal Gems' help
Jasper is a threat, but compared to literally everything else, she's not a large threat
especially not without her ship, especially because Garnet beat her one on one but now has 3 other gems to help her beat Jasper
This thread is literally like pulling teeth. Jasper is not a villain you can judge because she is not making actions entirely of her own volition. She's simply carrying out orders in the name of YD. She never was the main villain, was never played out to be the main villain, and never crafted plans to attack earth herself. She was only on earth because she got sent there. She was sent there because she's an expendable warrior. She is not meant to be fleshed out as a villain because she is a plot tool used to explain the homeworld is dangerous and powerful. There is absolutely no need to explain her back story because all it would amount to is "Yesterday Yellow Diamond called me on the phone during a training session and told me to go to Earth with Peridot. A few thousand years ago I was on earth during a gem war with a bunch of other copies of me." She's not meant to be fleshed out because she's replaceable.
If she ever does get fleshed out, expect it to be because she is getting redeemed. And this goes for pretty much any other HW gem that's not a Diamond or close to it. None of them are unique, and thus have no reason to be fleshed out unless they're getting turned into CGs or teetering the fence of becoming CGs before a backstab.
Fuck SU and fuck Rebbecca Sugar, the entire plot is fighting the "empire strikes back" with lesbian scissor gemming transformation love... with a fat kid that looks nothing like his parents... daddy got cucked by a Mexican!
Wouldn't Lapis just defuse instead of letting her stay as Malachite?
Even then, they could fuse to become Alexandrite, especially because they haven't been fighting at the bottom of the ocean for the past 6 months or so
Jasper is worse in that Gem beasts are just roving mindless beasts, Jasper can plan her attacks and already outclasses the Crystal Gems.
Plus maybe Gems just really value pointless sacrifice.
Actually I'm a newfag. I just made this thread because I realized a couple days ago that Jasper isn't as interesting of a villain as everyone acts like she is. I've seen some people make pretty good arguments defending her (notably >>78955257 and >>78955517), but I didn't realize that I had to sift through so many dumbass arguments as
>HUH SHES A STORMTROOPER SHE NO MATTER
because subvillains don't exist apparently
and then there's this asshole
No, but I dislike SU a shit ton, at times, it's "okay" but it's literally 90% talking about feelings and then the... gasp, oh my "lesbian gem mut transformation".
>Jasper can plan her attacks and already outclasses the Crystal Gems
She only won because she surprised them with new technology that she no longer has
She can't poof any of the gems instantly anymore and now has to fight them on their turf
on their earf
This is why some of my favorite episodes are episodes that aren't trying to force emotions and just have a good time. Like Steven & the Stevens or even fucking Say Uncle, and I hate Uncle Grandpa and that episode.
People are just really quick to latch into any new development in this show.
SU has this constant promise of a story that's going to get awesome any minute now, big bad homeworld coming to fuck shit up and a flood of awesome varied gem characters. However the plot's moving at a glacial pace, and the introduction of new gem characters is a trickle. So when a new gem is introduced people get insanely hyped even if she doesn't do much.
Also her design is pretty cute.
Another reason I dislike it, is because there is no threat, or they convey it horribly. It feels like a rave after-party and everyone is trying to figure out why they feel these feels. It's like they're just dick stumbling around, and then talk about their feelings... eugghhhh, I want some drama and action dammit, not this monotonus, dull, raspy attempt at trying to evoke feelings when almost nothing has happened, the only time I did see anything worthwhile was with that Blue chick-poo and her depression, loneliness shit, but that was shoe horned and down played to the side for other shit. They could have REALLY expanded on her, but, nah, they just rushed through it, and then talked about how they felt, ughhhh.
>SU has this constant promise of a story that's going to get awesome any minute now, big bad homeworld coming to fuck shit up and a flood of awesome varied gem characters. However the plot's moving at a glacial pace, and the introduction of new gem characters is a trickle. So when a new gem is introduced people get insanely hyped even if she doesn't do much.
I'd like for her to come back eventually. It'd be kind of boring if they went with the redemption arc again though, or worse, if she was a hollowed out / mindbroken husk of her former self from being raped under the ocean for months on end.
dat literal hateboner
She constantly refers to the lack of Rose whenever the face certain threats, like when Amethyst cracked her gem
There was even a whole episode about how she isn't the same because Rose wasn't there, the one where she just let steven fall off a floating rock
She also had sick spins and hated all Traitors.
How the mighty have fallen.
