Why is this so fucking shit lately? It starts out fantastically! The premise is interesting, everything is moving really quickly, and there's a clear character struggle going on, what with the MC freaking out over her fear of animals and having made a deal without even realizing what she was doing. The art was also extremely expressive with gorgeous background detail without being over-designed.
Now it seems like pages are moving WAY too slowly with nothing interesting happening, and the MC and all the interesting characters are taking a backseat to boring highschool shenanigans. I get that developing characters is good and all, but you can do that through action as well! Not to mention a lot of the character designs lately look over-designed and while I can't figure out why, the comic looks more...Tumblr? I think early comic looks a lot better than it does now.
What the fuck happened? How does someone devolve as a writer and artist?
It was never good anon...we just read it because it has interesting designs and colors....for me at least its one of my guilty pleasures.
The author always had these issues.she constantly over expands her world and story to the point I don't think can ever be narrowed down again.
I have no idea what it is, but from that image I can tell you right now that it's deviantart trash. My goodness those designs are ugly, looks like the artist is desperately clinging to his "style" and make all the characters look the same because of it.
You have shit taste and have never been to Deviantart.
I think it started out fine. There were clear and defined characters, and there importance was shown from the getgo. There were conflicts and curious events unfolding and things setup that looked like they'd be important later, from the MC's fear of animals to Damian's angry outbirst to the shield protecting the school somehow getting breached by demons. But then the comic just quickly had the MC get over her fears, starting doing character switching all the time taking away from the reader a character to latch onto, and no new interesting significant developments have occurred. I'm sure Vivienne could actually make it better and more focused and everything would be just fine. She could completely ignore her fuckups and make the story more focused again. But she hasn't.
Whoahey, is this comic drawn by the girl who does these cute animations? Is she the writer and the artist? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-PKNuZovuSw
You are seriously just now noticing the basic writing problems that have been there from the start. You're just used to not acknowledging these sorts of problems because you eventually get payoff. Now that you're reading something that's stalled, you're picking up on these flaws.
The whole comic should've focused more on the protagonist Cameron (her condition is eponymous for the webcomic after all) rather than a bunch of multicoloured twats no one cares about
Of all the things you attack, you choose the character design, which is one of the highlights of the series. The characters themselves are mostly bland, the story arcs are uninteresting and due to the long history of the characters, the comic requires context that isn't actually given to a casual reader. Still, the settings and creatures of the comic are given unique and appealing colour schemes and features.
That's because it's the cardinal sin of webcomics
In all fairness most every character in the picture provided has at most three base colours and the rest are shades.
Still though, point taken.
The name is Rusty and the character assigned to him is generic bully.
It's disappointing since he's one of the nicer looking characters.
Something about that eyebrow raise.
Good thing most of her characters don't resemble sparkledogs then.
I'd actually love it if she successfully made such a company, but that's a huge fucking investment and I don't think Patreon is going to help her there. Though she has gotten noticed by big time animators which is kind of cool and should help.
Besides the fact the artist is crazy and made a character's backstory out of petty spite (She "adopted" an OC, didnt give credit, artist got mad, she made that artist the "evil" bitch wolf in OC's history) her story hasn't even started yet. A lot of her characters are as unlikable twats. The gay snake-squirrel thing, Damian, the other gay snake guy, the cliche bully bird chicks, etc.
Talking about jiji or how she's called?
Reach JJ already. I want more art of her.
Its not a joke? I dunno. Her animation style is smooth and bouncy and came during a time when 2D animation is nearly dead. Her character designs are extremely expressive and she has a clear distinct style that is both difficult to replicate and unique to her. Her usage of color makes her art fun to look at.
No. She still hasn't appeared. And given the pace of the comic, she may never appear.
> Her animation style is smooth and bouncy and came during a time when 2D animation is nearly dead. Her character designs are extremely expressive and she has a clear distinct style that is both difficult to replicate and unique to her
have to agree, as someone who already draws and is starting to learn animation by my myself, I have to admit that she clearly has some very impressive skills when it comes to indepenent animation.
I am pretty fucking impressed that shit is done by a single person, it´s nowhere near perfect, it´s full of mistakes and shortcomings of course, but no shame in giving credit where its due.
Like? Honestly, who can compare? Really, I'd like to know. I like cartoons but most animators are either shit or stick to really simple artwork even if they're good.
Meanwhile this woman got a publishing company to come to her instead of the other way around and got the creator of Grim Adventures of Billy and Mandy to give her support and help in the cartoon industry.
Who else is there? Because the best I've seen from small teams/one man shows is this:
Her animation is pretty decent, 7.5/10 (you can tell where she gets lazy/rushes, pretty clearly)
But her lipsyncing is horrible in every video. She needs to sing the song in front of a mirror and watch mouths, they're just flapping randomly, basically.
