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A glib facsimile of something far greater.
General "No Non-Human Race on Starkiller Base" Hux
Is this the worst looking scene in all of Star Wars?
>wiped out the Republic
Hux plz go. We're not Stormtroopers, First Order propaganda is no good here.
Death Stars accomplished one of their goals, but not on a big enough level to be worthwhile. Blowing up Alderaan certainly put fear into people, whether Rebel, Imperial or third party. Of course, this caused some Imperials to defect, which is a negative thing. Second Death Star just being a thing put massive fear into the Alliance High Command, where they had to throw all their resources at the second Death Star just to avoid Chandrila and Mon Calamari from being BSD'd and blown up.
Still, it doesn't equal blowing up the Senate, entire New Republic fleet and the current capital of the government.
If Coruscant was blown up in the Pre-Empire times, then the Republic and Jedi Order would have been completely wiped out, just like with the New Republic. The only different thing is placing the entire fleet above Hosnian Prime and having that get blown up unexpectedly.
just watched the newest rebels clip, all my hopes were flushed away ,like a morning shit
>All which were, for some reason , on planets that were ridiculously close together.
Actually the capital and the senate were all on the same planet, since the Republic moves it's capital based on who is elected Chancellor, and the Senate serves in the Capital. Star Killer didn't just blow up the capital, it blew up all the planets in the system.
Kanan vs AT-AT when?
At least four.
Rex, Gregor, Wolffe, and Kix.
I suspect there are probably more we don't know about.
>Also which species Riley is best Riley?
I don't know, I kinda' hate Riley's design in general. Stupid as fuck haircut. For this reason alone, I'd say Zabrak would probably look the least shit, but ehh. As another anon said, I think she is canonically supposed to be human?
Pic Related is her as a Mirillian, with the horrid dark-green skin and stupid haircut.
This would be more impressive if we didn't see Vader do the same thing last year.
You can actually select the "eye" icon in the customization screen, and it'll make the hat/backpacks invisible if that bothers you. Sure as fuck bothers me.
Fuck I knew I should have picked Twi'lek. I only didn't because I assumed everyone and their grandmother would pick Twi'lek. They're not as common as I thought...
I kind of want the General Grievance even thoiugh he's kind of a shit character. He seems like he survived the process really well and looks pretty awesome. Jango and Com. Kody look okay too.
>caring about a franchise literally ruined by Mary Sues
"Women were a mistake"-Max Landis
>Sabine and Hera
Spitroasting you with futa cocks
It was one of the better things about TPM, showing Qui-Gon actually trying to cut through the blast doors like he was.
In Rebels they'd just flick their wrist and there would be a hole.
>Leia in the next episode
>going to Lothal
>for ships for the rebellion
In everything cutting through metal blast doors or anything with thick armour with a saber always required putting your back into it.
But it Rebels, apparently the lightsaber is supercharged or something
>On fucking Lothal
>Hey, you guys just left Lothal?
>Going to join that Rebellion?
>FUCKING GO BACK
>Oh cool, a new planet!
>Whoop, only there for an episode
>Now hold on, this might throw you off
>But you're going to have to go back
We're never going to see all the amount of planets we saw in TCW, huh?
The Empire doesn't make it's weapons to be Lightsaber proof, now that the main group of people using them does not exist in the galaxy. Of course they would use less resources on their vehicles, if the chances are above 98% that they won't be used in a place with someone wielding a lightsaber.
>We're never going to see all the amount of planets we saw in TCW, huh?
No. The circumstances for that in TCW was to showcase how the war effects multiple places in the galaxy. Rebels is only focusing on a small outer-rim band of rebels that has no reason to keep planet-hopping for more than an episode, if they have a semi-functional base set up. This carries through to the rest of the Rebellion at large, where they settle in one place until it becomes compromised, scout for a new place and stay there as the cycle repeats.
I hope you're enjoying your new budget.
>Episode 8 goes to lothal
>Rey being a skywalker is a red herring
Ezra and Sabine's daughter
>all of most of episode 8 and 9 involves lothal
>Lothal is actually the center point of the force
>Lothal returns as the Emerald City it was always meant to be.
>Luke and Rey return to the temple on Lothal to gather her lightsaber crystal
>Rey experiences more 'Forcebacks' to her parents fighting the Empire.
So, I was watching a video on one screen and looking at tumblr on another and noticed this visual similarity.
i swear Max is the only sane person in Hollywood
>she's just Ezra and Sabine's daughter
i like this a little
>novelization's version of Starkiller firing on Hosnian Prime
I like this more than how the movie portrayed it. Instead of multiple beams, it was just one giant orb of energy that impacted Hosnian Prime only. Then it did a huge chain reaction under the surface of the planet that instantly vaporized Hosnian Prime's surface. The force of this pushes out into the full New Republic fleet and the planets nearby, destroying the former and making the latter instantly devoid of all surface life. It also turned Hosnian Prime into a sun, which the movie didn't really show.
