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>New Rebels Clip: (Princess Leia CONFIRMED, New Episode Airs January 20th)
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I was ready for half an hour to make a thread too. Damn you're quick.
Anyway, Leia in Rebels next week.
I'm so great I forgot the link.
Young Leia looked more age appropriate in Force Unleashed.
>Greg Weisman, Andrea Broccardo et al.
>Comic Book & e-Comic Book [Marvel]
>• The rebels’ adventures on Kaller come to an end!
>• But when a friend from Kanan’s past needs help, he stays behind…
>• The look into the past of the former Jedi concludes here!
Fuck, Kanan is ending at Issue 12...
Any hope for an ongoing Ahsoka/TCW comic instead?
It would be wrong of her not to be lusting after Kanan, he's hot.
You guys do realize girls enter puberty faster than boys, right? And Leia has lived a pampered life as a Princess while Ezra was a street rat? Ezra probably wasn't even eating every day, and likely never had a good healthy meal that often. Probably stunted his growth. Leia's just one of those people that can pass for an adult in their mid-to-late teens due to their genes.
Besides, Leia's always looked on the old side. She was 19 in ANH.
>Kanan is ending at Issue 12...
Really, well damn, there goes the only good comic with good art.
>Any hope for an ongoing Ahsoka/TCW comic instead?
Not really, now it's time to market the OT and beyond. We might get something, if we're
>Tua a shit.
We've found the Rebel everyone.
>You guys do realize girls enter puberty faster than boys, right? And Leia has lived a pampered life as a Princess while Ezra was a street rat? Ezra probably wasn't even eating every day, and likely never had a good healthy meal that often. Probably stunted his growth. Leia's just one of those people that can pass for an adult in their mid-to-late teens due to their genes.
That'd be fine if we didn't already know that she somehow looks younger 4 years from now.
Carrie age 15, i don't get why people think puberty hits after that.
>give her one of the few not giant cannon rifles that actually has a stock
>Not one rifle butt bash the whole movie..
It just occurred to me earlier, now I'm even more mad about Phasma.
Dude, she looks older now than she did when she was in ANH. It's the cheeks, in ANH they're still plump and her face isn't as elongated.
>Anakin and Obi-Wan?
Haven't read it yet, is it good?
This. Compare the Rebels model to her look in ANH, and then this shot of her in ROTJ.
No one told the Stormtroopers they have one built into their blaster rifles.
It's pretty good so far.
The fact that Leia's face is slightly elongated and plumper can be attributed to the shows stylization. It's not supposed to be a perfect 1:1 live action translation. Look at Obi-Wan for example in Rebels style.
Which makes Phasma's even funnier because even with the added stock, it still has the folding one on there. Whoever was handling the designs probably didn't understand what all that junk under the barrel was supposed to be.
If they're going to waste our time going back to Lothal and to get a cameo of a very important main character from the OT, then they could have tried to make her look like Leia just a little bit. Honestly, if I wasn't told this was Princess Leia herself, I would have thought this was maybe Governor Pryce or some older senator from that planet.
It's all about McQuarrie concept art. Leia in Rebels looks just like a concept drawn up for her way back when. She didn't need her awful ANH hair or dressing style to make people know it's her.
When it has a fixed stock, the folding stock can be used as a foregrip.
This trooper knows what's up.
I like the new E-11, but this new heavy gun looks kinda "ehhhhh".
>"Kanan does she seem kind of... off to you?"
>"She's an Alderaanian princess, Ezra. Lots of partying."
>"Well, nothing wrong with partying, right?"
>"I don't think you're getting it. Lots of PARTYING. You get what I'm saying?"
>"Not really, no."
>"Her nose is Kessel."
She looks like Leia to me. Just in the shows style. Just like Vader does even though his mask looks like the McQuarrie concept art. Or Obi-Wan'a hologram even though he isn't a 1:1 copy of Ewan. Or how Tie fighter wings are slightly stubbier. Or how Stormtroopers have bigger helmets. Or how the bridge of Star Destroyers are slightly taller than in the films. It's all about stylization, m8.
Apparently Hyperspace Mountain at Disneyland is canon.
>The other thing that is exciting is that we worked with the Lucasfilm story team to make sure that our Hyperspace Mountain experience had its place in the Star Wars timeline and canon. One of the things you’ll hear from Admiral Ackbar is that we’re going to investigate a Star Destroyer near the planet Jakku , so our battle that is taking place is the Battle of Jakku, which we can see the aftermath of in all the Episode VII trailers. You can see the ground battle in Star Wars Battlefront, we’re just telling the space portion of that battle story.
Fucking tell me about it, dude. No TIE Bombers either.
BUT I GUESS PEOPLE WERE JUST CRYING OUT for a TIE Crawler set, right?
/co/'s thoughts on the final list of Young Solo actors?
Miles Teller ("Fantastic Four"),
Dave Franco ("Neighbors"),
Ansel Elgort ("The Fault in Our Stars")
Jack Reynor ("Transformers: Age of Extinction")
Scott Eastwood ("The Longest Ride"), Logan Lerman ("Fury"),
Emory Cohen ("Brooklyn")
Blake Jenner (from the upcoming Richard Linklater film "Everybody Wants Some")
That... Is interesting.
I'm sure they will. We need to know how this happened, it's pretty damn important if you ask me.
Hyperspace Mountain's pretty much the lead-up taking the rest of the battle we know of into account. Considering the riders role as a recon team investigating the Imp presence on Jakku and how you and the X-Wing Squadron escort blow up one Star Destroyer before bolting back to base, we're why the Imps send fucking everything over there and how Jakku became such a shitstorm.
What if our only hope is through Wendig now? Empire's End most definitely will show the Battle of Jakku, especially since it made a big point to introduce the Ravager in Aftermath.
I always do the highest difficulty I can, which is usually second-highest.
Sometimes I get to do the highest difficulty, but it can be a struggle.
