how bad where they and are any of them salvageable?
i liked the little mermaid sequel
she gave me eyebrow fetish at an age of 14
Well, they made a Fox and the Hound 2, of all things. If it was a sequel it might have been okay, but no, it was a midquel.
It's nice as it's own film and it's actually fun to watch, but trying to squeeze it into the first is impossible, not to mention it's painful to watch when you know they grow up to fight and then separate.
Why does everyone always forget to mention The Rescuers Down Under?! That movie was great, even better than the original The Rescuers. Other than that the only disney sequels I ever watched were The Return of Jafar and Lilo & Stitch 2. Return was pretty good and worth watching if you liked Aladdin. Lilo & Stitch 2 didn't impress me but I didn't particularly like original either.
I never see Homeward Bound II get any love.
Sure, it's a 90's quick-cash-grab-while-it's-still-relevant direct-to-VHS sequel, but it's really nice to see the characters have an adventure in a comfy urban setting. Plus there's some genuine feels near the end with Chance and Delilah's love story. At the very least it's a lovely little nostalgia trip.
Right, the movie about Kronk. The movie that is all about Kronk. Kronk's movie.
Uhh... That movie?
We see the relationship between Bambi and his father, both of which get a lot of character development along the way. It's not a magnificent movie and has a lot of goofy "kiddie" parts but all in all a good movie despite being DTV.
This Here The Rescuers Down Under Started the Animated Sequel trend and Disney saw it was a success, I have no idea how it went from making good Sequels like The Rescuer, to Just fucking bad like Pocahontas II BAD.
Here's a list in case you forgot, though I wouldn't blame you for forgetting.
>Lady and the Tramp 2
I don't mean to promote youtube celebrities, but Lindsay Ellis (Nostalgia Chick) did two really good video's about this.
Short answer: All of them where on a spectrum between offensively Bad and just Boring. They where all made to be the cheapest, blandest, products to create brand name recognition with kids.
Part of the problem is that they where made by the DisneyToon studios, which was Disney's Saturday TV cartoons arm. And that really shows in the budget and production value of these films. None of them have any "stakes". They all have the urgency of a TV episode.
None of them are "salvageable" and none of them warrant repeated viewings.
What about Tarzan 2: George Carlin Boogaloo?
Also, my problem with most of these sequels is how shameless they were, the plot is shit and the animation is so half-assed, T2 is one of the few I can think of where the animation wasn't as bad.
Fucing this. Why are goofy movies so based?
I know some people that liked this one so much they actually forgot there was "one where they were in the woods," and get confused about which movie came first.
What I'm really curious about is how many people are aware that the 90s Homeward Bound movie is actually a remake of a film from the 60s.
Post your face when the memories come back to you.
I found it weird that they all where variations on "the kids of the cast from the first movie doing the same stuff their parents did in the first time" and "oh, it's the villain from the first films son/sibling/possible offspring".
Yeah, her review on them was pretty informative.
I have to disagree about them being all that bad, though. One of the biggest things against Disney sequels is that they are Disney products, which are generally of a higher quality. And that they are being directly compared to their originals, which are some of the best loved animated movies ever. But when compared to other lower quality direct to vhs or dvd animated films, or films from studios that turn out less iconic products, they're really not so bad. They're mostly just mediocre.
Bambi II had surprisingly good animation.
The only scene I thought was awkward and poorly written was when the stag was bonding with babby Bambi and blew on his tummy. Made me cringe so hard.
DisneyToon Studios animated for several theatrical films:
>DuckTales the Movie: Treasure of the Lost Lamp
>A Goofy Movie
>The Tigger Movie
>Return to Never Land
>The Jungle Book 2
>Piglet's Big Movie
>Pooh's Heffalump Movie
>Planes: Fire and Rescue
Some of them aren't direct sequels, but all of them are at least based off of previously-released material.
really? I haven't seen Bambi in years, seriously no personality at all?
I never knew there was a 1. The movie wasnt named anything like 2 or II or whatever in my country, but the father comments on them being gone once before in the movie, which puzzled 7-year old me to no end.
I don't know if I would feel the same watching them today, but as a kid I actually liked Aladdin and the King of Thieves better then the original. John Rhys-Davies as Aladdin's father was GOAT.