>Had to fight other scavengers all of her life
>Pretty decent with her quarterstaff
>Beats severely wounded and bleeding Kylo after giving to the Force
>Barely any lightsaber training
>Manages to defeat Darth Vader
So, who is the actual Mary Sue there?
Ok look, lets be fair here.
Luke beating Vader? Happened in his THIRD movie, and only because Vader wasn't trying to kill Luke, they wanted to turn him.
Rey was shown being perfect in her introductory movie. Imagine if Ahsoka was Season 5-tier in her premier movie?
Now to be fair, you're right. She has a history of survival that we are only scratching the surface of, where they can easily smooth out the mary sue-ness.
But comparing her to Luke because he managed to beat Vader in blind rage, well that's not fair at all.
>Telling us her experience instead of showing it
This is what was wrong with the Prequels... well one of the things at least.
Luke we saw struggle for three movies to get BFTO by his dad and his dad's funny (but abusive) uncle. Vader was conflicted about killing Luke so Luke had the
Shut up, Mark SJWaid
You and the other sensitive joss whedons are literally ruining society
And you haven't written a good book since Kingdom Come (which isn't even the good and only famous for Ross's art)
Same for me. I only pointed this part of the book out because of how buttblasted an anon was getting last thread about how improbable it was that the entire NR Fleet was at Hosnian Prime, and destroyed with it.
>kicking people around
>other scavengers usually avoid going against her
Yeah, they totally didn't shown that she's capable.
Well, Kylo Ren's training isn't truly completed, though he's supposedly really good at lightsaber combat anyway. But that gut shot from Chewie would rather impair him.
more or less justified, she would know construction of a lot of ships that she was salvaging parts from on Jakku.
the Awakening that she underwent was important enough for Snoke to notice, reading mind is two-way channel (at least should be), mind trick was a bit of a stretch.
Piloting is debatable, especially that she were surprised at how good she is. Then again, Anakin and Luke became great starfighter pilots after starting with swoops and podracers.
>inb4she's Luke's daughter
>Luke beating Vader? Happened in his THIRD movie, and only because Vader wasn't trying to kill Luke, they wanted to turn him.
To be fair, Kylo Ren didn't want to kill Rey either. He wanted her to be his apprentice.
Also, the word Mary Sue (or Gary Stu for male characters) has lost any meaning over the years. You could call any successful hero a Mary Sue, except anti heroes who are deeply flawed characters by definition. That's probably the reason why everyone prefers anti heroes and villain protagonists to generic white knight heroes.
>Rey was shown being perfect in her introductory movie.
Didn't seem perfect at all. She spent her two fights against Kylo Ren mostly running. She just leveled up at the end by accessing the Force.
Plus it's not like she defeated Vader or the Emperor. She didn't even defeat someone who was Ventress tier. She defeated Han Solo's whiney emo brat who mopes around in his quarters talking to himself about how the light tugs at him but his dark soul or whatever refuses to listen. There's good odds Grievous could kick Ben's ass all the way back to Hutt Topic.
Yeah and you get to see him muscle the lightsaber through the normal "seal off the bridge" doors, making only half a circle before the blast doors are closed. You'll also notice it takes him 19 seconds to make the other side of the door glowing hot and make the outer layer fall off. He's not anywhere near getting through the door by the time the other droids show up.
He's not slicing right through it in fractions of a second like Kanan does to the AT-AT.
This whole debate, and the fact that it won't fuck off and die, is so annoying. It does seem as that the problem is if a man did what Rey did it would just be his "crowning moment of awesome" (or whatever hype phrase people use for that shit) but because Rey is a woman she's immediately suspect. It must be affirmative action, right?
But then I realize if it was Finn who pulled the Force out of his ass we'd still be getting people complaining. And ironically they'd probably be saying it should have been Rey who defeated Ren instead of Finn because she's the one who had the Force vision and the sword was calling to her.
Some people just aren't happy with whatever they get, regardless.
He's conflicted as fuck, can't handle his shit, and has horrible self-control. He may have moments of power but he's hardly at the level of consistency we saw with Vader.
As for the blaster bolt that's a ridiculous power. Why don't we see Jedi doing that in any other movie? Because they have these swords that are great for reflecting blaster bolts. Freezing them in midair until they suddenly zip onward and hit something is a pretty stupid technique by comparison.
>Betrayed the First Order
>Free'd a top prisoner
>Gave the Skywalker map to the Rebels
>Shut down the Starkiller defenses
>Threw a top official into the trash compactor
>Stabbed Kylo Ren
FN 2187 is going to be the most wanted person in the universe in Episode 8.
Lucas is a misunderstood artist who sold his babies into white slavery (who are now literally raping his babies). And now we're no longer have original ideas in SW
Really sad really....
Qui-Gon wasn't even trying to cut the door, he was, somehow, using the Force to heat the entire super structure and melt it. That's why you see a large patch of it glowing, much larger than the blade itself. Totally different technique and one that wouldn't be much use in Kanan's situation.
Lightsabers cut through metals. This is a firmly established fact that shouldn't surprise you. Unless metals are reinforced by force fields or certain types of electrical fields they are vulnerable.