I have a very strong suspicion that Wendig is going to cover the rest of the battle. I hope he has taken the criticism into account and it going to make his next books better, but honestly, I am not going in with high expectations.
>i don't get why people think puberty hits after that.
It's different for everyone.
Back in high school we had girls who looked like adults at age 16, while some others are still skinny and small-breasted as if they are 13 year olds, despite being near 30.
Ya I'm in the same boat, with a couple more or less ruining solo for me (teller, elgort)
I heard Rami Malek was in the running and I was on that hype train if only because it would be totally absurd
What's your ability setup? It can help a lot with tougher missions. I'm a bitch for the game, been meaning to do a dump from all the crews lore, the devs have subtly brought a lot from EU back into canon
Yeah, I don't want this either. A major part of the appeal of Han is Ford's performance, and the character on his own isn't quite as interesting without it, even if they do get someone who can mimic him. Though I guess if we HAVE to have a young Han, I'd rather it be Ingruber. I have no idea why any of these other guys are even being considered.
The stormtrooper blasters in ANH were actually blank-firing Sterling L2A3s. You can actually see them ejecting casings in the bridge scene.
>been meaning to do a dump from all the crews lore, the devs have subtly brought a lot from EU back into canon
Myself, and I am sure many others, would appreciate this.
Also, pic related for my abilities
I wanna see SOTE get a remake, redo fucking everything, add more from the book. It was such a huge side project back in the day, but the canon just get told fucked off, except for Outrider.
No, it's a Super Star Destroyer. The last one in the entire Empire, and it's inexplicably falling during the Battle of Jakku. We are yet to know why.
In Aftermath, he writes that he wouldn't have gotten the job if it wasn't for social media, and then he proceeds to give a shout out to twitter, and a user in particular.
Take that for what you will.
>Myself, and I am sure many others, would appreciate this.
Is there any easy way of doing this other than taking a million screen shots on my iOS device?
Your Ability set up is decent but once you get you Tier 2 content you need more Rank 2 abilities to keep up,I would recommend switching to Roll rather than grenade as Survivability > Damage. Personally I'm pimped out with 3 Rank 3's (Snipe, Roll, and Overcharge) but I've been playing for a while/lucked out on getting Silver tokens
>Is there any easy way of doing this other than taking a million screen shots on my iOS device?
You could just write it all down and post it like that if you dont wanna take screenshots, although screenshots would be appreciated.
And yeah, I definitely need to play catch-up with my abilities, they're dragging me down. I've been saving up for better ones.
Also, what do you mean by Silver tokens?
There's a Ravager in KotOR II yes, but this is a Super Star Destroyer with the same name
Its very mediocre. Poorly written. Nothing BAD happens in the book. But nothing much happens at all. It's easily the most boring book in all of Canon so far.
It's pretty much entirely set up for the sequel.
>That sounds horrible. How bad is Aftermath? Is it worth buying?
It's only useful for what it brings into the new canon (as books should be). It is literally not worth actually reading to learn this stuff, though, because it's written so horribly. If you really must read through it, spring for the audiobook in the OP (after some link hopping). Or, just look online to see if any kind soul summarized the important stuff. Absolutely don't buy it; rent it from a Library if you want a physical copy.
Kileko(a popular comics ripper I am regularly in contact with via Kaskus, and Indonesian forum I accidentally discovered one day) bought extra copies of USW, AEYNTK, and The Visual dictionary to debind and scan, but it turns out his printer's scanner is too small should he even debind them. He doesn't have the time, know-how, or funds to make a DIY scanner and aligning the scans would be a pain in he ass, so he's going to continue to investigate other options. Don't expect them any time soon.
No he doesn't. He may have witch hunted that one reviewer but he never claimed all the hate was from homophobia. Not that it makes his book any better, though. Still the worst of the new canon writing-wise.
i hope one day we get to see these lightsabers in a Star Wars movie.
>he never claimed all the hate was from homophobia.
>And if you’re upset because I put gay characters and a gay protagonist in the book, I got nothing for you. Sorry, you squawking saurian — meteor’s coming. And it’s a fabulously gay Nyan Cat meteor with a rainbow trailing behind it and your mode of thought will be extinct. You’re not the Rebel Alliance. You’re not the good guys. You’re the fucking Empire, man. You’re the shitty, oppressive, totalitarian Empire. If you can imagine a world where Luke Skywalker would be irritated that there were gay people around him, you completely missed the point of Star Wars. It’s like trying to picture Jesus kicking lepers in the throat instead of curing them. Stop being the Empire. Join the Rebel Alliance. We have love and inclusion and great music and cute droids.
>(By the way, the book also has an older woman, a mother, rescuing a man. So if that bothers you, you might wanna find a bunker for hunkering down. And I dunno if you noticed, but the three new protagonists of the movie consist of a woman, a black man, a Latino man. The bad guys all look like white guys, too. So many meteors. So little time to squawk at them.)
C'mon man, don't pull that bullshit. He's going all out for that excuse.
This is the kind of look Kotor should've had, instead of knock-offs of OT stuff.
And/or use the Jedi outfit concepts from TPM instead of the normal Jedi/Tatooine robes.
>>(By the way, the book also has an older woman, a mother, rescuing a man
What a joke
She doesnt rescue him
She gets so blinded by her bloodlust that she leaves her teenage son to go rescue him instead, steals a TIE Fighter, and then shits herself when she realizes that her Rebel buddies are shooting at her because she is in a fucking TIE.
She was straight up retarded.
>what is reading comprehension
He's not claiming all the hate is from homophobia. If you bothered to look at the preceding few paragraphs, he outlines several other reasons and only says "if you're upset because he put gay characters in" that he has nothing for you.
They already adopted that look for the Kage Warriors, actually
Interesting, I never noticed that.
I still think it'd be an interesting look for Jedi though, or just something similar to what Anakin wears and what Luke wears in RotJ.
