So, Civil War II's deaths might've leaked

>>78919568
woah.. so creative... so this is the power... of the house of ideas...

That seems totally plausible but real leaks this early don't seem like

>>78919568
D'oh

This is so stupid I shouldn't be surprised that retards on the Internet will believe it

>"leaks"
Fucking play station website teenagers

>>78919621
Hey Bendis

>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homer

Soooooooo original, Marvel.

It's probably fake, but it is such a bad plot that is totally believable for a Marvel event.
Not related to this thread, but cn someone post the civil war ii bingo?

>>78919625
Wow le ebin Bendis meme could you be any more of a fucking newfag

If you're gonna shitpost at least put a modicum of effort into it you god damn gibbon

Assuming this is true why the fuck would they shove Thanos in this as well?

Also Tony blaming Carol for Rhodey's death makes no sense. Fucking Thanos murdered his ass.

>thanos
Please keep your neofag fanfic bullshit out of here. Go back to playing bloodborne

>>78919568
>Killing off She-Hulk while pushing a Dyke that gets 1/3 of her numbers

I'm skipping this entire event.

>>78919641
Why so mad, Bendis? Your comics not selling? Your daughter not in the mood to suck daddy's bloated dick?

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>>78919568
Suuuuuuuuure.
We all know they won't kill off she Hulk.

Why do you all care? All their gonna do is bring them back a year down the line with some bullshit macguffin.

>linking NeoGaf

consider suicide as an option

>>78919725
This is what makes it believable

>>78919725
She-Hulk sold less than Captain Marvel, that's why it was cancelled.

>>78919752
>I'm almost enjoying my anger.jpg

>>78919568
More names mentioned by that neofaggot include:
>Damien Hellstrom
>Wanda
>Jessica Drew

>implying they would be minor characters in the story
>neofag in charge of comic book rumors

The timing of this is a little too perfect with Bruce currently incapacitated/away. This summary would too easily lead into World War Hulk 2.

>>78919729
That's Quesada you retard. Get your shit straight.

>>78919689
>why the fuck would they shove Thanos in this as well?

Because Marvel is led by morons who keep pushing movie cues into the comic events, causing them to loop stories because I guess they didn't get the memo that the movies are retelling shit that already happened in the comics.

Hence, Age of Ultron, Spider-Man Back in Black, Thanos returning in the first place to battle the convenient roster of the MCU Avengers. and now another Civil War to coincide with the movie. It goes on and on.

>>78919568
Even if this was the plan, which it isn't, it's going to change twenty times before it's written and published. Rumors about comics are worthless.

>>78919741
How sure are you of that?
She won't be a part of the MCU ever so it's entirely a possibility.

>>78919883
They've got her running vforce I guess. Spider-woman seems unlikely

>>78919729
the fuck dude

>>78919807

And they're just big enough fucking hacks to it.

Coincide with Hulk coming back in Thor Ragnarok.

Who gives a fuck about ironblack and shulk? people cared about the first civil war because it was like 9/11 part 2, no one is gonna give a fuck about those second rate characters.

>>78919584
the house of recycled bad ideas

>>78919621
>This is so stupid I shouldn't be surprised that retards on the Internet will believe it
we believe it because it is so damn ridicule, and we are talking about Marvel Comics

>>78919957
>implying tumblr won't be outraged over a black man and powerful woman getting btfo

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Sounds utterly fucking retarded.

I believe it.

>>78919992

Just wait until Rhodey dies in the Civil War movie.

>>78919957
I give several fucks about She-Hulk.

>>78919831
This. The suggestion that brains formulate an over arching storyline and then stick to it in the hodgepodge clusterfuck that is a major multi-title crossover is fucking laughable.

>>78919568
>Neofag

Even Sonyggers from /v/ has to do their own research before believing anything from site

This is a Bendis story. No way all this happens in the first issue.

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>>78919640
Bingo?

>>78920080
This actually makes me nauseated.

I know reality has just shattered and all, but they have to remember they decided that infighting was a shitty idea because it allowed them to be completely infiltrated by Skrull spies..right?