She is a talented animator and i commend her for what she does in 2D, and her stylized characters.
Can't say i'm fond of the writing of the comic. Dropped it very early on so i can't really agree on it being good in first place. It sure looks nice though.
Pic related, i don't like her attitude either.
are we gona get porn of the blue dog ??
or at last more hugs
love that giant boobs
She basically set up a false premise and instead of having a centralized story like you'd think she wants to do slice-of-life bullshit with the hundreds of idiotic characters she's cooked up.
Think of it more as a series of short stories instead of one ongoing one and you'll be more comfortable.
Doesn't make it any less shit but still, what do you expect from what is essentially a professional deviantart poster?
I know its a lower grade of animation but this is funner to watch https://youtu.be/pBpEjBr-8Zk
oh god im kind of waifuing out over that possum(?)
Is this how it starts /co/?
Right now I think a possum(?) is cute and and in a year a fapping in a possum costume?
Let's compare, shall we?
American Alfer is uncomfortable to watch.
Having to look up Youcis and Baskhi, their works are both ugly as fuck
Or is that the point? That they both do similar work but one is more fun to watch?
Honestly I don't dislike her even though I'm not a fan of her work. I think she needs to mature a bit and could benefit from an editor, editors are sadly underrated and misunderstood asset. Its nice to have someone to bounce ideas off of and to tell you, "Hey maybe thats not such a good idea".
>American Alfer is uncomfortable to watch
Boy, dont watch the playhouse series because she pretty much directly addresses why she's so fucked up. And it's sad and REALLY discomforting
She seems like the kind of person
honestly a lot of people my age 18-25that can't take any form of criticism without having a mental breakdown and just plain not capable of getting shit done unless they're coddled and catered to.
I wonder if she's on medication, or exactly what kind of bubble she lives in.
Love the art style and all, I just think that Vivienne could work on her animated videos more and work on the comic later and not try to publish it once a week. I say for her just to not publish it all and put it all on book and then publish it. But for now I think she could just focus on more bigger things like her animation. No hate or anything I think she just needs time. And depending on if the comics shit or not is undecided, I usual wait until something is done and then place my thoughts on it.
>Have been to deviantart
>Insult others taste
>Haven't selfharmed to death
Deviantart makes tumblr look good, and the OC roster in this comic will be right at home there.
Sorry, thought that was Rita in the thumbnail
The deeper you go with her the weirder and more uncomfortable it is. I think that's the appeal though,
Try what this anon posted
That link is for a 3 episode mini-series.
Fucking weird shit man.
Gonna need a lotta cigarettes for this shit.
Possoms are awesome.
It's called Habits/TerribleTerribleTerrible/Clementine.
make sweet, sweet love to her for the soul purpose of procreation
>HURR DURR its just like MMO
The characters are pretty clearly young adults living on their own. The reason I like it so much is its a very accurate description of what my brother and his friends do, they're all minimum wage workers/factory workers living in the ghetto that just get fucked up and go to school or music venues.
Jiji needs to stumble upon Kermit.
Requesting that...for reasons
Sort of, yeah. I think her main point was she's worried people who are unfamiliar with her comic will assume it's based on the Disney movie after it comes out and she'll have to explain over and over that they're unrelated. I can understand that.
>Though she has gotten noticed by big time animators which is kind of cool and should help.
Who? Like, actual talented professional animators or like Egoraptor? Because I honestly can't imagine talented artists looking at her work and thinking "This girl has skill" when she's so clearly amateurish and has been for four consistent years.
A lot of creators, especially amateurs, are really bad about making something they find endearing on a superficial level, filling a story with odds and ends, and either drifting away from their core story because they planned things poorly or end up making side characters with more original, interesting, or relatable character traits and conflicts than the protagonist(s).
That's why she's popular.
Really, as pandering as it would be, just making a comic about a stupid rave-werewolf would both bring in way more money for her and make for a better story.
>she eagerly embraced the party wolf lifestyle
No, not Egoraptor. I was talking about Maxwell Atoms. Hell, she's actually working with him now on his Deadmeat project.
A few years ago. I'm trying to go back through her blog to find it but its really fucking annoying.
This is damn impressive. You got me. I will say that I don't personally like it, just because I'm not fond of realistic-looking things and prefer more cartoony works. But that's damn impressive and I have to admit its way better than anything Medrano has done. Also better than that Birdboy animation I shared.
*but its really fucking annoying to do so. It used to be on her site when it had a news section but now all that's there is a tumblr blog hosting her comic which makes this harder. Give me a little while longer.