I'd like to see him more in these robes, myself. They're really nice, especially with dad's bracers
Though I wonder where he got it
Not yet, no. This was for one of those Star Wars Insider short stories/novel excerpts. This one particularly for Heir to the Jedi
>"Rey, did I ever tell you about the time I first learned how to manipulate a pasta noodle with the force in order to to get in a girl's pants?"
>"It was a good meal."
We all know Ezra's ability to tap into the Dark Side is going to come up again later, the real question is how. What ramifications will it have on the plot? Will a Sith Lord witness this and become interested in getting him as an apprentice?
Oh I finally got a picture of this.
I recreated the fight scene from Weapon of a Jedi.
>Black Series Celebration Luke
>2005 RotS Magnaguard to get the Electrostaff
>TFA Sarco Plank + R2/C-3PO Pack
How autistic am I that I bought the Magnaguard specifically so Sarco could have the staff?
And if it helps me look a little less autistic, the Magnaguard looks cool standing next to Greivous
>all that spinning
Shit, it REALLY is a good trick!
I love Poe but I wish people would stop calling him a main character. Han, Rey, and Finn were the main characters. Poe was a secondary character at best. A very entertaining one but secondary.
True, but popping a boy cherry is popping a boy cherry regardless of the instrument of choice
So i just watched the Path of the Jedi ep of Rebels and wow after going through all of Clone Wars you really forget the Talent Frank Oz brings to Yoda.
not that Tom Kane is bad in any stetch of the imagination but Frank adds this old wizened quality to him and its so good
also holy crap didnt Frank Oz retire from the role? is Disney just grabbing anyone they can for this show from the old movies? did Jimmy Smits voice Bail's four or so lines in the one ep he was in?
Nope, just a really awful camera from a shitty old phone.
I like to recreate the more obscure Star Wars battles, looks nice on my shelf.
Here's the Season 1 Finale.
And yeah, I bought Ezra specifically so I could give Kanan the Lightsaber
Went into a Lego store the other day.
Sorry, my phone has Down syndrome.
Here's my favorite one though.
>OH NO POE IS DEAD
>oh well let's move on
>OH SHIT IT'S POE HE'S ALIVE
>oh hey yeah I woke up it was night and I called for help, I didn't think to try looking for the droid I risked my life going back to Jakku for I guess I just kind of forgot that I was supposed to be looking for him
He was meant to die early on but Abrams pretty much said "Eh no we're gonna keep you around we have it all planned out" but they didn't have shit planned out he just randomly pops up again.
Yeah, you could tell they only brought him back because they needed someone to focus on during the final dogfight. His return didn't make any sense, not so much the fact that he survived but the fact that for him to turn up at the time he did he would've had to completely ignore his original mission. Apparently he got Resistance folks to come pick him up and THEY also forgot his mission.
>caring about a franchise that supports Mary Sues
It's like Max Landis says, female portags are literally the worst.
Stop supporting this shitty soulless franchise that only cares about money.
Spend your time wisely and watch GOOD media like American Ultra and comics like American Alien.
Not everything, and Pablo Hidalgo was asked about that and he says no, HK is not Canon.
But he is clearly favorable enough to be included in that mobile game, so maybe he will be made Canon eventually.
Balancing him is a bitch
Oh shit nice.
If you like though, just upload them to an Imgur Gallery, you don't need to go through the effort of posting 80 images
Where were you when sjws won this?
I'll go back to /tg/ now
>heir to the Jedi Illustrations
see i read it as intentionally abrupt, at least the death. it was meant to happen suddenly and without control. and i kinda liked that part because of how it portrayed the dark side. how suddenly everything in the force became clearer and focused how his power swelled as he rode his rage.
though i will concede that the fallout from her death is swelled on enough. i mean yeah luke felt sad and learned the lesson of remembering the happy times and not letting her death fuel nevative emotions. but like, she was a rebel. she trained people. she was the daughter of a huge biolab owner who specifically danced with the empire to keep his daughter safe so she could be a rebel. what was his reaction?
There was a big "Where's Rey?" thing on social media protesting the lack of Rey merchandise (with special attention to Rey not having a player piece in the latest Star Wars Monopoly).
Turns out the lack of Rey stuff was just due to it not being shipped (Black Series Rey has started hitting stores in more numbers these last few days), but they got Monopoly to say they'd include a Rey piece in a later edition.
So... their victory was getting Rey added to Monopoly.
Where to start with this...
TFA Monopoly comes out in September, doesn't have Rey as a player token, movie comes out, some brat gets pissed that Rey's not in Monopoly and writes a letter about it, Hasbro responds that they didn't want to spoil the movie by having her in the game, letter and Hasbro response goes viral with the sjws and that stupid wheresrey thing and gender equality goes full swing, Hasbro eventually caves in and plans to add Rey in an updated TFA Monopoly later this year.
And as an added bonus, JJAbrams also got pissed over Ray not being in Monopoly.
I never understood that either.
Also, after this wheresrey hoopla went all through hoops sjws were starting to notice that a Rey toy figure wasn't as readily available on the toy shelves, along with not even being included in some multi-character packs that pair off TFA's heroes and villains, with Finn being the rival to Kylo Ren so that the initial impression was Finn was the real main protagonist before the film came out.
Blah, blah, blah, more sjw tears about toy inequality, big eyes, big eyes
>Hasbro's distribution has always been shit.
Speaking of which
>Q: Dear Hasbro, why are there so many Constable Zuvio toys? I think we have enough.
>Hasbro: Can't get enough Constable Zuvio toys? Don't worry, we've got plenty more coming your way!
Unmasked Kylo is neat though
yeah well, getting banned has that effect. Igot banned a lot for calling Boyega a nigger, but now that he was actually pretty good as a character and an actor I guess I'll just ger banned for calling Rey a talentless worthless mary sue cunt.
It only triggers hackfrauds like Mark SJWaid (who hasn't written a good comic since Kingdom Come. Which isn't that good really) and other Sensitive Joss Whedon.