This one was fairly good for a sequel.
I think you kind of misinterpreted the movie if you think that was the entire point.
Kind of confused me why they decided to make a movie introducing and pretty much starring a completely new character when they already had such a large cast that hadn't yet been fully fleshed out. Same with Secret of Wings. They turned out to be good movies, but I'm still sore I'll never get a proper Silvermist film.
It helped that the new character and the story of the movie were both interesting. Still, if they were making a full TV series using the main six, like what was done with
Strawberry Shortcake, they'd have plenty of episodes to give each fairy time in the spotlight. With the movies, it seemed more like Tinker Bell (and also Her Friends), up until Legend of the Neverbeast.
>forgetting the most famous scene in Bambi
>forgetting the forest fire
>forgetting the hierarchy angle
Sure, it was 80% fucking about, but when the chips went down, there was definitely personality.
I personally didn't like it. It forces the feels a little too hard for me.
Again, though, that's personal taste. I was never into sappy 70s country movies. I didn't even care for Where the Red Fern Grows for the same reasons.
>What I'm really curious about is how many people are aware that the 90s Homeward Bound movie is actually a remake of a film from the 60s.
I actually saw the 60s film (The Incredible Journey) first. I think one of the television networks aired it in anticipation of the new movie at one point. They were almost the same movie, but the original was narrated like a documentary.
I really preferred the original. I hated that they gave the animals goofy cartoon voices. It completely changed the tone of the story.
growing upand taking care of you responsibilitiesand dealing with the fact your parents are gonna to die and you will substitute them, sooner or later
even more so in the book since it ends
with Bambi without his father, and with his romantic relationship falling, wondering were it went wrong, finally living in solitude as the new protector prince of the forest just like his father said it would be
Return of Jafar
Aladdin and the King of Thieves
Peter Pan 2 : New Loli in Neverland
Rescuers Down Under
Kronk's New wave
Lion King II
Lion King 1/2
Goofy Movie 2
Little Mermaid 2
Little Mermaid 3
Fox and Hound 2
>The Fuck I Am Watching?
I have huge trouble getting over the animation quality in the sequels, though I guess that's just because the originals were on a completely different level of effort
I'm really glad Frozen II won't be on the same toon tier
Just finished it. Wasn't anything great but really not bad. It did get really dark, but I was upset that they didn't take the opportunity to kill off a couple of characters (Chief should have died and I honestly wouldn't have minded if Tod died, but I'd probably cry like a little bitch) and the setting was boring, but it had a lot of good stuff everywhere else. Good story, good themes, and I really liked Tod's love interest storyline.
Agreed, except I'm not as familiar with the 60's film, but instead read the book. It is a damn good book and it's a shame the most badass moments couldn't be put into the 90s film I grew up with.
My mom bought me this movie instead of the original. I didn't see the original until I was a jaded teenager. The sequel is the one I have fond memories of, and it's shit. Kill me.
>mfw watching Mulan 2
How could they ruin every character so quickly
>no 101 Dalmations 2
It focused more on being hilarious than anything.
Utilized the hell out of Barry Bostwick and Jason Alexander.
It wasn't better than the original or any bullshit like that, but it knew its limits and played to its strengths, and ended up being a good movie as a result.
The story was basically Bolt years before Bolt and done much better. Considering the deluded movie star in this case was Thunderbolt, I seriously think Bolt was just trying to expand the idea with a new IP.
>Aristocats was going to get a sequel but production was cancelled after Disney acquired Pixar
Fuck, It probably wouldn't have even been good, but I just really want to see more adventures with that cute cat family
The Land Before Time sequels are nowhere near as bad as NIHM 2. At least they resemble their original film in that they're heartwarming and tackle issues like racism and creationists-- NIHM 2 is literally nothing like its original.
> The Aladdin sequels
> Stitch Has A Glitch
> Bambi 2
> Lion King 1 1/2 and Simba's Pride
> Tarzan 2 (technically a midquel)
Those are the best. Passable ones include
> Little Mermaid 2
> Rescuers Down Under
Then there's "Oh god why" sequels like Jungle Book 2, Fox and the Hound 2, etc
I think Disney did great with the Ariel's Beginning prequel, though.
