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A brand new season of Samurai Jack is being made for Adult Swim Toonami. Coming in 2016.

Last week was our first week back from the marathons, and ratings were a little flimsy. This week things just get worse. AgK barely touches the million mark, and Parasyte hits a new series low. The pain doesn't stop there, Champloo takes a huge dive and poor numbers follow for the rest of the night. A bad week or a new trend? Only time will tell.


12:00a Dragon Ball Z Kai 1275 0.60 767
12:30a Akame Ga Kill 1017 0.48 607
1:00a Parasyte 902 0.43 548
1:30a Samurai Champloo 769 0.38 478

2:00a Naruto: Shippuden 687 0.33 420
2:30a One Piece (r) 664 0.30 386
3:00a Kill La Kill (r) 679 0.31 398
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Lemme try.
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>>78926812
Kai rerun still doing good

8:00 Dragon Ball Z Kai (r) 0.48 756 0.25
8:30 King of the Hill (r) 0.34 524 0.20
9:00 King of the Hill (r) 0.43 683 0.28
9:30 The Cleveland Show (r) 0.56 903 0.39

10:00 The Cleveland Show (r) 0.72 1156 0.50
10:30 American Dad (r) 0.87 1362 0.60
11:00 Family Guy (r) 1564 0.69
11:30 Family Guy (r). 1630
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>>78926849
Congrats!
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>>78926880
Only mildly beat by comedy reruns

Show (r) 688 0.32
4:00a The Cleveland Show (r) 657 0.28

4:30a American Dad (r) 731 0.33
5:00a King of the Hill (r) 690 0.30
5:30a King of the Hill (r) 660 0.27
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>tfw couldn't wait for Parasyte no more
I watched the remaining 12 or 13 episodes in a row, pretty good show overall, if not one of the best shows new Toonami has aired.
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>No more bantz
>marathons save money so we can do less :^)

I'm glad ratings are dropping
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>>78926888
Thanks senpai

Shame about the ratings but it's been worse,I suppose.
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>>78926812
>what do the viewers want?
>well at minimum something somewhat new that hasn't aired on TV
>FUCK THAT LETS PUT AN 11 YEAR OLD SHOW THATS RUN BEFORE RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE BLOCK
>that may not be good for rat...
>MUH WATANABE STOP CRITICIZING ME

These ratings please me. It's a shame the only way to get through to Demarco is by killing the block though
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>>78927006
You're welcome anon-kun

>Shame about the ratings but it's been worse,I suppose.
This is the penance we must pay for Demarco's ignorance.
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>>78926812
>Kek la Kek did better than One Piece

Thanks for airing that filler Demarco, exactly what OP needs to succeed
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These ratings is the target audience's way of saying "Demarco's a faggit".
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Maybe they should have gotten this instead of Samurai Champloo.
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>>78927760
>Show about economics with a side of cute wolf bitch
>on Toonami

Come on man, I like the show too, but people watch this block to see niggas get wrecked, not listen to a treatise on supply & demand in Renaissance-era not-Europe.
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>>78927760
>Maybe they should have gotten this instead of Samurai Champloo.
Didn't you learn anything from Michiko to Hatchin?
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>>78927760
To be honest, I was expecting ME!ME!ME! under that spoiler tag.
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>>78928316
I think we all were.
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Is this like him saying yes to both questions?
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>>78928594
you know it
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>>78928594
>passage aggressive
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When?
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Dandy in the rerun slot when?
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>>78928898
When the ratings need to be even worse
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>>78926812
This gets funnier by the week

>post yfw Demarco gets the block canned before Jack is ready so they have to shove somewhere on Sunday where it will fail
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>>78929558
I'm sure demarco won't disappoint then.
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>all but a single show can be watched in its entirety/most recent episode on Hulu
I hope the other "big" shows for the block are exclusives because this shit is killing the ratings
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Is anyone else nervous that CN/Toonami is going to go back downhill this year? Remember: the "sixth" year of a decade tends to be the apocalypse year, or the "666" year.

In 2006 (pic related)...
>Shows such as Cow and Chicken, Time Squad, Looney Tunes were removed.
>Jim Samples went senile.
>CN aired the Re-animated movie.
>Saved by the Bell ran on Adult swim for April Fools'.
>Commercials with terrible characters like Fred Fred Burger and Cheese were spammed to appeal to middle schoolers.
>Inuyasha, Teen titans, Justice league unlimited, and others ended, severing all ties with the early 00s.
>CN really pushed that Ben 10 shit, even though nobody liked it.
>Adult Swim stopped the chill Japan bumpers and replaced them with clips of their characters doing wacky/lolrandom things.

In 2016, something will happen, though nobody knows what.
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>>78927223
I've seen Champloo plenty but I watch for the sake of the block (and to post best girl, of course)
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>>78930072
Look at the ratings, look at >>78926989
It's already begun. It's been on borrowed time all of 2015
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>>78930072

>CN really pushed that Ben 10 shit, even though nobody liked it.
>I don't like it therefore nobody else does!

Shit sold like hotcakes.
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>>78930773
This, if no one liked it then it wouldn't have gotten like 8 seasons
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>that feel when you haven't been watching Toonami and are contributing to the ratings decline

I miss you all :(

Health issues are making it so that I can't watch the entire block, and sometimes not even at all.
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>>78930072
Come on, man. Toonami general doesn't need your old pasta.
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>>78928898
I really wonder if Adult Swim is satisfied with investing in Dandy.
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>>78931245
You gotta a Nielsen box?
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>>78930072
>Adult Swim stopped the chill Japan bumpers and replaced them with clips of their characters doing wacky/lolrandom things.
>replaced them with clips of their characters doing wacky/lolrandom things.
That never happened and you know it. And if it did, it happened in 2011.
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WE'RE NOT GONNA MAKE IT
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>>78930072
Have you come up with a reason yet for why 1976 was an apocalyptic year that doesn't have something to do with disco?
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I only watch Toonami for DKZKai and Parasyte. I only watch DBZKai because the only saga I saw in its entirety during its first run was the entire Majin Buu saga -- other than that, I had only seen a smattering of random episodes that were the original Saban/Ocean/Funi dub. I watch Parasyte because it's interesting and different. The rest of the shit I don't care about. Kill La Kill was okay, though. I missed on some other stuff, but whatever -- if I'm really interested in something, I'll just look it up and watch it subbed.
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>>78931291
The initial run did great, and really put Toonami on the map. Then Demarco threw all that away with mismanagement
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>>78930517
I actually never watched Champloo, it's always been on my backlog but not really something I was super interested in, so I'm glad to finally get an excuse to watch it, even if everyone else's already seen it.
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>>78932980
And this is the issue Demarco pretends isn't one. The lineup sucks ass, but Demarco thinks the viewers will watch whatever the fuck he throws on. For awhile this did work, but since there is no hope of the block improving, people are less inclined to watch the shit
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>>78930072
Not responding to your copypasta, but holy fucking shit did this shit make me detest Billy and Mandy. Basing the packaging of the entire fucking channel off ONE joke was infuriating
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>>78933229
Picking up Champloo is a real display that he has no clue what the viewers want, or just molds the block into his own personal taste dumping ground

Anyone who believes the Fujiko Mine cover up is retarded. If KLK was slowed down by network worries when no actual nudity occurs, there's no way they spent more than 15 minutes with Fujiko Mine
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>>78930072
>re-animated was 10 years ago

Jesus.
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>>78926812
How many weeks of this till the block is cut?
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>>78930072
>CN
>downhill

Nigga they're at the bottom digging holes
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>>78934446
Probably a month or so, they would tried shuffling the schedule first though
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We should talk about what needs to replace One Piece.
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>>78935236
anything.
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>>78935323
This, I can't think of anything that wouldn't be an improvement
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>>78935236
>>78935488
>>78935323
Nothing, samefaggot. Fuck off back to reddit.
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>>78935532
>everyone who disagrees with me is a samefag and reddit
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>>78933229

People are less inclined anyway when they can just watch it on the internet
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>>78935908
Three people posting within a few minutes with short little "I agree, you're absolutely right" messages without actually discussing what they think should replace it? Yeah, totally not the same person.
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>>78935977
Ok m8, you keep pretending OP isn't a cancer to the block.