>he is LITERALLY the poor mans Embo
>in the movie for half a second
>literally nobody cares about him
>They're releasing more of him
I'm going to get that unmasked Kylo though, and set him up against Rey.
>Aaron Diaz flat out calling out everyone who uses the term "mary sue" as a misogynist
Man he turns the dial straight to 11 doesn't he? I guess I have a hatred of all women if I don't like how someone with a vagina was written in a fucking movie now.
The First Order pulled out of Jakku and let the world out in other systems to look out for the droid
It's not hard to see Resistance spies hearing about this and letting the higher ups know
Hell it could even have been Poe was picked up right when they were contacted by the droid in the cantina and they left straight from there to the fight
the first order are a bunch of fucking gaywads and TFA is complete fucking garbage. you're a shill for fucking liking it btw
goddamn fucking captcha telling me the thing I'm clicking on isn't the thing It's asking for when it fucking is, bunch of faggots.
I'm legitimately drunk on about halt a litre of whiskey
dont judge me
I tried to have a nightcap and well...here we are.
in the future i will stop at a glass but tonight i did not
I asked in a previous thread, but don't think I ever got a response. Would any of you recommend LEGO Star Wars III?
>encountering an Orgasm sheriff halfway through an orgy, rating our joy on a 1-10
Haha what the fuck. I do love Del Toro.
>he is LITERALLY the poor mans Embo
Isn't he's the same species?
Could always chalk it up to stylistic differences. I mean, Weequay and Klatoonians in TCW didn't exactly look perfectly like the ones in RotJ.
Also, maybe I'm slow, but I just realized today that Rey's goggles are fashioned using the lenses from a storm trooper helmet.
>Could always chalk it up to stylistic differences. I mean, Weequay and Klatoonians in TCW didn't exactly look perfectly like the ones in RotJ.
Yeah, but there's at least similarities. Zuvio and Embo look absolutely nothing alike (aside from the hat, of course). There's no common visual traits between them.
So glad I'm not the only one who got a pedo vibe off her. SMG really hams up the creep in that role.
>Oh, hey Finn, I like, totally left you for dead. I'm just gonna smile and pretend to be happy to see you, though, so you won't wise up and kill me for real!
Who is Max Landis and why should I care about his opinion?
It's going to be "muh SJW" if they ever make a Black Widow action figure, too. Even if we all know SJWs won't buy it and 90% of them will spend their existence covered in the spunk of adolescent and adult males.
Man I rewatched OT the other day and noticed how much one of my best friends looks fucking identical to Carrie Fisher as Leia. It's fucking uncanny. Now I can't unsee it.
>Who is Max Landis and why should I care about his opinion?
He's a whiny movie director who blames all his failures on the studios thinking he can do no wrong and that his movies are pure genius. He got a super forced 5 minutes of fame when fox paid RedLetterMedia an absurd amount to interview him and to let him be in a Best of the Worst episode. Sadly while there was some fantastic movies in that episode, Max almost ruined that episode by being really fuckin annoying through the whole thing.
She's a day or two younger than Ezra.
Here is a picture of Carrie Fisher at age 15
On a side note, Amazon's got the cover art for the Tales From A Galaxy Far, Far Away book up on their listing now and it has the subtitle "Aliens, Volume One". I'm kind of hoping for a whole series of short story collections similar to the old Tales books. It'd be neat to have Tales Of The Resistance and Tales Of The First Order too. I'd love some more info on the Knights of Ren and such especially.
Does it play similarly or better compared to the Complete Saga? Literally all I know about it is that it covers some episodes of TCW.
I love that this has caused a stealth movement in certain groups where they've identified the very term as the enemy and are trying to destroy the people who use it and the concept itself. It must have really hit a nerve.
If fan fic/film shit had internet focused tabloid sites on the scale of horrible games web-tabloids you'd be seeing a lot of 'Death of the Sue: Why a term that never made sense is finally gone' type articles.
I was gonna say write Pablo, but then I realized that the question wouldn't be Rebels related.
Maybe tweet him anyways, guy LOVES questions!
I guess they're just a diverse species, humans often look nothing like each other. Embo is a man(kyuzo?) of the galaxy, so his face is packed into a breathing mask for whatever reason.
Speaking of, do you know how how i can get hold of Pablo (besides twitter)? I'm writing an essay about whether or not maintaining a strict canon actually matters, and I want to ask him questions.
Funny, he must've been cut early or something, cause I've been reading the novelisation and Zuvio wasn't in the Jakku part at all.
Meanwhile Leia is getting a bunch more "screentime" in the novel.
Weird that hes not part of the novelization his scenes were shot already and from what i understand so was the leia scen you are talking about
They said they took the leia scen out becuase it would have interrupted the momentum of the other characters story and becuase it would undercut her kinda grand entrance
its mostly in movie Avengers related merch and not like the collector stuff
one big thig was a play set of a scene from Avengers 2 where she had a big action part and she was replaced in the toy with Steve
and other things where shes not like on shirts with group shots and stuff like that
>They said they took the leia scen out becuase it would have interrupted the momentum of the other characters story and becuase it would undercut her kinda grand entrance
I can see that, though it leaves a lot of people wondering what the exact relationship between the (new) Republic and the Resistance is.
Yeah, now that we know she was supposed to have a different introduction, it explains why her actual introduction on Takodana felt kind of understated. Within the context of the earlier cut, it really is just "here's Leia again."
How would dudes like Vader and Sideous fare in an older era where Sith where more commonplace than it was during their time? A lot of weird shit back then.
I'm not sure who said -- either Lucas or Disney -- but they mentioned that good ol Sheev was the most powerful Sith Lord to date (Vader was top-tier too, but not so much). But it's kind of hard to gauge their capabilities through the old trilogy alone, and this new canon isn't that far along to say either. A lot of the shit I see during the KOTOR era looked too sporadic and wild, a lot of power being brandished; dudes who eat planets, achieved immortality through the will/hatred alone.