I said it was "okay" at times, but overall, I dislike it, they could have done something really special with it, but, smeh, it stinks of lesbo symbolism, touchy, touchy watered down feelings (feels are fine, but they did it all kinds of wrong), with a fat kid side kick who really does nothing for the most part except tries to have the gems relate with Earth culture.
Well they prevented this from happening to the Earth, so imagine what else the Homeworld Gems are capable of.
That's only if Phasma managed to escape the garbage before Starkiller exploded
pretty sure the moment that the general is gone, there will be no threads that involve SU. And the moment it does get mentioned at all, there will be massive amounts of shit posting.
So I'm pretty sure that there will be no place to discuss it soon on 4chan, since trash has no meaningful discussions, and co mods will make sure any threads related to SU never get made.
all because you couldn't keep it in a general.
Mods have seen and passed over this thread already. In the time span that this thread has existed, 3 other SU threads were deleted by mods. 1 of which for pure shitposting, 2 of which for bringing up seriously insignificant topics that belong in the general. This thread is safe.
You're the only one doing any serious damage right now.
she's been on the bottom of the ocean for the past 25 episodes while we got through the peri arc
there was no time to go back to her or lapis aside from that dream in chille tid
why are you saying stupid things
She showed up for one of those 25 episodes, and only as a very brief cameo. They've been doing other stuff. You don't just pull Jasper's backstory out of your ass when she's not even around. There's no pressing need at the moment to get to that, just wait already.
We have confirmation that Lapis is free in a few episodes. Jasper will be touched on soon.
We have confirmation that Lapis is free in a few episodes. Jasper will be touched on soon.
Yeah, but fucking when. The scheduling for SU is goddamn bizarre.
I'm not doubting anybody's claim on this at all (since so many people are saying it at the exact same time), but why is it that literally every video showing this clip ONLY shows the clip itself? Honestly I'd like to see the before and after, because it seems bizarre to just show 5 seconds of something.
I don't watch SU on CN. All I'd like to see is the before and after.
In the same episode where Steven gets his spit in her mouth and her eyes get fixed, she asks what she'll tell her parents/optometrist. Popping out the lenses and putting the glasses back on very clearly implies that she's just not going to tell them and continue pretending she needs glasses.
How was that hard to understand?
>she asks what she'll tell her parents/optometrist.
Because that's such an abnormal question to ask. Clearly it implies that she's worried and not that it's really really really really big news and literally anybody who gives a shit about their life would ask this question.
But it really didn't matter because she kept wearing them anyways. It was so inconsistently done that it does nothing to progress her character or represent her growth, which I think was the point. She even continues to wear them in the opening; the one WITH the sword.
It's like the writers wanted to give a shit but couldn't think of any reason to.
>fusion seems to be a metaphor for sex.
Am I the only one who thinks this is really fucking forced (no pun intended)? Like fusion can represent ANYTHING you do with a friend. "Friends" can also force you to do something you don't want them to. Why does it need to be tied into rape?
I really enjoy /sug/ when there are episodes on, but all of this out of the general shit makes me hope that the mods ban us again. People like OP are pony faggots who cannot keep to one thread and deserve to go back to >>>trash.
No, it literally is lesbo space gem sex, you are too diluted, thick and ignorant to see it.
>all fusion shown in the show except the Ruby fusion is heterofacetal; it involves gems of different types
>Homeworld is disgusted by non-homosexual fusion
Crystal Gems are actually heterosexuals fighting against an oppressive homosexual regime.
This is exactly why we were banned before.
These fucking waifu threads are bullshit and you know it and if there was no moderation there would be a thread per gem.You assholes *should* keep it to one thread but no, your ~special snowgems~ so you feel entitled to more than one for a show that is CURRENTLY ON HIATUS.
Fuck that, mods please ban /sug/ to trash.
You don't want threads about specific characters, but you don't want a general thread to talk about characters.
This. Also Jasper is a veteran of the first Gem war for Earth. She showed a personal interest in finding and fighting Rose Quartz, the enemy general, so she might be somewhat high-ranking. Also Yellow Diamond asked after her, surprised that Peridot was making the call and not the team leader.
Jasper may be just a commander or an elite soldier in the opposing army, but she's interesting because of her history, of the information she has and can provide, of her perspective, having seen the fight for Earth from the other side. She's interesting because she's not a wishy washy do-gooder gem but actually a formidable force with a brutal attitude, who still has some sort of warrior's code and high ideals. She respected Rose and considers fusions a "cheap tactic".