No, the "people should be treated equally regardless of gender" kind of feminist, not the "men are pure evil and you should kill yourself if your gender or sexuality doesn't have at least three prefixes" kind of feminist
Only a butthurt fan or the creator themselves ever resorts to "Let's see you do better." Just stop before the anon you asked that from or other anons tell you that you're being stupid.
>She has a tail.
>One of the closest beings in this shit universe to resemble being 100% human and she has a fucking deer tail.
This fucking furry meme has to stop.
When did /co/ degenerate to the state of enjoying vibrant coloured werewolves instead of quality waifu material?
When did it all go wrong?
OP is a fool, clearly trying to like something that doesnt deserve to be liked.
>Why is this so fucking shit lately? It starts out fantastically!
Your new sticks out like a sore thumb.
>Her animation style is smooth and bouncy and came during a time when 2D animation is nearly dead.
Holy shit, you have no idea what you're talking about. There's fucking hundreds of animations posted on YT every year, each one better than her shitty music video.
When she made that fucking atrocity, I already wrote a huge reply why it was shit. There's too much happening, she has no fucking idea how lip sync works, how to use colours, how to animate what's important. She thought that "dynamic" in animation means ALWAYS HAVING A LOT OF SHIT IN EVERY FRAME AND YOUR EYES CAN NEVER REST BECAUSE WE'RE GONNA DIE YOUNG LULZ and it gets so tiring after about a minute or so, you just want to close the video of fear of epilepsy.
The character designs all have the same "emotion" It's busy, edgy, full of thin shapes. They differ inside their own paradigm so you can tell if one is supposed to be more soft or relaxed, but outside of context the characters are very similar in nature. I'm not criticizing the style itself, but it's character designs are kind of a one trick pony.
Once a newfag shilling shit, always a newfag shilling shit.
Don't get me wrong, I used to adore her work.
Up until I realized how shitty her writing was, how shallow and bland most of her characters are, and how uninspired her artstyle is.
No kidding, she pretty much copied Jhonen Vasquez's work for her entire high school life and adapted it with other useless uninspiring over-designed trash.
She does not deserve all that money she makes from her autistic community I was once part of.
>I am not OP, you are a falseflagger out to make fans of the comic look better.
>But you are le OP it's okay to like shit comics. :^)
I should have known to expect cruddy trolling from Tumblr.
>dyes her hair crazy colors
>is a feminist
I like that she dyes herself different colors but the feminist thing makes me like her less. as if women are actually dealing with oppression in the western world to fight.
Lip sync and inconsistent unanimated background work is the only problem with it and 90% of Youtube animations can't compare at all, and that's not what I meant when I said 2D animation is nearly dead.
>actually disliking how much happens on screen at once
But anon, that's what makes it so much fun. You have to watch it multiple times to see everything. Its the reason why watching movies animated by MADHOUSE is fun.
And I'm not even talking about solely that video when I said what I liked about it. All of her characters are extremely expressive, like the kind of shit you'd see in something like Animaniacs where character faces and body angles clearly show strong emotions to an unrealistic degree. Its smooth in that its...well, smooth. Inconsistent perhaps, but smooth.
I'm not sure I understand. I used to like the comic, and now I don't but I want to like it. How does this make me new? What is wrong with using the words "fantastically" and "Tumblr"? What is wrong with trying to derive enjoyment out of something?
I am new to /co/ though. I almost exclusively use /v/ and was just visiting since this comic keeps pissing me off.
The guy you're replying to isn't OP.
>the only problem
Entire lower bodies disappearing is a pretty big problem, and that's ignoring the poor direction overall (drawing many things moving fast all the time does not a good animation make).
There's having a style and then there's just not giving a fuck about portions what did a straight line kill her family? is she allergic to rulers? it also doesn't help that everyone has le wacky reaction face all the time
Her style is alright but jesus christ. Stop this woman from writing or making characters ever again
>fondness for simple living and nature
>but is outrageous party animal omg. Super complex and colorful EVERYTHING FOREVER
>also feminist who fights oppreshun
The only thing missing is her being autistic or having some form of PTSD. Then she'd be a Tumblr wet dream.
What's truly laughable us she wants to make it big in the industry with just her vision. She strikes me as someone who either gets that vision or its the highway. Which does not work in a business driven by working with/under other people and corporate meddling. No room for being a diva here.
Translation: She makes animations set to music then tries to ask said musicians for permission to use them when necessary.
She's already working in the industry. Sort of.
Uh ... no. She actually begs the musicians for attention. Somebody probably has the screen shot, but her friend went to a Kesha concert and might've had the opportunity to talk to her and Viv begged her to point out her video to Kesha. Then she repeatedly tags Kesha, in multiple tweets, about the same pic she drew of her as a tribute. Just for the sake of tagging her.