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>>78920080
Bingo, y'know?

>>78919568
>homer is an inhuman
Doo'h

>>78920135
Do, "LOOK THE INHIMANS!" and Characters acting out of character

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>>78919568
>He's an Inhuman named Homer. I shit you not. No code name, no Inhuman moniker, just Homer.

And no chance that maybe, just maybe, the name Homer was chosen as a specific reference?

>>78920180
That's what I was thinking.

>>78920180
Maybe he's blind?

This doesn't sound right. I doubt they would kill people off the bat, and Thanos appearing makes no sense as why the heroes would be fighting each other. He is too big of a threat for everyone to go hero vs. hero.

The Homer thing does seem like something Marvel would do thoguh

>neogaf
>that poster's only posts are in that thread
Sounds legit.

They're pulling a minority report?
Kinda bold making Carol the bad guy
I thought they were trying to do the whole girl power thing and women can do no wrong/evil
Unless arresting people for crimes they haven't done yet is Marvel's idea of justice.

>>78919568
Is Peter coming back as Star Lord already?
Or is Kitty in her bulking phase?

>>78919568
And now everyone will start believing this is the real thing forever like total retards.

Business like usual here on /co/.

>>78920249
This is Bendis though, he's a bit more old-fashioned in his disdain for women.

How long till it is posted on Bleeding Cool?

>>78920255
Peter is coming back issue 6. Kitty becomes ninja space girl or something like that.

>>78920271
couple of hours

>>78920249
>Unless arresting people for crimes they haven't done yet is Marvel's idea of justice.

It's the modern day liberal's idea of justice so don't be surprised when Carol's side is the depicted as the righteous one.

Also expect references to Black Lives Matter and Gamer Gate.

>>78920301
The Black Lives Matter side is clearly the anti-future crimes side. That's why FalCap is on it.

>>78920301
>what is the patriot act
Liberals saw pro-registration as an allegory for that, conservatives saw it as an allegory for gun control, everyone wants to be an authoritarian when they're in charge.

>>78920325
Yeah
The whole dindu nuffin thing and all

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>>78920325

He turns.

>civil war started because of a mutant
>civil war 2 starts because of an inhuman

>>78920301
>side with Iron Memer, Memelord and FalCap
>not the right side

>>78920353
P O E T R Y

O

E

T

R

Y

>>78920353
>Nitro
>Mutant

>>78920279
Doesn't Rich live on the west coast? If so then he's probably not even awake yet.

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>>78920420
I already sent the tip through the website

>>78920446
You magnificent bastard. Bless you, Sheev

>>78920301
Actually, it's about ethics in Bendis retconning

>>78920249
>Kinda bold making Carol the bad guy
Yeah nah she'll be right because Carol Corps and they need to keep pushing her even though no one gives a shit

You know, at this point, I am just on cameo watch.

Thank god I jumped ship to DC

>>78921005
Except she's going up against Tony, who Marvel insists is their #1 Superhero and their flagship title.

>>78921026
The same DC that is sinking?!

>>78921058
Its sinking slower and the band is still playing

>>78919725
Killing off She-Hulk? No. That would be terrible. And no way would Jen be for punishing people for future crimes. She's a strong civil liberties type.

Also, I hate that we always have to do big character deaths.

It's kinda weird. It would be better for Marvel to just admit that 1000s of New Yorkers regularly die when these superheroes have their fights and just deal with it that way than having to kill a character. If the the character is worthless, we see the trope for what it is-- shameless hack writing. If the character is popular, its also shameless and insulting because every character is someones favorite character.

>>78921039
Unless they're trying to wean us off Tony since RDJ's run is coming to an end

>>78919568
So kill Black Iron Man and kill She Hulk so Asian Thor is the only one.