And they did discuss what should replace it, literally anything else
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>>78933357
With KLK the issue was, "how much of this can we air unedited?" Assuming Fujiko was legitimately considered, I'd imagine the issue for that would be, "how much will we have to edit, and will it be worth our time to do so?"
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>>78936067
>And they did discuss what should replace it, literally anything else
Here you go. This is the future you chose.
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>>78935908
Essentially.

>>78936067
Samefag
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>>78936123
That's fine, no 7 minute recaps atleast

>>78936175
Well no shit m8, of course both of those were me, what led you to believe they weren't?
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>>78936175
>>78935977

I'm not even dissing Naruto and One Piece fans, but we have to come to terms and understand that Toonami runs on one day a week, and having long running shows that literally have no end (One Piece) and shows that have endless filler with little to no hype (Naruto) will not fare the block well. Not to mention that viewer interest will wane, you can't just skip 300+ episodes and begin in the middle of buttfuck nowhere with a foreign show and expect people to flock to that shit. Not to mention it has a shit slot next to its long-running companion.

I understand Naruto on the block but I really cannot justify One Piece's existence on the block. We literally only have 3 and 1/2 hours, and to have 2 slots filled with polarizing content is not good. I understand when DBZ Kai ends they should switch in Naruto, but where the block stands right now they would be better off just replacing it. I'm not even trying to bait or piss anyone off but its just reality.
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>>78936285
>what led you to believe they weren't?

Nothing. They're both completely stupid posts. That's why I said 'samefag' you fucking fat piece of shit.
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>>78936530
>that reaction picture
>trying to act like you're not a shitposter
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fuck champloo.

Wastes a slot
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I'm willing to bet that long shows make more fiscal sense.
Look at what happens with the shorter series like SAO or Attack on Titan; you have to reair them multiple times (which nobody wants). They don't have the budget for new shows in their place which means reruns in order to make that money back. With a long running show that's circumvented, but that means that part of the block is going to be taken for years on end.

So I guess the question is what would you rather have, reruns of average shows over and over, or mediocre long runners?
>I want good shows.
Then get to torrenting. Most of they companies that would do business with Toonami are smart enough to know that the vast bulk of A-List stuff is for Blu-Ray release, not for TV.
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>>78936706
That's wrong, it's the distributors that do the damage. Aniplex paid Toonami to air SAO, and gave SAO2 for a fair price.

Funimation raped Toonami on AoT and fucked them on Hellsing, which forced AoT reruns.

3am is always gonna be a rerun, Demarco is too cheap to get something new there when a rerun does just as good
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>>78936662
Your posts aren't contributing anything, I explained why Naruto and OP are an issue for the block, and your retort is
>HURR SHITPOSTING
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>>78937253
Wtf why are you posing as me?
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>>78936706
The block is shorter now, and we have 8+ marathons per year, and as a bonus barely utilize Blum anymore. They have NO excuse for not being able to buy shorter shows.
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>>78926880
Must have been a slow night. Even Senpai Guy seems lower
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>>78937356
it was, we reached 6 threads last saturday.
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>>78936706
Demarco has said before long shows cost right about the same as shorter ones. The reasoning for longer shows is some form of block stability and laziness to cycle in new shows and make fresh bumpers etc
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>>78937253
You didn't explain shit, you mongoloid. Fuck off back to reddit already. Toonami is clearly not for you.
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>>78937471
>implying thread count here means anything about block performance

Yea all 200 or so of us shitposted a bit less so that's why the ratings are shit
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>>78937733
Whenever the block schedule changes they redo all of the show bumpers so your last point's invalid.
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>>78936530
Between Naruto and One Piece the series that should go really is Naruto. The series is already over in Japan, and the anime is literally repeating the endless filler that they did when the first series ended. (There's at least another year of pure filler planned, right in the middle of the fucking final fight.) One Piece only has a couple of small filler arcs left before it resorts to only padding out episodes, which is better than endless LET'S ALL SING THE FROGGY SONG for years on end.

plus if viz wants to stay on the block it means hunter x hunter more likely than not, and that's like a good naruto/sao/dbz/hikaru no go/presidential election in place of terrible naruto
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>>78938252
Not him, but last year there were periods where they didn't update them.

That aside, his point still stands, picking up less shows means making less new bumpers
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>>78938394
It's a tough issue. On one hand, One Piece loses filler, but padding becomes even more prevalent. 7+ minute recaps become the norm. Naruto has tons of filler, but minimizes watching the same shit 2-3 times in recaps and flashbacks

From a popularity and ratings standpoint, One Piece loses on both fronts, atleast on Toonami.

Lastly, Naruto is 3 weeks away from airing episodes never seen on TV before. There's no way we toughed it out for 2 years just to cut it loose now
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>>78931291
>>78933166
Demarco and Funimation fucked over Dandy completely with Attack on Titan stealing the first slot.
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>>78938817
Dang it, we toughed out all that filler in the first series to drop it right before getting to Shippiden, so we can drop it before getting to new to TV plot relevant episodes if we want to!
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>>78938914
For once, we can't blame Demarco for that. Having AoT right out front was 100% Funimation because they wanted max shilling for AoT Blurays
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>>78938952
>eating a whole bowl of shit
>not accepting the reward of a bowl of shit with sprinkles on it after
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>>78938817
>Lastly, Naruto is 3 weeks away from airing episodes never seen on TV before. There's no way we toughed it out for 2 years just to cut it loose now
Not to mention Demarco is a huge fan of Naruto.
This block is honestly fucked unless we started over from scratch with no Demarco.
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>>78939447
>Not to mention Demarco is a huge fan of Naruto.
Is he? He talks more about how much he enjoys One Piece than he does Naruto.
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>>78939474
I believe he's a huge fan of the original Naruto because I remember reading on his ask.fm he's read a bit before and actually own some of the some dvds.
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>>78939474
He is a fan of both, don't know if he has a favorite.

Remember, Demarco's own preferences are more important that viewer desires
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>>78937173

>Aniplex paid Toonami to air SAO

[citation needed]
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>>78940130
I don't have it anymore since it was a 2013 Q&A.

That aside, you can't argue that Aniplex hasn't been extremely good to Toonami
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>>78940254
>tfw I have baited Demarco into using this image about 3 times now
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>>78940592
nigga needs to get new images.
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>>78940592
More like lich BABY king,amirite?
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You all have really bad opinions and assumptions about Toonami.
"Let's replace One Piece with Spice and Wolf or Fairytale! :DDDD"
"Dude Champloo sucks xD Rating are tanking"
"It's failing!"
Just shut up and watch tv.
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>>78938394
>Between Naruto and One Piece the series that should go really is Naruto.
But nobody is watching One Piece. Hell, when they gave it the early slot with Kai it still bombed in ratings. One Piece lost it's chance to be something in the west the minute 4kids got their hands on it. I have accepted this and so has a few others. It's you guys and Demarco dragging it into the unwarranted limelight that need to let go.
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>>78941077
>inb4 demarco leave
is it bad that i havent watched champloo before and i'm really digging it seeing it for the first time on toonami? same with Michiko and hatchin
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>>78941077
>"Let's replace One Piece with Spice and Wolf or Fairytale! :DDDD"
I'd prefer Trigun or Kenshin or better yet; YuYu Hakusho.

>"Dude Champloo sucks xD Rating are tanking"
Yeah, but I'll watch it anyway.

>"It's failing!"
You bet it is.
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>>78926812

New season of jack!!! FUCK YEAH :D

rip mako (aku) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQaKsgMiSxA
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BASED champloo
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http://strawpoll.me/6523709
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>>78941077
>"Dude Champloo sucks xD Rating are tanking"
Champloo is good, but the ratings are crap because most of Toonami's audience has seen it already. DeMarco of all people should know better, but he's too busy gushing about how it's one of his favorite shows.
>"It's failing!"
It is, especially when compared to a year ago.