He is an emotional wreck, but he is still incredibly powerful. He's still just an apprentice and even his former teacher wasn't fully trained, but he's still able to use abilities we've never seen before. Then he tanked a shot from Chewie's bowcaster and still dominated Finn and Rey. And by the way, did you see his force push? Darth Maul's push in TPM seems like a fan in comparison.
The only reason why people call him weak or a pussy is because of his personality. He isn't a cold badass like most popular villains in Star Wars. Some people aren't used to that kind of villain.
Probably one of the top Resistance commanders too
The only reason he wasn't in a command position in the First Order was he was to compassionate
I can only see that as being a plus with the Resistance
He has moments of power. When he runs into problems or things that upset him, like Rey turning his mental invasion against him and revealing his secrets, he rushes off to Snoke. When things don't go his way he has "epic" tantrums against the walls.
He's hardly the first Force user we've seen demonstrate bursts of power when they are emotional and his "new" tricks aren't that impressive. What Talzin did with the Force was impressive. Kylo Ren just utilizes a non-verbal form of the Mind Trick. Same way he digs through their heads for information, he just commands them to go to sleep.
No one is saying it can't cut metal, however it's been shown when cutting through large chunks of metal, like doors that seal off a bridge, that it takes some effort to do it, the lightsaber doesn't just slice through it like it isn't even there. The legs of the AT-AT are very thick, and made of very dense metal that shrugs off blaster shots with ease, that shrug off anti-vehicle weapons fire without any noticeable wear. If cutting through a door that's only designed to close requires some effort to cut through, then something like the galaxy's equivalent of heavy tank armor shoulder most certainly require it as well.
Hes the product of nepotism in Hollywood. Which is made more annoying by the fact that his father killed 2 children and a stuntman. He has one legitimate credit to his name and now with his waning pull in Hollywood he hopes to become a meme.
I wonder if Echo had his chip removed. He was already pretty much half droid when they found him so I wouldn't have been surprised if it was removed from that but I would assume Rex would want to take Echo along with him as well.
+Lightsabers are like in A New Hope
+Tech is between Episode III and IV (I expected them to go full OT tech)
+The effects are an improvement over TCW
+The animations are an improvement over TCW
+Small nods to EU
-Music sounds like it's from a shitty early 2000 cartoon
-The models are a downgrade from TCW
-It's more kid friendly than TCW (so far)
-Imperials are all evil (exept for Token)
-Rebels are all good even if they do terrorist shit and they ally themselves with criminals
-Imperials can't shoot for shit
-Imperials get their shit pushed in by a band of nobodies that get zero mention in the movies or anything major
Even with all that I kind of liked it.
Is season 2 any better?
Those doors you're talking about were hardly designed only to close. The first door was no problem, the special blast door was different. Since it's protecting the bridge, the most important part of the ship especially from the viewpoint of the Neimoidian leaders on said bridge. Something designed to resist invasion but, it turned out, not a lightsaber. That AT-AT may be blaster resistant but lightsabers have always trumped blasters.
It took Kanan less time to cut through four person thick legs of heavy armor than it took Qui-Gon to cut half a meter wide circle through a door that is more than likely not "blast proof"
If it makes you feel any better they state in the Rebels Recon that these are earlier model AT-ATs. They're actually larger than the ones in ESB, and it can be assumed that there is a reason they were replaced. The legs have always been the weak points of walkers. Would you really be surprised if the Empire skimped on their joint protection? These are the same guys who see no reason to buy shield generators for their fighters.
The thing is, whenever Kylo shows weakness like when he interrogates Rey or when he reports to Snoke, he isn't wearing his mask. He's only menacing when he's wearing his mask, like when he hunts Rey on Takodana or when he massacres the Jakku village or Luke's Jedi academy. I think Abrams did all of this deliberately to show us his two sides. The menacing, Vader-like Kylo who wears a mask and fucks shit up and the vulnerable, "human" Kylo without the mask.
It's all about his insecurities. He thinks he needs a mask to be as badass as his grandpa.
Every post you keep exaggerating the thickness of the legs more and more.
Anyone else that would probably be okay with the Han Solo movie if they cast Anthony Ingruber as young Han?
And she only beats him because after flailing her lightsaber like crazy she sliced into his arm. After that he could barely lift it to defend himself. She was also trained in using a staff so she knows the basics of fighting. She also doesn't finish Kylo Ren, who was already injured, the earthquake stops the fight.
Its not uncommon for a character in the Star Wars universe to know multiple languages, especially since Rey grew up on a planet filled with various aliens and if her memory was wiped like many suspect she probably learned the droid language then, or she read it in a manual she found. It doesn't really matter because Finn was the only character in the movie that didn't really understand it or Chewie and that just most telling of his background than anything else.
She misses more blaster shots than she makes. One miss close range, two misses from far away, and only makes two very close range shots. She also struggled turning the safety off and got kidnapped in that very scene.
The way she talks to Han it's clear she had worked with the various ships before and that she was even there when the compressor was placed in the falcon as she out right states she opposed it's installation.