>>78920249
Well, if the spoilers are true and Shulk dies, you can expect:
>Shulk dying on a table
>Carol feels regret. Wants to stop using Inhuman guy.
>Shulk says no
>"As a Lawyer, I've had to defend countless woman and girls that were abused by their parents, husbands (not spouses, but husbands, lesbians are perfect and can't abuse, you rapist ;^)) and relatives. I would give up anything to avoid them being in this situation in the first place and now you have the power to do that".
>Dies
>"Lets go, Corp. We have innocents to save"
Done, Carol is in the wrong but still perfect Strong Role Model for Girl (TM).

>>78920373
>x-fags
>not spreading misinformation

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>>78919568

I see dead people in the future.. and donughts! Mmmm donughts.

>>78919568
>Warmachine
>dies

Yeah I know he will just come back, but fuck Marvel and fuck Disney jews.

>>78921905
He is just Player 2 Iron Man and doesn't build his own shit.

War Machine is ded tho

>>78919568
this is so fucking retarded

>>78919568
totally fake but plausible enough that i cringed while reading it

>>78920180
Yeah, I don't really understand all the Simpsons references people are using.

It sounds retarded, but the only unbelievable bit to me is the part about Thanos.

>>78921155
Killing Shulky makes sense in the sense that she's not a character that would be primed for the MCU treatment since the Hulk movie rights are still a mess, and Marvel has made like 12 comedy books with female leads to take her place.

It's Jen advocating the use of prosecuting Pre-Crime that's disgusting.

>>78919568
>Homer
It's so stupid I believe it.

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>>78920279
>he actually did it

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>>78923430

>>78919568
>two whatevers dying

Wow I'll be super invested

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>>78919568
>named Homer

Vintage Bendis, I genuinely want this to be true

Marvel keeps insisting on ramming Carol down our throats, thinking that's going to make her popular. That itself is more off-putting than the likely mediocre story Bendis is going to tell.

>>78920180
D'Oh!

not jen

not like this

fuck you bendis

Are they really killing off the only female with a college degree?

>>78923812

Doesn't Sue Richards have a college degree? Wait...

>>78923812
>>78923752

bendis needs jessica jones to shine

>>78919568
You do realize Homer was the author of the Iliad and the Odyssey, two of the best books in western culture, before he was a yellow fat fuck right?

>>78923430
Can Bleeding Cool be considered journalism at all? I think 4chan has more dignity than Rich.

>this thread is still up
>people are still posting about bullshit rumours about a comic everyone knows will be garbage anyway

this board is shit. SHIT.

>>78923980
Yes. People have already pointed that out.

>>78924036
Good.

>>78919953
>WWHII is Hulk coming back from h'el with warriors across space and time
>Amadeus the only line of defense
>By Pak and Cho
I...that actually sounds cool. Stop convincing myself...

>>78923812
Carol's a colonel, doesn't she have to have a degree?

>>78924020
>this board is shit. SHIT.
Have you considered, like, stopping visiting it?

>marvel
>killing a woman and a black

hehe.... hahaahaha... ohoho.. heh.. ha... no.

>>78919568
Wait, that makes no fucking sense.

How did this pre-crime get Rhodey "killed" if he Thanos attacking Earth was going to happen anyway? The only thing it would do is prevent more people from dying.

What the fuck is the problem there?

>>78924065


She would've had to have at least a bachelor's degree for Air Force.

>>78923812
the X-Men all have degrees from their sketchy school

>>78924065
yeah in journalism she was also a writer back in the day.

>>78924064
It does not sound cool. Sorry

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>>78924188
Rogue is probably close to retarded

>>78924262
Jeez Rogue, that is worse than "human" levels

>>78919568
The funniest part is how he describes Thanos fighting She Hulk and War Machine as a total street guy. Is he going to use the Thanoscopter to escape as well? Even funnier because no one noticed him landing except two guys.

Knowing some competent people were involved on the creation of this story I refuse to believe it's this retarded. I instead will brand the faggot Neofag poster a shit for brains guy and wait for it to be released.

>>78924313
Teenage runaway, never even graduated from high school. Maybe one day she'll get her GED just for the feeling of accomplishment.

>>78924326
>Bendis
>modern Brevoort
>competent

>>78919568
I mean on one hand NeoFAG but on the other I wouldn't doubt this.