>>78941118
Nah, it's all good.
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>KLK beats OP in ratings
Feels good man.
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>>78941281
If only we had other Space Dandy's.
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>>78941281
Champloo was the only option they had for their budget and how much time they had. It was that or standard reruns. Its a good show so I'm not going to complain.
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>>78941283
>A rerun of KLK beats a premiere of OP
That tells you something.
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>>78941283
Anything beating OP isn't a surprise
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>>78941077
Sup DeMarco. How's the tranny porn collection?
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Watch as Toonami gets canned and Demarco pulls a Capcom/Megaman Legends 3 and blames the viewers.
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Age of the internet and you shit cunts still care about what plays on tv? :\
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>>78940870
FUCKING DESTROYED
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>>78941331
>only option

[citation needed]
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>>78941427
He already blamed us for the cut
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>>78940870
DEMARCO ON SUICIDE WATCH
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>>78941077
>replace OP with S&W or Fairy Tail

Literally no one is saying this not ironically.

>Champloo is tanking
One week isn't something to go on, but have a look at this weeks ratings and you see that has some truth to it. All the cheap shit Funi has and they pick a rerun because MUH WATANABE.

People may say M&H was boring, and I don't really disagree, but it pulled respectable numbers every week because most of the viewers haven't seen it before. In the Internet age, being a rerun block will kill it quick
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Kek
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>>78941644
his crew is full of bitches
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>>78941644
Hey look, the guy in charge doesn't have any worries!

i guess no one showed him the ratings for this week!

DOHOHOHOHOHO
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>>78941644
Christ.
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>>78938994
Yeah, but he fucked up when deciding to rerun it at the beginning of the block, instead of putting DBZ Kai there when it arrived.

Also, any word on Funi planning on dubbing the Buu Saga of Kai? We've got another year before the end of the Androids, and no more English Kai
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>>78941644
There's something.... strange reflected in that dog's eye.
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>>78926812
>2:30a One Piece (r) 664 0.30 386

>tfw you have knowledge that there are people who still want One Shit on the air
>tfw no picture to express it
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>>78941837
I see it too.
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>>78938817
>From a popularity and ratings standpoint, One Piece loses on both fronts

Uh....then what's this?
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>>78941184
>tfw Mako will never voice Aku ever again.

Leaves from the vine, falling so slow...
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>>78941721
>>78941726
>>78941798
leave Demarco alone guys, I'm trying my best okay?
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>>78941896

:') :'(
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>>78941118
>>78941179
>>78941281
>>78941624
Damn, actual dialogue in threads, you got me there.
Yeah literally anything else would do. I don't understand why they'd show shit they've played before.
I feel like the people who vie for shows on Toonami are the wrong types who take the time to go through the Adult Swim forums and RWBY fans.

Anything classic or anything new and not poorly written like Space Dandy would pull a straight 180 for Toonami.
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>>78941895
I think anon's talking purely in terms of Toonami, where the audience is almost exclusively American.

And Americans have awful taste.
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>>78941895
I wonder where all those fans are right now :^)
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>>78942082
Not watching Toonami, that's for sure.

the sooner One Piece is kicked off the sooner we can get something of quality.
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>>78942082
Probably embarking on actual adventures.

>>78942136
What did One Piece do to you, bro? Kill your dog? You take your Saturday Night Rerun Hour too seriously.
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>>78941184
>>78941896

Every time I hear that song..
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>>78942191

What anime is that gif from? thanks
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>>78942052
Thanks Americans. Now we'll never get our own giant Shirahoshi waterslide.
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>>78942181
It was shat out by a no talent hack.
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>>78942136
Fags like you make me sick. I bet you're one of those morons that thing K-on or some shitty slice of life might make it.
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>>78941830
Yea that's true, that choice is on him

Anyway, one would assume that dub is in progress, however there hasn't been a peep about it in years which is concerning. If Kai does end without more being dubbed, it's almost guaranteed Demarco starts it over from episode 1
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>>78941895
Did you not read literally the final part of that sentence you absolute fucking retard?
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>>78942228
You mean it was painstakingly handcrafted by the wealthiest, most successful, and most dedicated comic book artist in the world at the expense of his own health?

He literally works himself into the hospital to please the adoring masses.
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>>78942362
But that's wrong. Nothing they put on Toonami will ever be as popular as One Piece. It's literally the highest selling comic book in the world.
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>>78942362
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>>78942380

Praise the lord <3
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>>78942022
i wouldn't mind watching YYH or trigun again if they ever got the cash for it, but i doubt it could get a new audience
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>>78942362
Did you not see this image you absolute retarded fuck?
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>>78942413
Do you have no reading comprehension at all? ON TOONAMI AND ONLY ON TOONAMI One Piece is failing ratings wise. It doesn't matter that the manga sells well IN JAPAN. In regards to this shitty dubbed anime block, One Piece is a failure
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>there are people in this thread actively defending One Piece even when these abysmal ratings
I bet you guys aren't even watching it either. Why keep it when we could have better shit with reasonable ratings?
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>>78942449
Praise Oda
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>>78941430
>>78941430
>>78941430
>>78941430
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>>78942466
Yea that's a great image, I didn't realize Toonami was airing actual printed scans of the fucking manga.

The anime is shit and it's ratings on Toonami are shit
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>>78942413
>It's literally the highest selling comic book in the world.
To bad that kind of cred isn't helping it on Toonami. Plus, I think you mean the best selling "Manga" in Japan.
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>>78942469
>sells well IN JAPAN

Try the WORLD, chuckles.
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>>78942515
And most of those sales happen in Japan m8, where it's treated like a religion.
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>>78942512
>Plus, I think you mean the best selling "Manga" in Japan.

One Piece is the Guiness World Record holder for most comic books sold worldwide by a single author. Could at least use google to make sure you're not saying something stupid on 4chan?
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>>78941883
>>78941837
Ok I have been looking at this for 5 minutes, clue me in
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>>78942559

Its the most pirated anime and manga in the world. Clearly DVD are strong seeing as it's not a cheap license.
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>>78942515
We aren't seeing the proof.
>2:30a One Piece (r) 664 0.30 386
This isn't the ratings of a world wide seller. A rerun of a less popular series just beat it's premiere here. That's like saying Family Guy will be a ratings hit in Japan because of it's ratings here.
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>>78942469
>It doesn't matter that the manga sells well IN JAPAN.

It sells well pretty much everywhere it's available except America.
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I thought you One Piece fans were more sensible this. All of you are literally losing your minds here.
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>>78940592
Since the faggit loves this image so much...
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>>78942228
>b8
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>>78942599
>This isn't the ratings of a world wide seller.

No, but it's the ratings of an episode that everyone saw 8 years ago airing at 2:30am on a fucking Saturday.

How fucking stupid are you ratings-watchers? Who gives a shit? It's just a block of anime that you've all seen already.
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>>78942628

Those fans are dead. Early on when everyone hated it except for a small few they were a pretty easy going group provided you didn't mention the 4Kids dub, which to their credit a lot of them were able to laugh at, but when the Whitebeard War arc started up and all the bandwagon jumping began the ship was sunk.
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>>78942608
Oda himself even admitted that the series Naruto is more popular than One Piece in other countries. That came straight from the Horse's mouth. One Piece is a smash hit in Japan but everywhere else it's considered mediocre.
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>>78942595
>Its the most pirated
>PIRATED
>Gold Roger's treasure is hidden in the internet
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>>78942699

i left everything i own in ONE PIECE.. THE EARTH
we are all the treasure baby
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>>78942689
No one said that Naruto wasn't popular. Just that One Piece sells well pretty much everywhere it's available.