>Mark SJWaid (who hasn't written a good comic since Kingdom Come. Which isn't that good really)
You shut your bitch mouth.
The Age of Ultron follow-up issue with Hank Pym.
I could go on.
Is it me or does that getup also remind anyone else of Mara's desert gear?
Thank you all for the bits of discussion and whatnot for the past little bit. It's helped me to stay awake and really draw for the first time since I moved to Alaska. I've been working on a sketch of Sidon Ithano tonight and got really into it, despite feeling exhausted right now. I'll post a scan (once we get the scanner set up and running) later, if anyone's interested.
His run on Green Hornet was great too.
I think that Vader and Sidious would fare pretty well against any Sith from that era. Thanks to the nature of the Rule of Two, it's a safe assumption that they had all the knowledge/power of those old Sith and more built up over time up to that point, making them individually extremely powerful, probably more so than many of those Sith put together.
Jesus, she's like Benjamin Button who boomerangs back to the old folks home after- oh wait, she's the one on the right. Huh.
At least here I keep seeing the opposite: people being immensely triggered by the claim that Rey isn't a Mary Sue or talks about her as having any competence or skills that make sense because of how she grew up on Jakku. They go full on
Basically it boils down to "Someone with the Force does some awesome stuff. News at 11"
Weird how people keep saying she looks too old therefore it sucks. The style is simplistic enough, it's always lacked details, however she hardly looks thirty. Even if she did look older than she should, frankly that would hardly be bad. In fact if Bail played his cards right he could use it to disguise how old Leia really is. That way he didn't just adopt a baby at the end of the Clone Wars that might be linked to his close and very pregnant friend Padme. If the Emperor or Vader ever sensed something strange it would help ease their suspicions.
UNRELATED CAUSE THERE'S NO FUCKING PIC :^)
So there was a lot of marketing about how TFA "used real props and practiucal effects"... I'm sorry but I have a few questions:
1. Did putting in "real" stuff really matter to movie's quality?
2. Aren't complaints about "too much CGI" nothing more than misguided nostalgia for practical effects anyway?
3. Isn't it likely that Disney is just going to phase the practical effects out as they go along anyway?
TFA was "we can do it oldschool with the best of them". The next movie (Rogue One) is literally "we can take this property in a direction you haven't seen it go before in cinema". Disney's making a few statements here.
It was mainly a marketing ploy to attract nostaglistic fans that hated the prequel films CGI. That's really about it. I havent seen TFA yet but I assume there is an equal balance of puppetry and CGI like the PT. It's made to look "realer".
Most likely yes. TFA was playing it safe it seems but they're probably going to phase it out more and more. Especially with the anthology films.
I may be remebering wrong, but wasn't it said that his clothes are from the kyuzo?
If so we might be looking at a second Jango, or JJ "Ithorian with a mouth" fucked with canon again
I think a lot of it was that Lucas was rather over-dependent on CGI in the prequels. To the point there were vast scenes where the actors were basically on green or blue soundstages with the backdrop being added in post-production.
Whereas in TFA CGI was used primarily where it was needed, not just because they could.
>There's currently a petition to make Lucas the director of episode 8
I know there are stupid petitions every day on the internet, but I can't believe that "fans" of the series could be this dumb.
Which one of you did this?
Part where he's chasing that fucking cat.
>1. Did putting in "real" stuff really matter to movie's quality?
>2. Aren't complaints about "too much CGI" nothing more than misguided nostalgia for practical effects anyway?
No if you cant do cgi well. Look at TFA compared with the PT or at TLOTR compared to The Hobbit trilogy. The formers were visually a lot better than the latters
I'm just fine with them adding Rey to monopoly. It's the fact that they're pissed about her action figures not coming out until now that bothers me. It's like they don't understand Disney didn't want to slap Rey with a lightsaber on the field until after the film was out for a bit.
They could have just not released her with a lightsaber, though? She's primarily associated with her staff in all the other marketing materials. They could have just given her that. Maybe release a 'Rey with Lightsaber' later on?
Seems more like it was less aimed at the Prequels, since they had to do a little blitz about how the Prequels used real sets, miniatures, matte paintings, etc, than a jab at the trend to go fully digital. Does anyone remember the bitching on /co/ about Superman's CGI cape?
The Prequels suffer from a misconception about how much computer generated assets they actually used, down to people still complaining that certain scenes looked like they were from video games...when they complaining about background paintings and model cities/alien planets. The primary flaw was that the technology to integrate the source footage of actors and models, etc, doesn't stand up to modern effects. For instance there seems to have been something of a quantum leap in post-production digital lighting to match background and actors so they appear to be in the same location.
>don't use a new medium and therefore improving it with greater understanding on how it can be applied and updated, ignore it until it magically improves randomly
You're insane, you realize that right?
How the fuck do you think cgi improved? People learn in its ins and outs, applying that information to updating its capabilities, etc
They have to use it to improve it you stupid fuck.
Hard truth, there are good reasons practical effects are largely considered obsolete, they eat up the budget and rarely allow for impressive shots.
>a sudden large change, development, or improvement
>the sudden downfall of Scott Bakula's career
More dynamic camera work may, MAY, have helped to disguise the technical limitations of that day, but I doubt it would be to the degree that people would stop complaining about how the effects haven't stood the test of time.
Yeah...look at some of the behind-the-scenes stuff of George sat on his ass directing people on green or blue soundstages. It feels like he used CGI as a crutch, instead of how earlier in his career it was a tool to tell the story.
>The Prequels suffer from a misconception about how much computer generated assets they actually used, down to people still complaining that certain scenes looked like they were from video games...when they complaining about background paintings and model cities/alien planets. The primary flaw was that the technology to integrate the source footage of actors and models, etc, doesn't stand up to modern effects. For instance there seems to have been something of a quantum leap in post-production digital lighting to match background and actors so they appear to be in the same location.
