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Why is this so fucking shit lately? It starts out fantastically! The premise is interesting, everything is moving really quickly, and there's a clear character struggle going on, what with the MC freaking out over her fear of animals and having made a deal without even realizing what she was doing. The art was also extremely expressive with gorgeous background detail without being over-designed.

Now it seems like pages are moving WAY too slowly with nothing interesting happening, and the MC and all the interesting characters are taking a backseat to boring highschool shenanigans. I get that developing characters is good and all, but you can do that through action as well! Not to mention a lot of the character designs lately look over-designed and while I can't figure out why, the comic looks more...Tumblr? I think early comic looks a lot better than it does now.

What the fuck happened? How does someone devolve as a writer and artist?
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What the fuck are you talking about, it isn't even in theatres yet you aspie.
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>>78950113
Zoophobia, not Zootopia
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It was never good anon...we just read it because it has interesting designs and colors....for me at least its one of my guilty pleasures.

The author always had these issues.she constantly over expands her world and story to the point I don't think can ever be narrowed down again.
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>>78950148
I have no idea what it is, but from that image I can tell you right now that it's deviantart trash. My goodness those designs are ugly, looks like the artist is desperately clinging to his "style" and make all the characters look the same because of it.
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It has an opossum girl now?

Isn't Viv only 21 or something?
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>>78950261
>his

That aside, yeah the comic is shit.
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I think it has a lot to do with Mr. Special snowflake addison getting in the spotlight. Dude's a cunt. Not to mention the obligatory gay love with his teacher's aide. Who is also a cunt.
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>>78950261
You have shit taste and have never been to Deviantart.
>>78950217
I think it started out fine. There were clear and defined characters, and there importance was shown from the getgo. There were conflicts and curious events unfolding and things setup that looked like they'd be important later, from the MC's fear of animals to Damian's angry outbirst to the shield protecting the school somehow getting breached by demons. But then the comic just quickly had the MC get over her fears, starting doing character switching all the time taking away from the reader a character to latch onto, and no new interesting significant developments have occurred. I'm sure Vivienne could actually make it better and more focused and everything would be just fine. She could completely ignore her fuckups and make the story more focused again. But she hasn't.
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Whoahey, is this comic drawn by the girl who does these cute animations? Is she the writer and the artist? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-PKNuZovuSw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCusehQROC8
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>>78952899
Yes and yes.
She's also getting better as an animator.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y0iOoLk8UrY
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>>78952489
You are seriously just now noticing the basic writing problems that have been there from the start. You're just used to not acknowledging these sorts of problems because you eventually get payoff. Now that you're reading something that's stalled, you're picking up on these flaws.
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I can't believe she'd try to rip off Disney like two months before the movie's out.
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>>78950089
The whole comic should've focused more on the protagonist Cameron (her condition is eponymous for the webcomic after all) rather than a bunch of multicoloured twats no one cares about
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>>78952957
Eh. Whatever this creature is, it's animation is pretty boring.
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>>78950261
Of all the things you attack, you choose the character design, which is one of the highlights of the series. The characters themselves are mostly bland, the story arcs are uninteresting and due to the long history of the characters, the comic requires context that isn't actually given to a casual reader. Still, the settings and creatures of the comic are given unique and appealing colour schemes and features.
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>>78955569
I don't think sparkle dogs have been a novel character design for decades, anon.
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>>78954048
>webcomic focusing on the wrong characters

I feel like I've heard this one before
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>>78955772
That's because it's the cardinal sin of webcomics
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>>78955666
In all fairness most every character in the picture provided has at most three base colours and the rest are shades.
Still though, point taken.
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>>78950089
>Why is this so fucking shit lately? It starts out fantastically!
>lately
>ever being good
hahahahahahahahahaha you dummy
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>>78955569
>which is one of the highlights of the series.
Man, she really has NOTHING going for her, then.
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>>78952899
>>78950148
i knew that fucker was a character from something else.
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>>78956038
The name is Rusty and the character assigned to him is generic bully.
It's disappointing since he's one of the nicer looking characters.

Something about that eyebrow raise.
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>>78956133
The eyebrow is trying to escape his face.
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>>78956148
Reminds me of someone else.
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>>78952957
She says that if she ever earns lots of patreon money she'll try to start an animation company (lol).
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>>78952957
Well that was just shit on every level except that it was over quickly.
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>>78956684
What? How old is this person?
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>>78956834
Old enough that she really should know better.
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>>78956834
21 or 22 I think.
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>>78955666
Good thing most of her characters don't resemble sparkledogs then.
>>78956684
I'd actually love it if she successfully made such a company, but that's a huge fucking investment and I don't think Patreon is going to help her there. Though she has gotten noticed by big time animators which is kind of cool and should help.
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>>78952489
>Started out
Besides the fact the artist is crazy and made a character's backstory out of petty spite (She "adopted" an OC, didnt give credit, artist got mad, she made that artist the "evil" bitch wolf in OC's history) her story hasn't even started yet. A lot of her characters are as unlikable twats. The gay snake-squirrel thing, Damian, the other gay snake guy, the cliche bully bird chicks, etc.
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>>78959515
She actually did give credit anon. His name was clearly credited.
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>>78959515
>>78959612
The original artist didn't think she gave him enough credit, or at least that's what i'm taking from it
Either way, they're both being morons
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>>78959515
Talking about jiji or how she's called?
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>>78959702
JayJay or JJ, and yes
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>>78959728
Have we entered the arc that they're going to talk about her? I started reading it and it was interesting a bit. But I wanted to wait for JJ.
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I want to get in on the joke. What makes this particular deviantArt reject so fucking special?
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>>78959827
I've fallen behind a bit, so I can't really say
I hope so, but I doubt it, last I read there was something going on with addison
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>>78959827
>>78959991
Caught up, nope, still addison
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>>78960469
Reach JJ already. I want more art of her.
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>>78959926
Its not a joke? I dunno. Her animation style is smooth and bouncy and came during a time when 2D animation is nearly dead. Her character designs are extremely expressive and she has a clear distinct style that is both difficult to replicate and unique to her. Her usage of color makes her art fun to look at.
>>78959827
No. She still hasn't appeared. And given the pace of the comic, she may never appear.
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>>78961202
how can you fit that many lies into one post?
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>>78961202
> Her animation style is smooth and bouncy and came during a time when 2D animation is nearly dead. Her character designs are extremely expressive and she has a clear distinct style that is both difficult to replicate and unique to her

have to agree, as someone who already draws and is starting to learn animation by my myself, I have to admit that she clearly has some very impressive skills when it comes to indepenent animation.

I am pretty fucking impressed that shit is done by a single person, it´s nowhere near perfect, it´s full of mistakes and shortcomings of course, but no shame in giving credit where its due.
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>>78958974
>>78961202
>>78961343
wow
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>>78961343
>I am pretty fucking impressed that shit is done by a single person
And yet this is absolutely nothing compared to other animators who actually try.
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>>78961951
Like? Honestly, who can compare? Really, I'd like to know. I like cartoons but most animators are either shit or stick to really simple artwork even if they're good.
Meanwhile this woman got a publishing company to come to her instead of the other way around and got the creator of Grim Adventures of Billy and Mandy to give her support and help in the cartoon industry.

Who else is there? Because the best I've seen from small teams/one man shows is this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qnKd8cA1e08
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Her animation is pretty decent, 7.5/10 (you can tell where she gets lazy/rushes, pretty clearly)

But her lipsyncing is horrible in every video. She needs to sing the song in front of a mirror and watch mouths, they're just flapping randomly, basically.
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>>78954132
The closest I could pinpoint it to is a Sergal
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>>78962100
Well this for starters, done by one guy and all on glass-on-paint.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W5ih1IRIRxI
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She is a talented animator and i commend her for what she does in 2D, and her stylized characters.