They love it in Brazil, China, Singapore, Germany, Korea, etc.
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>>78942664

It was free to watch legally for the longest time dub and sub too. One Piece's ratings are low because these episodes are eight years old and its fanbase doesn't give a fuck about supporting a TV airing when they're busy fighting other battles like convincing Bandai to release games or trying to get FUNimation to license the older movies.
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>>78942664
You are a real dense motherfucker, aren't you? Any other circumstance would get One Piece booted off the air. You should be thankful Toonami is made for the fans because if this was a business deal like other networks/blocks, One Piece would have been taken off on it's 4th run at most. What is it about this you are not understanding? So you better care about the "stupid" ratings watchers because if it falls too short you'll this show cut if some suit says to.
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>>78942699
>>78942466
>>78942380
How anyone can like this ugly shit is beyond me.
It's goddamn 2016, make your shit look better than a six years old's drawings.
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>>78942228
>being mad that Oda is a multi-millionaire from drawing comics about pirates
>being mad that Oda has a mansion bigger than most movie stars' homes
>being mad that Oda is married to this
>being mad that Oda has children that love him
>being mad that Oda is one of the most respected artists in the world and can make any woman's panties soaked in an instant
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>>78942816
Is that a man?
It looks like a man.
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>>78942787
>It was free to watch legally for the longest time dub and sub too.

Whoa whoa whoa, did they put a stop to that? This is news to me.
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Who would have thought One Piece would cause so much drama with so little people watching.
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>>78942859

nononono drama
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>>78942840
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>>78942808
I mean, COME ON ODA, IT'S 2016!

Stop making millions having anime, theme parks, restaurants, and stage shows made of your ugly ugly drawings! Because anon on 4chan said so!
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>>78942859
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>>78942840
The correct phrase is Tomboy.
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>>78942859
Everyone's just being a big baby about hopping on board the One Piece ship, like Franky was.

Once we crush their balls, they'll come around.
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>>78942904
Hey man, it's fine if you like shit, no one is saying you can't like shit. But you should at least know that it's terrible looking.

>>78942912
If japan has taught me anything, it's to assume that any person they take a photo of is actually a man. So I'm going to say that that is a man, mostly because it looks like a man.
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>>78942953
>But you should at least know that it's terrible looking.

Thing is though, it's not.
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>>78942953
Looks like we got a Narutard here.
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>>78942808
>deflecting this hard
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I can't see the Toonami ratings threads ever having any peace now as long as One Piece is around.
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>people get so uptight that their show, that they've already seen all the episodes of, isn't doing well in its time slot, and is being suggested as being dropped.

holy shit, are your normal threads this autistic?
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>>78942643
There go my fucking sides 10/10
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>>78943074
Absolutely. Toonami was a mistake.
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>>78943074
>people get so uptight that they honestly suggest replacing a show they don't like with a show everyone has already seen over 10 years ago
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>>78943074
Usually not this bad, people are casting out b8 like there's no tomorrow since everyone is biting
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>>78943055
What's wrong with One Piece? Have you ever tried reading it? It sells well for a reason.
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>>78943115
Ur mum said that about you last night m8e8.
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>>78943074
I don't get what their problem is either. They already watched all the episodes subbed. It being on Toonami should be small fray on their agenda. I can understand wanting it on Toonami for exposure but that phase has already flown by with what it's showing with it's ratings.
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>>78942787
Ok, then why do the other equally or older shows in the same circumstances pull decent ratings then.

Reminder that the timeslot isn't to blame, OP started out 90 minutes earlier but had to be moved down gradually due to subpar numbers
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>>78943168
At least people will watch it. Look at DBZ that has been replayed how many times now getting good ratings.
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Reminder that Oda is the writer we deserve.
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>>78943188
>reading it

That's the issue, One Piece can only be consumed read, the anime is a pile of Toei garbage that is unwatchable, especially one episode per week
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>>78943231
What do you care what other people are watching? Are you a network exec?
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>>78943266
yes
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>>78943266
That air space One Piece is hogging could go to another show.
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>>78943266
No, I'm a Toonami viewer who wants this small block to be watchable and not die.
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>>78943292
Like Ronin Warriors.
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>>78943292
Like?
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>>78943314
Look at the suggestions in the thread.
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>>78942643
Holy fuck kek, that's some high quality OC
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So how long until another half hour is cut from Toonami?
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>>78943314
Any action oriented 20ish episode series that hasn't aired yet
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>>78943340
Probably somewhere around the middle of this year since DeMarco is a cheap bastard.
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>>78943340
Hopefully by the end of the month
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>>78943336
You mean all those shows that everyone has seen already when they were 10?
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>>78943377
At least be somewhat optimistic.
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>>78943115
Nothing that gave us Space Dandy is a mistake, anon. In fact, for all the shit it's given us, I'd say that it's worth it for:
>Dandy
>Intruder II
>Reviving Jack (I think Toonami existing as a platform for it is part of the reason it's happening)
>Some fucking hilariously awful moments in shitty anime like SAO being laughed at as a group in the General
And honestly, overall, there's been quite a few straight-up good shows on the block since the revival, and personally, I'd never seen many of them before (Soul Eater, Michiko & Hatchin, Casshern Sins, and currently Champloo, for example), so that was a good experience.
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>>78943404
Are you implying these episodes of One Piece aren't in the same boat?

Look, the main issue here is OP will NEVER end its Toonami run. That slot is gone forever. Swapping it out for shorter shows helps combat stagnation, and with its mediocre ratings not many will complain
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>>78943554
Dandy would have happened anyway. Intruder 2 was a mediocre disappointment that was just used as a canon excuse for Demarco to do less work. Jack is probably the only thing Toonami has helped with, and we have no clue if it will be good or not yet
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>>78943555
>Are you implying these episodes of One Piece aren't in the same boat?

You could say that, but they really aren't, since the idiots are literally asking to be nostalgia pandered.
>Kenshin
>Yu Yu Hakusho
>Trigun

You fucking serious, mate?

>Look, the main issue here is OP will NEVER end its Toonami run.

Good.
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>>78943592
Toonami actively helped fund Dandy, if I recall, and got a really good Simuldub to go with it. Without Toonami, it may not have had as much money, and the dub would definitely have come out a while later (if at all) and might not have been as great as it was.
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Guys I think I have found a pattern. OP pulls shit ratings weekly, but has done slightly better than KLK so no one really talked about it. This week KLK did slightly better, and the thread is in an uproar. The same thing happened when AoT was doing better than OP.

Sure most of its bait, from both sides, but when the show after OP pulls higher ratings, shitposting increases immensely
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>>78943595
I don't accept what one fag posted for the block as what the whole thread ones. People suggest that nostalgia shit for every slot, and as we see with Champloo, it kills the block
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>>78943662
>>78943595
Here retards, I can't list every show ever so I made it with general categories instead. Settle it with votes

http://strawpoll.me/6524060
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>>78943629
>both sides

It only happens when morons start slinging "Look at the ratings! ONE PIECE IS SHIT! SO UGLY BABBY SHIT FOR BABBIES"
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>>78943792
No, both sides are responsible today, not only for casting bait, but for taking it too.
>NEVER EVER CANCEL ONE PIECE JAPAN LOVES IT EVEN THOUGH THIS ISNT JAPAN AND THE RATINGS SHOW AMERICANS ARENT FOND

And as you said, the typical 1 peace sux bait with no substance to it that people are still taking
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>>78942643
This is a very accurate picture actually
>Toonami was in the grave
>fans do necromancy to bring it back from the grave
>Demarco does everything in his power to put it back in the grave
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>>78943662
I ain't the fag, fag.
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Why do you people want One Piece to stay such much? Be honest with me here.
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>>78943595
>Good.
It's like you want this block to suffer.
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>>78926963

Got a pretty big Chimera Ant arc vibe from it, but I'm glad that you liked it.
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>>78944016
As a neutral party on the issue, here are my observations
>they are fans of the series
Pretty obvious, if it's your favorite show you wouldn't want it cancelled.
>they think it airing will be its big breakthrough in the west
I don't know how people can still hold on to this hope, it's airing at 2:30am once per week, and in 3 years has not shown any signs of finally getting that western breakthrough
>they figure it blocks something worse
Let's face it, if they do pull it, 1 of 2 things happen. One, the block gets cut again. With the recent ratings for the entire second half, I wouldn't be surprised. Or 2, Demarco being the cheap shit he is, grabs another long runner, more than likely being Fairy Tail

That's about it
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>>78944016
You know how every week there's people who assure the entire thread that TONIGHT will be the night that One Piece is amazing, and every single time it's mediocre as usual? Those are the people who want it to stay. They mistake hype parts of the manga, that usually happen within 12 pages, will be decent in the anime, that has to make those 12 pages into 22 minutes
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>>78944016
Because even at the anime's grueling pace, it's still easier to get through on an episode-by-episode basis than Shippuden, which is only really enjoyable on those rare occasions when a canon episode gets a budget boost.