Knowing NeoFAG they're probably crying that a black and a woman die but not a cis white male.

>>78924262

>X-men confirmed for dumb as stumps

This explains so many things, all at once.

more rumors

http://www.bleedingcool.com/2016/01/12/are-these-massive-spoilers-for-civil-war-ii-or-just-neogaf-fan-fic/

> Stark throws a big party for all the heroes when they beat the first big monster, and the party sees Damien Hellstrom hitting on Wanda. Jessica Drew is watching this, talking with other heroes and says something to the effect of “Come on Wanda, just say it. No more Hellstroms!”

> Speaking of Jessica Drew, she’s had her kid at this point but they don’t give any details on it. Bendis seems to have a tough time keeping straight who exactly is on which team.

> Carol wants to look into the future because “the Ultimates trying to prevent future catastrophes is sort of our thing!”

> Tony explains how him being a Futurist is exactly WHY he doesn’t want to use Homer as “everything has a natural order”. This is explained through typical Bendis fashion with Tony stopping mid-sentence to tell everyone to “listen”.

>>78921058
>just read it because its popular

>>78924714
Nah, instead there should be a teamup of infernal and chaotic spellslingers.

>>78923430
M
ABSOLUTE
D
M
A
N

>>78921555
Wait he isnt ? How did he get his powers then ?

>>78925074
Kree science

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>>78919568
How many times do they gotta keep bringing in Thanos? Bendis trying too hard for the MCU.

>>78924714
>>78919568

I could see this being real for a first draft and not the final one. Ever read the pitch for Civil War by Millar?

https://web.archive.org/web/20070819043637/http://marvel.com/blogs/Tom_Brevoort/entry/814

This is bullshit but the idea they'd name him Homer is hilarious. Like they know it should be Greek but didn't try at all

>>78925398
>"They could fight Fury and SHIELD"
>"lol, why don't they just fight each other"
>Everyone stops, money falls from the sky

>>78919689
>Assuming this is true why the fuck would they shove Thanos in this as well?

Well the real question right now is why is Star-Lord in Civil War II?

>>78925449

dots are connecting!

but the event doesn't match what they were describing in the NYTimes article at all

reminder bendis is planting seeds for Annihilation 2

>>78925426
That is the exact moment where Millar killed Marvel. That one fucking sentence.

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>>78919568
>Homer

>>78925247
>Kree science
So you mean he's inhuman?

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>>78919568
>She-Hulk dying
She is my waifu, mates!
I don't really care too much, I don't even read comics anymore

>>78922564
>>78920180
It's pretty obvious it's a reference to the writer of the Iliad and the Odyssey, but it comes off mundane and to people with subpar education they'll automatically think of the Simpsons.

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>Killing off Jen

>>78924262
Is this how "Rogue can't read" CBR meme started?

>>78919919
She's in A-Force and it looks like she and Miles are going to be the TAH supporting cast.

>>78925398
Millar:

The issue opens, as discussed, with a small-scale superhero involved into a big action set-piece where all the jokes and the acrobatics get punctured by a stray bullet going right through a little kid. At the moment I’d like the hero to be Speedball and the kid in question, if such a kid exists, should be the son of Tony’s buddy Happy Hogan.

Quesada:

You sly BASTARD, that’s brilliant. You just made Tony’s point justified. BRILLIANT. Mark, what you do need in the opening is something that recaps the world and tells us of the building tensions so that this can have impact. Perhaps a panel by panel recap of events as a news cast only to pull out to see happy Hogan and his son at some sort of theme café in Time’s Square, perhaps the ESPN Café since they would have a thousands screens and possibly the news. They go for a cheerful father and son outing all the while you’re intercutting between them and a simple bankrobbery about to be foiled by Speedball. Cripes this kid is your Sue Dibny except his insignificance in Marvel continuity and his connection to Tony is that tiny hole in the dike that starts the flood. Did Tom B give you this, because no way you’re that smart.