Can't say i'm fond of the writing of the comic. Dropped it very early on so i can't really agree on it being good in first place. It sure looks nice though.
Pic related, i don't like her attitude either.
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so
are we gona get porn of the blue dog ??
or at last more hugs
love that giant boobs
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>>78965754
Keep it blue board safe, don't want this thing getting deleted too soon
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>>78965754
>no giant werewolf waifu
Why even live?
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>>78965754
Agree, dude don't make this thread to be deleted.

Dat new art though.Make a thread to /aco/ and link it. I have a few to share
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>>78966388
/aco/ ? dats gay nigga
made it in /trash/

>>>/trash/955959

do mods are really this trigger happy now ? been outa here for weeks
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She is to Youcis as
Disney is to Bakshi
>smoother, nicer, pleasant and
>Bland.
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>>78950089
She basically set up a false premise and instead of having a centralized story like you'd think she wants to do slice-of-life bullshit with the hundreds of idiotic characters she's cooked up.
Think of it more as a series of short stories instead of one ongoing one and you'll be more comfortable.
Doesn't make it any less shit but still, what do you expect from what is essentially a professional deviantart poster?
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>>78966653
Seriously this.

I know its a lower grade of animation but this is funner to watch https://youtu.be/pBpEjBr-8Zk
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>>78950089
oh god im kind of waifuing out over that possum(?)

Is this how it starts /co/?

Right now I think a possum(?) is cute and and in a year a fapping in a possum costume?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-PKNuZovuSw
https://youtu.be/5oW5nnyjkKw
Let's compare, shall we?
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>>78966653
Mighty vs mickey mouse when?
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>>78966653
In the sense that pukis is a low grade, x-rated sack of bankrupt garbage? Yeah.
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>>78966653
Alfreaf alfer > Zoophobia
>muff said
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>>78966787
>>>/trash/
>please yiff in hell rapemonkey
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>>78966943
American Alfer is uncomfortable to watch.
>>78966653
Having to look up Youcis and Baskhi, their works are both ugly as fuck
Or is that the point? That they both do similar work but one is more fun to watch?
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>>78966943
Let's not.
>apples and
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>>78967086
I mean youcis and Bakshi are ugly, crude, x-rated and Fun.
Where Disney and Zoophobia are smooth , clean, and pop out because they're pretty and incredibly boring
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Honestly I don't dislike her even though I'm not a fan of her work. I think she needs to mature a bit and could benefit from an editor, editors are sadly underrated and misunderstood asset. Its nice to have someone to bounce ideas off of and to tell you, "Hey maybe thats not such a good idea".
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>>78967086
>American Alfer is uncomfortable to watch
Boy, dont watch the playhouse series because she pretty much directly addresses why she's so fucked up. And it's sad and REALLY discomforting
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>>78967224
> still think of the eggberts when I hear Black Dog
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>>78967086
>>78967166
>>78967224
>>78967267
https://youtu.be/_yL7AEt3IMo
Start from 1:10
>just for you guys.
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>>78967176
She seems like the kind of person honestly a lot of people my age 18-25 that can't take any form of criticism without having a mental breakdown and just plain not capable of getting shit done unless they're coddled and catered to.
I wonder if she's on medication, or exactly what kind of bubble she lives in.
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>>78967379
God that ending
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Love the art style and all, I just think that Vivienne could work on her animated videos more and work on the comic later and not try to publish it once a week. I say for her just to not publish it all and put it all on book and then publish it. But for now I think she could just focus on more bigger things like her animation. No hate or anything I think she just needs time. And depending on if the comics shit or not is undecided, I usual wait until something is done and then place my thoughts on it.
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>>78967379
Holy shit.
It's like a perfect model for depression.....
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>>78967379
I came here for technicolor possum girl, not pretentious psychobabble.
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>>78952489
>2015
>Have been to deviantart
>Defend sparkledogs
>Insult others taste
>Haven't selfharmed to death
Deviantart makes tumblr look good, and the OC roster in this comic will be right at home there.
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>>78950089
Sorry, thought that was Rita in the thumbnail
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>>78967379
That really pretty much described my experience with DID perfectly.
It really hurt.....
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>>78967379
This is poorly animated.
Poorly acted
>and I love it
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>>78966943
I have no prior knowledge of Alfred Alfer but man that girl sounds like she's in High School and that's making me uncomfortable because of the guro and etc.
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>>78967379
That was stupid
>that perfect use of a john Lennon song though.
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>>78967379
Yknow if Emily could quit special snowflaking herself as an animator and get some funding, she could be a great director under tromas tutelage.
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>>78967763
The deeper you go with her the weirder and more uncomfortable it is. I think that's the appeal though,
Try what this anon posted
>>78967379
That link is for a 3 episode mini-series.
Fucking weird shit man.
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>>78967807
>being different and artsy is special snowflaking.
Yeah okay anon why don't you go back to your STEM studies.
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>>78967379
Gonna need a lotta cigarettes for this shit.
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>>78967898
Please stay poor lib-arts trash.
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>>78967956
Oh god that's a spazkid sonichu series reference.......
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>>78967956
Is- is that from the NG Sonichu series..... I thought I was the only one?
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>>78967956
Hey blakey-bloo, shall we fuck?
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>>78968076
WHY DO YOU SOUND LIKE YOU HAVE BARBED COCK JAMMED DOWN YOUR THROAT?
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>>78968104
Uhhhh, I was suckin off a dragon for bus fare.
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>>78967379
Please, god no.
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>>78966787
>Waifuing Possums

Excellent taste anon
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>>78966787
>>78968601
Possoms are awesome.
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>>78961292
wolf thing is HUGE
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>>78969682
I know that reference, a shame it's never ever to be finished
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>>78969925
Damn, what webcomic is this? I remember reading a bunch on /co/ once, it's like MM&O if it were about vermin in high school.
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>>78970487
It's called Habits/TerribleTerribleTerrible/Clementine.

http://www.vice.com/series/habits
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I'd make sweet, sweet love to her for the soul purpose of procreation
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I want to use JayJay like a giant pillow
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>>78970487
>HURR DURR its just like MMO
Naw
>high school
The characters are pretty clearly young adults living on their own. The reason I like it so much is its a very accurate description of what my brother and his friends do, they're all minimum wage workers/factory workers living in the ghetto that just get fucked up and go to school or music venues.
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Who is best waifu?
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>>78969975
she is 11 ft tall
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>>78969975
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>>78972567
>11ft Tall
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>>78972608
>You are now thinking about all the possible wardrobe malfunctions that could happen during her transformation
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>>78972567
Jiji needs to stumble upon Kermit.
Requesting that...for reasons
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>>78950089
Didn't she throw a minor tantrum because of the new Disney movie having a title too close to hers? Zootopia and Zoophobia.
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>>78973474
Sort of, yeah. I think her main point was she's worried people who are unfamiliar with her comic will assume it's based on the Disney movie after it comes out and she'll have to explain over and over that they're unrelated. I can understand that.
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>>78967224
>addresses why she's so fucked up
It's autobiographical?
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>>78966536
>my work got posted by someone besides me.