She was able to use the mind trick because of how the force is meant to work in the OT vs the PT. Her faith in the force is what drives its power and Rey shows an almost child like fascination and love for the force, Luke, the Rebels, and those stories. She has an unwavering faith in the force itself and she only wavers because she was confronted with the a life outside of waiting for her family on Jakku. Something she never wanted.
I hate siding with the SJW fucks but I am so sick of Mary Sue being used for any capable female character and in recent years that's all it's become and it's only served to cheapened the term so that when actual examples are brought up everyone can just cry misogyny. And it rarely gets used for males but not on the same level.
It's possible. Lords of the Sith deals with Vader's armor early on. He's described when meditating with his helmet as being in constant pain and aware of his missing limbs UNTIL he seals his armor completely. Then he feels whole again. Whether it's psychological or somehow a design of his armor, well, I don't know. Either way would be interesting.
While people are talking about Kylo Ren and his feeling conflicted, I wonder about him talking about feeling the pull of the light. Is that just his internal conflict or is it possible that he's actually hearing the real (ghost) Anakin telling him to stop being a little shit? The idea that he's ignoring or resisting the real Anakin while maintaining this weird fantasy version of his grandfather that he talks to is actually quite delicious.
That's a real leap in logic, I mean everything your saying is a huge stretch and really just conjecture. A movie doesn't have to spell things out but it also has to be clear enough that the things point out about it shouldn't be so dubious. In fact no one is really afraid of her to the point where they are not very afraid of stealing from her.
>he feels whole again.
It plays into the idea of the old self dying and replaced with the new one, when Vader takes his mask off at the end of Jedi it's a very literal image of showing that he is once again Anakin Skywalker. Kylo Ren wears the mask, partly to ape Vader, but also because in his mind the mask is his new face, his new sense of self.
That guy with the luggabeast gave up pretty fast on some otherwise tasty bit of captured droid, and Rey herself described him as a nasty piece of work.
Kind of weird how quickly he gave up on BB-8, really.
Possible reference to Grakkus? 1/2
Season 2 is better yeah. It was kind of directionless in its first half honestly, but the past few episodes have been, dare I say it, teasing TCW levels of quality in the future.
Not much he could have done. Rey could have smacked Teedo off the luggabeast with her staff. That would have stunned him enough to take a couple more hits if Rey kept up the attack. High ground wouldn't have helped Teedo.
From goofy kid Ani to whiny bitch "But I lurve you Padme" Anakin, you're actually implying he didn't earn it? Rey committed no sins near Hayden's level.
>-Imperials get their shit pushed in by a band of nobodies that get zero mention in the movies or anything major
i mean this is apparently set before the Rebel alliance was a thing, its all just rebels cells before they, ya know, ally!
not to mention the Rebels as a whole are a huge group not hearing about them in the movie doesn't make them outta know where OCs
>The way she talks to Han it's clear she had worked with the various ships before and that she was even there when the compressor was placed in the falcon as she out right states she opposed it's installation.
ive never got the complaint that "shes too good with the falcon/she freighter!"
shes literally spent her life mining spaceships for her livelihood! of course she knows how they work!
True. I've been reading though these characters.
A lot of it is generic "this guy is good at hacking and shooting things!" but every now and then, you get these little interesting things that make me hopeful for some kind of Comic set in this sector. The designs and politics of this sector are very interesting. A power struggle between the Empire, and various crime syndicates, and the general populace having to pick sides to survive?
Really fucking cool, I want more stories about this outside of Uprising.
I assume the Blue Ghosts are a Duros gang. Interesting.
>While people are talking about Kylo Ren and his feeling conflicted, I wonder about him talking about feeling the pull of the light. Is that just his internal conflict or is it possible that he's actually hearing the real (ghost) Anakin telling him to stop being a little shit?
I think it's both. He didn't execute Finn on Jakku even though he knew that Finn didn't murder any villagers. But I also think he sees visions or force ghosts of Anakin and/or Vader. Kylo asked Vader's helmet to "show him the power of the darkness again" which implies that he had some kind of vision or flashback, like Rey when she touched Anakin's lightsaber.
No_ But thankfully, Uprising has PLENTY of waifu's to choose from!
First up, Kylia Stryder! Teen Rebel with daddy issues, what's not to love!
I think she met Poe in the novelization. And she will probably care about Kylo since Luke is going to tell her about his tragic past. Rey will probably try to redeem him and he will offer her dark side cookies.
Or perhaps you like your waifu's more exotic and explosive?
On a side note, this generic Twi'lek Rebel looks pretty much identical to the one in Battlefront!
There seems to be a reason they kept the focus on that scene so tight and we never saw what Kylo Ren was talking about exactly. It's a suitable air of mystery ripe for a dramatic twist. What, exactly, I cannot say.
Ok now we're getting to the REAL waifu material! Pink hair!
Possibly. Or just a coincidence and both developers chose blue female Twi'leks to be generic Rebel soldiers. Either way, nice connection if you wanna see it that way.
Oh look, more "Rebels are infallible and imperials only fuck up" garbage.
She has a bubbly personality, and is a complete nerd. Sounds perfect!