As someone who admits to reading because it's a guilty pleasure...that fucking dragon character is awful....it's like she came up with at a time before she knew good design and stuck to it out of spite.
That tail size is pretty random and inconsistent. Unless that thing's power is stretching its tail, that is.
She won't make it far in the industry unless she stops the attention whoring and the petty childish spite writing. Writing that her sparklewerewolf character had a 'tragic past' by being created by someone else was so fucking cringeworthy.
So what does that say about her offering her freelance services to Maxwell Atoms for Dead Meat?
Does that make her desperate for experience to put on a resume or him desperate for freelancers? Or both?
Or is she actually competent?
Literally any CalArts fourth year film is better than any of her work. The best thing she has ever made was her SVA thesis film, Timber, but I suspect it was only good because she had her teacher supervisor her the whole time. Also
>came during a time when 2D animation is nearly dead.
Does TV and Europe and Japan suddenly not exist anymore?
If Viv ever does make it in the animation industry, or even gets her own show which is delusional of her to think she can just jump right to that, it will be a huge insult to those artists who actually fucking work hard and are more deserving of jobs and chances than her. The bitch wants to start her own studio without a single piece of prior experience in the industry. I don't even think she's done internships, her resume is literally blank. The only reason she isn't living on the street is because she caters to furries and 16-year old beginner artists who admire her because they think that lots of colors and curvy lines = good. Without that sweet Patreon money, she'd be fucked hard. She really doesn't deserve any of the money she gets, she needs a wake-up call to mature and stop fucking around with e-drama and being a pathetic whiny fangirl who thinks her Vasquez rip-off style makes her a special snowflake.
Around $1200 a month.
Also ew, Wu. Thanks for reminding me she exists.
Why are there so many girl attention whores? Are they raised up to think they are representing their gender and oppressed and feel the need to over compensate?
Women are raised to be whores IE: marrying a prince charming who will provide them with all their wants.
Success is seen as latching onto another person and attention whoring is how they'll find you.
The thing is that there's an interesting story to be told where someone who is afraid of all these fantasy creatures is thrust into a world of them as some sort of sick plot but instead we get bcb tier highschool drama like what the fuck
I don't get to post this often.
It's desperate and annoying. You say it's not cynical but it definitely feels more like someone trying to ride the coattails of someone famous by hoping they share her work on their social media causing her to get "mega e-famous" with little effort rather than just the desperate clamorings of a big fan.
Like, if she got personalized handwritten letters from Kesha stating how much she loved her video but said please, do not mention this letter to anyone, she would probably say fuck that and post it all over her Tumblr.
She literally craves attention because she has nothing else going for her. She isn't talented enough to be in the animation industry working on shows or making her own show, she doesn't have good enough connections to weasel her way her, and she's not a good enough writer where her comics grow in popularity. Literally all she has is "style" and dumb people thinking lots of frames = good animation, so she only draws and does what she thinks will make her popular.
That's probably why her comic has decreased in updates while she's been releasing constant animation videos. Those get more attention than her comics. She only cares about instant gratification and views, not long term reputation or drawing what actually makes you happy.
She comes across as a chick who wants the most for as little work as possible. She seems like someone who thinks they're above starting low on the chain as a board revisionist or clean-up artist. She just wants a STUDIO NOW, TV SHOW NOW, RESPOND TO ME NOW KESHA.
Whoever is making these is really fucking autistic and quick to assume the worst. Calm down nigga. Not everyone has some malicious intent behind everything they do.
Its like I'm on /v/.
>I want everyone who sees hateful and paranoid things written about others to actually question and learn what is going on, not to blindly make judgements, or believe statements made by cowardly terrible people.
There you go, the only proof anyone needs that she is not completely terrible. Only partially.
So I checked the thing, and it updated. Looks like the drama bullshit is starting to end. Nothing too interesting though, so not linking.
I did like this face though, so here's a crop.
This is cringey. to read. The comments make it even cringey-er. Why do 16 year old girls think spouting faux tolerance and quotes makes them wise when they're probably some of the most intolerant people in the world. Shit, if they weren't stuck in their internet bubble all day afraid of the world, they would be real life bigots.
So I know a couple of people who went to SVA browse here: Did Viv get coddled while she was in school? How the hell has she managed to avoid drawing anything from life this damn long? Literally everything on her portfolio website is the same damn picture. Did no one tell her that sometimes people like to see some range of skill and life work in portfolios rather than the same sparkle animals over and over in a portfolio?
One of the best art schools in New York, the whole country even,and she got away with it. How did she get away with this?
>tfw no Viv edit.
Something honesltly gives me the impression She makes these threads just to shill her patreon.