On a related note, it's funny how people always give One Piece's ratings such shit, but the drop between Shippuden and the show before it has always, ALWAYS, been drastically larger than the gap between Shippuden and One Piece. Granted this week that's a bit deserved since KLK scored higher, but you never see anyone calling for Shippuden to be removed despite steeper ratings drops.
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>>78942816
Every time i look at Oda's life i wanna die.
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>>78944016
If I'm being completely honest my wanting the show to succeed in the west so that it insures games and other merch gets localized is the only reason I even watch Toonami.

Yeah, I've seen those episodes, but I've seen all the other shows as well already and don't even care that much about them since casuals will insure Attack on Titan and Naruto swag for years to come.

And I'd honestly even rather watch its filler than Shippudens. I watch the full block each week and fuck if I can tell you what, if anything, happened on Naruto last saturday.
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>>78944175
Well, before being moved down to give the short premiers a better air time, Shitpudding used to pull semi decent ratings, One Piece has done mediocre since day 1.

I don't know why it's even a talking point, the only way either show will be pulled is with absolutely abysmal ratings since Demarco will protect both of them as long as he can. Gonna take a higher up intervention to get either one off the air
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>>78938394

But to this day, we don't even know who has the rights. Funi lost out, so I'm thinking that it's in a Hitman! Reborn situation where there is no dub, but streaming rights, which explains how Netflix has most of it.
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>>78944239
>he thinks a 2:30am airing on a shitty block will result in companies localizing merch

I'm laughing so hard right now, it'd need to do 1.5mil and up every single week for those companies to even turn their head this way and consider localizing
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>>78944235
I dunno, when you factor in that Oda is a workaholic who only gets three hours of sleep, barely spends any time with his family, and has worked himself into exhausting to the point of where he's had to be hospitalized several times last year alone, it's kind of hard to envy his lifestyle.

>>78944299
The rights were sorted out a few months ago. Viz got Hunter x Hunter 2011.
https://twitter.com/vizmedia/status/652531677072359425
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>>78944299
Better get with the times bud, Viz announced they had it months ago and are working on a dub
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>>78943213
Other equally or older shows have nostalgia on their side.

Look I know it gets thrown out a lot and dismissed just as much but 4kids fucked up One Piece's chances in the west really bad and Toonami didn't help things at all, even when it was back on prime time. They have no problem saying going "Naruto is Uncut Now!" but comparatively it wasn't cut even a third as much as this show was.

There's a reason that people still make meme jokes about the 4kids BITE OF GUM GUM dub every week. That was the first impression, and first impression is the strongest.

And yes, also the art style isn't traditional "anime", so all the kids with deviantart pages and yaoi fangirls are turned off. And those are rather huge chunks of the anime supporting public.
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>>78944342
>>78944356

Oh fuck, thanks for correcting me. If I was Funi, I'd be pissed off. They would've been able to get YYH fans to buy the blu-rays and have been okay.

>>78944361

This. In hindsight, they should've started off from episode 1 to shake off the reputation that it had, but that probably would've been worse for everyone longer-term. From the work that Oda has put in, it really seems like OP has more heart behind it compared to Naruto, but such is life. You think this is the last year or will it get snuffed out when Jack finishes?
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>>78943836
>>NEVER EVER CANCEL ONE PIECE JAPAN LOVES IT EVEN THOUGH THIS ISNT JAPAN AND THE RATINGS SHOW AMERICANS ARENT FOND

Are you telling me you're NOT fond of One Piece?
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>>78944016
I like One Piece.
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>>78944437
Honestly both options would have fucked it, episode 1 would have put us millions of miles behind, there's already no hope of catching up from our current spot. But starting midway through, no one formed any attachment to the series

Anyway, Toonami has its ups and downs. Ratings are bad this week, but nowhere near panic tier. If these numbers are a recurring trend, that's when it's time to worry.

That said, I do think Champloo will be a liability its entire run. Whatever they announce to replace AgK is really gonna have to hit it out of the park to get the hype train moving again
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>>78942643
Next person that responds to you with that image should post this one in response to him.
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>>78944542
Not the anime, and not its place on Toonami.

The manga is stellar though. Take your pic for example, on Toonami that's 3-4 years away. It just doesn't work
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>>78944589

Hopefully that one anon makes a new image soon. Then people can post that - I think Naruto will get a boost once we get to the Sasuke stuff.
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>>78944619
Personally, I'm enjoying One Piece's run on Toonami. I'm a big One Piece fan, I don't have to stay up too late, and I actually think it's a really good dub, so it's good background noise.

I mean, the only show I really paid full attention to on Toonami was Michiko and Hatchin, because it's the only one I haven't seen before. Well, and Akame ga Kill, but I'm really not interested in it.
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Oh god it's true OP fans are fucking delusional. I really thought it was just fun to troll while pretending to be a OP fan.

I still don't know how to feel about the fact that despite the manga being so popular world-wide, I just can't fucking enjoy it. Everytime I try and go back and get into it, it's like when I tried to force myself into Homestuck
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>>78944938
You don't like One Piece?
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>>78944938
>comparing One Piece to Homestuck
C'mon m8, that's low.
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>>78944938
>Oh god it's true OP fans are fucking delusional.

How so?
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>>78944973
The fucking people in here who still think it's going to catch on the west any Saturday now or that watching it on a non-Nielsen tv supports anything.

>>78944971
I'm not comparing it quality wise. I'm comparing the fact that both have loud fandoms that praise it, yet any attempt to bring myself in leads me still not liking it.

>>78944959
I've tried for years. I think every year I make an attempt with the manga to see if this read will get me hooked. Then I close the tab and remind myself I probably will never like it.
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>>78945050
What don't you like about it?
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>>78945079
The tone, the art style, the feeling that it may be a never ending series like Detective Conan. They don't make me hate it alone, but they don't endear me to it And for whatever reason, the first few chapters just don't hook me. And yet I'm told I can't skip around with the series.
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>>78945050
>mfw I have a Nielson box
>I make sure my TV is off during One Piece every week
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>>78945162
>The tone

Well, what kind of tone DOES appeal to you? Because One Piece has it all.

>And yet I'm told I can't skip around with the series.

Who told you can't skip around? You can skip around all you want. If you want the story to make sense and want to know and love the characters, I don't recommend it.

>the feeling that it may be a never ending series like Detective Conan.

It's definitely going to end. There is an ending and the journey is getting there.
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One Piece fucking rules
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Can we last another cold night?
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>>78943554
>still beyond pissed i missed S2 Dandy and Black Lagoon

reair it already! how many new shows are actually going to replace the several ending in a few months?
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>has a wife with flat chest
>>78942816
>draws his females with gazongas
>>78943241
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>>78946607
i live in japan, can confirm that japanese women that actually have a noticable rack are incredibly fucking rare

>choose the patios
wat
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>>78946635
Oda's wife has bigger milk motels than your wives.
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>take 8 hour nap
>come back
>you motherfuckers burned 200~ posts fighting about naruto and one piece
so much for making it to saturday
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>>78946683
No surprise. Last week's ratings thread lasted from Wednesday night, to Friday, and that was due DeMarco shitposting.
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>>78946683
Don't fight over One Piece. Just appreciate it.
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>>78941644
That dog looks fucking terrified.

