Verdicts on ANAD Marvel?
Too early to assess the numbers but a lot of smaller books are doing quite well (Spider-Gwen, Ms Marvel and Silk)
Whor and Bendis-Ironman are selling well enough that there will not be a change any time soon
Starlord, Angela, Black Knight and Nova will be cancelled in 12
Xbooks doing worse than ever
Inhumans have multiple terrible books for some reason
>they may not be selling big numbers
Fewer books than usual
> but they're still outselling Inhumans despite how much pushing the latter has gotten
No one at any point bought into the Inhumans push, it was all to transparent
>Too early to assess the numbers but a lot of smaller books are doing quite well (Spider-Gwen, Ms Marvel and Silk)
Spider-Gwen is selling worse than it was before they relaunched it
So far the books I like, not in any particular order:
Moongirl and Devil Dinosaur
Totally Awesome Hulk
outside of that there are a few decent ones, but those ones are my favorites from the bunch, and that's not many to begin with
>Aaron can choke on a bag of dicks
Aaron is writing neither the X-men nor the Inhumans. He hasn't written an x-book in years, and I don't think he's ever written anything Inhumans related.
I don't see how he's relevant to the XvI pissing match.
Another ANAD thread?
Is this thread not enough?
Also, fuck Marvel, I want to talk about Omega Man. Just read issue #4 and I already feel like someone punched me in the gut.
Also, X-books are doing fine. I would worry more about New Avengers, Hercules, Ultimates, and other marvel's crap
DCYou has been good, I have been more a DC fan anyway (no hate to Marvel, just how I was raised is all)
The DCYou books I currently love are:
JL3K1(hopefully it' still good with the new team)
Robin Son of Batman ( I hope it goes back to form after the Robin arc)
Bizzarro was a good short, I am trade waiting for it actually.
IT was a nice self contained story about Bizzarro and Jimmy travelling in hopes of finding a place for Bizzarro to fit in, I hope it gets a sequel series down the line
>I definitely am interested in Dick and Midnigter
You won't be disappointed, Midnighter has a very action heavy feel with some real good looks into his mind and how he sees things
Grayson is just a great spy book with a cheeky Dick Grayson and is great because Tim Seeley is clearly having a great time with the writing, also the art is usually pretty top notch
From DC my current favorites/what I liked last year:
>Constantine: The Hellblazer
>Darkseid War GL and Shazam
>Legend of Wonder Woman
Really enjoyed the first issue of Swamp Thing too. Want to check out Robin SOB and Martian Manhunter, heard good things about them.
Section 8 had some nice meta references, but I think that 2015 year was weak for Ennis. I really felt like he was taking a piss at everything, including himself and his own works.
I believe that karma is a bitch.
Marvel's top talent left.
The main bread and butter of Marvel is Star Wars, something that is not even their own IP, and their only IPs that are selling moderately stable are Deadpool, Spider-Man and X-Men, two properties that they can't use in the movies. It's a matter of time, before it crashes down on marvel.
Section Eight was a real letdown for me. It was too irreverent, too disjointed to enjoy. I know it's Six Pack but I still expected more.
Where Monsters Dwell, on the other hand, was good shit. Loved every issue and I hadn't even read the previous stuff with the character.
Uh, not upwards to 60%-70% that early, no.
It used to be more like losing 50-60% by issue 4 or 5 and either staying there or gradually dropping a couple hundred to 1k each issue after.
Variants have muddled things a lot, even the 1:1 kind since some are more popular than others. The Joker variants were much more popular than the TTG variants and sales dropped that month because of it despite being pretty high the month before.
Speculation has muddled things too. Spider Gwen's sales had horrible drops for the entire first volume, and losing 20k between issues 4 and 5 used to be not normal.
>Justice League 3001 is now an all-girl team with wildly diverse personalities and nobody is shilling it.
They should have done that earlier when Porter was on the book and when there was still people caring about it. After Giffen/DeMatteis tried to shill their old Justice League I dropped it like hotcakes.
>Loved every issue and I hadn't even read the previous stuff with the character.
I guess that's why you loved it. The thing is, both felt like a caricature of Ennis. In Section 8 Ennis shills his Etrigan run through Phantom Strange / Etrigan singing duo, which felt for me like "no one reads it, so let's do whatever the fuck I want".
Where Monsters Dwell however feels like Ennis took a huge leak at feminists, sjws by giving them exactly what they want. It felt like Ennis thought "people are morons, let's play along"
I really enjoyed Section 8, but the ending was a bit anti-climatic. That's probably the only complaint I have about it, everything else worked for me.