Feels good man
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>>78961202
OP stop defending your shitty comic and animation
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>>78958974
>Though she has gotten noticed by big time animators which is kind of cool and should help.
Who? Like, actual talented professional animators or like Egoraptor? Because I honestly can't imagine talented artists looking at her work and thinking "This girl has skill" when she's so clearly amateurish and has been for four consistent years.
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>>78961343
Go out and find some real animators rather than drawing inspiration from deviantART trash.
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The art is good but the writing seems kind of directionless.
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>>78955772
A lot of creators, especially amateurs, are really bad about making something they find endearing on a superficial level, filling a story with odds and ends, and either drifting away from their core story because they planned things poorly or end up making side characters with more original, interesting, or relatable character traits and conflicts than the protagonist(s).
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>>78969975
That's why she's popular.
Really, as pandering as it would be, just making a comic about a stupid rave-werewolf would both bring in way more money for her and make for a better story.
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>>78962100
>got a publishing company to come to her
When did this happen?
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>>78972567
>she eagerly embraced the party wolf lifestyle
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>>78976881
>Egoraptor
No, not Egoraptor. I was talking about Maxwell Atoms. Hell, she's actually working with him now on his Deadmeat project.
>>78979543
A few years ago. I'm trying to go back through her blog to find it but its really fucking annoying.
>>78962368
This is damn impressive. You got me. I will say that I don't personally like it, just because I'm not fond of realistic-looking things and prefer more cartoony works. But that's damn impressive and I have to admit its way better than anything Medrano has done. Also better than that Birdboy animation I shared.
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>>78980678
*but its really fucking annoying to do so. It used to be on her site when it had a news section but now all that's there is a tumblr blog hosting her comic which makes this harder. Give me a little while longer.
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>>78976881
>Like, actual talented professional animators or like Egoraptor?
Read that as "talented professional animators like Egoraptor." Had me a mighty kek for about 2 seconds there.
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>>78980678
>>78979543
Well, I can't find it but I did find out what company it is. Vivid Publishing appears to be the one that made the offer. I'll keep looking for more info.
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>>78972556
Timber

>>78966536
Thank you Jesus
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>>78972567
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>>78972567
>Literally most popular thing to come out of all this.
>Plastered all over shit like Patreob.
>Incidental character, hasn't even appeared yet.

That's how you bait donations, kids.
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>>78972567
>fondness of nature, getting dirty and simple living
>oppreshun fightin feminist
I don't think thats feasible in the slightest
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>>78981796
No, the "people should be treated equally regardless of gender" kind of feminist, not the "men are pure evil and you should kill yourself if your gender or sexuality doesn't have at least three prefixes" kind of feminist
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>>78981796
>Huge airhead college raver who keeps themselves entertained instead of dealing with things.
>"Supports" a cause but doesn't do anything.
Sounds about right to me.
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>>78950089
Wow, is that a vixen for the movie?
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This all looks atrocious. John K wannabes shouldn't be part of the art community at all.
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>>78982119
this is about a webcomic, not Disney's zootopia
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>>78982147
Post your work.
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>>78975501
Same, man.
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>>78982201
Only a butthurt fan or the creator themselves ever resorts to "Let's see you do better." Just stop before the anon you asked that from or other anons tell you that you're being stupid.
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>>78982109
good point
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Giant werewolf boobs.
I think it's funny that the video has like 6M views but Zoophobia hasn't gotten much more popular in the process. Should have pandered harder
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bumb
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>>78983953
Why bother?
Half the thread's a stealth ad, half is people shitting on the comic, and half is "I love werewolf girls".
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>>78984578
And most of the overlap is between the second and third halves.
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>>78984875
Well of course: they have good taste.
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tfw you only give a fuck about Jack and Jill. Literally the most interesting relationship in the comic yet and its only been seen through memories.
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>>78961202
>She has a tail.
>One of the closest beings in this shit universe to resemble being 100% human and she has a fucking deer tail.

This fucking furry meme has to stop.
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>>78965754
When did /co/ degenerate to the state of enjoying vibrant coloured werewolves instead of quality waifu material?
When did it all go wrong?
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>>78986344
It's a matter of size and disposition, not color or furry-ness.
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OP is a fool, clearly trying to like something that doesnt deserve to be liked.

>Why is this so fucking shit lately? It starts out fantastically!
>fantastically!
>...Tumblr?
Your new sticks out like a sore thumb.
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>>78986715
Wow, this is probably the least noticeable false flag I've seen, good sir! Keep up the excellent work!
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>>78986754
op detected
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>>78986771
That would imply I've ever liked the comic.
Apply better tactics next time.
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>>78986869
>shit lately
this clearly implies it was once better than shit in your own perception.

>It starts out fantastically!
This is literally you saying the intro is good.
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>>78970725
>Human
>irl
>Vivienne herself
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>>78986938
You're assuming I'm OP, but I'm not, because I never liked it. That's my point, falseflag-kun.
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>>78987296
ok.
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>>78987296
Calm down, anon. It's cool if you like garbage. Every ones like something shitty.
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>>78961202
>Her animation style is smooth and bouncy and came during a time when 2D animation is nearly dead.
Holy shit, you have no idea what you're talking about. There's fucking hundreds of animations posted on YT every year, each one better than her shitty music video.

When she made that fucking atrocity, I already wrote a huge reply why it was shit. There's too much happening, she has no fucking idea how lip sync works, how to use colours, how to animate what's important. She thought that "dynamic" in animation means ALWAYS HAVING A LOT OF SHIT IN EVERY FRAME AND YOUR EYES CAN NEVER REST BECAUSE WE'RE GONNA DIE YOUNG LULZ and it gets so tiring after about a minute or so, you just want to close the video of fear of epilepsy.
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>>78955569
The character designs all have the same "emotion" It's busy, edgy, full of thin shapes. They differ inside their own paradigm so you can tell if one is supposed to be more soft or relaxed, but outside of context the characters are very similar in nature. I'm not criticizing the style itself, but it's character designs are kind of a one trick pony.
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Once a newfag shilling shit, always a newfag shilling shit.

Don't get me wrong, I used to adore her work.
Up until I realized how shitty her writing was, how shallow and bland most of her characters are, and how uninspired her artstyle is.
No kidding, she pretty much copied Jhonen Vasquez's work for her entire high school life and adapted it with other useless uninspiring over-designed trash.
She does not deserve all that money she makes from her autistic community I was once part of.
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>>78987404
>I am not OP, you are a falseflagger out to make fans of the comic look better.
>But you are le OP it's okay to like shit comics. :^)

I should have known to expect cruddy trolling from Tumblr.
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>>78970725
>soul
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>>78972567
>dyes her hair crazy colors
>is a feminist

Kek.
I like that she dyes herself different colors but the feminist thing makes me like her less. as if women are actually dealing with oppression in the western world to fight.
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>>78981064
Ow her wrist
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>>78954132
I assumed it was some kind of krampus, in context.
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>>78987459
Lip sync and inconsistent unanimated background work is the only problem with it and 90% of Youtube animations can't compare at all, and that's not what I meant when I said 2D animation is nearly dead.
>actually disliking how much happens on screen at once
But anon, that's what makes it so much fun. You have to watch it multiple times to see everything. Its the reason why watching movies animated by MADHOUSE is fun.

And I'm not even talking about solely that video when I said what I liked about it. All of her characters are extremely expressive, like the kind of shit you'd see in something like Animaniacs where character faces and body angles clearly show strong emotions to an unrealistic degree. Its smooth in that its...well, smooth. Inconsistent perhaps, but smooth.
>>78986715
I'm not sure I understand. I used to like the comic, and now I don't but I want to like it. How does this make me new? What is wrong with using the words "fantastically" and "Tumblr"? What is wrong with trying to derive enjoyment out of something?
I am new to /co/ though. I almost exclusively use /v/ and was just visiting since this comic keeps pissing me off.
>>78986771
The guy you're replying to isn't OP.
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>>78993230
>the only problem
Entire lower bodies disappearing is a pretty big problem, and that's ignoring the poor direction overall (drawing many things moving fast all the time does not a good animation make).
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Wow, can't believe this thread lasted this long
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>>78998230
Nice stealth bump
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>>78998230
Well I'm sure if has to do with anything with an artist with some art style skills than yeah.
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>>78950089
I hope the high school RELATIONSHIP thing ends sooner.
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>>79002192
>ends sooner
>one page a week
It could end in a few pages and it'd still take too long
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>>79002370
Well, I meant in comic's own time of course.
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>>78950148
>>78954198
>>78950089
There's having a style and then there's just not giving a fuck about portions what did a straight line kill her family? is she allergic to rulers? it also doesn't help that everyone has le wacky reaction face all the time
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>>78967379
I just hope it was a thought experiment and the creator really didn't go through this
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>>78972567
Her style is alright but jesus christ. Stop this woman from writing or making characters ever again

>sparkledog
>fondness for simple living and nature
>but is outrageous party animal omg. Super complex and colorful EVERYTHING FOREVER
>also feminist who fights oppreshun

The only thing missing is her being autistic or having some form of PTSD. Then she'd be a Tumblr wet dream.