There are scenes in AOTC in particular where the actors are completely surrounded by greenscreen with no sets whatsoever, causing a lack of immersion.
Obi-Wan on Kamino walking through the halls, numerous shots within the Jedi temple, and Padme on the droid conveyor belt are particularly egregious.
>have helped to disguise the technical limitations of that day, but I doubt it would be to the degree that people would stop complaining about how the effects haven't stood the test of time.
Lucas should have used more physical sets.
If his scripts had been tighter, he could have reused and redressed locations to save money like every other films does.
Having read Lucas's first draft for The Star Wars, I can say the Prequels read about the same way, with lots of redundant scenes, too many location changes, too many character entering and exiting without established goals.
What you are talking about is exactly what the post you replied to was mentioning. Those large green screens were replaced with footage taken from physical models or in the case of that Jedi Temple hallway a matte painting.
Regardless of "lack of immersion" the Prequels were by no means the only film to have used massive green screens, not back then and certainly not now. With the advent of 3D films it is in some ways becoming worse. Ask Sir Ian McKellen.
No argument. Still you can pick your moment of movie magic, even relatively mundane scenes, and there is almost certainly a green screen behind it.
Lucas fully believed that the reason people went to Star Wars movies was because of the spectical and and special effects, so he made it a goal to have as much of it as he could.
That being said, something being a model and not CGI doesn't mean it's not a shitty special effect.
More like the technology they pioneered. If you follow how the effects of each Prequel movie was achieved you can track a good deal of the evolution of modern digital techniques. Even as critically panned as Jar Jar was at the time he was heralded as a major milestone in special effects, same as the droid army.
True. Sometimes the CGI over "practical" was just more practical. Same reason they did it for Maz in the new movie. Still not sure about Snoke, though, that seemed like it could have been achieved without CGI. But if you hire Andy Serkis I guess you feel you're wasting him. It would be like hiring Ray Park for Maul and not having him do any fancy flips or spinning.
>Did putting in "real" stuff really matter to movie's quality?
Yes. The practical effetcts made the movie feel more real and it really enhanced the setting. It looks and feels liek the OT and I love it.
>2. Aren't complaints about "too much CGI" nothing more than misguided nostalgia for practical effects anyway?
No, because CGI ages like milk, even "good CGI".
>Isn't it likely that Disney is just going to phase the practical effects out as they go along anyway?
Depends entirely on the director. Both Abrams and Johnson perfer practical effects, even though it's a lot easier to just use CGI wherever you can.
>True. Sometimes the CGI over "practical" was just more practical. Same reason they did it for Maz in the new movie.
The actual reason, revealed in the concept art book, is that her final design came too late in production to be designed as a puppet.
JJ wanted her to look like his old film mentor dressed as a fortune teller. They dropped the veil and sequins, but kept the old goggle-eyed lady.
god I hate Stevenson. and she was just awarded Comics Person of the Year or something, even though her writing isn't that great and she is kind of nasty to other people who see things differently.
also she went on this big rant a while back about why she hated Interstellar and how its not a good movie (because she says so?). shes not really in a position to lecture others on having a negative view of Rey.
That seems odd given how she was a major (relatively) character and they had plenty of time to create all kinds of minor, on-screen for a split second characters, both puppet and suit.
They just didn't have her design locked down.
Kylo Ren's helmet was also a late choice. Originally and for a long time he was a samurai Darth Vader impersonator.
The storm troopers were locked-in early.
>they said there won't be tits in Rebels
When the ship exploded Tua lost her memory and has been living on the streets as a hobo for the last few months.
This is why she's looking at Ezra like that, she almost remembers, but not quite.
As someone who reads a lot of sci-fi, I have to disagree. I found it boring, predictable and deriative to the extreme. Maybe it's different for people with less experience in the genre, but it's pretty standard shlock.
They had two wholly-CG motion capture characters in the movie, compared with the prequels where they never built a singe set of clonetrooper armour and every scene was composited against a green screen (though many of the backdrops were photographed from physical models).
I think the real tragedy is that we got Lupita Nyong'o to voice a shriveled old lady instead of casting her as General Hux and seeing her looking like pure sex in the First Order uniform.
that's not the point though. she made a big deal out of interstellar being a bad and poorly written movie, and for TFA, she lashes out against critics of Rey, despite them having a similar argument to hers.
she's just a very spiteful person, and acts like her word is law.
She was kinda a bitch to Han, Luke and Chewie on the Death Star, granted because they didn't actually have a plan. But she had just met them and they were trying to save her.
>A bald black woman in a Nazi outfit...
Mace Windu pulled it off.
We see that hat in the background when the Inquisitors are stealing babies too
I'd like to think it became a fashion trend and a sort of Imperial propaganda to honor Minister Tua and let the Rebels know they will not be intimidated
Obi-Wan on Kaminoan was almost entirely practical except for the scene where he and the Kaminoan are walking in the raised hallway with the fetus towers and clones
The Jedi Temple halls and rooms were mostly practical too. The halls had some small set sections where the actors were and the rest was filled in with CGI and digital mattes.
The Droid factory scene was added late in production when George re-arranged the end of the film a bit and cut out previously filmed scenes like where Jedi attack the droid control ships in space. The droid factory had to be mostly green/bluescreened because it was too late to build sets for it.
>except for the scene where he and the Kaminoan are walking in the raised hallway with the fetus towers and clones
Yeah, and that scene looked like shit. It's a long scene where Obi-Wan looks completely out of place.
>The halls had some small set sections where the actors were and the rest was filled in with CGI and digital mattes.
Yeah, and they look like shit. The actors appear to be in a void.
>The Droid factory scene was added late in production when George re-arranged the end of the film a bit and cut out previously filmed scenes like where Jedi attack the droid control ships in space. The droid factory had to be mostly green/bluescreened because it was too late to build sets for it.
Let's be real, Lucas would not have built a set to begin with.
>More guest appearances and OT fan-service, fanboys love those right?