>mfw she lost 1k on her patreon
>mfw she's doing a stream showing her new patreon banners being made.
This Special snowflake is hilarious.
How did I do?
I assume she lost 1k because she lost people who genuinely were interested in her art, unless something dramatic happened to cause it. Any chance she'll crash and burn if she keeps up this dA furry style or will she always have followers?
I hope her e-fandom causes her to follow the path of Kyle or Dobson. Well known for awhile on deviantART, then suddenly dies into obscurity and nobody cares.
She does not. I've personally complained about her work before. Specifically her comic, since its what's been pissing me off of late, and she just said that she's sorry I don't like it and understands some of my concerns. You know, what you'd expect. You probably just said some asshole or autismo tier reply that probably that deserves to be blocked.
>make thread complaining about comic
>but somehow I'm a shill
Once again, am I on /v/?
>doing a stream somehow means special snowflake status
Are you retarded?
There's not a whole lot to defend but some people genuinely enjoy her work for what it is.
Indulgent garbage that somehow makes money.
I'm never going to give her money but I'm not going to lie and say she has no talent or try and defend the shit choices she makes.
Its just entertaining to watch another denizen of the internet make money off a shit trend and put her issues on display.
If you're really made uncomfortable by people not outright shitting on her, why did you bother to open the thread and post? Shouldn't you be in a QC thread?
>"Lemme show you guys my new patreon banners I'm making."
>"By the way, I need muh Patreon funding to keep me fed with a roof over my house."
Yeah, no. She does not deserve 1k for what shed does, let alone 2k.
Why is this thread filled with e-celeb garbage instead of discussion about the comic?
Why are people trying to contrive ideas about the kind of person the creator is from next-to nothing?
A banner is a type of artwork anon. Its not unreasonable to assume that she'd do a stream of her making artwork, something that pretty much every popular artist does these days. Or does this trigger you?
The comic is empty trash wasting its setting potential on 3 straight stories of highschool drama with no sign of returning to anything decent in the near future. All thats left to talk about is why someone would bother to create a world of mystical creatures only to get them caught up in petty drama and literal faggotry.
>Its not unreasonable to assume that she'd do a stream of her making artwork, something that pretty much every popular artist does these days. Or does this trigger you?
It's how desperate she's getting just to promote her Patreon. Instead of giving a shit about her comic, or working on all of those WIPs she finds the time to update her Patreon banners. For what purpose? She's already making enough on Patreon and she's got merch that she can sell.
Maybe she should take into consideration that she's been VERY inconsistent with her comic. She's been working with that asshole Addison for nearly five fucking months, senpai.
I'd still prefer that to e-celeb garbage.
Fair enough. She really should be working on literally anything else. And its so strange. Addison, despite all this time on her, isn't interesting. Despite all the focus, I still couldn't say anything about her personality or what her character is nor what her purpose in the story serves. Other characters that haven't even gotten as much focus have more defined personalities and importance.
Analysis of the author is important to the reception of their work and helps set context for the artistic choices they make.
As it stands shes an ambitious young woman with a modicum of talent that hasn't been refined enough to make her truly stand apart from the rest of the dA sparkledog pack past she somehow made it through artschool and is making money on a comic she neglects that started off with promise but fizzled out into trite melodrama.
I already read BCB, and it doesn't even come close to eclipsing that pile of mediocrity in the melodrama.
The only other thing she has to her name are her animations, only one of which resembles a final product.
All we know about this character is that he does art and he's gay for an art teacher. A handful of characters have more development than him and we've had five months of this kid.
I'll admit, the early development was at most decent, but now literally nothing is happening.
Addison is actually a dude but the writing is so bad you can't tell and also he looks like a girl but that just ups the faggotry of the entire webcomic
>I already read BCB
I'm so sorry
/co/ please explain patreon to me. Many online content creators that I enjoy have switched to patreon and their work has slowed to an absolute crawl. I understand that they're probably making shit for people who willing to spoon feed them every month but I'm not gonna pay these dweebs $5 a month for 3 5 minute YouTube videos.
Like what's the appeal? Is for people who can't get sponsors?
People feel the need to support these content creators by giving them their sheckles. The reason why these people feel the need to do this is a mystery to me. Maybe it's to get the perks the content creator gives out to their patreons, but one thing is for sure is that it makes hardly any difference to the quality or even quantity of content made by the creator.
I'm sure everyone's had their piece to say regarding the comic.
But let's face it, ANY thread related to Viv and her work will get derailed into Sparklewerewolf erotica and waifuism.
I'm not impressed. The sequences are very contrived (music videos of dancing and lip syncing, with no surprising juxtapositions) and the art style squishes the lines of the character's silouhettes too close to each other, causing the forms to appear too thin to grasp (especially around the mouths and arms).