Brevoort:

It’s a nice thought, but it’s been pretty clearly established that Happy and Pepper don’t have any kids. They do feel like the right characters, though, so maybe there’s some way to do this. Having them have adopted a kid that we’re only going to kill a minute later seems crass. Would it work if we killed Happy himself, or maybe Pepper?

Millar:

Cap’s argument for civil liberties is very compelling, but I wanted to beef up Tony’s involvement on the other side and a superhero’s carelessness causing the death of his Godson seems like the perfect emotional turning point for him. The reader can absolutely empathize with why he wants his friends registered and licensed after this.

>>78924262
>X-Men are retards

>>78919590
>That seems totally plausible but real leaks this early don't seem like

We have seen early leaks that have only turned to be true in retrospectives when marvel discarded the leaks such as Nightcrawler being a Skrull in Secret Invasion.

>>78924714
Even if this bullshit were true, why would Wanda be allowed ANYWHERE NEAR Bendis?

>>78924262
>Storm has better mental powers than the telepath

>>78925730
>Would it work if we killed Happy himself, or maybe Pepper?

So this is why Happy died in Iron Man during Civil War.

>>78925852
Don't you know? She's better at magic than Strange, as well.

>>78919804
But Bendis actually knows who Damien Hellstrom is so this seems very plausible.

>>78919568
Here's a post from that same guy in that thread:

I had no idea that Carol and Rhodey were an item.

Because I can sure as hell tell you that Bendis doesn't know that either. When Rhodey is laying on the table, Carol's just concerned about Tony being all right, letting him know that she "loves Stark" (in a platonic way).

This is something that might get "fixed" though as the script has numerous times where Bendis asks Breevort to do research for him.

Yep, sounds like early draft.

>>78924020
Just collapse the thread senpai

>>78925485
Expect it around the time GOTG 2 comes out.

>>78925868
You could say she is black magic woman

>>78925949
Remember Brevoort talking about how Bendis' first draft for Secret Invasion went?

http://www.thecomicboard.com/forum/archive/index.php/t-10424.html

Brian,

Here’s some feedback on SECRET INVASION #1, all relatively easy stuff to nip and tuck. This issue came together nicely.

1) From Nick Lowe on SWORD:

S.W.O.R.D. isn’t a wing or subsidiary of S.H.I.E.L.D. or the US gov’t. It’s a completely separate entity that has worked with S.H.I.E.L.D. on occasion. They’re an intergalactic peace-keeping organization that doesn’t operate under any government or world’s control. In ASTONISHING, Brand mentions to Maria Hill that the only reason that S.H.I.E.L.D. knows that S.W.O.R.D. exists is because of her relationship with Nick Fury.

Possible solution- Rather than an inspection, Dugan’s reason for coming to the Peak (what the ship is called) could be one of a regular meeting they’ve set up to share information. It could still be special that it’s Dugan coming (maybe Maria Hill is the usual rep from S.H.I.E.L.D.) and I could imagine that Brand has a prior relationship with Dugan since she had one with Fury. And I could also imagine a few of the S.W.O.R.D. agents being really into meeting him.

Agent Brand’s characterization- She’s not really an excited school girl. She’s a sarcastic, all-business, hard-*** who has little time for…anything, really. But, like I said before, I could see that she and Dugan might have a positive relationship. But we usually treat her like she’s the one with the knowledge. She doesn’t ask questions too much. One place in particular that I might ask for a simple change would be reversing the dialogue on pages 18-19 panel 5 so that the agent asks the question and Brand answers it. The only other thing that I might ask is that Brand, rather than radioing the Helicarrier, might be trying to radio S.W.O.R.D. HQ and it might be jammed by XXX XXXXXX.

>>78926059
>black
She's transracial, anon.

>>78924262
>Storm
>Matches Wolverine in strength
>Stronger mental powers than Psylocke
>More intelligent than Cyclops

>>78925905
Proof

Did he read avenger undercover ? That was a shit hellstorm

>>78919568
>The whole story turns out to just be the future guy seeing what would happen if he revealed himself
>Months of your time and money wasted

You brought it on yourself

>>78924714
People being dicks to Wanda, fucking Spider-Woman of all people.