Midnighter, Prez and Omega Men are my top 3 though, enjoyed every issue so far. Grayson is also pretty close, but I wasn't that impressed with the Gotham issue (aside from the Damian bit) and the Robin War crossover is eh. Very excited about the next arc though, looks pretty crazy from the solicitations.
>The main bread and butter of Marvel is Star Wars, something that is not even their own IP
You do know that has been true for Marvel's best days. SW the very first mini series by Roy Thomas adapted ANH saved the company from bankruptcy. And of course even in Marvel's best days they had a large shared of licensed characters and books such as ROM, Transformers, GI Joe, Godzilla, Fu Manchu, Conan and Micronauts.
I am thinking Star-Lord will just change writer and get another #1 there is no way they will cancel it, same gies with Angela since Marvel doesn't want them buying her to be for nothing.
Black Knight will get cancelled though.
The ending of Section 8 was probably supposed to be a jab at us, the comic book readers. We are the drunken hobo, foaming at mouth and caring about superheroes saving the world. So Ennis gave us Superman's cape to cover us while it's cold and sleep in our imaginary world.
In their "best" days they had something that they don't have now: millions of their comics being sold, variety (they also had an Epic imprint for adult comics, marvel graphic novels), and quality.
However, marvel's only best days were when Shooter was ruling them with iron fist.
They could literally smear their own shit on the pages and it'll still do okay. Anyway they could get rid of 75% of their MU books and add 15+ Star Wars books and be just fine.
Disney doesn't need marvel COMICS, they only need their IP for merchandise. If marvel comics sales go down, they can just shut their doors. Just because marvel is owned by Disney, doesn't mean that Disney has to support them infinitely. And we all know that there is an unofficial competition between various departments, especially when Perlmutter got btfo from Movies.
Well, that's what happens when you treat everyone around like shit. Marvel goofed by dividing their own fanbase with AvX. Civil War was a success because it was Avengers vs Avengers. Schism was a success because it was X-Men vs X-Men. AvX soured their fanbases, and turned toxic towards each other.
I swear, since AvX, Marvel was going straight downhill. And now they reached a point, where no one really cares anymore.
It wouldn't surprise me to learn that feminists liked it, but there's still a fun story in there.
I don't think all the stronk women were there to pander to a feminist reader. I think they were there to humiliate the main character, who is a legitimate scumbag. The story serves to shit on him and make him live on an island of shit like he deserves.
I don't think his intention was to pander. He was ridiculing them, by giving them their fantasy. The main character was a little more of a shitbag than previously, and he was bullied by a sister of a dude that bullied him for lolz and no deep reason. The book really felt full of malice, and it says a lot if you enjoyed it unironically, dear anon.
>Why would they care?
Because they fail to keep the books afloat, and have to use gazillion variants, and constantly relaunch the book, while 4 years ago, they didn't have a problem with continuing Journey into Mystery or Captain America with it's numbering, instead of restarting it.
And there is this pretty popular article recently by an LCS owner, who is deeply concerned about the future of being an LCS owner.
Just based on Vision thus far I'm pretty underwhelmed by Tom King. His Omega Man and that GL one shot was awesome though. Hulk is great. The little bit I've read of Hercules is awesome as is the continuation of Deadpool. Stegman has gotten better on the Avengers but it's still fairly bad which I'm really sad to see. Ewing has me intrigued with the Ultimates and I'm still waiting on some Citizen fuckin' V.
Daddy Disney will cover up money they need. Compare Disney to Time Warner. TW gives zero fucks about comics, doesn't shill or anything. Meanwhile, Disney turns on propaganda for "first Asian-American superheroine".
And next hero vs hero event starts, people go and buy it hoping to see hero they hate get beaten.
Are the new Vision, Cap, Illuminati, and Ultimate's worth reading?
I mainly read comics for the art, but, in the past I've been severely disappointing when my favorite artist leaves the book, and I'm stuck reading a sub-par story with shit art.
Also, nobody ever seems to talk about Weirdworld, I guess that'll get canceled eventually?
>Daddy Disney will cover up money they need
Why would they give money for a company that brings them losses? Marvel has to justify its existence
>And next hero vs hero event starts, people go and buy it hoping to see hero they hate get beaten.
Axis sold badly. Civil War II will sell good, because movies
Anon, you misunderstand me. I want LCS to burn. I want comic books market to crash. Painfully. The comics will survive, but this market has to crash, before it can become good again.
>Why would they give money for a company that brings them losses? Marvel has to justify its existence
Why would Marvel push books that don't sell? I still wait for Carol to justify her existence.
>Why would Marvel push books that don't sell? I still wait for Carol to justify her existence.
Because pandering, PR, long-term game. Also, they are deluded that it will finally bring them some profits. Someday.
Plus, exception to the rule. They can allow themselves one continuous stinker. It will however end after the movie is long out