I also can't get over how the animal characters seem to be animals for the sake of being animals--nothing is really done with the fact that they're animals. Even in some cartoons like Regular Show where the character's animal appearence serve no apparent purpose, at the least the forms of the characters reveal a bit of their personalities (the racoons short stature betrays his childishness and the bird's skinny frame with the slim legs gives him the same silhouette as a tight-jeans hipster). But what does a fucking wolf have to do with Christmas, and how does his cheshire-cat smile and tuft of red hair relate to either the song he's singing or the holiday he's celebrating. It reeks of furry.
It strikes me as the work of someone enamored with their ability to create, rather than their ability to create something memorable and clever.
Just to clarify, this is related moreso to the Kesha and Most Wonderful Time of the Year videos rather than her thesis film. That one I'm not impressed with either only because it relies on the "us vs them mentality is bad" archetype without doing anything interesting with it. "One eye and two eye, they don't get along, but when they work together, isn't it beautiful!" That's cool, I guess.
Because everyone who isn't an inbred idiot is a feminist. No actual semi-intelligent person believes women deserves less in modern day America. So to actually label yourself as progressive, feminist, pro-gay or whatever the fuck in 2016 is a laughable joke. It's basically like saying "I think poverty is bad!".
So to actually waste a character trait by describing your sparklewolf which still tells us nothing about them other than the author themselves can't fucking write is bad.
That's is what feminism should be...but sometimes I wonder that the problem is what people think feminism is....there are a lot of people who don't seem to understand what it is.
I still hear girls say I don't consider myself a feminist or anything...
It's sad but people really think it's a fanatical cult or something rather then just upholding the ideal of simple equality..
While agree with your statement, sometimes the statement is needed. In this comic though, probably not.
The loudest most seen/shown of any group are always the worst of that group. This even applies to here with how people think all of 4chan is like /b/. For furries, it's the faggots who run around in fursuits.
>mfw people still think equality can be championed by a group focused entirely on the betterment of the position of one sex
You guys crack me up
>mfw nobody actually thinks that
>they're all just patting women on the head and humoring them
>it's one giant patriarchal joke behind women's backs
>everyone just took the joke too far until people forgot it was a joke
>now people take it seriously because the mad men of last generation forgot to let the modern men of this one in on it
>Trying to make her image read more easily
Feminism has been irrelevant as a movement for well over 30 years and at this point its a sad corpse of a pile of propaganda. Accept this and move on. There is NOTHING redeemable about the modern feminist movement which is why everyone with self-awareness that isn't a plebe has dropped the label. Its not making a come back. You want people to be feminists? Accept that its a dirty word and more people would rather move on from the identity politics game to shit thats actually worthwhile like basic human rights.
It IS a sad little cult, which is why nobody with a brain wants to single themselves out as a feminist and what that actually means in the modern political arena. This doesn't mean people don't believe in equal rights you tool.
Well thank god you got to hear to me straight!
>Why is this so fucking shit lately? It starts out fantastically!
It's premise had some promise but the creator showed no development in her art, couldn't take criticism, and didn't know how to run a concise story.
Rather than follow around the clear main character and whatever interesting hijinks that could come out of that, she decided to run with this "everyone's a main character and there's millions of characters!" bullshit and shove in her middle school fantasies and gay ships.
>can't decide on color so she can be ANY COLOR
>feisty, haters gonna hate attitude
>"getting dirty and simple living" yet "scared of frogs" and "party wolf lifestyle"
>"works to fight oppression" and "confident in her body and size"
>"sometimes plans parties with spam" because LOL SO RANDUM
>werewolf culture dyes it's fur unatural ways to express themselves
Jesus tittyfucking christ this is like a new evolution of middle school scene sparkledog bullshit. We have transgressed that plane to come to this. It has ever goddamn stereotype crammed into this abomination of a character. She already bleeds mary sue and she hasn't even been in the comic yet. Fucking astounding.
>No, the "people should be treated equally regardless of gender" kind of feminist, not the "men are pure evil and you should kill yourself if your gender or sexuality doesn't have at least three prefixes" kind of feminist
Not with that look
No, there's a reason she's really desperate for people to donate to her Patreon which has been increasingly losing money. It's literally her only reliable source of income at the moment.
The problem is her comic has gone on for so long people are now realizing there's nothing to it and it will never built. I believe she said herself the first two books are only about character and the actual "story" won't start until book 3. Which is stupid because those two things go hand in hand, not one at a time. Plus all her e-drama and childish attitude has caused people to drift away from her and be interested in her as an artist.