How's this one, /co/? My best friend and I are huge fans of the original
does it at least have qt Jane junglesurfing?
Best one comin through
>based John Candy
>based George C. Scott
>based Australian mousebro
>beautiful animation (that fucking flight scene and Rescuer INTERPOL)
>powerful opening credits sequence
It's in my top three.
It's a midquel and therefore is by default trash. Lion King 1 1/2 is only sort of a midquel because it's also a prequel and filler between Lion King 1 and 2.
In general I'd say Disney's DTV sequels are mostly shit. I can put up with the Aladdin sequels though, because technically they were really just the pilot and finale of the saturday morning cartoon.
It will make you sad.
And therein lies the irony of the sequel-- it's an incredibly safe movie that wants so badly not to challenge the emotions of young children that it has no reason to exist.
I don't want Disney to make another midquel though. If they can make a good sequel to a cherished movie I'm all for it, but midquels by definition only exist because the studio wants to make more money but there's no more story to tell, and that means they are making them for all the wrong reasons.
I know, but, for example when you anthropomorphize a dog, it's still generally a dog. You often get a stupidly optimistic or loyal or "doggedly" determined or happy go lucky kind of character that embodies traits associated with dogs, or with the dog's breed. For example Balto is a movie where there are many characters that are dogs but they all seem dog-like in their individual way.
But in Aristocats you don't get cats made into cartoon characters, you mostly get characters who just incidentally happen to be cats. Compare it to a film like Felidae which captures the spirit of a cat much better.
It's not my only flaw with the movie either. It's also a tad boring. I don't think it's a BAD movie, just not that good. Certainly not one of Disney's better movies and not really deserving a sequel.
>midquels by definition only exist because the studio wants to make more money but there's no more story to tell, and that means they are making them for all the wrong reasons.
Again your logic here is terrible. A midquel, by definition, is just a sequence of events that happened during its predecessor's sequence of events. Sure, that's an easy route to a soulless cash grab, but that doesn't mean that all midquels have to be.
I actually love it because that John Rolf is mai husbando.
I also found it refreshing seeing a Disney heroine have such a clean breakup with her former romantic lead.
Not just one of Disney's best sequels, but also one of their most underrated movies period. It's actually a much better movie than the original, and between the two I think Down Under holds up much better.
Same. I don't get why it got such lukewarm reviews.
My only gripe was maybe that the Australian humans had American accents, and that was far from movie ruining. Hell, I'd even defend that since it helped ensure Scott's presence.
Actually Arabian Nights only has about three hundred stories. It was a framing device to let you tell whatever story you wanted by no one got around to writing out enough to fill the whole quota
True that. Even in the first movie you could tell that it was part of a larger world, full of magic beyond just the genie and his lamp. Even before wishing himself a power boost Jafar was already a sorcerer, and Agrabah was such an interesting and unique feeling setting that it kind of begged to be revisited multiple times.
That was due to bad release timing.
It came out on the same weekend as Child's Play 2, Rocky V, and fucking Home Alone.
I'm just glad it's still officially part of the Disney Renaissance. It more than earned its place.
If people looked at the Land Before Time movies as Winnie the Pooh movies for kids in an older demographic range, people wouldn't bitch as much about them as much. They're not even close to having the most sequels for an animated franchise.
Disney is good at adapting stories, not making sequels.
Disney has only made one decent sequel in the entirety of their existence: Winter Soldier. Toy Story 2 doesn't count; Pixar wasn't owned by them yet.
After Star Wars, I'm terrified for the Guardians and Incredibles sequels.
I didn't like this film, but I think it's cuz it should not have been a Fox and the Hound movie.
I didn't hate these guys. I think a Singin' Strays movie might have been okay.
"As Bambi continues to age, he begins spending most of his time alone, including avoiding Faline though he still loves her in a melancholic way.
When Bambi has grown gray and is "old", the old Prince shows him that man is not all powerful by showing him the dead body of a man who was shot and killed by another man. When Bambi confirms that he now understands that "He" is not all powerful, and that there is "Another" over all creatures, the stag tells him that he has always loved him and calls him "my son" before leaving to die.