Nevertheless, her drive to win is so great she's willing to bend the rules if that's what it takes to win and complete the mission and defeat the enemy. She's loyal and fierce and enjoys fighting.
She's also going to have some insane PTSD from the whole Malachite situation, too, should be interesting to see how that affects her views on fusion.
She's interesting because of the immense promise and potential of interesting storylines and lore. Also I don't think she's as one-dimensional as some people think, we've only seen her in a confrontation situation
Because pretty much everyone knows it's falseflaggers trying to do that very thing
In every moment that we saw them together, Jasper acted like the one in command, giving Peridot direct orders. She's the head of the operation and outranks her.
If she'd have tried to kill Garnet she'd have shattered ruby and sapphire. Instead she just locked everyone up and tried to bring them to what she saw as justice. Also she saw Steven as Rose Quartz, the enemy general, in disguise, of course she wasn't going to just ignore it and do nothing.
This is OP. This is the absolute best post talking about this character. I can say that she's not as uninteresting as I remember her now. Still, I wish we could see her more (since there's nothing stopping us from doing so).
yea this is a waifu thread that literally starts with "this character is shitty" good job very good you're going places good
>should be interesting to see how that affects her views on fusion.
I'll be pretty disappointed if Malachite does anything but further sour Jasper's disposition. Shit has to be fucking horrific
No, it's Lapis who is the rapist. Jasper is like someone who suggested sex in the back room of a club, in a rather pushy way but not forcing anyone to accept - and who then gets tied down and kidnapped and abducted to someone's countryside cottage to be constantly raped for months.
It's not what she signed up for, and Lapis agreed without being forced to.
I really fucking hope the show will address that.
Peridot was clearly assigned a Jasper. She just couldn't keep her Jasper under control. Understandable, too. I mean if I were a militaristic hot-headed giant lady, I wouldn't want to follow the orders of nasally green midget either.
So yeah, subordinate in name only, but subordinate none the less.
Is this show any good? Would it let me down if I like masculinity and comedy?
It's fun if you let it be what it is and just go along with the ride. Quite comfy.
The first episodes are a bit shit though. By episode 10 or 12, it should start to feel a bit intriguing, but I for example thought the first 8 or so eps were kinda meh and Steven was a total whiny retard dipshit in them.
I'll give it a shot again, I suppose. Broaden my horizons
It gets progressively better as it goes on. Season 1A had some visually pretty rough episodes for a number of reasons, especially the first few episodes, so to not let it get to you. The column on the right is from said episodes.
Cat Fingers should definitely grab your attention, and around Giant Woman and Too Many Birthdays is where most people agree that the show picks up. If the midseason finale doesn't get you, then the show's probably not for you at all.
Because I don't swing with the boring memetastic populist hivemind of 4chan and enjoy things at my own discretion, and then share it with other people if I feel it was fun and enjoyable.
He really changes during the course of the show. It's subtle but it's there. I mean I could barely stand him in the first episodes and nearly dropped the show because his being so endless ineptness rustled my jimmies so bad. The conflicts in the first episodes were literally all of them
>the awesome superwarrior gems on a delicate mission
>steven is with them for some reason, and is a whiny, clumsy fuck
>gems: steven this is a dangerous situation be careful and do NOT do the thing
>steven: shits the bed by expressly doing the thing "oh you mean this"
>destruction and disaster, they all almost die
>next episode, different mission
>gems: steven do not touch the ancient magical artefact
>steven: pokes the artefact "bloop"
>it's a trap, what a fucking surprise
>the ancient gem temple crumbles to the ground
and so on.
But he actually gets better. He also starts to work out, he's not such a food-obsessed fat slob any more as he was in the beginning of the show. It's nice, really subtle character development. Even the gems remark on it, in the early episodes you can really see they treat steven like a lovable but brain-dead family dog and Pearl is often quite exasperated with him. But recently, it's different, and they even say "he's come such a long way".
Pic related, jesus christ Steven you had one fucking job in Cheeseburger Backpack you little retard
Alright sweet. I'm optimistic.
You don't seem honest.
Because they see the episode name written in that form and it sticks.
for the record, anon's complaint is that the episode is actually called "So Many Birthdays", but the wrong version is for some reason more widespread
They are all females, "supposedly", they dress as so, talk as so, and have tits, they are all lesbos anon, and the symbolism is strong, stop justifying that it isn't. If it looks like a duck, sounds like a duck, walks like a duck, must be a duck.
The whole regime is more about "racial" and "ethnic" purity you dolt, basically, flying fruity space rainbow gem nazis, for the pure combinations only, Sig DIAMONDS!!!