>Lets bring Leia back as the unbearable caustic bitch she was in the first movie.
Fuck, at least Lando had charisma and charm, even if he starred in the worst episode of the season. Couldn't we just say she wasn't always that bad in her early years and was just under a lot of pressure or something for the first movie? It's not like the show has any shortage of unlikable characters.
It kind of makes sense for Leia to appear. She's a major rebel general and her father has already been on the show and is in charge of the Rebel Cell the show focuses on
>I didn't think either looked like shit.
It's bad. There's no sense of grandeur.
This is one of the worst effects shots in the saga.
Shit from the OT looks better.
I'm not a fan of this either, we have all these original characters in the story right now and instead of seeing their backgrounds and the stories they need to be told, like Zeb and Lasan, we're getting more shoehorned guest-appearances.
>Shit from the OT looks better.
I dunno, this one gives that a run for its money.
>She's a major rebel general
Later on in the movies, after her planet was destroyed.
And screw putting in OT/Prequel characters in the show when we need the other cast to get some growth, because let's be honest, it's lacking.
What OT characters HAVEN'T appeared in Rebels at this point?
To be fair, Ezras all "Hey where is the person in charge?"
Anyways, you think she's being snippy there? Wait until Ezra flirts with her as spectacularly as he flirts with Sabine. Meanwhile she might show a vague interest in roguish Kanan (she has a thing for the scruffy type afterall).
Really the only OT characters that would ever need to be in the show is Vader, since it's part of his goddamn job to kill Jedi and there's been confirmed reports of Jedi fucking shit up. There's no reason he shouldn't show up.
I see. So a shitty matte painting job gets a pass because "it was the 80s" while a digital effect in one of the first movies to be shot digitally doesn't get a pass.
Vader has already showed up in Rebels, to devastating effect. He was introduced at the end of Fire to the Galaxy and he played a major antagonist role in Siege of Lothal, where he kept the Ghost Crew on the run and severely damaged the fledging rebel alliance in that sector.
Are you two too dense to understand that Leia appearing will allow for her to develop more? Show where her leadership skills seen in ANH came from?
>Later on in the movies, after her planet was destroyed.
Well no shit Sherlock, that's for pointing that out. Wouldn't have guessed at all.
> And screw putting in OT/Prequel characters in the show when we need the other cast to get some growth, because let's be honest, it's lacking.
Maybe having them meet a few of these characters will allow for the to develop? Ever think of that?
>What OT characters HAVEN'T appeared in Rebels at this point?
Obi-Wan(the hologram was from RotS)
Sheev(only hear his voice and see an altered propaganda picture of him )
Most of the imperial commanders and leaders
Most other rebellion characters like Dodonna
Jabba the Hutt
Bossk or any other bounty hunters from ESB
>a digital effect in one of the first movies to be shot digitally doesn't get a pass.
Eh, not much of a resemblance.
a bad, decades established and refined, effect gets a free pass while an experimental new effect doesn't
lol, ok you win, this isn't worth arguing about
>a bad, decades established and refined, effect gets a free pass while an experimental new effect doesn't
Lucas should have made a better call.
>lol, ok you win, this isn't worth arguing about
I accept your defeat.
>Lucas should not have tried experimenting with digital effects and new filmmaking techniques allow movie-making to advance as a medium and develop new technologies
People like you do not deserve to watch films.
>Hosnian was an inside job.
Could literally be the case. These's no strategical reason for the First Order to incite the New Republic when they weren't even providing military support. They should've spent their time recruiting neutral systems, now they have to brace themselves for a Republic attack
Guess they're no Sheev
>Leia appearing will allow for her to develop more?
She's already been fucking developed in the OT movies she's been in and other media she's been featured!
What some of us are a bit pissed about is the fact we get cameos and one-shots of characters while leaving the original characters in the show out to fucking pasture and them getting, maybe, a minute or two of exposition at the middle of nowhere and is never touched up upon again(like Hera's short ass backstory in Wings of the Master). Rebels was a better story when we had a more original cast of characters that interacted with each other and not shoehorned OT characters in the show for nostalgia points.
Exactly man, Vader is the only one that makes sense to show up, especially with A Jedi and Padawan in the midst of the rebels.
>People like you do not deserve to watch films.
The David Caruso film Session 9 was made to test out a low-light digital camera.
Lucas absolutely should have prepared more for the prequels.
So I've been watching The Clone Wars and finished Season 5 and watched the first arc of Season 6 to the death of Fives.
Since I know that the series got cancelled halfway through would this be a pretty good place to stop watching? Ahsoka's story is done and basically the last of the iconic clones is dead. Also Fives death was pretty feels and I doubt the rest of S6 can top that.
>when they weren't even providing military support.
The Resistance was literally being funded by the Republic while the Republic denied all accusations. In addition, the majority of the Republic fleet goes with the floating court, so it was actually at Hosnian Prime when it was attacked.
the First Order, in one attack, killed nearly all of the Republics military force. The Resistance is now the major military force left to oppose what is left of the Galactic Empire and the First Order.
Actually, it's a win-win for the First Order. The New Republic is on shaky ground since many systems believe they were better off under the Empire rather than the ineffectual bureaucracy of the Republic and therefore either remain strictly neutral and independent or are already willing to give themselves to the First Order. In response, the New Republic gives financial support to the Resistance who subvert the First Order at every opportunity. Hosnian was the First Order giving the New Republic a choice. Respond to the attack and declare war, a war the greater galaxy doesn't want after having suffered the previous Civil War not too long after dealing with the Clone Wars. Or don't respond and continue funding the Resistance, which makes them appear weak in the face of a unified front dedicated to restoring the previous regime.
Obviously all the CG must look good for decades upon decades, while ignoring graphical capability upgrades!!
The OT looks "horrible" compared to the PT/ST because of the little progress towards it back in the 70s/80s. Then you also have the PT CG that ages badly in less time than the OT because of higher definition viewing ability, with the ability to cherry-pick paused scenes that look awful not in motion.