Perhaps stay away from this one... I like the hair though! It's... Cool?
Yeah, stay away unless you enjoy being abused and possibly death.
Not really waifu material but look at this classy mo fo.
Jan 20th man, 7 days!
>A Mary Sue or Gary Stu or Marty Stu is an idealized fictional character, a young or low-rank person who saves the day through unrealistic abilities. Often this character is recognized as an author insert and/or wish-fulfillment.
Yep. By your definition everyone using the Force, which is an unrealistic ability, is a Mary Sue.
We get it, Grievous, you hate the Jedi but trolling 4chan about it isn't really going to make you feel better.
Is this seriously what people define it as now a days? That's a generic description of nearly every main character in every work of fiction.
There is so much more to what a Mary Sue is and Anakin nor Rey even come close.
We knew Anakin was going to be strong with the Force and Obi-Wan called him the best star pilot and a cunning warrior in ANH. Movie Anakin was these things, more or less, but had an amusingly horrific ability to woo his intended love, lost his hand, almost fragged his master trying to shoot some buzz droids, fucked around in an elevator in a way that wasn't really helping, got played like a chump by Sheev, and then murdered a bunch of kids and other people.
Not exactly a magical purple eyed super being who wins at everything and everybody loves him.
>what makes any character a "mary sue"?
When the characters use these unrealistic abilities without prior introduction to these concepts. We should have had more scenes with Rey to learn more of her skills, maybe even a throwaway line to Jedi Mind Tricks.
Luke and Obi-wan are two of the first that come to my mind who aren't sues.
Fair, it was the first dictionary definition I found, there are likely more specific definitions. That said though, Rey just knew TOO much without it being presented to the viewer. Otherwise it comes off as something children at the playground would do:
>oh no our ship is going down
>no it isn't, I'm actually a master pilot and mechanic
>that's not fair Sally, how come you get to be a jedi, pilot and mechanic
>don't forget my dad is Luke Skywalker
Do you think there would still be a lot of complaints about Rey beating Kylo if the characters genders were reversed?
I think there would be because the main issue was that he had been trained for years and she had never used a lightsaber before.
We were shown them learning, failing and becoming better over the course of the movie series.
Their abilities were not unrealistic as they worked for them and we as the viewers watched this.
>Do you think there would still be a lot of complaints about Rey beating Kylo if the characters genders were reversed?
>woman as the evil bbeg
You'd have SJW swill attacking JJ for being a Misogynist
Instead of countless threads about how Rey is JJ's mary sue self insert wanting to be the little girl we'd have countless threads about how a man can't be heroic for beating a woman with counter posts about how the heroes won because they're the heroes and accessing the Force to win is basic Star Wars 101.
So the net result would be the same: a huge pile of shit in every thread.
>Do you think there would still be a lot of complaints about Rey beating Kylo if the characters genders were reversed?
I would still complain, the problem (for me) is not that a female beat a male
Luke blowing up the Death Star after a brief encounter with a down blast visor is no different than Rey being told how to find the Force in herself by Maz and being introduced to fucking with peoples minds by Kylo Ren.
>tfw your cosplay will never be as good as disney official cosplay
TFA was actually consistent on how Kylo Ren dealt with other Force users, as in he apparently didn't know how to deal with them. Rey "defeated" him when she used his mind link against him and he ran to Snoke. When she used the Force again in their duel he couldn't handle it.
I think we all maybe assume he's dealt with other Force users before but given that the script suggests he was taken when he was still a boy it's entirely possible he's never faced any. He didn't single-handedly murder Luke's Jedi or anything else people took for granted. He seems to use his powers to overwhelm "normies" but doesn't know how to deal with people who can dish it back at him.
>implying I don't want her to be taught by a woman so that I can ship master and student
Are you shaming lesbians anon? Why is it the first thing you think of is a woman being trained by a man? What has the Patriarchy done to you and how can I help?
Got to go work for Disney and sell your body to them, anon. Only then they'll give you the funds
And this isn't just selling your body. You'd better please the fuck out of that dick, Anon
Nah, it's almost always like that, not just in Star Wars. The first part introduces the setting and the characters and shows us how awesome our heroes are, the second part shows us how our heroes fail and in the third part our heroes manage to overcome their problems.
We see Rey getting mind raped by Kylo Ren for about 3 minutes, which is about as much time we see Luke getting trained by getting his ass shot while flailing a lightsaber around.
>But we SAW Luke trained by Obi-wan, even if just for a moment.
>We never saw Rey taught anything.
Luke's vague crash course that he mostly fucked up until Obi-Wan used a helmet to blind him is hardly much different than Maz telling Rey about the Light always being with her and able to guide her. Hell, after her vision we even have Obi-Wan's voice telling her that she's taken her first step, which he said to Luke after he, finally, managed to block the remote's shots.
If you're apparently a powerful force sensitive, then yes, if someone is repeatedly probing your mind you'll probably figure out some parts of how it works. We literally see this happen on screen, her slowly figuring it out and lashing back at Kylo.
I kinda like Mirialan Riley desu. But then again I just like Mirialans.