There's a massive difference between Homeworlds definition of fusion, and the CGs definition. For Jasper, fusion is situational and only to be used in battle-hence why she asked Lapis to help her fight the CGs.
>I mean I could barely stand him in the first episodes and nearly dropped the show because his being so endless ineptness rustled my jimmies so bad.
He's more unbearable now. At least in the beginning he had some semblance of masculinity.
>>the awesome superwarrior gems on a delicate mission
>>steven is with them for some reason, and is a whiny, clumsy fuck
>>gems: steven this is a dangerous situation be careful and do NOT do the thing
>>steven: shits the bed by expressly doing the thing "oh you mean this"
>>destruction and disaster, they all almost die
>>next episode, different mission
>>gems: steven do not touch the ancient magical artefact
>>steven: pokes the artefact "bloop"
>>it's a trap, what a fucking surprise
>>the ancient gem temple crumbles to the ground
Looking back, I can only think of three, maybe four episodes where this happens.
She didn't really work as a storyboarder from the get-go. If memory serves, I believe time constraints made them use a board supervisor to draw some of the storyboards at the very beginning. For the curious anon, this is only present in the first couple of episodes. There is a certain notorious storyboarder for the rest of season 1, but she's completely absent in season 2 and was replaced with a boarder that's now considered one of the best.
I am starting to like the idea that Homeworld's hatred of cross-gem fusion is how they got their heads caved in the first time, because Rose encouraged the hell out of it in her troops who ended up creating superior war machines.
>There is a certain notorious storyboarder for the rest of season 1, but she's completely absent in season 2 and was replaced with a boarder that's now considered one of the best.
What? What? Anon in the beginning of the show he was a fat, useless, food-obsessed retard crybaby who seemed to have the mental level of a 6-year old.
In recent episodes, he's actually shown some backbone and trying to take responsibility for things, he's trying to become the heir to Rose Quartz everyone expects him to become. Heck, in Message Received he was almost bad-ass.
What do you understand with "masculinity"? Shitting the bed and stuffing your face with chips?
Kat Morris was the supervisor-forced boarder.
Hellen Jo is the notorious boarder.
Lauren "Can't Be Juked" "Nuked the Gook" Zuke is the one that replaced her. Well known for drawing the best Amethyst.
Yes and they're all within the first five episodes of the show.
The first impression of Steven isn't that great
Of course, but still - he's been on missions with them before, he's seen that shit can get serious and dangerous, and still he's unable to follow a direct fucking order of "do not touch the glowing thing on the pedestal in the middle of the room that is full of gem magic". Seriously. Children the age of 4 are able to understand and respect "that is dangerous, do not touch" commands. But not Steven.
/sug/'s suggested hallmark is watch Laser Light Cannon, Giant Woman, and Steven the Swordfighter to decide if you might like the show.
These showcase a good deal of the characters and relationships between Steven, the gems and the humans, as well as some of the gem-powers. It is also due to the first few episodes being a little slow paced and quirky (Looking at you Frybo and Catfingers).
And a hell of a Lapis and Jasper.
She gives everyone sex hair, it's amazing
I mean, I like the way she draws in general, but she's definitely best known for that Amethyst.
>Of course, but still - he's been on missions with them before
Actually, it had been established that Steven was barely going on missions with them. Plus, he's extremely sheltered.
But there's hints of lore already from the first episode onwards. And they're all just 11 minutes, so if you power through them you can spend 2 hours some evening and watch the first 10 episodes and see how you feel. It's only half an hour more than watching 3 eps of a half-hour episode show.
If it feels at all like it might be getting interesting, watch maybe 5 episodes more. If you still dislike it at that point and aren't intrigued, drop the show.
She turned from a short chunky gurl into a midget Ummpa Lumppa!?!?
On the older episodes, Steven acted like a normal 12 year old boy. He played with video games, had action figures, and rode bikes and scooters.
But now? He dresses up in dresses and acts super feminine. He even does that limp wrist movement gay men do. Not masculine at all.
Not that anon, but Steven is a hero I would not want, fat, food obsessed and an annoying little shit who spews touchy feely smutt to basically immortal gem world killers turned good. Touch my Buddha belly gem and see it GROOOWWWWW.
now suck my family gems or you're a rape-apologist!!
This anon, this anon speaks miles and leagues of truth, SPEAK IT!!!
He acts super feminine. Just look at It Could Have Been Great; he was singing and shaking his ass like he was Ariana Grande. The old Steven would have said no way to that shit. Not even Bobby Hill would act this way.