>>78919568
Wonder what will happen with ms. marvel in civil war

>>78926102
Hellstorm was in his New Avengers run around 48-54 and seems to at least show Bendis's knowledge of Marvel's magic side consists entirely of Strange, Wiccan and Hellstorm.

>>78926248
She'll have to make hard choice between following her IDOL or doing what is RIGHT.

>>78925949
Fucking Bendis is do retarded.

>Who is predicting the future?
>Some inhuman named Homer.
>Like the Simpson?
>Homer Simpson is an inhuman?
>They've predicted so much stuff on that show I wouldn't be surprised.
>No it's just a guy named Homer. He's not a Simpson.
>Is he at least yellow?
>I dunno.

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>>78919568
Whoever came up with this idea needs to be fired.

>>78925852
You forgot Claremont Storm. She was immune to telepaths because of her will.

Eventually, most of the X-Men were somewhat immune to telepaths with him. They all had a reason.

>>78924262
Can somebody explain me why everyone is as a strong as Woverine? I mean Rogue is logic to be strong, but the others are not like "I'm gonna lift this building" strong as Wolverine.

I think charts are wrong.

>>78926429
So, kick out all writers? Dunno who isn't part of Bendis cult.

It is definitely going to be Rhodey who dies, but I'm iffy on all the other stuff.

>>78926014
Doubt it. I bet Annihilation 2 will be some time this year.

>>78919568
>neogaf

>killing a black man and a woman

HAHAHAHAHA you fucking wishful retard

>>78919568
>Carol in place of Steve fucking Rodgers.

No, but thanks.

>>78932108
Glad I'm not the only one rolling my eyes over Caril being super relevant when not a single soul cares for her outside her very small, very annoying, very not buying comics, fanbase.

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>>78932150
Right. Can you see her saying something like this and everyone having a straight face.

>>78925847
Movie character

>>78935474
>Wanda will never be able to escape Bendis
It hurts

>>78919568
So this Marvel still pretending that Carol is important?

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>She-Hulk dies

>>78932108
>>78932903
Honestly uf this means Steve stays away from this bullshit I am all for it.

>>78919568
This is so stupid that it flips back to being plausible.

I guess we should keep an eye out for the future A-Force Solicits. If they say things like "A team member has fallen", then we'll know.

>>78932150
Yeah I think you're on point here. I consider myself a fan of Carol in the same way I'm a fan of watching characters spiral out of control with awful writers and never catch a break and have every attempt to revitalize them result in making them worse. It's like, I feel sorry for her and see a lot of potential in her but I really haven't ever bought one of her comics, even the ones I kind of like. I think it's a travesty to have a character with Marvel in their name get such shitty rags.

>>78919568
Captain Marvel's new, inconsistent, hairdo is very telling that she's the tumblr heroine.

From that link:

https://twitter.com/richjohnston/status/687048083105050624

What did Rich mean by this?

>>78941319
Somebody might've figured things out already.

>>78937140
This
I'm not getting why people are wanting Steve instead of Carol.

>>78941319
Disney's assassins are out for blood.

>>78941197
Marvel marketing is top tier. Guaranteed sales.

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>>78919631
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medusa

Soooooooo original, Marvel.

>This is what you sound like

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Why cant they just shill Sif or Val?


Why do we need another Murica fuck yeah military propaganda like captain whore?

>>78921155
>Marvel writing someone out of character for an event
Seems legit to me

>>78946003
Because book with them don't sell

It's just retarded enough to be true.

>>78920301
In no way is that the modern day liberal's idea of justice. Stop labeling everything you don't like as liberalism

>>78946003
Because, at least in America, Captain America is very popular. Probably they should just call her Ms. America and done.

The polt of these comics are totally inconsequential. Even if there was a leak they could throw something else together in a few weeks. I wouldn't care if a character died because I don't care about Marvel anymore

>>78919729
My daughter only sucks black cock like me
-Bendis :)

>>78920967
Hahaha nice one anon