>>78941726
Got a chuckle.
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>>78942228
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>>78942643
Nicely done.
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>>78941281
compared to a year ago?? last year the ratings were so bad it caused the block to fucking shrink, thanks to Attack on Titan reruns.
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>>78942643
That's great.
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>>78945260
>Just making up shit.
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>>78941101
The 8:30 slot seems to have some other major problem that causes it to do terribly regardless of what's on there.

Just look at this week, it did 150k less than the slot following it and both were King of the Hill. That's just not right, I tell you what.
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>>78947968
nielsen box doesn't even matter that much anymore. programmers have other ways of tracking viewership and engagement like dvr and longtail viewers.
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>>78928316
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>>78931245
tsun is best
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>banned saturday for telling /pol/ to fuck off
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>>78942816
God she's adorable
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>>78946658
>ywn marry a 12/10 qt and dress her up in cosplay
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I love toonami!
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>>78948514
please anon, who is this qt?

>>78948631
>shit is tar black
go to a doctor anon.
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>>78948707
>doesn't know chain
I have been slacking on my Kekkai sensen posting
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>>78948817
no worries anon, just that I'm shit. Looks like fun
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>>78948882
good show, it would be perfect for toonami
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I found sum pitchers
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>>78948942
sadly a lot of great shows have yet to reach toonami
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Toonami needs more milfs not necessarily this one though I'd like it
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>>78936123
>Start watching subbed FT
>like it more and more with each passing episode

You know what fuck it. Ive seen more action, comedy, story, etc.... In the first 50 episodes of Fairy Tail than One Piece/Naruto combined in the past 2 years. It may be more cliched but its entertaining as fuck. Maybe DeMarco should beg Funi gor Fairy Tail.
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>>78949038
>those hips
>that thigh gap
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>>78949304
>wanting long running shows
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is she ok?
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>>78949420
yeah, she'll be alright even if she is a pain in the neck
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>>78949471
Careful anon, don't become overly confident in your abilities by attacking a far superior opponent thus leading to your decapitation at the hands of said opponent and also losing the tatsumibowl
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>>78949420
She got decapitated. What do you think?
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>>78949549
a shame, she truly deserved to live. If only she weren't in such a shit show
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>>78945272
I like alot of tones, but OP just seems too goofy.

Anons on 4chan, randoms on forums, heck you just told me that I'm not going to get attached to characters if I skip around. But I'm already not attached to Luffy and Nami after 10 chapters (though I do like Zoro)

And One Piece has already outlived Naruto, I know Oda said that getting to the ending is what motivates him to keep writing, but the massive amount of chapters doesn't do me favors in wanting to get into it.
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when
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>>78944361
>muh 4kids

Fuck off, One Piece was never going to be big. It's been close to decade. People are never going to watch this shit.
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>>78950399
soon anon, soon
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>>78950621
But when anon, WHEN? Toonami needs some Ikuhara in it's veins.
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>>78951314
don't we all
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>>78951454
what's the original source on this?
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JoJo's would probably do better in One Piece's spot, even with all the homoerotic stuff going on in it.
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>>78951675
>JoJo's would
nope, too expensive
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>>78951675
Face it anon, we're never getting JoJo.
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>>78949589
She was a shit character
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>>78952587
yes, but was cute
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>>78952647
Cute doesn't make up for shit mate

That must be why so many people here have such shit taste in waifus
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>>78952674
wow now anon, never said waifu. You'd be nuts to waifu anyone in the show
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>>78946683
>don't have any discussion at all so the thread can sit on the board all week

Retard
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>>78948047
Bet you a nickel if they put another DBZ episode there it would do just fine
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>>78949420
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>>78952873
>Does Toonami NEED saving? ~Jason Demarco
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>>78947708
Don't compare to a year ago, compare to the rest of the short block nights. This was one of the lowest rated non marathon nights. Could be an off week, could be a new trend caused by Champloo. When we get this weeks numbers next Tuesday we will know
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>>78952051
I've never even seen it.
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>>78953057
then you should
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Trolls and shitposting aside like 90% of the hate for OP boils down to the art style, and there's just nothing that can be done about that.
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>>78941644
>that grey hair

JUST
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>>78953153
it just looks so terrible, not only that but the action and gags clearly ape off of dragon ball, but is done in such an over the top goofy way that makes Dragon Ball look like a moody angst piece.
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>>78953153
No. 90% of the hate boils down to the horrifically bad and drawn out pacing. Getting an average of 5 minutes of content out of every 22 minute episode is appalling.
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>>78952794
>Not waifuing qt ice warlord that draws her own fanart
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>>78942643
Needs a Kelly on the bottom right corner
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>>78948514
Can't stump the trump
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>>78953153
I personally Love OP and even I can understand that it's not everyone's cup of tea. Not that it helps that Oda trusted the worst animation company in japan (barring that one company that made gundo Musashi, I guess) to animate his series.
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>>78953508
Has One Piece actually won any awards? Has Oda actually won any awards for it? I've read people in this thread say that he's the most respected or liked, or whatever artist in Japan, and at times it kind of seems like they're just making stuff up.
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>>78952794
>not waifuing the qt justice girl
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>>78953365
Bestdeath!
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you people need to stop being so damn uptight about this stuff.
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>>78953948
>Bancho Satsuki
I'm not sure how to feel.
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>>78953796
He has the Guiness record, and he has a fuckton of money from the series. I want it off Toonami, but you can't argue it's a massive success
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>>78953796
Off the top of my head I know One piece broke the guiness book of world records for best selling manga.
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>>78954095
Success isn't respect or admiration for the author though. As far as I could tell One Piece won one award in 2012 and that's really it.

Really I'm just wondering where those comments come from of his being greatly respected or loved, or what have you. Specifically from his peers, since I think we all know that fans are more often than not a detriment to creators.
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>>78954346
Toriyama and him seem to be on good terms. Him and Kishimoto seem to have had a friendly rivalry going. That's all I really know.

Also I disagree. One piece has been the best selling manga in japan on several years. It doesn't really matter how many awards it makes. It makes a lot of money so I'd say it's damn successful.
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>>78954050
Best girl in best outfit
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>>78954964
>those lips
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>>78954548
But I never asked if it was successful, no where did I ask if it was successful, or say it wasn't. Awards are more a measure of critical acclaim, rather than monetary success.

To put things more bluntly and over simplified, as Oda made a Citizen Kane, or an Avengers?
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>>78955281
Both.
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>>78955281
oh definitely an avengers. I'm not even gonna pretend it's not. One piece isn't ground breaking. It's got a lot of flaws and it's far from a perfect series. But I doubt that's what he set out to do in the first place. One piece simply is one the many shounens in japan that seems to have its own charm to it. You become endeered to the world and characters but if you were to talk to me about how deep the characters are or how amazingly written or paced it is, I'd only say it's "Pretty good" or even just "it's not bad".

One Piece is a manga that simply succeeded in what it tried to do. But critically, I'd say it's nothing to special. To be fair, though. There's not a lot of weekly shonen manga I'd say are.
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>>78955281
>not having seen One Citizen Avenger
That one citizen got avenged as hell
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>>78955281
Did you really need to ask a question you could have had answered with one quick google search?
The One Piece manga was a finalist for the Tezuka Osamu Cultural Prize three times in a row from 2000 to 2002,[136][137][138] with the highest number of fan nominations in the first two years.[139]

The German translation of its 44th volume won the Sondermann audience award in the international manga category, a yearly comic award given in seven categories by the Frankfurt Book Fair, the Frankfurter Rundschau, Spiegel Online and Comicforum, at the Frankfurt Book Fair Comics Centre in 2005.[140][141]

In a 2008 poll by Oricon, Japanese teenagers elected it the most interesting manga.[142]

One Piece was nominated for Favorite Manga Series in Nickelodeon Magazine's 2009 Comics Awards.[143]

In 2012, One Piece won the 41st Japan Cartoonists Association Award Grand Prize, alongside Kimuchi Yokoyama's Nekodarake Nice.[144]

Da Vinci magazine named One Piece number three on their list of 2013's top manga, which was voted on 4,619 professional book reviewers, bookstore employees, and Da Vinci readers.[145]

On June 15, 2015, it was announced that Eiichiro Oda and One Piece had set the Guinness World Record for "The most copies published for the same comic book series by a single author."[146]
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>>78955502
>Both
Explain.