They need their fuel. Out of hundreds of episodes, they have to fixate on a single one to explain why it's Bad and why it makes them scared because they get tight in the pants at the thought.
Instead of offering a rational argument, or articulating why they don't like it, or just saying "not my bag", they have to make sure you KNOW it's tumblr faggot women shit like they were told. It's like a red siren for "this shit makes me deeply insecure"
It's a nice trolling attempt but no. I mean in the first ep Steven makes up an ode to a processed foodstuff and fondles himself so that his gem starts to glow. He's singing and dancing throughout the show.
He seems more mature now, starting to see the implications of trying to be the leader and feeling the weight of that. It's much more masculine than singing about food and about how it makes you feel in your tummy.
Is such levels of retardation even possible?
That's the thing you and the SU crew don't understand; boys like processed food stuffs. Boys sing jingles and only jingles because they love snacks.
Steven is nothing but bastardization of what a boy should be. Leave it to tumblr.
I'm finding a better thread.
>Nobody ever gives James Bond henchmen any shit for getting no characterization other than the little traits of them you see before they get killed
Isn't "you don't criticize this completely different thing" a logical fallacy or something?
Besides those probably show how they're more memorable. Or maybe it's because they're not being treated as a huge villain literally every second they're on screen.
>completely different thing
Except they're not?
>way to advance the plot forward
>flunky within the main villain's hierarchy
>used to advance plot forward
>flunky within the main villain's hierarchy
And Jasper wasn't treated as a huge villain. She was treated as a clear immediate threat, same as any Bond henchman.
he was a kid doing something for the first time of curse he was going to screw up. that's why they didn't take him on anything too difficult and babied him all the time. it was like a chick learning to fly
but he's learned, any they trust him to do anything now. he's saved them a whole bunch of times
I thought she was cool.
>That build up
>Finally touches down, first thing she does is talk shit
>Strong physical presence
>Surprisingly good voice acting
A villain doesn't need a super backstory to at least be cool.
Gotta agree that regular stormtroopers loyal to the Order have to be competent in order to balance out Finn being competent.
Phasma was deliberately set up to look cool and do nothing, because nowadays industry news gets around faster, and everyone knows Gwendoline Christie is gonna be in ep VIII. So they just give us blue balls for Phasma, as a marketing tactic for VIII.
>all these fucks not believing in Steven
If he can make Peridemption happen then he can do anything.
Now to wait for Jaspdemption.
>singing and shaking his ass
C'mon son, that's what made the King a chick magnet.
I was going to post Danny from Cats Don't Dance when he was playing the guitar as it seemed more fitting, but I couldn't find a picture of it on google images.
Also, she's not even really a villain when you look at it. She's a soldier doing her job, hence fucking with the CG's. And she's also a product of a very anti-fusion, "stay in your fucking social niche, scum" society, hence her seeming like a dick. I mean honestly, it's like calling Doomsday a villain; he's just a big angry motherfucker who HAPPENS to be beating the shit out of the good guys
>she's going to shout "traitor" at Peridot
I think Steven matures in the show, in the way that he thinks more of others now than just himself.
In the early episodes, he's really selfish (kids are selfish). Lately, he thinks more of his situation, everyone's situation, and what he is and he can and should do.
>selfish little shit who wants to have breakfast with everyone, despite the CGs juggling dangerous magic shit
Puts his selfish desires to "level up" or prove himself in gem stuff, to show appreciation to his foster moms. Instead of them boosting his confidence, it was Steven who boosted theirs.
The best way I heard fusion described was that fusion is a hug. You can hug many different people for many different reasons, but they all mean something at the time.
Sometimes you hug a friend.
Sometimes you hug a family member.
Sometimes you hug a partner.
Sometimes you hug a teammate.
Sometimes you put someone in a fucking headlock and hope to choke them the fuck out.
>Anon in the beginning of the show he was a fat, useless, food-obsessed retard crybaby who seemed to have the mental level of a 6-year old.
Did you even watch season 1A?
>Episode 1: Steven saves the gems from Centipeetle with a fridge
>Episode 2: Steven saves the gems from the Red Eye with the cannon
>Episode 3: Steven does almost everything right with his backpack except forgetting the most important part
>Episode 4: He fucks up and brings Together Breakfast to life, but he also kills it. Pearl, Garnet and Amethyst couldn't even touch Together Breakfast
>Episode 5: He fucks up and brings Frybo to life, but he also kills it. Pearl couldn't even touch Frybo
>Episode 6: Steven accidentally overuses his shapeshifting and overcomes the issue with some help from his dad.