That causes her to lose money on Patreon, then she has to put her comic on hold so she can do some freelance animation here and there to make up for it. Causing even MORE of a loss in fanbase because you can only keep up with a dying comic for so long before losing interest.
Which makes her MORE desperate, which makes her spend more time trying to hook people in which makes her delay her comic and other work that people were interested in the first time even more.
She's basically spiraling down e-bankruptcy. She can't even financially manage a Patreon and the girl actually thinks she can open up a studio.
Y'know, I just realized why this werewolf's design is frustrating me.
She's supposed to be eleven feet tall, but she's proportionally "shorter" than she is as a human that's only 5'6''. It's hard to get a sense of scale from her because she stays at just about five heads instead of ever reaching the relatively reasonable proportionality of 6 or 7 heads.
I swear, in the animation she looks to be the size of 5"6, 5"7, 5"8 or 5"9, but in >>78972608's image she looks as though she only grew 3 ot 4 feet higher.
Does it say what height she is when she's human? She looks to be about 5"9 or 6"0, which doesn't make any sense at all.
Also IF JayJay is 11" tall then how big is that fox thing on her head? I'd imagine she's the height of a small 7 year old child. Bear in mind each of these character's weight. Jayjay is holding a child up with just her her with no issues.
Was she not taught weight and proportion size at SVA?
Weight has never been a strong suit of Viv's.
Or sense of timing.
Or clear poses.
Or space consistency.
Or proper stretch n squash.
Or color design.
Or character design.
Or layout design.
Would you believe she has a BFA in animation?
Judging by this image I'm guessing IF Jayjay's 11ft tall then Niquie's about 4ft tall roughly.
Not just that but every other character in that image is no less than 6"5 or 6"6.
So this image from her web comic makes sense I guess.
>Wanting disproportionate porn
Please, leave the porn to the anons who have actually learned this shit.
As for Viv...As soon as she loses too much Patreon funding her shit will most likely get fucked, senpai.
I've only just started reading this, you mean to tell me there are going to be even MORE boring-ass characters to lessen my enjoyment of the comic?
I don't get it . /co/mblr was literally sucking this sheboon of an artist vagina dick a while ago when she released that dancing wolf thing. Now ... now /co/mblr is flinging shit at this artist?
Are... are you trannies on your metaphorical cycle or some shit? Did she insult a feminist? What gives /co/mblr? Why aren't you sniffing her ass out?
>Too right, but I'm sure this thread will go actually somewhere and die soon.
>Yeah. We can't say the same for Viv and her work however.
>/co/mblr was literally sucking this sheboon of an artist vagina dick a while ago
The realization of her lack of artistic talent and knowledge, how shit she is at writing and just the sheer fact that she's doing nothing interesting right now.
But looking back now I can see she's always been shit.
>pic semi related to what's being produced by this incompetent human being.
Not only is this not relevant (in a major way at least) but the post is detailing the whole fuck-up between tumblr and 4chan a good while ago.
I thought for a second someone just now posted that in response to criticism or hatred towards Zoophobia in this thread.
Have a shitty, quick sketch.
I'm not going to invest the time to actually draw it well, but it does illustrate that you can make an eleven foot tall character less than eleven heads tall but still clearly taller than a 5/6 foot-ish character without necessarily having them next to each other.
No, but I was saying that is something they teach you in animation school: Storytelling. Like, JQ Quintel's short film has next to no artistic skill but it was least funny enough to showcase his comedy writing skills.
Viv came out of school with nothing. Either she got gypped or breezed her way through school.
So I went to SVA alongside Vivienne. I wasn't her friend, just classmates so I don't know a lot personally. However, I do know that SVA's talent pool is so far below compared to CalArts (I am strictly speaking their animation majors) who actually regulates their applicants it's almost laughable. As long as you have a portfolio and can pay, SVA will accept you. I've seen students get accepted who couldn't even draw. They've accepted so many students the past couple of years because of how easy it is to get accepted, they've had to open up more animations studios just for classes.
Because of SVA's loose standards, they are _desperate_ to showcase already e-popular artists. When Steven Universe was airing, they sucked Sugar's dick really hard over there. Steven Universe merch and trinkets were spread around the hallways, teachers showed off her early animation work she did for their classes and continue to "casually" talk about her to impress the students.
Almost half the people who go to CalArts get a show, so they don't boast about it because it's so often. However, SVA literally only has Rebecca Sugar. They've already ruined themselves by being so frivolous with accepting applicants that all they can do is piggyback on already popular people. What the hell does this have to do with Vivienne? It's in response to this:
Vivienne didn't suck the dicks of her teachers. No no, SVA is currently sucking her dick. Her thesis film is one of THE most viewed animation videos to come out of that school and they are riding that hard. When they released a collection of thesis films to showcase one year, they got Vivienne to do the cover of the DVD, pic related (Rebecca Sugar's thesis is also on the DVD if you were wondering).