What's truly laughable us she wants to make it big in the industry with just her vision. She strikes me as someone who either gets that vision or its the highway. Which does not work in a business driven by working with/under other people and corporate meddling. No room for being a diva here.
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>>79003297
She apparently tries to beg for attention from popstars who's songs she uses in her videos.
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>>79003350
Translation: She makes animations set to music then tries to ask said musicians for permission to use them when necessary.
>>79003297
She's already working in the industry. Sort of.
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>>79003428

Uh ... no. She actually begs the musicians for attention. Somebody probably has the screen shot, but her friend went to a Kesha concert and might've had the opportunity to talk to her and Viv begged her to point out her video to Kesha. Then she repeatedly tags Kesha, in multiple tweets, about the same pic she drew of her as a tribute. Just for the sake of tagging her.
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>>78986344
>any kind of waifu material
>quality
You all romanticize shit characters because they're so fucking bland and empty you can project whatever the fuck you want onto them.
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>>78992438
As someone who admits to reading because it's a guilty pleasure...that fucking dragon character is awful....it's like she came up with at a time before she knew good design and stuck to it out of spite.
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>>78961340
>>78961472
That tail size is pretty random and inconsistent. Unless that thing's power is stretching its tail, that is.
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>>79004118
He also tried to get into the pants of the spazzy blonde chick when she first got to the place
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>>78982486
Because people go to her comic to see said wolf, only to find something else.
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>>79003428
She won't make it far in the industry unless she stops the attention whoring and the petty childish spite writing. Writing that her sparklewerewolf character had a 'tragic past' by being created by someone else was so fucking cringeworthy.
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>>79005312
I would not expect anything else from her. Her drawings and writing are both over the top and overdramatized. She would react like that to what happened.
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>>79004118
for all we know, it might be
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>>78965754
Damn, you could use those things as pillows
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>>79004144
Ah, to be beautiful.
I've always imagined the flirting game was a fun one for the more aesthetically gifted.

Oh well.
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>>79005312
So what does that say about her offering her freelance services to Maxwell Atoms for Dead Meat?

Does that make her desperate for experience to put on a resume or him desperate for freelancers? Or both?

Or is she actually competent?
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>>78980907
>Vivid Publishing

Never heard of them.
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WORK OF ONE WHO CONSORTS WITH BEASTS!
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>>79009262
FORNICATE WITH BEASTS IN TARTARUS, FANCIER OF ANIMALS
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>>78961202
Literally any CalArts fourth year film is better than any of her work. The best thing she has ever made was her SVA thesis film, Timber, but I suspect it was only good because she had her teacher supervisor her the whole time. Also

>came during a time when 2D animation is nearly dead.
Does TV and Europe and Japan suddenly not exist anymore?

If Viv ever does make it in the animation industry, or even gets her own show which is delusional of her to think she can just jump right to that, it will be a huge insult to those artists who actually fucking work hard and are more deserving of jobs and chances than her. The bitch wants to start her own studio without a single piece of prior experience in the industry. I don't even think she's done internships, her resume is literally blank. The only reason she isn't living on the street is because she caters to furries and 16-year old beginner artists who admire her because they think that lots of colors and curvy lines = good. Without that sweet Patreon money, she'd be fucked hard. She really doesn't deserve any of the money she gets, she needs a wake-up call to mature and stop fucking around with e-drama and being a pathetic whiny fangirl who thinks her Vasquez rip-off style makes her a special snowflake.
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>>79010687
She can't be any worse than Brianna Wu trying to start an animation company with his parents money.

How much does Viv get from patreon?
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>>79010746
Around $1200 a month.

Also ew, Wu. Thanks for reminding me she exists.
Why are there so many girl attention whores? Are they raised up to think they are representing their gender and oppressed and feel the need to over compensate?
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>>79011454
Women are raised to be whores IE: marrying a prince charming who will provide them with all their wants.

Success is seen as latching onto another person and attention whoring is how they'll find you.
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>>79011454
>she
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>>79010687
Why do autists like you exist?
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>>78970725
She shows a lot of gum but I still think she's adorable. :3
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>>79014141
Learn how to use 4chan buzzwords before you sling them around, Viv.
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>>78950089
The thing is that there's an interesting story to be told where someone who is afraid of all these fantasy creatures is thrust into a world of them as some sort of sick plot but instead we get bcb tier highschool drama like what the fuck
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>>78954198
>>78955980
>>78959702
>>78960575
>>78963789
>>78965754
>>78992414
I don't get to post this often.
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>>79007215
She threw a fit because of Zootopia. That says it all, really.
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>>79015492
I see this posted in every Viv thread. Seems to be at least two a month.

>>79015694
Does anyone have a screencap of this?
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She just wants to be loved.
No, but really, it seems more desperate than cynical.
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>>79018736
>>79018504
>>79018439
My god.
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>>79019087
It's desperate and annoying. You say it's not cynical but it definitely feels more like someone trying to ride the coattails of someone famous by hoping they share her work on their social media causing her to get "mega e-famous" with little effort rather than just the desperate clamorings of a big fan.

Like, if she got personalized handwritten letters from Kesha stating how much she loved her video but said please, do not mention this letter to anyone, she would probably say fuck that and post it all over her Tumblr.

She literally craves attention because she has nothing else going for her. She isn't talented enough to be in the animation industry working on shows or making her own show, she doesn't have good enough connections to weasel her way her, and she's not a good enough writer where her comics grow in popularity. Literally all she has is "style" and dumb people thinking lots of frames = good animation, so she only draws and does what she thinks will make her popular.

That's probably why her comic has decreased in updates while she's been releasing constant animation videos. Those get more attention than her comics. She only cares about instant gratification and views, not long term reputation or drawing what actually makes you happy.

She comes across as a chick who wants the most for as little work as possible. She seems like someone who thinks they're above starting low on the chain as a board revisionist or clean-up artist. She just wants a STUDIO NOW, TV SHOW NOW, RESPOND TO ME NOW KESHA.
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>>79019098
Whoever is making these is really fucking autistic and quick to assume the worst. Calm down nigga. Not everyone has some malicious intent behind everything they do.
>>79014739
Its like I'm on /v/.
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>>79018736
what am I supposed to get out of this
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Does anyone has Judy screen caps from the Japanese trailer? I missed those.
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>>79022161
Wrong thread
This happened 3 times this thread. And people think its unreasonable for the artist of this comic to be unhappy about the name.
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>>79022219
Ahahahaha. I thought I was original.
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>>79022219

>thatsthejoke.jpg
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>>79022219
To tell the truth when I first heard it, I thought it was the same as well. She can't do anything about it though.
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>>79022490
She can change the name of her shitty comic. It's just a web comic, nobody is going to have a shit storm if she does.
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>>78956223
See now, that's bullshit; I actually like floating eyebrows. Dobson's given floating eyebrows a bad rap.
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The Game.
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http://www.deviantart.com/journal/My-friends-are-wonderful-and-so-are-you-guys-584080367
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So where can I find lewds of these characters?
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>>79009212
Dreamkeepers.
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>>79023871
>I want everyone who sees hateful and paranoid things written about others to actually question and learn what is going on, not to blindly make judgements, or believe statements made by cowardly terrible people.
There you go, the only proof anyone needs that she is not completely terrible. Only partially.
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>>79026574
Here's a whole thread's worth of lewd.
>>78966536
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So I checked the thing, and it updated. Looks like the drama bullshit is starting to end. Nothing too interesting though, so not linking.