>Episode 7: Steven accidentally uses his powers, lures a gem creature and then defeats it by himself.
>Episode 8: Steven gets them trapped in a pyramid, which probably would have happened anyways, and then figures out the puzzle.
I really don't get where the idea that Steven was useless comes from. He has consistently been far too powerful.
>I really don't get where the idea that Steven was useless comes from.
Probably that he caused as many problems as he solved at first. For example, in your list of episodes, all but the first two had Steven unintentionally make things worse somehow. That said, it's also true that he can solve problems.
Yes, I did. Sure he may eventually help solve problems but very often he causes them himself at first because he's a dumbass twat.
I mean it was true that he did help with the Laser Light Cannon. But with the others -
>ep 3: the Gems think Steven shouldn't come because it's too dangerous and important for him. He whines until he gets to go and they let him carry the statue, the SOLE POINT of the mission. He leaves the statue behind and the mission fails disastrously.
That's not "doing almost everything right". There is no "almost everything". There was just one thing, which he removed from his backpack and left behind. Total failure.
>ep 4: the gems are busy, but he wants them to do what HE wants, NOW, and enters the temple despite knowing he's not supposed to as it's dangerous, ignores Pearl's direct orders because BREAKFAST, gets in trouble, starts shouting in a clearly delicate situation where both Pearl and Amy are trying to whisper for him to get the fuck out, disturbing Garnet, bringing the breakfast to life.
The only reason he's able to touch it is because he's already holding on to the plate, because he brought the damn thing into the temple against orders in the first place.
>ep 5: AGAIN, Steven can't be arsed to pay attention when Pearl is giving him crucial information about a potentially very dangerous thing because he's a retard, and then goes on to do exactly the thing he was directly told not to do, putting others in danger because he's a fuck-up.
And so forth. He was written in to solve the problems because that's character development, fine, but I just wish at least some of the problems would have arisen from something else than Steven consistently being a little shit who doesn't listen, doesn't do as he's told, doesn't think or pay attention, and who thus puts other people consistently in harm's way because "DON'T TOUCH THAT" or "SHHH" is too fucking complicated for him to understand. He's 12, not 6. He should know better.
Can we take a moment to say rebeccas hair has great curls
>Fuck SU and fuck Rebbecca Sugar, the entire plot is fighting the "empire strikes back"
You mean the entire plot is Transformers
>Shapeshifting aliens from Space fighting a civil war.
>Peridot was clearly assigned a Jasper.
That doesn't mean Peridots outrank Jaspers.
It would be like if you were assigned a private cop protect you... you don't outrank the cop and can't order him around just because they've been assigned to you.
>That doesn't mean Peridots outrank Jaspers.
I don't think so either, but on that particular mission, Peridot most probably outranked her Jasper.
But like I said, probably in name only.
>you don't outrank the cop
You do know a police officer swears "to protect and /serve/", right? It's even written on most of their cars.
I understand what you're going for, however.
>they are all lesbos anon, and the symbolism is strong, stop justifying that it isn't
You're a pretty awful troll considering the show's namesake shows they aren't lesbians with his very existence.
>she was in 2 episodes a 11 minutes
THIS IS THE POINT.
Jasper is only a random ''badly'' character.
WHY THE FUCK SHE HAVE FANS ?
''Jasper is my waifu'' ''i am going to draw fan art of Jasper'' ''my wet dream is that Jasper becomes a Crystal Gem''
WHY THE FUCK THERE ARE PEOOPLE THINKS THIS SHIT
I think Jasper's gonna wash up with amnesia and become an actual super hero.
That or be dressed up by girly girls and have very rose like persona when we next see her
Enjoy your new actually mom steven, we know what greg likes....
You know, he's actually kind of a shitty villain. There's nothing interesting or memorable about him aside from "HE'S A BIG FAT MEANIE!"
>Fusion is just a cheap tactic to make weak Gems stronger
What did she mean by this?
I just don't care about the quantity of Yous I'm giving to this homo anymore.
>Resorting to the worst parts of the worst episodes of the show to prove your point.
Yes, sometimes the show gets a little too progressive, but it isn't THE fucking reason to not watch the show, or to hate it and shit up its threads for some empty amusement. It's not that hard to get over the unlikable ocasional parts and enjoy the lore discussions, or the clever atmospheres, or characters or whatever the thing you like that the show is offering.
She disdains weaklings that resorts to X and not genuine ability/strengh.