>>78955571
I can accept that, though I personally dislike the show and the comic.
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Oda has already won at life.
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>>78955664
>nominated
>finalist

He asked for awards, not second place
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>>78955766
Is that oda in the back with the blue shirt.
Because he just looks like "Yeah. This is my life. I wouldn't settle for anything less"
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Even though I appreciate One Piece's success and can understand it's high status in Japan and in the Anime/Manga community. The argument here is that to the western audience it's trying to attract has clearly no interest in it and that is shown with it's American T.V. ratings. But honestly, it being taken off Toonami is not going to dent it's popularity at all. If it's sales we declining in Japan that would be something to really worry about.
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>>78955571
Though, I would say the reason it sells so much is BECAUSE it's paced and written better than every other shonen manga out there.

I'm not even gonna pretend that Dragonball, Naruto, or Hunter x Hunter have character moments or themes as well written as One Piece. Nothing else in it's 'demographic' even comes close, dude. What are you smoking?

I mean, it speaks volumes that American fans thought Fishman Island was lame because most of them let the themes and overall point of it go right over their heads and could only talk about the punching.
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>>78955817
And I asked for him to not be a moron and use google when he has a fucking stupid question.
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>One Piece is what you'd get if Sponge Bob Squarepants rand for 700 episodes and turned into a super hero show
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>>78956074
>this delusion
You're acting all those feels people felt from other Shonen were fake.
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>>78956110
Well meme'd, friend.
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>>78956102
>trusting wikipedia over people who would be more apt to want to know things about this stuff.
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>>78941644
A million keks if someone gets into his account and changes his screen name to faggit king demarco.

Wonder how long it would take him to realize.
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>>78953253
>No. 90% of the hate boils down to the horrifically bad and drawn out pacing.
I'd say that was it but you guys don't bitch half as much about Shippuden, you didn't with Bleach, and even DBZ Kai which supposedly has all the padding taken out, still hasn't actually blown up Namek yet.

So yeah, I have a hard time believing it's just the pacing. The pacing isn't great, but other shows get a pass on it all the time.
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>>78956164
You know you have to use sources on wikipedia? That's what those numbers in brackets are in the articles.

And why would you trust 4chan shitposters for literally anything? How stupid are you?
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>>78956074
Naruto has character development a hundred times better than One Piece
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>reading an anime recomendation list
>Cowboy Bebop is called a western

Into the trash it goes.
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>>78956253
Naruto is paced exactly as poorly as the One Piece anime, has animation that's actually worse, and contains no huge breasts. No one bats an eye.
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>>78956257
No, it does not.
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>>78956253
>we don't bitch about Shitpudding

Because we don't watch it, it's a shit/fap break
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>>78956257
Where?
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>>78956253
The difference is Naruto and Bleach didn't have this big hype behind it by fans.
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>>78956312
Just the relationship between Naruto and Sauske is better than all the "characterization" of everyone in One Piece combined
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>>78943554
Yeah, the first couple years of the revival were grand.

Especially before the mods cracked down on funposting.
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>>78956300
I'd argue that Naruto is actually paced worse because when Naruto does filler, it gives him bullshit training arcs. Which never actually amount to new skills or growth, because they can't deviate from canon. One Piece does filler too, but at least they don't dress it up as the characters training new skills that they'll never use.

And it bugs me because Naruto had the potential to be the better series of the two by far.


>>78956327
Okay, fair enough.
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>>78956371
Is that a joke?
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>>78956371
>We were on a team for about a month and the whole time you spent it calling me an idot. Then you tried to kill me a dozen times. That makes us brothers! Remember that one time where I saw you sitting by the creek that was never referenced until this moment?

Naruto had better concepts but the follow through was FUBAR. Neji ended up being right and that's a narrative crime of the highest order.
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>>78936285
>no 7 minute recaps atleast
Yeah instead we just have to deal with the shit animation, story and characters so no different from Akame no Kill except longer.
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>>78944437
Part of One Piece's problem in the west was the 4kids localization, yes.

The other part is that the tweens like edgy ninja-wizards more than goofy-looking light-hearted adventure pirates.
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>>78949304
>In the first 50 episodes of Fairy Tail than One Piece/Naruto combined in the past 2 years.
I can barely remember any of the action in FT, that's how "exciting" it is. Your tastes is just awful.
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>>78956482
>Part of One Piece's problem in the west was the 4kids localization, yes.
YA-YO YA-YO! UH OH!
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>>78956074
I'd argue it's better than naruto, I guess. I'd say dragonball definitely has character moments on par with one piece although usually they tend to be smaller moments and not the main focus.

Here's the thing though. I'm not comparing One Piece to other Shounen. I'm looking at one piece critically as a piece of art.
Fishman island has a cool theme, but once you get into it, it's just racism. Like it doesn't really go much deeper than that and I'm not even sure if they could've. Hell. Super Mario Super show had a racism story. I like that Oda even had the balls to tackle a story like in a weekly manga for young boys and it does very well to set the tone for the whole arc but that's about it. The strawhats are basically simplistic stereotypes until the story demands their character have a strong opinion about something. Everything is very simplistic and easy to understand which is fine because it's made for young boys and big character moments tend to only come at times when it's necessary or changes something significant.
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>>78956454
Fairy Tail has more fap bait though.
Actually now that I think about it that'd probably mandate a few edits and cuts, especially later on.

You know the series is heavy with the stuff when even the characters go "I've seen you naked a billion times, why are you freaking out?"
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>someone actually thinks Naruto has better characterization than One Piece

One Piece actually gives you reasons to like characters other than 'they have cool powers'
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>>78949589
She was the only assassin who actually acted assassiny.

But she crossed a line killing pybro.

Of course, AGK's subtitle might as well be, "Nothing good will last more than a week."
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>>78956520
I agree with you but damn, Koala was surprisingly dark in execution all things considered.
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>>78938394
>plus if viz wants to stay on the block it means hunter x hunter more likely than not
Demarco will likely go after Sailor Moon than HxH. That show takes far too long to pick up and drags just as much as One Piece, its another show that gets overhyped.
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>>78956552
yeah, it's "they are really effective at using their random bullshit lame powers"
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If we got uncut Sonic X the ratings for the block would sky rocket because the fans would watch anything so related.
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>>78956520
>it's just racism
>it doesn't really go much deeper than that

Do you understand what you're suggesting?
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>>78956649
I think even sonic fans hate sonic X.
That being said I'm sure they'd definitely watch it.
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>>78956552
That's not fair. Naruto gives you reasons to like characters too. They're just not the main characters, so they only show up in filler or once every five years. That's the real problem.

Make the show about like, Shikamaru, Hinata, and Rock Lee. Then it'd be ten times better.
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>>78956649
>no Coldsteel
>good ratings
Psssh
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>>78956731
Rock Lee is the only interesting one out of those three characters. In my opinion.
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>>78956718
>and I'm not even sure if they could've.
did you just stop mid-sentence?
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>>78956766
Seeing as how he's the one that got the spinoff I can't really argue that he's the best of the three.
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what episode is one piece on, anyway?
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>>78956886
They're at the part where the Straw Hats are being targeted by Don Achino for their bounties.
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>>78956995
Numbers, man, what episode number.
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>>78956618
Sailor Moon is locked down on Hulu. Chances of a Toonami run are next to nil.

>>78933357
>>78937173
I'm honestly inclined to believe the Champloo pickup was Funimation dicking around and not taking their 15+ year relationship with Turner seriously anymore.
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>>78957027
TVGuide says the next episode title is "The Assassins Attack! The Great Battle Above the Ice Begins"
I'm sure I could turn that into a number if I cared.
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>>78957027
I don't think about it in terms of numbers.
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>>78957117
then you're not helpful to me.
>>78957108
so episode 329, a perfect number.