When you make a form of media, you should make sure that things flow smoothly.
Subtlety is fine. But things need to have setup to payoff.
I like Rey, don't get me wrong. But she needed more scenes showing the setup. Otherwise it feels misplaced and forced to the viewer, something that weakens the film.
People don't understand that the force in the OT and the PT are completely different concepts. In the OT it was all about belief and not training. All she needed to do was believe.
>Do you think there would still be a lot of complaints about Rey beating Kylo if the characters genders were reversed?
No, because the factors that led to his defeat had nothing to do with anyone's gender, and they'd still be ignored if genders were changed.
>I like Rey, don't get me wrong. But she needed more scenes showing the setup
Once Rey found Luke's lightsaber her entire story was about the Force calling to her. Thanks to that it's likely earlier events that got her to the saber were contrived by the Force too. She kept denying it but when she finally accepted the Force into her life it did not disappoint.
Why are people surprised/shocked by this? The lightsaber was 'calling' to her so why would it fly to Kylo Ren's hand instead of hers? When she finally puts her trust in the Force, the Light side specifically, she beats a wounded, conflicted not-fully-trained Dark Sider.
In a movie that copied ANH in nearly every other respect why did people think the Jedi(ish) hero wasn't going to win? Nobody had their hands cut off but Finn was last seen in an apparent coma, so there's that.
They're ignored as is. People just see things as Rey beat Kylo. They don't factor in that he was shot with Chewie's OP crossbow, or that Finn fought him first, or that Rey ran most of the fight until she got ONE good shot in that took his arm out.
It's just "Boohoo she beat him" and that's it. It doesn't even have to do with gender it's just people looking for shit to complain about. TFA is not perfect but the things that didn't work are blown out of proportion and the things that were just fine are pulled apart while ignoring what lead to it.
>They're ignored as is. People just see things as Rey beat Kylo. They don't factor in that he was shot with Chewie's OP crossbow, or that Finn fought him first, or that Rey ran most of the fight until she got ONE good shot in that took his arm out.
>It's just "Boohoo she beat him" and that's it. It doesn't even have to do with gender it's just people looking for shit to complain about. TFA is not perfect but the things that didn't work are blown out of proportion and the things that were just fine are pulled apart while ignoring what lead to it.
Yeah, that's why I used the word "still" in my post.
I don't think the Force was shown as all that different, really. It's just that we saw the old Jedi Order and all it's rules. Things like "no attachment" was less about the Force and more about how the Jedi conduct themselves. It was about how the Jedi saw their role in the galaxy and their place within the Force. TCWs explores this a bit more by showing us two different Force using cultures, the Night Sisters and the Dagoyan Masters.
I wouldn't say that if you always believed in the Force you succeed, else Luke wouldn't have kept failing in ESB. It was more complicated than that, and the comics run with this from the first few issues when Luke actually meets Vader post destruction of the Death Star. Luke believes in himself and is riding high on saving the Rebellion and galaxy, then gets a very painful lesson in reality. It's not quite as humiliating as Anakin's first attempt against Dooku ending him being bitch slapped by Force Lightning but close. Trust in the Force is fine, but you can't use it as an easy victory all the time. Self-confidence and faith in the Force IS important. Your emotional state when trying to use the Force is key. Yoda says as much. The training is still very much important. Learning the proper mindset is very much important.
Maz was more of a mentor than Han was, and Luke will be more than that. It's too early for the Yoda stand-in to show up.
Why are you surprised that JJ failed pottery class? He's just flailing about trying to copy the master.
that's a great idea, maybe something like a group of specially trained cybor-enhanced victims of rebel battles who seek revenge against the rebels. Maybe throw a force sensitive in there too.
"Lord Vader! Yoda has escaped. Recruit a team of Inquisitors with attitude!"
this is a better picture for what I'm thinking about. basically victims of the war who lost family or limbs or both and blame the rebels.
I was thinking something a little darker then that, maybe in the end they even died, losing everthing.
>You will never be cast as Seventh Sister and be able to indulge in your /ss/ fantasies by calling every little boy you meet "pretty"/"cute" and threatening to take them away.
Why even live?
There's undoubtedly going ot be a time skip between 7 and 8 of a couple years. In that time, the FO could easily swing into the civilized galaxy and start taking planets over for themselves. Especially so now that the NR Fleet is completely destroyed; there is very little opposition for them.
Depends how old you are.
Apparently they have spies everywhere. They snap their fingers and every low life in the galaxy is hunting for BB-8. Which unfortunately worked. It would have been better to see a scene with Hux dealing with all these holocalls about "Is this the droid you're looking for?" "No ma'am, that's a - that's a fucking GONK droid! How is that a ball droid with orange and white coloration? No, I don't want to see your mouse droid instead! There's no need for name calling! I'm merely trying to- Okay, fine. Tell me your exact location so I can send you your reward. The Hosnian System? Hold on, your prize is incoming. Just look up."
Reminds me of Celebration when the little kid wanted to join the Dark Side, catching the Jedi dressed emcee completely by surprise. He managed to handle it well all things considered.