I did like this face though, so here's a crop.
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>>78952899
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bEXq18W6Gss&index=50&list=FLHc8A3mQ6fI2wsK2KEEBzWA
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>>79023871
This is cringey. to read. The comments make it even cringey-er. Why do 16 year old girls think spouting faux tolerance and quotes makes them wise when they're probably some of the most intolerant people in the world. Shit, if they weren't stuck in their internet bubble all day afraid of the world, they would be real life bigots.
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>>78967956
>>78968017
>>78968044
>>78968076
>>78968104
>>78968141
The real question is why didnt spazkid contine this
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>>79027383
I used to post that thing all the time, and now you have taken the reigns. Godspeed, my nigga!
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BooPHLTrLrA
Reminder
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>Those designs
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So I know a couple of people who went to SVA browse here: Did Viv get coddled while she was in school? How the hell has she managed to avoid drawing anything from life this damn long? Literally everything on her portfolio website is the same damn picture. Did no one tell her that sometimes people like to see some range of skill and life work in portfolios rather than the same sparkle animals over and over in a portfolio?
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>>79028791
>This.
One of the best art schools in New York, the whole country even,and she got away with it. How did she get away with this?
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>>79028619
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5yArYMhprcE

>tfw no Viv edit.
Something honesltly gives me the impression She makes these threads just to shill her patreon.
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>mfw she lost 1k on her patreon
>mfw she's doing a stream showing her new patreon banners being made.

This Special snowflake is hilarious.
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>>79028791
from what i heard from people who classmate wth Viv,most of them don't have good thing to said about her.
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>>79028941
How did I do?
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>>79026764
i find it quite funny that viv even dare to say that,i mean this is the same girl who block anybody who dare question her or point out some flaws in her artworks.
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>>79028909
As good as these schools are, sometimes the professors just "pass" certain kinds of artists.
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>>79002995
She did. She said she was molested in an older comments.
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>>79029954
>she lost 1k on her patreon

LOL, when/how did this happen?
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>>79028323
He said he got bored of chrischan
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JJ is best waifu
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>>79015492
Funny how that sparklewolf has a pretty arlight design. It's like the artist couldn't bring themself to create a true sparklewolf abomination.
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I still like it.
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>>79028673
Jesus Christ thats literally some FA-tier generic furfaggotry.
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>>79033065
I don't know but she's trying to get that 1K back now, despite having merch of her art available.
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God these threads for this artist are cringy as fuck. Are these threads made by shills/white knights ?

Seriously the fuck is going on here?
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>>79036069
>>79029954
I assume she lost 1k because she lost people who genuinely were interested in her art, unless something dramatic happened to cause it. Any chance she'll crash and burn if she keeps up this dA furry style or will she always have followers?

I hope her e-fandom causes her to follow the path of Kyle or Dobson. Well known for awhile on deviantART, then suddenly dies into obscurity and nobody cares.
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>>79030679
>implying
OP here.
She does not. I've personally complained about her work before. Specifically her comic, since its what's been pissing me off of late, and she just said that she's sorry I don't like it and understands some of my concerns. You know, what you'd expect. You probably just said some asshole or autismo tier reply that probably that deserves to be blocked.
>>79036084
>make thread complaining about comic
>but somehow I'm a shill
Once again, am I on /v/?
>>79029954
>doing a stream somehow means special snowflake status
Are you retarded?
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>>79036084
There's not a whole lot to defend but some people genuinely enjoy her work for what it is.
Indulgent garbage that somehow makes money.
I'm never going to give her money but I'm not going to lie and say she has no talent or try and defend the shit choices she makes.
Its just entertaining to watch another denizen of the internet make money off a shit trend and put her issues on display.
If you're really made uncomfortable by people not outright shitting on her, why did you bother to open the thread and post? Shouldn't you be in a QC thread?
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>>79037518
>"Lemme show you guys my new patreon banners I'm making."
>"By the way, I need muh Patreon funding to keep me fed with a roof over my house."
>"Mu-muh-muh patreons."
Yeah, no. She does not deserve 1k for what shed does, let alone 2k.
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Why is this thread filled with e-celeb garbage instead of discussion about the comic?
Why are people trying to contrive ideas about the kind of person the creator is from next-to nothing?
>>79037618
A banner is a type of artwork anon. Its not unreasonable to assume that she'd do a stream of her making artwork, something that pretty much every popular artist does these days. Or does this trigger you?
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>>79037685
The comic is empty trash wasting its setting potential on 3 straight stories of highschool drama with no sign of returning to anything decent in the near future. All thats left to talk about is why someone would bother to create a world of mystical creatures only to get them caught up in petty drama and literal faggotry.
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>>79037685
>Its not unreasonable to assume that she'd do a stream of her making artwork, something that pretty much every popular artist does these days. Or does this trigger you?
It's how desperate she's getting just to promote her Patreon. Instead of giving a shit about her comic, or working on all of those WIPs she finds the time to update her Patreon banners. For what purpose? She's already making enough on Patreon and she's got merch that she can sell.
Maybe she should take into consideration that she's been VERY inconsistent with her comic. She's been working with that asshole Addison for nearly five fucking months, senpai.
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>>79037741
I'd still prefer that to e-celeb garbage.
>>79037811
Fair enough. She really should be working on literally anything else. And its so strange. Addison, despite all this time on her, isn't interesting. Despite all the focus, I still couldn't say anything about her personality or what her character is nor what her purpose in the story serves. Other characters that haven't even gotten as much focus have more defined personalities and importance.
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>tfw no giant sparkle werewolf gf.
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>>79037872
Analysis of the author is important to the reception of their work and helps set context for the artistic choices they make.
As it stands shes an ambitious young woman with a modicum of talent that hasn't been refined enough to make her truly stand apart from the rest of the dA sparkledog pack past she somehow made it through artschool and is making money on a comic she neglects that started off with promise but fizzled out into trite melodrama.
I already read BCB, and it doesn't even come close to eclipsing that pile of mediocrity in the melodrama.
The only other thing she has to her name are her animations, only one of which resembles a final product.
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>>79037872
Exactly.
All we know about this character is that he does art and he's gay for an art teacher. A handful of characters have more development than him and we've had five months of this kid.
I'll admit, the early development was at most decent, but now literally nothing is happening.
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>>79037872
Addison is actually a dude but the writing is so bad you can't tell and also he looks like a girl but that just ups the faggotry of the entire webcomic
>>79037999
>I already read BCB
I'm so sorry
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>>79037811
/co/ please explain patreon to me. Many online content creators that I enjoy have switched to patreon and their work has slowed to an absolute crawl. I understand that they're probably making shit for people who willing to spoon feed them every month but I'm not gonna pay these dweebs $5 a month for 3 5 minute YouTube videos.

Like what's the appeal? Is for people who can't get sponsors?
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>>79036084
Most just want to fuck the blue werewolf
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>>79041147
People feel the need to support these content creators by giving them their sheckles. The reason why these people feel the need to do this is a mystery to me. Maybe it's to get the perks the content creator gives out to their patreons, but one thing is for sure is that it makes hardly any difference to the quality or even quantity of content made by the creator.
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>>78950217
>It was never good anon...we just read it because it has interesting designs and colors....
Is this comic like the Avas Demon of the furry community?
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>>79042736
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Trash thread.
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>>79046654
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So is this even worth reading or will I have a better time shoving a jar of peanut butter up my ass?
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>>79047409
Depends on how much you enjoy shoving a jar of peanut butter up your ass
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Wow this turned into an insult thread no less than a few days.
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>>79048430
I'm sure everyone's had their piece to say regarding the comic.
But let's face it, ANY thread related to Viv and her work will get derailed into Sparklewerewolf erotica and waifuism.
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>>79048945
Tru dat.
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>>78952899
>>78952957
I'm not impressed. The sequences are very contrived (music videos of dancing and lip syncing, with no surprising juxtapositions) and the art style squishes the lines of the character's silouhettes too close to each other, causing the forms to appear too thin to grasp (especially around the mouths and arms).

I also can't get over how the animal characters seem to be animals for the sake of being animals--nothing is really done with the fact that they're animals. Even in some cartoons like Regular Show where the character's animal appearence serve no apparent purpose, at the least the forms of the characters reveal a bit of their personalities (the racoons short stature betrays his childishness and the bird's skinny frame with the slim legs gives him the same silhouette as a tight-jeans hipster). But what does a fucking wolf have to do with Christmas, and how does his cheshire-cat smile and tuft of red hair relate to either the song he's singing or the holiday he's celebrating. It reeks of furry.