Considering that the First Order destroyed the entire New Republic legislative branch, a good portion of their military command, and more than likely a chunk of their government bureaucracy, they had incredibly good reasons to attack the New Republic, who are their political and ideological enemies. Assuming they're similar in setup to the Old Republic, the New Republic is a non-party parliamentary system with a weak executive and localized bureaucracy. After Hosnian system, the First Order has free reign to operate and the New Republic is looking at months, if not years, before it returns to a pre-Hosnian state. It's like if Pearl Harbor managed to destroy the entire Pacific fleet, kill the President, the cabinet, Congress, the Pentagon, and wipe Hawaii, Midway, and Guam off the map.
>If you think "Mary Sue" is a valid and meaningful criticism of a character, there's a very good chance you're a misogynist
>a term created by feminist fanfic writers
>to slow the flood of really shitty fanfics
Incorrect. The New Republic is on shaky ground because many systems are afraid that they'll turn into another Empire and the real underlying issues of the Separatist Movement are still in play, because the Empire just killed anyone who had a problem instead of addressing the issues.
>And what was up with Finn just magically being great at guns right away?
The soldier trained from birth?
She's been a scavenger for over a decade, can fight with a staff, can fly a fudgecicle, knows machine parts.
Also in VIII they're almost certainly going to reveal she's a survivor of Luke's Jedi academy.
Is Rey a bad shot?
She only manages to hit two Stormtroopers and misses every other shot
She was a bit hesitant taking the blaster and wasn't quite sure how to work it
She misses her first shot at the trooper and seems surprised when she hits him with the second (I guess this could have also been her reaction to killing someone but we've never seen anyone react to that after their first time killing a Stormtrooper before so why would we now?)
All her shots at Kylo were wild and all over the place but this might be chalked up to panic
>it just doesn't make the film fun.
People fucking love TFA.
If you're in the 6% of people who didn't like the movie you're in the margins.
so, basically, the first order retardedly launched an attack on the biggest fleet in the galaxy when they were getting simultaneously poked at by a private army. retarded strategizing IMO
Yeah its true, the film wasn't for people like me. Which is a shame because I love Star Wars.
Though I do think TFA is pretty unmemorable beyond its casting choices.
REGARDLESS, I'M SALTY. I'll stick to making my own stuff for entertainment.
We see multiple MonCal cruisers getting obliterated around Hosnian Prime when the planet explodes. We know that the Rebellion/NR fleet was cut down by 90% of what we saw in the OT plus what's been shown in the new canon past ROTJ. Hux even says they will be destroying the NR fleet with the weapon. Visual Dictionary basically confirms that the entire fleet was destroyed as well.
Her being a survivor of Luke's Jedi Academy is pretty heavily implied already.
I think the real issue is that the only setup for Rey fighting is when she rescues BB from the two scavengers. That's is a well-done fight. She struggles, there is effort. But it's not enough for what we see when she faces Kylo. They should have had him ragged, struggling from a gutshot and tired from his fight with Finn; that what was good enough for a brawl with some scavengers is only equal to a wounded, wornout fighter with years of training and experience on you. Either that, or changed the fight on Jakku to Rey mercilessly beating the shit out of those two guys. I'm talking baseball batting one of them in the face, nosebiting, shots to the nuts, stomping them when they're on the ground.
...jesus christ, how much more obvious than limping, bleeding all over the snow and uncoordinated swings do you need it to be? Do you need Kylo to literally crawl on all fours before it's "credible"?
Fucking hell, I swear, some people are so desperately in need of overacting one wonders if they have any experience with human interaction at all.
So will Rebels ever get as dark as Clone Wars got? How far do you think they'll go with content?
I miss Battlefront 2 and Empire at War.
I just want to see massed fleets again.
>the empire used a corpse of a known jedi master to draw in jedi to be killed
>Vader nearly kills Ezra with his own blade
>Vader orders a refugee camp or slum town burned
I think it's on its way.
>as Clone Wars got
No, probably not. Which I'm sort of glad for, the deaths in Clone Wars were good and all but the violence in that era is going to be different in this era. We are past the days of massive intergalactic warfare.
>We are past the days of massive intergalactic warfare.
That's actually a very good point. Even in the full on Rebellion it didn't seem like there was a ton of massive military engagements considering the size of the Rebel Fleet compared to the Imperial.
True, it felt like Sabotage Missions most of the time and the space battles we did see were against both Death Stars because they were such dangerous and massive targets that were too big for a single rebel cell to hit on their own.
That was a pretty random rant, but sure we know it. Did you know there is more than one fleet at most times in modern history?
For instance the attack on Pearl Harbor was meant to devastate the US Navy - in the Pacific. Even then and unfortunately for Japan the carriers weren't present at the time of the attack.
For an "ocean" the size of New Republic space it would seem odd that they'd pull all their military ships into one system, especially when there is an aggressive First Order attacking star systems and expanding their territory.
Filoni has already talked about, in a lamenting sort of way, that there is only so much violence they can show, or even hint about, on DisneyXD.
It's really a shame they don't let Filoni handle a darker animated Star Wars series on Netflix. They've already used that distribution platform for TCWs season 6.
I think Disney is taking it a bit slower with television properties on the Star Wars end because some much creative and financial bowls are being dumped into Marvel television right now. I think they have 3 or 4 shows in development for ABC now, along with all the Netflix productions on top of that.
We'll see more Star Wars on TV by 2018 I wager, specifically live action Star Wars being a very real possibility.
>especially when there is an aggressive First Order attacking star systems and expanding their territory.
You miss the point where the most current Chancellor of the New Republic completely thought that the First Order was no threat at all. I would assume as Chancellor, he would have the power to decide where the fleet goes ultimately. With thinking nothing of the First Order, he could have decided "let's put the fleet here at Hosnian Prime to defend it against actual threats, like pirates." or some shit.