OH NO THATS CUTE
oh so story
i was at Hollywood Studios (the Disney Park) over the past weekend and like the curse that hangs over my head it was rainy from the moment i got there to the moment i left, so it was a little wet.
whats pictured here is a stage show, but a stage show thats the end of a fun little thing for kids where they give them cloaks and lightsabers call them Padawans and bring them through the park with naration from yoda and it all comes to a head at this little stage next to Star Tours where various dark side bad guys try and do bad guy things at the good guy tour guys and the kids participate and its neat and cool and it made me jealous that im too old for it
HOWEVER because it was wet and rainy i saw the kids get to the end of their little tour to the big finish stage only for an announcement to come on and say "sorry no cool participation stage show. but hey heres some magic tricks" and i felt so bad for that little crowd of kids
>Depends how old you are
Because if older people started having lightsabers battles, it wouldn't be no acting where the kids win. It'd be a real fight with John Williams in the background
>Used to play-fight with sticks with my little cousin and act like we're fighting with lightsabers
>Eventually he got so into it it changed from "play-fighting and letting him with" to "Fighting each other with sticks as swords"
>Ended up breaking multiple sticks because we'd be clashing and hitting each other with them so hard they broke
>Can't take him to Disney World to these lightsaber fights because he'd probably accidentally hurt one of the actors
I'm soory. I didn't know he was strong in the force.
I was stacking so much useless crystals that are only usable on Gear/Weapons that I have no use in using.
Literally for months I was stacking until I ran out of space.
Sold so much, I ended up with 2 million credits.
I won't need to worry about money for a while.
>HOWEVER because it was wet and rainy
Pathetic, Obi-Wan fought in the rain just fine
Not that this shit belongs in Star wars conversations anyway, a series that has shown men and women kicking ass or getting their asses kicked in the movies, books and games for years with no one batting an eye till it became the new toy for outrage fetishists.
Reminds me of a fight I had with a friend of mine. Let him borrow a spring-loaded lightsaber (not realizing how hard to find they are now), and he nearly breaks it in half swinging it around like a monkey.
Then again, I was pretty bad myself. Trying to go for actual physical contact while he was clearly aiming for my weapon.
>Donnie Yen in Rogue One
Am I the only one who would want to see a Star Wars wuxia-esque movie?
>What Looks like a Saber Cane
IS THAT A HUMAN ZAO
+Fixed "Adventures in Wild Space" name
+Changed the FAQ layout
+Updated the information on "Tales From A Galaxy Far, Far Away" and updated its picture
+Re-Added information on "Rise of the Empire"
+Added minor bits of information on various things in the Guide
+Added "Hyperspace Mountain"
+Added TFA Cross Section Guide
I think that's it. Just a minor update, but there ya' go, that's everything you need to know about Canon as of today.
Still working on that Timeline by the way.
Instead of "Mary Sue" I'd say Rey is a "flawless" character, and therefore an uninteresting character. She is able to accomplish anything with very little effort (usually one or two tries). All good characters instantly like her and want to help her, all villains wish to turn her or destroy her.
Ultimately, with the way people are using Mary Sue, it's not just the abilities of the character but how they interact with other characters that make them so objectionable and loathed.
No, I saw someone post it on Imgur a while back. I'm not sure if I should be annoyed, or happy that it ended up going viral.
I dont really think a watermark is going to stop people stealing the image, so I honestly don't care. I'll keep making them and posting them here. I only ever intended to do that anyways, I don't really post anywhere else, and I don't intend too.
If people wanna' post it in other places for le upboats, then whatever. Doesn't hurt me.
Would Donnie's character be able to do pic related? Maybe with blaster bolts instead?
The art is nice. And we're only 1 issue in, but you're right, nothing of interest yet.
It's odd, sure, but apparently it really is the official start of the Battle of Jakku, approved by the LSG;
>The other thing that is exciting is that we worked with the Lucasfilm story team to make sure that our Hyperspace Mountain experience had its place in the Star Wars timeline and canon. One of the things you’ll hear from Admiral Ackbar is that we’re going to investigate a Star Destroyer near the planet Jakku , so our battle that is taking place is the Battle of Jakku, which we can see the aftermath of in all the Episode VII trailers. You can see the ground battle in Star Wars Battlefront, we’re just telling the space portion of that battle story.
I don't really want to leave any LSG-Approved Canon stuff out of the Guide, even if it is a Disneyland thing
>She is able to accomplish anything with very little effort (usually one or two tries)
It's like it's a movie or something. I guess Luke is also "flawless" since he managed to figure out how to use the Falcon's gun batteries with only a bit of effort.
To be fair Star Tours used to be canon in Legends
so now this is just its replacement
especially since the the New Star Tours is kinda impossible
what with its time travel
Here is the full ride: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hK6pFk47FeI
There really isn't that much to say about it.
You discover a Star Destroyer above Jakku, Ackbar screams his trademark meme quote, and then you fly around shooting TIE Fighters above Jakku for a bit.