It strikes me as the work of someone enamored with their ability to create, rather than their ability to create something memorable and clever.
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>>79049433
Just to clarify, this is related moreso to the Kesha and Most Wonderful Time of the Year videos rather than her thesis film. That one I'm not impressed with either only because it relies on the "us vs them mentality is bad" archetype without doing anything interesting with it. "One eye and two eye, they don't get along, but when they work together, isn't it beautiful!" That's cool, I guess.
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>>78950089
She's busy working
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>>79049637
On what exactly?
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>>79048430
If the author was less of a childish drama whore, we would just repeat ourselves with how bad her comics are then it would die after a few posts.
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Is this thread is going to last a week?
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>>79049844
Depends how much you want to stealth bump it, anon.
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>>78952957
those character proportions look absolutely shit!
Honestly this has got me offended as both an artist and a animator.
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>>79048945
You say that like it's a bad thing
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>>79052623
But that's all we ever talk about.
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>>79055099
If you don't like it the door's right there.
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>>78972567
>Is a feminist <3 <3
>works to help fight oppression
Oh god...
But you'll still love her because she's hot, right /co/?
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Stealth bump
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Why it's called zoo if it isn't Zootopia thread?
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>>79055936
I try to ignore those parts
She's cute enough that I can
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>>79055936
I don't really consider
>is a feminist
to mean anything bad by itself.
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>>79058352
Because everyone who isn't an inbred idiot is a feminist. No actual semi-intelligent person believes women deserves less in modern day America. So to actually label yourself as progressive, feminist, pro-gay or whatever the fuck in 2016 is a laughable joke. It's basically like saying "I think poverty is bad!".

So to actually waste a character trait by describing your sparklewolf which still tells us nothing about them other than the author themselves can't fucking write is bad.
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>>79048095
For real, is it enjoyable in any sense? Is it possibly worth a read in the slightest, even if it just looks like furries and sparkledogs?
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>>79059765
Story's moving incredibly slow, and currently focussing on highschool drama
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>>79059765
The art' s better than the writing
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>>79058950
That's is what feminism should be...but sometimes I wonder that the problem is what people think feminism is....there are a lot of people who don't seem to understand what it is.

I still hear girls say I don't consider myself a feminist or anything...

It's sad but people really think it's a fanatical cult or something rather then just upholding the ideal of simple equality..

While agree with your statement, sometimes the statement is needed. In this comic though, probably not.
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>>79063039
The loudest most seen/shown of any group are always the worst of that group. This even applies to here with how people think all of 4chan is like /b/. For furries, it's the faggots who run around in fursuits.
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>>79063039
>>79058950
>mfw people still think equality can be championed by a group focused entirely on the betterment of the position of one sex

You guys crack me up
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>>79063197
>tfw I always think people are saying equality as in literally all equal instead of being on equal terms.
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>>79063197
>mfw nobody actually thinks that
>they're all just patting women on the head and humoring them
>it's one giant patriarchal joke behind women's backs
>everyone just took the joke too far until people forgot it was a joke
>now people take it seriously because the mad men of last generation forgot to let the modern men of this one in on it
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has the trap kid fucked or gotten fucked yet
that's the only reason I could care about this
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Threads like these make me regret ever calling /co/, /co/mblr.

My faith in this board is somewhat ... restored?
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>>78972567
>Trying to make her image read more easily
Jesus christ.
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>>79063039
Feminism has been irrelevant as a movement for well over 30 years and at this point its a sad corpse of a pile of propaganda. Accept this and move on. There is NOTHING redeemable about the modern feminist movement which is why everyone with self-awareness that isn't a plebe has dropped the label. Its not making a come back. You want people to be feminists? Accept that its a dirty word and more people would rather move on from the identity politics game to shit thats actually worthwhile like basic human rights.
It IS a sad little cult, which is why nobody with a brain wants to single themselves out as a feminist and what that actually means in the modern political arena. This doesn't mean people don't believe in equal rights you tool.
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>>79049637
>>79049731

Most likely on her her school work and/or her actual paying job.
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i would fuck that wolf
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>>78972567
Unf
>those paws
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>>79065006
Well thank god you got to hear to me straight!
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>>79067413
>hear...

That's what I get for typing on phone
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>>79066716
She graduated years ago.
She has no actual job. The most she is doing is freelancing for Maxwell Atoms. She has been unable to get an actual hourly-based job.
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>>78950089
>Why is this so fucking shit lately? It starts out fantastically!
It's premise had some promise but the creator showed no development in her art, couldn't take criticism, and didn't know how to run a concise story.
Rather than follow around the clear main character and whatever interesting hijinks that could come out of that, she decided to run with this "everyone's a main character and there's millions of characters!" bullshit and shove in her middle school fantasies and gay ships.
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>>78954198
it's so fucking BUSY!
God and it has no depth either!
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>>78972567
>can't decide on color so she can be ANY COLOR
>Scene look
>feisty, haters gonna hate attitude
>raver
>"getting dirty and simple living" yet "scared of frogs" and "party wolf lifestyle"
>"works to fight oppression" and "confident in her body and size"
>"sometimes plans parties with spam" because LOL SO RANDUM
>werewolf culture dyes it's fur unatural ways to express themselves

Jesus tittyfucking christ this is like a new evolution of middle school scene sparkledog bullshit. We have transgressed that plane to come to this. It has ever goddamn stereotype crammed into this abomination of a character. She already bleeds mary sue and she hasn't even been in the comic yet. Fucking astounding.
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>>78981920
>No, the "people should be treated equally regardless of gender" kind of feminist, not the "men are pure evil and you should kill yourself if your gender or sexuality doesn't have at least three prefixes" kind of feminist
Not with that look
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>>79003836
She did, it was a design she came up with in middle school that is essentially what happens when you combine invader zim with notebook paper
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so the person who made that animation also does a comic? or are these two different people?
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>>79067242
I thought her name was Jiji
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>>79070300
it was
she changed
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>>79069879
desu i would fuck the wolf
she seems like she would be a good lay
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>>79068172
Oh in that case she has no excuses.

I'm just used to most web artist actually working a real paying job and the web art stuff is just a hobby and beer money maker.
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>>79069879
Spam is a character, just so you know
She's not talking about that canned meat product
Why she thought Spam was a good idea for a name is a whole 'nother matter
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>>79071185
No, there's a reason she's really desperate for people to donate to her Patreon which has been increasingly losing money. It's literally her only reliable source of income at the moment.

The problem is her comic has gone on for so long people are now realizing there's nothing to it and it will never built. I believe she said herself the first two books are only about character and the actual "story" won't start until book 3. Which is stupid because those two things go hand in hand, not one at a time. Plus all her e-drama and childish attitude has caused people to drift away from her and be interested in her as an artist.

That causes her to lose money on Patreon, then she has to put her comic on hold so she can do some freelance animation here and there to make up for it. Causing even MORE of a loss in fanbase because you can only keep up with a dying comic for so long before losing interest.

Which makes her MORE desperate, which makes her spend more time trying to hook people in which makes her delay her comic and other work that people were interested in the first time even more.

She's basically spiraling down e-bankruptcy. She can't even financially manage a Patreon and the girl actually thinks she can open up a studio.
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>>79070349
what about just spooning instead
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>>79071320
I'd be okay with that
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Y'know, I just realized why this werewolf's design is frustrating me.

She's supposed to be eleven feet tall, but she's proportionally "shorter" than she is as a human that's only 5'6''. It's hard to get a sense of scale from her because she stays at just about five heads instead of ever reaching the relatively reasonable proportionality of 6 or 7 heads.
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>>79072641
>this
I swear, in the animation she looks to be the size of 5"6, 5"7, 5"8 or 5"9, but in >>78972608's image she looks as though she only grew 3 ot 4 feet higher.
Does it say what height she is when she's human? She looks to be about 5"9 or 6"0, which doesn't make any sense at all.
Also IF JayJay is 11" tall then how big is that fox thing on her head? I'd imagine she's the height of a small 7 year old child. Bear in mind each of these character's weight. Jayjay is holding a child up with just her her with no issues.