So here's the question. What should Toonami actually be? What is its main goal? Should there be an emphasis on newer shows, or older ones? Right now it's sitting at Three mainstay shows, one new show, and one rerun show.

As a viewer, this doesn't look very appealing to me. One could say that DBZ, Naruto, and One Piece are legacy shows. They're been airing since 2005 (or 1998) that it's tradition to have them there. But what this means is that, for the rest of Toonami's lifespan (however long it may be) you will only have an hour on the block to devote to anything new, half an hour if one show is always going to be rerunning of an older show. Toonami will die before it gets to the current episode of One Piece or Naruto. I'd rather have new shows in the place of the legacy ones, personally, but costs more than likely won't allow it.
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>>78942808
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>>78956649
put it at the end of the block, autists will stay up to watch it.
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>>78956377
Honestly I feel like funposting was cracked down on more back then. Remember how many AoT posts were deleted?
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Is OPM as hot an item for Toonami as Titan was?
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@78958457
>tfw you can't report people for being stupid
not even gonna give you a (you)
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>>78941077
Goto sleep Demarco.
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>>78958508
Oh the irony.
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>>78958457
I like OPM but I honestly don't want it on Toonami because they'd cut the OP and I need that JAM Project to get hype.
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>>78948047
what could do that slot justice? Maybe... Samurai Jack, in preparation for the new season? CN used to air it around that time on Toonami.
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>>78957689
The issue with long runner legacy shows is that we're really far behind in them. Anyone who cares about these shows is already caught up, or at least further than we are now. A smart network would at least skip filler episodes so that the story moves quicker. If toonami had the funds or pull they'd ideally be showing two of the mainstays nightly so that we'd catch up faster. Of course then it'd be on funimation and viz to start dubbing one piece/naruto/DBZ at the pace of a simuldub and considering how large the cast is for that, including one piece, I'm sure they're not in any hurry to do that.
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>>78958795
hello reddit
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This >>78958841
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>>78957689
Toonami shouldn't be focusing on "tradition". That will kill the block. The only way it can survive is if it focuses on fresh content
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>>78958457
No, can you buy OPM merch at Hot Topic? It's not that popular
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>>78958841
one thing I'd like to add is that the long runner legacy shows have a lot of filler, and showing only 1 episode per week really slow things down.
I remember they used to show 1 hour of OP or Naruto per week, that sort of works, but when they had most of the night.
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>>78957101
They could probably cut a deal for the DIC/Cloverway Sailor Moon dub. God knows it's better than Crystal and I'm sure they can get it cheap. Especially since it's money that Toei could make off a franchise who's big revival turned out to be a HUGE flop of epic proportion.
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>>78959777
>They could probably cut a deal for the DIC/Cloverway Sailor Moon dub
NO
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>>78959898
Osomatsu-kun during commercial breaks when?
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>>78960156
Never Ever.
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Ruroni Kenshin is now on netflix, it'll be on Toonami in a few months
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>408 posts

we're not gonna make it lads
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BREAKING: Looks like we can rule Garo and Rage of Bahamut Genesis out for airing on Toonami any time soon.
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>>78960594
That's the opposite of how that works.
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>>78960352
When One Piece returned to Toonami, Funimation should have tossed in a couple of clip show specials recapping the series up to the start of the Toonami return episode as part of the deal. Air the clip shows as specials THEN start running the main series, to get everyone caught up. `
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>>78960764
Let's be real, we can rule out anything new from Funimation at this point
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>>78961308
No need, we got those clip shows last November and part of January :^)
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>>78960764

What service is this? Also, what happens if we get poor numbers this weekend as well? I don't think that we will, but it is a holiday weekend (for some).
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>>78961450
It will take atleast 4 consecutive weeks of numbers like we had this week to spark an interest from higher ups to make a change. If they go lower, it may be sooner
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>>78961361
This. Until Funi shows otherwise we can't count on them for new stuff anymore. I'd even be genuinely surprised if we get AoT S2, because you know damn well the price will be even higher than the first

Also is anyone else getting 2 word captchas instead of house numbers? Been like this for a few days, cookie deletion didn't change it
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>>78926812
The key to fixing these ratings is right in front of their face, why won't they take it?
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>>78962212
Because DeMarco would have to censor it.
since he is afraid of boobs and ass.
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>>78961308
Why aren't you guys caught up already?
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>>78962212
how is a music video supposed to help the ratings of a midnight block?
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>>78960705
We are going to make it you fuck. Just believe in the me that believes in me.
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>>78963748
memes
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>>78963748
Seeing how the hipster shit Demarco puts on during Naruto doesn't fix anything, I'd say it doesn't
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>>78963847
don't you mean mememes?
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>>78950399
>>78950621
>>78951314
>>78951454
>You will never witness episode 34 with Toonami General
>you will never witness Nanami Episodes with Toonami General
>you will never witness the Ending of the Movie with Toonami General
It hurt like 1000 swords of hate
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>>78957101
>Sailor Moon is locked down on Hulu
So is Naruto and the bulk of Viz catalog.
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>>78964465
Is Netflix good for anime?
I know they have a tag for it, but haven't checked it out yet.
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Ok lads, you all purchased atleast 1 lotto ticket, right? With this level of jackpot, screw the odds, it's worth $2 to participate

If any of us win, you HAVE to go buy Toonami.
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>>78964495

It's decent. It's not 10/10 holy shit, best lineup ever, but you'll have something to watch.
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>>78963948
:^)
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>>78964495
eh, they have a few movies and Knights of Sidonia
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>>78964359
Okay, now there's a large empty space for my knowledge of what's been on Toonami but, has Utena ever been on it?

I'd totally watch Utena with you guys.
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>>78964502
If AS even allowed you to buy 3 and a half hours of their airtime once per week, how far would that set you back? Atleast a couple hundred million I'd assume

I'd suggest just donating to Toonami, but that would still leave Demarco in charge who is the cause of most of the problems. Or would Demarco's love of shekels make you his pawn since you would be such a large benefactor?
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>>78964887
It hasn't but more than likely falls into the too old category
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>>78960764
>no Favaro

THE JEWS DID THIS
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>>78964887
>has Utena ever been on it?
Never, it would have probably never passed the censors (at least in America since it aired on a childrens time slot in Japan [Yes, even episdoe 34] and aired in some parts of Spain), but that's why I feel it's so perfect for it despite it's infamous dub (at least amoung the community, it's actually pretty standard for the time). Specially since it's kinda a "known but still cult" anime that came out on that generation of anime Toonami became famous for airing, so it has nostalgic appeal. And even if I don't wanna admit it, it would be perfect to get those tumblr viewers the block seems to depend on.
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>>78965083
I would buy friday nights, use mutated TOM1 and SARA to host ye elden time pre-family guy AS shows anything from old dragonball to everything else.
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>>78965219
Yea you fucking wish, you MIGHT be able to afford Toonami, there's no fucking way you could afford prime time Family Guy slots
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>>78965347
Oh I was thinking after the life action shit from midnight to three.
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>>78965186
>a show that has never aired on US TV before
>having nostalgia appeal

Are you retarded?
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>>78964502
If I win, I'm paying AS to air The End of Evangelion uncut.
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>>78964502
>go to gas station for smokes
>line is long as hell
>ask why
>lotto
jesus christ, the lotto people are making bank right now, and the person in line told me that he went to another gas station and the machine was not working
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>>78965378
It's still a "big anime form that Era" that a lot of Oldtaku love to talk endlessly about (me included) and it did come out in DVD and was (relativily) pretty popular in that format.
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>>78965396
My Nigga
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Hey I just thought of something, remember when Toonami shilled Xbox to pay for that Absolution game room animation?

That shits gone for good now kek
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>>78965396
>>78964502
If I win I'm buying the rights to Outlaw Star and personally funding a real sequel in some form or another.
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>>78965547
That is why nobody is buying the xbox one
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