Viv was just as terrible then as she is now at drawing. Her style has not changed a bit. But because she drew a LOT and finished assignments, she was able to pass classes because that's all that matters.
That's actually how MOST art schools are operating now, I was looking to go into Animation, but the ONLY place I would wanna go is CalArts, which does not accept transfer credits and is over 200k to go, might as well go into the med. field at that point then go gov. work, DOD (Department of Defense) or military. I have my Associate's in Fine Art, I went to comm. college, but I got a lot out of it, but the students are shit and are a joke, usually rich kids thinking becoming an artist is "super duper easy career". They also will pass anyone along as long as they hand in an assignment. Literally saw people paint and draw like a three year old and got an "A" while other people drew hours and hours a day, both personal studies and class studies and took it seriously, and were ranked the same as the shmucks who were garbage, it's a money game for college and that's NO JOKE.
I want to hate fuck Vivienne.
The problem is, because of how high tuition is, it would be horse shit if you were unable to pass because of skill, as weird as that sounds.
Imagine doing all the work then getting a failing grade because you aren't good enough and then being unable to advance to the next year which means you have to pay an EXTRA 30k - 40k to retake classes?
By raising standards for art classes, we won't solve the problem by having more talented people graduate. We would just have an increase in dropouts or young adults being even more in debt than what we have now.
It's a really shitty system but if there's a choice between "Anyone can be an artist (with a degree)" and "Anyone rich can be an artist", might as well not screw over normies who take out hundreds of thousands in loans and let them be bad artists just like the richies.
she should learn something about character design contrast
when all of your characters are multicolored fox-cat-things with human proportions only dedicated furries will be interested in all of them
>nobody posted this
No you, another namefag pretending to be anonymous.
>banjo has no strings
>barely drawn later as not even full lines
>pulling shows no real gravity or weight
>look just like standing still at 45 degree angle
>shitty throwing animation
>shitty burning up sound effect
Well screw that. She will always be Jiji.
...except when shes a edgelord for no reason. See >>78992414
Maybe Jiji went to Bowser's Monster size difference class
>they are riding that hard.
What's funny is that, at this rate, she's not going to make anything of herself
Yeah she can draw/animate halfway decent but she has no clue how real world jobs work, nor does she seem to have any connections within the animation industry anyway.
If she does get hired, it'll be a big slap in the face from reality
It's a fucking shame because her KEYFRAMES are there. But her timing and spacing is so horrible that it looks so fast, you can't register all the good key poses there, and it feels so busy.
She could be really good if she self analyzed herself instead of listening to only the praise.
It's impossible to take anything that undertale fans says seriously.
They only posted a reaction gif, that with no context is just a skeleton throwing himself out of a window.
It's also impossible to even take you seriously, thanks to the image you just posted.
He's also using shitty logic that can be turned against him too. The work.actions of a single person means all the group are the same. So everyone on 4chan are cyber terrorists who fap and distribute child porn.
I'm so glad people like you are allowed to even come here, seeing as how you cannot grasp the idea of reading comprehension and you barely read the thread.
Please note that anytime you say /co/mblr, no one will take you serious.
I'm just saying that a raving college werewolf sparkledog is just odd yet relatable enough to make a story around with some effort. The rest of the cast is either too abstract or too overbearing to make them central characters.
>not using a reaction image
>just saying the meme
See I look at this and I have to disagree with people who say she doesn't have talent. She does, she really does . . . but her work needs polish.
The first few threads after the release of her music videos actually contained some well-considered advice and criticism. If she ignored everything else in the thread there were genuinely helpful posts offering critique on her timing and key frames.
She had good key frames she just needs to hold them longer, everything goes too fast to read well. And her taste is . . . well I don't think its in good taste
woops, didn't finish:
I think she could do well in the animation industry but not as a director or show runner. Not yet. But under a boss that would push her to work past her comfort zone, to tell her to choose a milder color scheme, to tell her to rework character designs withing prescribed parameters. The budgetary limitations of contemporary animation could actually dovetail well with her style, her busy character designs would HAVE to be simplified and the movement wouldn't be so swishy and floaty because the budget couldn't afford it. Were american animation still emplying key frame animators stateside I think she could do well there.
She really needs to broaden her portfolio though, she has a very particular style and her interest is obviously critter oriented. Even if I do think she could do well under supervision her artwork is so limited she might not be hired.
Although I've been wanting a cartoon by her for a long time so you're asking the wrong person. But I want a true cartoon (series with 20 minute episodes), one made alongside professionals in a studio so the work is cleaner and some of the problems like lip syncing aren't an issue.