Was she not taught weight and proportion size at SVA?
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>>79072889
niquie is pretty small
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>>79072889
Weight has never been a strong suit of Viv's.
Or sense of timing.
Or spacing.
Or clear poses.
Or space consistency.
Or proper stretch n squash.
Or color design.
Or character design.
Or layout design.
Or writing.

Would you believe she has a BFA in animation?
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>>79072991
she should just give up and draw porn desu
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>>79072912
Judging by this image I'm guessing IF Jayjay's 11ft tall then Niquie's about 4ft tall roughly.
Not just that but every other character in that image is no less than 6"5 or 6"6.
So this image from her web comic makes sense I guess.
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>>79072889
>Was she not taught weight and proportion size at SVA?

She was. She just ignored it
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>>79073023
>Wanting disproportionate porn
Please, leave the porn to the anons who have actually learned this shit.
As for Viv...As soon as she loses too much Patreon funding her shit will most likely get fucked, senpai.
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>>79073251
>Not wanting disproportionate porn
Don't be so vanilla.
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>>79072912
imagine a threeway with jayjay and niquie
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>>79073293
You're right. It is pretty good.
but Vivienne and her characters are not.
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>>79073357
I'd rather see Cameron, Timber and Fabian fuck.
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>>79072912
I've only just started reading this, you mean to tell me there are going to be even MORE boring-ass characters to lessen my enjoyment of the comic?
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I don't get it . /co/mblr was literally sucking this sheboon of an artist vagina dick a while ago when she released that dancing wolf thing. Now ... now /co/mblr is flinging shit at this artist?

Are... are you trannies on your metaphorical cycle or some shit? Did she insult a feminist? What gives /co/mblr? Why aren't you sniffing her ass out?
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>>79073499
have you never heard of boredom?
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>>79048430
>Too right, but I'm sure this thread will go actually somewhere and die soon.
>Yeah. We can't say the same for Viv and her work however.
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>>79073499
>/co/mblr was literally sucking this sheboon of an artist vagina dick a while ago
The realization of her lack of artistic talent and knowledge, how shit she is at writing and just the sheer fact that she's doing nothing interesting right now.
But looking back now I can see she's always been shit.
>pic semi related to what's being produced by this incompetent human being.
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http://laurenmeetsworld.tumblr.com/post/123706370246/dear-vivienne-4chan-is-attacking-zoophobia
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>>79073499
>Thinking people were lapping the animation up
>The majority was shitting on it
Should've just said you were wrong since you immediately said /co/mblr.
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>>79073766
Of course tumblr gets Butthurt
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>>79073766
top fucking kek
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>>79073766
Not only is this not relevant (in a major way at least) but the post is detailing the whole fuck-up between tumblr and 4chan a good while ago.
I thought for a second someone just now posted that in response to criticism or hatred towards Zoophobia in this thread.
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>>79073925
>Wanting relevant posts on 4chan.
You're on the wrong website, buddy.
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>>79074020
I was just noting that it wasn't, nothing's wrong with no relevance in most cases.
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>>79073766
>If you don’t know what 4chan is it’s a terrible website ran by people who try to get people to commit suicide.

The goddamn irony is too strong! Send help!
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>>79074186
>is too strong!
kill yourself
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>>79074211
>Being this autistic over a set of words
Calm down?
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>>79074237
it's an old meme and it gave me a chance to be ironic.
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>>79073766
Hol up? We be planning a raid on this shitty fandom? Since fucking when?!?
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>>79074392
>falling for the raid meme
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>>79074392
>6 months ago
Lrn2read for everyone's sake, please.
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>>79074417
Listen mr. Autismo calm your shit bro ok. Calm the fuck down.

I'm just calling out on their bullshit.
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>>79074484
Calm down fuckface, mr.Autismo was just calling YOU out on your bullshit.
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>>79072641
Have a shitty, quick sketch.
I'm not going to invest the time to actually draw it well, but it does illustrate that you can make an eleven foot tall character less than eleven heads tall but still clearly taller than a 5/6 foot-ish character without necessarily having them next to each other.
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>>79073293
I'm proud to be vanilla.
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>>79075516
>the midway point where sizes and proportions are are in flux
Love that
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>>79078605
Same. It's always goofy looking and gives off an impression of spontaneity.
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>>78950148
I would that kangaroo in the bottom left
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>>79079969
I'm guessing you're talking about kayla
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>>79072912
I'd.
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>>79081829
Yeah.
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>>79072991
Writing has nothing to do with knowing how to animate, obv.

The other stuff though, eesh.
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>>79084520
No, but I was saying that is something they teach you in animation school: Storytelling. Like, JQ Quintel's short film has next to no artistic skill but it was least funny enough to showcase his comedy writing skills.

Viv came out of school with nothing. Either she got gypped or breezed her way through school.
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>>79037618
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This entire thread is an example of what happens when you suck dick to get through art school instead of actually working for your grade.
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>>79085124
This could be applied to any poster, including you.
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So I went to SVA alongside Vivienne. I wasn't her friend, just classmates so I don't know a lot personally. However, I do know that SVA's talent pool is so far below compared to CalArts (I am strictly speaking their animation majors) who actually regulates their applicants it's almost laughable. As long as you have a portfolio and can pay, SVA will accept you. I've seen students get accepted who couldn't even draw. They've accepted so many students the past couple of years because of how easy it is to get accepted, they've had to open up more animations studios just for classes.

Because of SVA's loose standards, they are _desperate_ to showcase already e-popular artists. When Steven Universe was airing, they sucked Sugar's dick really hard over there. Steven Universe merch and trinkets were spread around the hallways, teachers showed off her early animation work she did for their classes and continue to "casually" talk about her to impress the students.

Almost half the people who go to CalArts get a show, so they don't boast about it because it's so often. However, SVA literally only has Rebecca Sugar. They've already ruined themselves by being so frivolous with accepting applicants that all they can do is piggyback on already popular people. What the hell does this have to do with Vivienne? It's in response to this:

>>79085124
Vivienne didn't suck the dicks of her teachers. No no, SVA is currently sucking her dick. Her thesis film is one of THE most viewed animation videos to come out of that school and they are riding that hard. When they released a collection of thesis films to showcase one year, they got Vivienne to do the cover of the DVD, pic related (Rebecca Sugar's thesis is also on the DVD if you were wondering).

Viv was just as terrible then as she is now at drawing. Her style has not changed a bit. But because she drew a LOT and finished assignments, she was able to pass classes because that's all that matters.
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>>79085542
that sounds pretty lame for a school
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>>79085964

That's actually how MOST art schools are operating now, I was looking to go into Animation, but the ONLY place I would wanna go is CalArts, which does not accept transfer credits and is over 200k to go, might as well go into the med. field at that point then go gov. work, DOD (Department of Defense) or military. I have my Associate's in Fine Art, I went to comm. college, but I got a lot out of it, but the students are shit and are a joke, usually rich kids thinking becoming an artist is "super duper easy career". They also will pass anyone along as long as they hand in an assignment. Literally saw people paint and draw like a three year old and got an "A" while other people drew hours and hours a day, both personal studies and class studies and took it seriously, and were ranked the same as the shmucks who were garbage, it's a money game for college and that's NO JOKE.
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>>78970725
I want to hate fuck Vivienne.
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>>79085542
Okay, NOW I know everything.

Or, at least, everything according to you.
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>>78950089
These slutty looking chicks need to shave their hairy legs.
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>>79087669
Words like that earn an execution around these parts.
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>>79087831
Then you admit it to be the truth.
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WHAT THE FUCK IS SCRUNDLE!
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>>79086313
The problem is, because of how high tuition is, it would be horse shit if you were unable to pass because of skill, as weird as that sounds.