It's just that trope again.
Also, fusion was actually a cheap tatic to make soldier gems of the same type into a stronger and bigger clone made of themselves.
She is actually considerate to Peridot (Peridot hates being touched if you didnt notice). She goes to touch her, but realizes before she does it and stops herself.
Kind of a minor detail but its quite telling.
It's a great show. As for comedy, the show isn't centered around it but it's definitely there, I've burst out laughing many a time. On the other hand the show is definitely feminine in the sense that females make up most of the roles, but the male charachters are really strong and aren't belittled. The only time I thought the feminity went out of control was in one episode, Sadie's Song, in which the show went out of its way to put the cast out of charachter and demeaning the purpose of the show while adding nothing to put Steven in a dress and makeup. That's the one episode it's bad about however and you can easily skip it.
This guy gets it. Steven's turning out to be a pretty cool guy. I hope we get to see him mature further, dude's going to be a fucking bad ass. People act like all his redemption stuff is faggy but I think that's just because he's a kid right now. The whole "warrior who recruits from who he defeats" thing is dynamite.
It's not in the Reddit AMA. But I found this:
>But we won't necessarily see that many iconic villains on Steven Universe, says Sugar — the Gems aren't dealing with a particular person, but something "bigger than that." >There's not "really a singular enemy." Instead, the conflict will be within the group, and it'll be about Steven figuring out what's right.
> Peridot most probably outranked her Jasper.
The HW gem society is extremely hierarchical. I find it extremely difficult to believe that someone with Peridot's "PRAISE ME" temperament would allow Jasper to order her around like that if she was supposed to be her superior.
>inb4 she couldn't control Jasper
Then that seems like the sort of shit that'd get Jasper shattered back at HW as soon as Peridot would file a report on the alarming behaviour of the Jasper who disobeyed her orders and even dared to order her superior around.
Peridot may have initiated the mission and may have been the main technician who was supposed to check on the cluster and gotten a superior gem assigned to go with and protect her, but Jasper outranked her and clearly led the mission. Every time we see them interacting it's Jasper calling the shots and ordering Peridot around. Peridot's trying to whine that they can't leave yet, which does suggest that she's more high-ranking than your average Peridot would be (it's "her" mission after all), but nevertheless it's Jasper who calls the shots.
>Then that seems like the sort of shit that'd get Jasper shattered back at HW
Not necessarily. Jasper didn't really do anything wrong (except maybe delay the mission a little, but what's a few days or weeks to beings who live for thousands of years), and she was going back to HW with something that she honestly thought YD would have been interested in (and, she probably would have).
Plus, it's understandable for her to be rude to her Peridot if Jaspers typically outrank Peridots on HW. But like I said, on that particular mission, Peridot likely outranked Jasper.
And speaking of YD, it's probably also important to keep her wording in mind. She spoke of Jasper as "the Jasper I assigned you", not "the Jasper you were assigned to".
I'm guessing lapis will be pissed off at peridot for the way they treated her on the ship. Lapis will slowly realize that peridot has changed and go and retrieve her limb enhancers from the bottom of the ocean.
Look at the extended intro this is mirrored exactly. The gems are running along the beach with Steven but he begins to fall behind and then he catches up and even surpasses them taking the lead. He will eventually be a better warrior than the gems
While all Gems are capable of fusion, fusion is never performed between different Gem varieties. Instead, fusion is only performed between low-ranking soldiers, to temporarily boost their powers in emergencies, but otherwise fusion is considered taboo. Garnet's fusion would inspire the Crystal Gems to fuse with each other on occasion
Zach Callison, his voice actor, is currently 18. He was 16 or something like that when the first ep aired.
He just turned 14 in the last stevenbomb.
However, during the show we've seen 2 annual beachapaloozas, in Steven and the Stevens and in Sadie's Song, which would indicate that at least over a year has passed in the showverse, which would make Steven 12 or younger at the start of the show, which is the period we were talking about.
there's more important things to deal with at the moment, why are you so impatient
she's a brand new character that appeared many episodes ago there has been nothing to judge since then what are you even
are you going to start saying YD is a shitty villain because she hasn't had enough screentime
They want 100% resource efficiency. The starting condition of Earth could have conditioned the final form required for perfect efficiency and modifications for symmetry could mean wasted resources or time.