At the end of the novel, Bambi meets with twin fawns who are calling for their mother and he scolds them for not being able to stay alone. After leaving them, he thinks to himself that the girl fawn reminded him of Faline, and that the male was promising and that Bambi hoped to meet him again when he was grown."
They sort of break up at some point in the book
>mfw this nigga says that the aristocats isn't that good
you shut your god damned dirty whore's mouth.
This, Nadia is pretty great. Or you can go even further back and just watch Nausicca.
>there's people right now on this board who thinks Rescuers Down Under was better than the original just because WOWA FLYING SCENE
>there's people right now who are defending the abominations that are the Land Before Time sequels
>that one artists that constantly shits out awful art of the Disney lolis
One of my first introductions to retcons as a kid, For me it was always implied they got married in the first movie since they never mention removing the time limit (only who Jasmine could marry) and them flying of in white clothes before the credits.
Then theres the whole 40 thieves thing, genie singing about Alibabah earlier.
Mah fucking nigga. It truly had everything I like, bread and villain redemption.
Apparently there was a plan fir a third movie finale, but that got canned.
I hate, like, 90% of Pocahintas 2, but I liked thar Ratcliffe finally came i. t his own as a villain.
It was exactly the same story!
Not even that, the exactly same events!
Every single main event in the first have a equivalent in the sequel
The only interesting part was the romance between Bianca and Bernard
>I guess it's like poetry, it rhymes.
>Ctrl + F
>An American Tale : Fievel Goes West
truly a dark day.
5/10. Made me reply.
Also, the cheesy synth-based OST on the first is godlike
Shit is dope, yo. Sadly there is none of those tracks in Youtube. So...
Disney top design right there
>being ashamed of patrician taste
I recorded this part when it was on becasue I couldn't want to be arsed to skip the rest of the shit to see the part I wanted. Man, I want to bake some bread now.
A life lesson on the true meaning of compassion, friendships, free thought, and to take a stand against what you feel is wrong.
Also to question your elders and authority.
The movie is pro social equality and you could easily make a case and I'm sure it's been made many of times that it's about racial segregation. The fox is the nigger and the hound is white.
Expect to feel.
Expect to learn.
It's a shame you didn't watch this one at a younger age.
my parents have told me several times that my mother didnt gave birth to me, i was directly cloned from my dad, and that is the reason i came up defective and had tottally different interests from both of them.
at least we still both enjoy fishing and hate minorities.
Rescuers Down Under wasn't really in the same family demographic competing with Child's Play or Rocky, though. It was Home Alone turning into the surprise hit of the season and becoming the year's overall top-grossing movie that doomed Disney's efforts there.
>>78947644 this is OP
holy crap i left this thing for 1 day and suddenly im allmost at the imits
They did. In fact the main stories most people think of when they hear Arabian Nights (Aladdin, Ali Baba and the Forty Thieves, Sinbad the Sailor) were added to the book in the 18th century by a french guy translating it. Nobody's quite sure if they were old folk tales he wanted to share or if he just made them up.
Yeah, that's the other thing about it that makes it special-- it was a "real" Disney movie. Even as a kid I could tell there was a distinct difference between the movies that were made for theaters and the ones made for video tape.
For a second I thought you meant the actual Hogan's Heroes character and was both confused and excited that someone else knew that show existed, then I remembered the artist and noticed the spelling difference.
And now I'm sad that I knew the artist already.
>lion king 2
Not as good as the first, but okay.
Fuck that. I want a Frozen mid-se-quel where it turns out that Elsa was brought back to the trolls a few times when she was young for "training." She falls in love with child/teen Kristoff, then shit happens and they have to erase their memories - leading back to the original movie.
yeah i guess you could say it was a fairy good movie
I remember thinking Extremely Goofy Movie was okay. It was a nice final sendoff of the Goof Troop universe, although it's been a long as time since I saw it (I rented it when it first came out).
That's because they really aren't bad. Most people just a have a memory of being fifth-graders and shunning anything that they were too old to be lectured by and too young to see a purpose.
Haha, what a pair of fucking faggots