Imagine doing all the work then getting a failing grade because you aren't good enough and then being unable to advance to the next year which means you have to pay an EXTRA 30k - 40k to retake classes?

By raising standards for art classes, we won't solve the problem by having more talented people graduate. We would just have an increase in dropouts or young adults being even more in debt than what we have now.

It's a really shitty system but if there's a choice between "Anyone can be an artist (with a degree)" and "Anyone rich can be an artist", might as well not screw over normies who take out hundreds of thousands in loans and let them be bad artists just like the richies.
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>>79087941
Where'd you see that?
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>>79087941
What?
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>>79087669
A trimming would do. I do not understand why you would shave an animals leg hair, even if they act or walk like a human.
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>>79087941
THE JUICE IS LOOSE
I DON'T GIVE A FUCK
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>>79087941
it's made with apples
well, mostly apples
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Oh hey, a reason to post this thing.
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>>79091570
What comic is this?
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>>79092379
http://www.vice.com/series/habits
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>>79085542

SVA Grad here can confirm this post.

Though Vivienne slept through most of her classes or stared at her tumblr
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>>79072912

she should learn something about character design contrast

when all of your characters are multicolored fox-cat-things with human proportions only dedicated furries will be interested in all of them
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I want Jiji to lift me off the ground and hug me
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>nobody posted this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MLqtHTXyPZs
Blebeians.
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>>79093052
Get out, namefag.
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>>79093227
No you, another namefag pretending to be anonymous.
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>>78950089
I FEEL YOUR HEAAART BEAT
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>>78961472
I want to fuck Zecharia
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>>79093052
>banjo has no strings
>barely drawn later as not even full lines
>pulling shows no real gravity or weight
>look just like standing still at 45 degree angle
>shitty throwing animation
>shitty burning up sound effect
>thr muppets
>Nicki Minaj
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>>79070318
Well screw that. She will always be Jiji.
...except when shes a edgelord for no reason. See >>78992414
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>>79072641
>>79072889
>>79072912
Maybe Jiji went to Bowser's Monster size difference class
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>>79002739
it is called a preference, you have it and so does she
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>>79072912
>>79082672
How do you pronounce her name?
(NeNe Icke)?
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>>79072912
>checkers as a fur color
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>>79096709
It goes beyond preference when you're unintentionally making glaring mistakes.
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>>79092449
Really?
Wow. And to think I actually admired her and her work. Goes to show I guess.
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>>79093323
TO THE BEAT OF THE DRUMS
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>>79097895
>link
"Everything posted here is a work of fiction. Only a fool would take any of this for real."
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>>79097895
>fully believing the story
Take things with a grain of salt, instead of swallowing the whole spoon.
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>>79030418
>How did I do?

You did gr8 m8.
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>>79096869
Nicki, nicki minaj is her "voice"
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>>79092715
Me too man, me too
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>>79085542
>they are riding that hard.
What's funny is that, at this rate, she's not going to make anything of herself

Yeah she can draw/animate halfway decent but she has no clue how real world jobs work, nor does she seem to have any connections within the animation industry anyway.
If she does get hired, it'll be a big slap in the face from reality
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>>79072912
god the art is just hot garbage
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>>79073766
I don't get it how do they know whats happening here if they hate the place so much? do they hate browse the board or something
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>>79098880
I.....I didn't laugh....or really show any emotion whatsoever.
Even if I had context...what the living fuck was that?
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>sparkledog mary sue comic
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>>79099130
It's a fucking shame because her KEYFRAMES are there. But her timing and spacing is so horrible that it looks so fast, you can't register all the good key poses there, and it feels so busy.

She could be really good if she self analyzed herself instead of listening to only the praise.
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>>79099130
her WIPs always look better than her finished work
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>>79049433
>>79049597
Jesus Christ. Aside from the first line, these are some of the most pretentious and vapid critiques I've ever seen.
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>>79099094
It's impossible to take anything that undertale fans says seriously.
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>>79099335
They only posted a reaction gif, that with no context is just a skeleton throwing himself out of a window.
It's also impossible to even take you seriously, thanks to the image you just posted.
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>>79099452
He's also using shitty logic that can be turned against him too. The work.actions of a single person means all the group are the same. So everyone on 4chan are cyber terrorists who fap and distribute child porn.
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>>79099130
>that cute little tail wag
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>>79099620
Remember, she's 11 feet tall. Her tail is probably has big as an average human.
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>>79099335
"And when everyone is special, then no one is."
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>>79099678
I have no problem with that
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>>79098880
I know a few girls like this, they are unbearable, they'll fuck but man you better wrap that dick cause you're not the only one she's fucked or will fuck.
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>>79100453
I know, Absolutely HARAM.
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Be honest /co/, if you were a talent coordinator looking for someone to hire, would you be impressed by this portfolio?
https://viviennemedrano.carbonmade.com/
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>>79027383
what's that audio effect at 1:47? warning turn your vol down
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>>78950089
and here we are ...

praising this "hack" of an artist yet again?

The fuck /co/mblr. Are you guys taking hormone supplements again or what?
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>>79100991
No one is really praising her in this thread, most of it is "I wanna fuck the giant sparkle werewolf"
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>>79100991
I'm so glad people like you are allowed to even come here, seeing as how you cannot grasp the idea of reading comprehension and you barely read the thread.
Please note that anytime you say /co/mblr, no one will take you serious.
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>>79101062
I wanna read a comic about sparklewolf, where she's the only absurdly gaudy character of the bunch.

You could take it literally or as a metaphor. It could be fun.
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>>79101229
That's the thing, when all the characters are gaudy colors/neon puke color schemes they just become generic and the ones with more muted and normal colors stand out more
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>>79101304
I'm just saying that a raving college werewolf sparkledog is just odd yet relatable enough to make a story around with some effort. The rest of the cast is either too abstract or too overbearing to make them central characters.
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>>79099678
thats kinda hot
like super hot
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>>79101772
Her ass is out of proper proportion due to Viv's style, so it's at least four times bigger than a human head.
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>>79100698
>not using a reaction image
>just saying the meme
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i want to rub the giant werewolf's paws
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>>79100991
>praising this "hack" of an artist yet again?
>OP's post literally starts off with "why is zoophobia shit"
>praise
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>>79100843
No. Because I don't have the desire to hire someone who doesn't know what they're doing and only operates in one art style of which is "her own".
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>>79100843
What an I coordinating for?
Do I have an office?
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>>79101860
tfw she will never make you lick her sweaty paws after a party
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>>79102013
You have a broom closet and a laptop.
You're coordinating ~talent~.
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>>79102165
Nice.
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>>79099130
See I look at this and I have to disagree with people who say she doesn't have talent. She does, she really does . . . but her work needs polish.

The first few threads after the release of her music videos actually contained some well-considered advice and criticism. If she ignored everything else in the thread there were genuinely helpful posts offering critique on her timing and key frames.

She had good key frames she just needs to hold them longer, everything goes too fast to read well. And her taste is . . . well I don't think its in good taste
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>>79104127
woops, didn't finish:

I think she could do well in the animation industry but not as a director or show runner. Not yet. But under a boss that would push her to work past her comfort zone, to tell her to choose a milder color scheme, to tell her to rework character designs withing prescribed parameters. The budgetary limitations of contemporary animation could actually dovetail well with her style, her busy character designs would HAVE to be simplified and the movement wouldn't be so swishy and floaty because the budget couldn't afford it. Were american animation still emplying key frame animators stateside I think she could do well there.

She really needs to broaden her portfolio though, she has a very particular style and her interest is obviously critter oriented. Even if I do think she could do well under supervision her artwork is so limited she might not be hired.
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>>79100991
Yes, I adore her as an artist. But if you actually read the thread and read the OP, you'd know I was complaining about the comic's writing.
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>>79100843
Yes
Although I've been wanting a cartoon by her for a long time so you're asking the wrong person. But I want a true cartoon (series with 20 minute episodes), one made alongside professionals in a studio so the work is cleaner and some of the problems like lip syncing aren't an issue.
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