>To be fair Star Tours used to be canon in Legends
It's never actually been canon. The Wook is just so autistic that they had to try to fit in into canon (complete with discussions of whether the Death Star seen there is a third Death Star) rather than just accept that it's just a theme park ride and Lucas and crew never meant for it to be part of the actual story.
But not at all surprising.
please don't make me, anon. every time I get on there I'm just spending hours trying to do something I know I never can and I really need to sleep tonight.
Also, I'd change the layout of the novels. Books like Losts Stars and Aftermath are also part of the Journey to The Force Awakens, yet your design makes it look like only the books illustrated by Phil Noto are.
Is the Force Awakens novel canon? Was thinking of picking it up on audible since I've really been enjoying their narration of the Tarkin book.
It's supposed to be, even if it reads like it was made for 10 year olds
Yeah, I was wondering how to tackle that. Those 4 are supposed to be like a set, and they have recurring characters (Caluan Ematt for example) and flashforwards to TFA, and those illustrations.
So I wasn't sure whether to keep them as a set or not, because Lost Stars and Aftermath were indeed released alongside them in the run up to TFA, despite being formatted and presented differently.
>Yeah, I was wondering how to tackle that. Those 4 are supposed to be like a set, and they have recurring characters (Caluan Ematt for example) and flashforwards to TFA, and those illustrations.
Maybe have a big group of JtTFA then sub-groups for ones with illustrations. The individual covers for the Tales [..] Aliens short stories also seem to have JtTFA on them as well, while the main cover doesn't.
Just put everything in the same bag. It's not like reading Lost Starts between A Leia Adventure and A Han Solo Adventure is going to change things. On the other hand, I think it is confusing to put books with the same banner in the cover in different shelves-what makes it especially confusing is that you called the Adventures series "Journey to..."
Here's a grainy video of the preshow too
The Official Star Wars site and Leland Chee were the ones backing the Third Death Star thing.
In fact, this link actually went into further detail and explained it was just a decked-out Worldcraft from Coruscant that they used as a decoy to distract the New Republic starfleet while they raided a bunch of shipyards elsehwere..
>Maybe have a big group of JtTFA then sub-groups for ones with illustrations
That's not a bad idea at all
>what makes it especially confusing is that you called the Adventures series "Journey to..."
Yeah, I can understand the confusion there, I didn't really know what else to call the set.
That's kind of cool, just went on the updated version of Star Tours in Orlando last month with the TFA scene. Pretty cool overall, they really upgraded the effects, cool to have C-3PO in the cockpit, well done animatronic. Still miss the Paul Reubens bot a little bit, glad he showed up in Rebels.
Thanks Anon, appreciate the info.
I tried imagining what a two handed saber might look like, basically just something with a long handle to help support the weight of a heavy blade, fully knowing that such a concept makes no sense with lightsabers, but I just like it when a sword's got a nice long grip to it.
Well yeah, Chee's job all those years was to enable the Star Wars fans that think too hard about this shit. Legends was pretty much a "It's True, all of it, except if the movies override it" thing after all.
>He was a janitor
>In the first order
>On the Star Killer base
>He did it for free
>rebel emitter master race and overall good looking hilt
Nice! Here's my version of a two handed lightsaber.
I had a similar idea one night while thinking of what kind of lightsaber I would have.
A longer hilt with a weight at the end of it could simulate a heavier blade if one would prefer it.
I figured out how to fix the Rey vs Kylo scene. When she closes her eyes and goes force bullshit, just make her eyes glow white like going into Avatar Mode. Then after she beats Kylo, she goes out of Avatar Mode and acts like "what the hell just happened?"
There. The force did it, done. Plus, adding to lore AND a callback to Anakin (Solo) on Myrkr.
>tfw Gungi is probably dead
Little guy was too good for this world
I remember yours.
I liked your use of switch body and extension for the tapering. The only problem is that, to me at least, it looks decidedly un-star wars like, all polished metal and no real black parts to speak of.
Honestly though, I'm just waiting for them to update the damn thing with quillon emitters.
Pretty much only the Core Worlds were probably the better places to live in the galaxy
Hutt Space is owned by the Hutts, and they're just a lovely group of fat slugs.
The Outer Rim is, well, the Outer Rim. And what does live there live in apparently the worst conditions. Plus, a lot of people forget the Outer Rim planets so chances are you live on an Outer Rim nothing like the entirety of The Outer Rim
Then you have Unknown Space, which is self explanatory.
And then there's that other part which I forget about
>look at the kids books in the pastebin
>expect harmless fun
>find Resistance propaganda
I can't believe people would say the First Order is evil.
Hosnian Prime shot first, it was in self-defense.
Battlefront III, is anything happening to it that might make it a better game?
You, Ezra, and Zeb can bond over your shared fetish.
Free DLC is confirmed, along with 4 "Expansion Packs", which are really just average modern day Map Packs from what I can tell.
The Free DLC is mostly just going to be new Star Cards, with the rare map thrown in now and then.
Honestly, nothing can save it at this point. I have fun with it, but it's no way going to be the game myself and everyone else hoped for.
Maybe fall this year around the time Rogue One releases?