1. She only got 2 episodes of development as a supporting character.
2. And even then, you're still wrong. She's not just "a meanie". You probably mean that she's violent. But she's also manipulative. She wants to make herself seem like she's on the righteous or just side, calling fusion an abomination and wrong/weak, pointing out to Lapis that the CGs are traitors to Homeworld. She's spiteful and has a pride problem, not caring about her mission as soon as she got beaten by a filthy perma-fusion. But I guess you didn't bother to think about it that far.
I still believe that Steven is going to fuse with the Cluster/Earth in an attempt of great understanding/next level planetary guardian shit.
Simply said Steven is the real secret weapon here, far more powerful than anything else on Homeworld and Earth. Only how he uses his power depends on his heart.
Undertale and Steven Universe. Two absolutely shitty flavors that go great together!
Did you see the episode where Steven makes himself grow a little taller? That's gotta be what his actor actually sounds like now. Personally I prefer the old sound because it was less squeaky and forced, but at least he still sounds young.
Actually, despite YD's limited screentime, she's a million times more interesting and memorable than the entirety of Jasper.
IT'S ALMOST LIKE INTERESTING CHARACTERS CAN BE MADE WITHIN A SMALL AMOUNT OF TIME OR SOMETHING!
She's the first unambiguous "threatening bad guy" encountered in the series.
Lapis attacked everyone but not because she was evil, just angry. Peridot was also encounted before, but she didn't pose any more of a threat than the monsters of the week.
Ultimately she's a footnote, unless there's some cool development with Malachite and her
Jasper is literally a grunt soldier.
Complaining that she wasn't compelling is the same as complaining that the stormtroopers that get killed in the opening of ANH aren't compelling.
MAYBE she'll be an actual entity later on, but for now she was just some random soldier.
>Complaining that she wasn't compelling is the same as complaining that the stormtroopers that get killed in the opening of ANH aren't compelling.
The Storm Troopers were not named, nor did they have any implied backstories or posed a major threat to the main characters by themselves. Storm Troopers also aren't looming over the series because of the possibility of them returning.
Why do you morons think this is a good analogy?
Her popularity is literally just because /co/ has an enduring fetish for aggressive Amazonian muscle girls.
That's just the thing, and it's exactly what's been brought up in this thread several times now. Jasper was terribly interesting, especially when she had just appeared.
Why are people trying to pass of their unpopular subjective opinions as objective facts?
Wowz, this thread is STILL alive.
/sug/ was banned by the way.
it's always been this way.
generals are unnatural. we don't have a 24/7 marvel or dc thread, or a 24/7 Arrow thread. Topics come and go and whatever is on the catalog is just whatever we feel like talking about at that time.
Having a permanent place for a topic to post in isn't imageboard culture, and people who want that should either use other sites for it or lurk more. Sure, there'll almost always be a SU thread up when there's news or a new episode, but people act like there NEEDS to be one up at all times, even if they don't want to discuss stuff. they just want it to be there because they're so used to it.
We got banned again because apparently 4chan is a place for intelligent and current discussion. Apparently shows should be banned to the >>>/trash/ when they go on hiatus. Why /sveg/ and /gfg/ aren't banned is a complete mystery though...
4chan is a place where NAZIS ROAM THE SKIES WITH PANDAS THAT BREATHE DRAGONS THAT BREATHE FIRE, BUT ALSO HAVE TALONS THAT ARE GUNS THAT SHOOT SMALLER GUNS.
That is what pandas are about.
Wait, I wanted to find a Steven Universe thread to post an image I found, why isn't there a /sug/ up?
Well that's stupid. Why say "keep everything in one thread" and ban everything outside of it, then do the exact opposite with banning the one thread and encouraging hundreds of threads that's just going to have people bitch about them more.
What's even the purpose of doing this, and why does this kind of shit keep happening here?
What the actual hell?
It's not about it being remarkable, it's about simple fun.
Sharing images, maybe a few jokes, or just posting something you like.
It's not a big deal, I mean this image isn't that great and the stupid joke I probably would have made while posting it would have been stupid, but the
generalsituation of the thing seems idiotic and backwards.
Nut in her ass? When my pills I had they would obly make me feel like I was walking through narrow tunnels upright. Tuna cans all day. I guess this is what you call the unorthodox living arrangementof a man caught somewhere between a rock and a hard place. I think Im smart, maybe a little brilliant. I don't know but I know I am not better than when I was i. the place. anyway.
Never been it's retarded idiots like you that get mad over a show that you don't even watch enjoy being a fool
>what is the point of posting an image on an imageboard
Like said "sharing, and maybe a few jokes".
If anything, that's kind of the point. The stupid stuff people complain about aren't exclusive to generals.